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December 2019

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NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:40, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

NinjaRobotPirate Hi. I removed some sources because they are redundant, the things they mention are referenced multiple times in the article. --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 12:03, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

January 2020

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Stop it. Now. I'm warning you, as an administrator, to stop blanking citations. You seem to think they're duplicated; I say they're not. So stop it. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:44, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

NinjaRobotPirate Warning!? I literally explained to you why I removed them and you warn me? Why? --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 15:05, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

I apologize, actually I realized that I must have misread some citation. I'm really sorry for my misunderstanding. --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 15:07, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Please, if you think the citations are unnecessary or duplicated, explain why on the talk pages of the articles. The sources that you are removing are databases maintained by professional film scholars, and the information found in them is frequently not found anywhere else. For example, it's common for one aspect of film production to be mentioned in passing in a newspaper article, but the detailed information that Wikipedia reports in the infobox is only found only in these specialist sources. This sometimes includes detailed lists of production companies, distributors, etc. One or two of them might be mentioned elsewhere in non-specialist sources, but the complete list is unsourced outside of the specialist source. Some otherwise reliable sources are not also not considered reliable for technical details. As an example, The New York Times includes technical information on films in all of its reviews, but this is licensed content reprinted without editorial oversight from the IMDb, which is user-generated content. So, we can't use New York Times reviews for this information and instead cite it to the American Film Institute. This may look redundant, but there's a reason why we're doing this. I'm sorry for not explaining myself very well on this point. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:57, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

NinjaRobotPirate It's not your fault. I was sure they were unnecessary, but I was wrong, I must have misread, I'm really sorry about my attitude. --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 12:09, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Now I made some changes because they were in fact some redundant sources, but again I shouldn't have removed all of them in the first place, I apologize again. --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 12:15, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Oscar season

Only some short comments during the Oscars season. Could you let me know how you are counting the "most Oscar nominations for Scorsese" which seems to be comparing him to Billy Wilder here [1]? Regarding the top ten lists on The Irishman, this is getting on the long side and might look better as only covering #1 and maybe #2 on top ten lists, though not beyond that; its just very long and the main info is on the accolades page anyway. Let me know about the Billy Wilder question above. CodexJustin (talk) 17:55, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

@CodexJustin: Hi. Could you please link me the "diff"? I don't understand precisely what you are referring to. For the top ten lists I think that we are done, I don't think there will be many additions, but if you prefer to switch to only #1 and #2 for me is fine either way. --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 18:00, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

This is your diff from this morning editing that sentence: [2]. That sentence as it stands in the lede right now does not seem to agree with the hollywood reporter article I just linked above. Its fixed now as I have listed William Wyler as number one of most noms. CodexJustin (talk) 18:03, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

I only changed "Best Director Oscar nominations" to "Academy Award for Best Director nominations", I didn't write it in the first place. Anyway, Scorsese is the living director with most nominations for the Academy Award for Best Director with 9 nominations, and the second overall behind William Wyler. --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 18:12, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

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Sorry, moving this back to Draft:Killers of the Flower Moon (film). Principal photography has not begun, and thus this article's subject does not meet WP:NFF. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:31, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

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Lord of the Rings grosses

Hi Mazewaxiem, I have temporarily reverted the updated grosses at List of highest-grossing films. When BOM was revamped in the Fall some of the grosses were corrupted (see Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_films#Finding_Nemo_mistake?, Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film/Archive_74#Non-autoconfirmed_user_making_broad_changes_to_R-rated_gross and Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_films#Age_of_Ultron_gross. There is nothing wrong with your edit, but there may be something wrong with the source. If you could hold off from updating the grosses until we can substantiate why they have changed I would much appreciate it. They may turn out to be correct, but we need to make sure given the problems at BOM. Betty Logan (talk) 17:11, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

@Betty Logan: Hi. Don't worry, it's fine. Anyway, I'm aware of the situation related to BOM, but for The Lord of the Rings it looks like its different. I verified the international grosses of them and they actually add up to those new figures, so they aren't wrong. Also, for The Fellowship of the Ring, The Numbers reported a gross of $887 million for at least a year, so it seems that BOM just updated it with more data, and also did the same for its sequels, while The Numbers didn't. Let me know what you think, and check the figures yourself if you feel to. Anyway, I wish you a nice day. --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 17:15, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

OK thanks for letting me know. I will restore your revisions then. If we discover they are wrong down the line we can always fix them then. I should have asked you first really, but I have just become used to BOM being wrong lately! Best regards. Betty Logan (talk) 17:22, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Please rewording sentence in coronavirus outbreak

Please change words in 2019-20 coronavirus outbreak from:

• Numerous educational institutes have temporarily shut down, including dozens of kindergardens in Daegu and several elementary schools in Seoul. As of February 18, most universities in South Korea had announced plans to postpone the start of the spring semester. This included 155 universities planning to delay the semester start by 2 weeks to March 16, and 22 universities planning to delay the semester start by 1 week to March 9.

