User talk:N-Devil

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June 2018

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Romowe Rikoito has been reverted.
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Gojira timeline

Hi N-Devil. Regarding the Timeline that you recently added to Gojira's article. Can you explain its purpose? In December, you had already added it, which was deleted soon after by a 9-year-old experienced user. I agree with the user's argument because the line-up has been the same for 24 years. It is indicated in a comprehensible way in the section "(1996−2002)" and the section "Members," and the article is heavy enough also to add repetitive stuff. A Timeline is particularly suitable when it's hard to understand, with constant changes of members such as The Rolling Stones or Korn. Moreover, the article reached good article status without the Timeline, which says it all. The Timeline will be deleted sooner or later, but thank you for your work. See U2, which is a featured article. --Oroborvs (talk) 15:25, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Oroborvs! Actually as I replied Timeline is always a greater way for usual users to see the lineup changes - and in the case of Gojira a name change too. Plus you can see on which release the exact members participated.

So I think that Timeline is unnecessary only in the cases when the band never changed any members or names - like, for example, Rammstein.

In other cases Timeline is really helpful because of its illustrative nature.

Thank you so much!

And really hope that the Timeline will stay on Gojira's page :) N-Devil (talk) 21:10, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi. The page reached GA status without the timeline + not enough change to justify a timeline + it clutters the page unnecessarily, which is already quite heavy. U2 had two former members and does not contain a timeline—and this one is a Featured Article, as I explained to you. A timeline is adequate on Meshuggah; Mårten Hagström did back vocals and bass as noted, and Fredrik Thordendal also held other positions. The timeline is also relevant on Joy Division. Gojira's timeline will be deleted; if you don't agree, you can contact an administrator or makes a third opinion request. Engaging in an edit war can lead to a user account being blocked. Thanks anyway. --Oroborvs (talk) 12:50, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

May 2022

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Metallica. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. 4TheWynne (talk • contribs) 12:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi 4TheWynne! Thanks for your message! Please can you describe why my edits are unconstructive and disruptive?

All of the info is 100% confirmed and all was made according to the guidelines

Thank you so much in advance!

Anton N-Devil (talk) 13:07, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Your addition of demos to Limp Bizkit discography

Hello. Regarding your contributions to Limp Bizkit discography, we should not use Discogs as a source on Wikipedia and we should not treat its content as all real. Much like Wikipedia itself, Discogs cannot be used as a source as it is user-generated with little oversight. Please see WP:USERG. I understand that Limp Bizkit probably did release a few demos before their first album—most bands do. I also understand that (you think) it's improbable some people concocted and printed up/faked some demos and therefore it's "probably real" so we should accept it for that reason (I know you haven't said this, but this is generally the first thing users who want to use Discogs as a source state). But Discogs accepts "unofficial" releases as part of their database—Brazilian pop music fans Photoshop together "promotional singles" of their favourite singers' album tracks and upload their printed creations to Discogs, so the website accepts nigh on anything. If Limp Bizkit's first few demos are really that noteworthy, a reliable website will have covered them. If not, perhaps consider they are not that noteworthy. Thanks. Ss112 20:08, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

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April 2023

Your edit to Ativin has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. —Alalch E. 17:07, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

It's great that you want to improve the Ativin article. Please ensure that your edits are conducive to it actually becoming a better article, not just an article with more usourced information and/or copyright violations. Sincerely—Alalch E. 17:15, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

@Alalch E.: Please can you help and answer how can I improve this article then - if the most of the info is taken directly from the band member and the band's FB page?

If the question is only about the bio, I can rewrite it in my own words.

Thank you so much in advance for your message! N-Devil (talk) 17:24, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi Alalch E.! Actually I didn't add any copyrighted material to the page - I took all the info from the official sources and from the direct conversation with Chris Carothers (Ativin founder) - and I'm usingg all of the info with his permission.

Maybe you mean that the copyrighted material is the bio in the article - but it was presented before my edits.

I want to provide all the correct info because there's a lack of information on Ativin - and I want to ggive the band a justice. N-Devil (talk) 17:19, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Let me take a better looks first, to see if the copyrighted material really was there before your edits. —Alalch E. 17:26, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

@Alalch E.: Thank you! But if you'll look at the Ativin page revision history, you'll see that I did my first edit there on April 3, 2023, adding Members section - and the bio, that seems is taken from AllMusic, existed much long before it.

Later I added just some specific info to the bio (mostly about the band's reunion) and created the timeline + corrected members info.

So it's really frustrating because spent a lot of time on gatheringg all the correct info and on adding it here (as I wrote, it's all correct and derived from the band) - so how can I restore all the info (Members, Timeline, Discography and infobox) at least? I can rewrite a bio in my own words too (though as I wrote it's not my fault) - but I really hope for your help - and your sugggestions on how I can do this in a better way. N-Devil (talk) 17:38, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Basically, I was very superficial and hadn't seen that the copyright issue goes all the way back, literally to the initial version of the article. This means that the article needs to be created from scratch. Writing the proper article now entails finding sources in magazines, on reputable websites, etc. and consolidating that information, while adding citations to every claim. If little can be found, it will be the case that little can legitimately be written, in a way that meets Wikipedia:Core content policies. This is fine, a short article can also be useful to our readers. My recommendation is that you save the content which you consider to be fine and worth including in the article to your computer, because the article's history will soon be revision-deleted (will not be accessible anymore). You can then readd it, but please try to make the information verifiable.—Alalch E. 17:41, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Got it, thank you so much for your reply, really apprecited!.. N-Devil (talk) 18:02, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

You're welcome! —Alalch E. 19:13, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Band timelines

I understand your edits in good faith but hear my point of view on this. Bands like the Creedence Clearwater Revival, Rammstein, Led Zeppelin and U2 don’t need timeline as the band kept its main members, the doors are one of those bands. I appreciate the other edits on the band member section, but the band doesn’t need one as it never mainly lost its core members and they weren’t replaced. Meep Meep 19:56, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for your message! I still believe that the timeline has its value for Wikipedia users and the band's listeners to show and reflect all the changes in the band's history - especially original bassist's appearance and years without Jim Morrison.

Thank you! N-Devil (talk) 20:22, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

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