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• Numerous educational institutes have temporarily shut down, including dozens of kindergardens in Daegu and several elementary schools in Seoul. As of 18 February, most universities in South Korea had announced plans to postpone the start of the spring semester. This included 155 universities planning to delay the semester start by 2 weeks to 16 March, and 22 universities planning to delay the semester start by 1 week to 9 March. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.137.187.159 (talk) 09:46, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

About your request for protection

Hello, User:Mazewaxie. I wanted to explain why I declined your request for protection of The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King. There really hasn't been much vandalism recently, and the last time the article needed protection was ten years ago. But I wanted to say: I see that you have a repeated problem with people changing the British spelling "instalment" to the American spelling "installment". There is a "British English" tag on the article, but most Americans have never seen this alternate spelling, so they think it's a typo and are changing it in good faith. They are likely to keep doing this. What I suggest you do is put an invisible tag right next to the word, saying something like "instalment is the British spelling, do not change." Thank you for your devoted attention to this article! -- MelanieN (talk) 00:50, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Irishman GA

Hi. Hope you and your family are doing well during this time. Just notifying you that the GA review of The Irishman has begun. Please tend to anything you can: Talk:The Irishman/GA1. Thanks. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 15:31, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

@Vaselineeeeeeee: Hi. Thanks for your concern. Luckily my family and I are doing well in this difficult situation. Thanks for notifying me about the GA review. I wish you a nice day. --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 15:34, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Looks like it went through rather painlessly. Anyway, regarding your edit on The Godfather Part II which added that the initial title was The Death of Michael Corleone - I could not verify that by the source you added, and it seems strange that it would be the title for Part II since Part III had been titled the Death of Michael Corleone. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 17:21, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

@Vaselineeeeeeee: Here it's the source. Maybe they wanted to use that title for Part III again, I don't know.--Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 17:23, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Is it in one of those pictures? Which one? Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 17:26, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Oh I see the script. Image 18 "PUZO'S ORIGINAL DRAFT" Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 17:27, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

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Kind Strangerr

The fact that the 390 was not updated and doesn't justify the act of adding multiple Oricon sales to that same number, when those Oricon sales are already included in the circulation number. What I mean is, we can't add numbers that are already added in the previous one, even if we know it's not updated. And so, if the number is not updated, the latest one with reliable sources should prevail, instead of doing non-sensical math over numbers that shouldn't be added together. Those 5 million copies that Oricon states ONE PIECE has sold are already included and considered in circulation numbers. Circulation numbers are data that includes both copies sold and copies not sold, in bookstores. That means, every single copy sold will already be accounted in circulation numbers, and so there will be no logic in adding a certain amount to a number that already includes it. We can only state that ONE PIECE has a total of 390 million copies in Japan given that it's the latest number ever given by an official source, even if it's the direct same number that was peviously stated in an old update. Even if the number has grown, we can't do hypothetical maths about how many more copies does the series have in circulation, and even less when those numbers added are from sales, not printed copies themselves. Trying to figure out the amount of copies the series gets when new volume reprints are announced and adding those to the circulation numbers stated officially would make more sense, but as you can probably figure out, it's impossible to do.

As you can see in my latest undo, I included sources proving my points, so I hope we can leave it at that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KindStrangerr (talk • contribs) 17:34, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

@KindStrangerr: One Piece reached 390 million copies in circulation in December 2019 (see here and here), when volumes 95 and 96 weren't released yet. So how it's possible that their circulation numbers are included in that 390 million figure? Please explain. --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 17:38, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm not going to be able to explain why did they rounded a number or not with circulation copies, but those are the official numbers given. Since we don't know how many copies were rounded up/down (most likely down) when those numbers were given, we can't make conclusions such as adding copies sold when we don't know how many of those exact copies are included or not. Giving a fake, made-up number out of calculations with no logic behind them should have no justification. Leaving the number as it has been latest reported and waiting for a new one that updates it should be the most correct outcome in order to not misinform people with higher numbers than in reality.

Basically, as a rule of thumb, do not mix sources, adding Oricon sales numbers to Shueisha's circulation numbers is not something you can do. The latest known number for One Piece is 470million, which includes all volumes and yes, this includes volume 96, as I have already proven with the sources linked. KindStrangerr (talk) 18:05, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

RafGL12

@Mazewaxie: Could you seriously refrain from adding random, not official, not contrasted, and made up numbers in the circulation number of One Piece? Could you please stop spreading misinformation when actual official data is provided periodically by its own publisher? Circulation numbers and sales are not concepts that you can mix together in the same calculation when sales are already accounted for in circulation. Its own publisher is giving the exact numbers of the series, which are 390 million copies in Japan and 80 million copies worldwide, information that was covered in different and reliable media in Japan such as Natalie or Oricon. Even the own page already states that sources that provide the number of copies a series has in circulation/print, rather than actually sold are denoted by a "†", and One Piece has that same symbol. You're just doing calculations with 0 basis based on a hypothesis of the series not having that amount of copies in circulation, but instead of actually looking for numbers that could account for circulation copies, you're using sales, which is a totally unrelated metric. Please, either stop modifying the number stated in the page by official sources, which is 470 million or start adding sales numbers to every single number and change the whole purpose of the page itself, showing numbers that have no reliability or sense whatsoever.

Even going by your point of the number given by, I repeat, official sources themselves, the same publisher of the series, not being accurate or real, you can't still add sales to it. You'd need to look for every single reprint the series get, extract every single number of copies reprinted, and then add those to the actual number. And I can assure you that that's literally impossible. The math you're using is completely non-sensical and only generates misunderstandings, misinformation and confusion to people who is actually looking for reliable numbers. Please, stop.

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Michael Jordan weight

current is way out of line, and unsourced. 218?

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/02/15/michael-jordan-playing-weight-espn/1922419/

http://www.nba.com/historical/playerfile/index.html?player=michael_jordan JCJC777 (talk) 20:18, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

@JCJC777: It's not unsourced. Basketball-Reference.com lists Jordan at 6-6, 195lb. Also his weight wasn't always 195lb obviously, but that's the listed one. --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 10:32, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Box Office Mojo

Mazewaxie, please be aware that Box Office Mojo's current numbers are very screwed up right now. I reverted your edit on Fight Club. Compare this to this. Find a related discussion on WT:FILM#Serious problems with the reliability of Box Office Mojo. Thanks, Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 20:18, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Erik, you're absolutely right. I forgot about the Box Office Mojo situation. Thanks for the reminder! Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 11:20, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for the other edits, though! Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 12:58, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

One year!

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Cristiano Ronaldo

Hey, for next time please update only once the match is actually over. I know Ronaldo was subbed off, so the match was over for him. But it's always best to wait until the very end. You never know what could happen (the match gets annulled for some weird reason?) Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 20:26, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Ballon d'or dream team nominations

Hi there, I noticed that you have been adding nominations for the Ballon d'or dream team to player articles. Unless the player actually makes it into the team then unfortunately, it's not notable enough to make it into the article. I would advise keeping an eye on it, and when the actual dream team is announced then by all means add the information to the articles of the players who made it in. But adding the nominations does seem to be stretching it a little. Cheers! REDMAN 2019 (talk) 16:41, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

@REDMAN 2019: Hi. I appreciate your opinion, but honestly I disagree. Using that logic, we should also remove Ballon d'Or runner-ups and third places from every article. That doesn't make sense. Being nominated for a France Football all-time team it's still notable, since only 110 players in the history of the game were chosen, leaving out names like Dani Alves, Paul Scholes and Frank Lampard for example. It's like being nominated for an Academy Award in a sense. It's still notable in my opinion, but if other people disagree we should open a discussion about it. --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 16:46, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

I also understand and appreciate your opinion and respectfully disagree with it. I would agree to raising the matter at WT:FOOTY. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 16:50, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Ok, but could you please do it? I'm not an English native speaker, so I'm not comfortable in creating a similar thing. --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 16:51, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Of course. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 16:53, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Is it ok if I/you remove the nominations per the consensus at WT:FOOTY? REDMAN 2019 (talk) 18:47, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

@REDMAN 2019: Hi. I will remove the nominations, don't worry. --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 10:58, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 18:45, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you for good wishes! - Happy Wikipedia 20, - proud of a little bit on the Main page today, and 5 years ago, and 10 years ago, look: create a new style - revive - complete! I sang in the revival mentioned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:36, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

... and today Jerome Kohl, remembered in friendship --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:02, 28 January 2021 (UTC)