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Discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Film#"Lists" vs. prose about lists You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Film#"Lists" vs. prose about lists. Pyxis Solitary (talk) 11:41, 15 January 2017 (UTC) (Notification per WP:CAN.) Books and Bytes - Issue 20 The Wikipedia Library Books & Bytes Issue 20, November-December 2016 by Nikkimaria (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), UY Scuti (talk · contribs), Samwalton9 (talk · contribs) Partner resource expansions New search tool for finding TWL resources #1lib1ref 2017 Wikidata Visiting Scholar Read the full newsletter MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:00, 18 January 2017 (UTC) when putting a new page that is a DAB please put a hatnote or a disam notice on the actual page Like on Robert Mackenzie (sound engineer) you forgot to put him on Robert Mackenzie (which I added), when you don't add it this makes it confusing for other people. Thanks. 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The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. KDS4444 (talk) 10:28, 10 April 2017 (UTC) Hum TV conflict of interest? Hi, Nauriya. I noticed that you posted in this SPI that "i have been associated with Hum TV and have gone to greater length in making good articles." I looked at your user page, but didn't see any mention of Hum TV. What is your connection with them? Please disclose any conflict of interest you may have. You may find the plain and simple conflict of interest guide helpful. Thanks. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 05:21, 10 April 2017 (UTC) @BlackcurrantTea: Thanks for pointing out, what I meant was that I ahve been updating Hum TV contents on Wikipedia Solely since 2013, not like "associated" with Hum Channel, sorry if word "associated" made you think that I am employee or something of them. 11:38, 10 April 2017 (UTC) Thanks for explaining. I've recently seen some editors who are sockpuppets and/or have a conflict of interest for Hum TV, so when I read that I decided to ask. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 06:59, 10 April 2017 (UTC) Kahane Cooperman? Hi, I noticed that you created the content of the current article on Kahane. Your phrasing there ("Her documentary Joe's Violin earned her critical acclaim including Academy Award for Best Documentary Short Subject at 89th Academy Awards") suggests that her film, Joe's Violin, has already won an Academy Award — as far as I know, the Academy Awards don't come out until tomorrow, and the film is as of right now is only a nominee. It may very well win the award, of course, but can I ask what your thought process was in stating (or suggesting with such certainty) that the film already has it? (Do you know some people in the film industry that maybe I do not?). Am curious. Please let me know. Thanks! KDS4444 (talk) 07:05, 25 February 2017 (UTC) ?? KDS4444 (talk) 12:49, 7 April 2017 (UTC) Looks like I can't get you to respond to my questions. Am baffled as to why. So be it. KDS4444 (talk) 10:03, 10 April 2017 (UTC) @KDS4444:, Sorry could't reply earlier. Its obvious it was a typo-mistake as I was making dozens of Wikipedia articles for 89th ceremony. Except Waterhousecoopers, no one know the results of categories. And I do not know any person from the Academy. I hope that answers your question and that doesn't make anything disappointing. Sorry again for not replying on time. 15:11, 10 April 2017 (UTC) Thank you— that was all I was looking for. KDS4444 (talk) 10:13, 10 April 2017 (UTC) Books and Bytes - Issue 22 The Wikipedia Library Books & Bytes Issue 22, April-May 2017 New and expanded research accounts Global branches update Spotlight: OCLC Partnership Bytes in brief Read the full newsletter Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:35, 20 June 2017 (UTC) Nomination of Kubra Khan for deletion A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Kubra Khan is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted. The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kubra Khan until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. DGG ( talk ) 14:24, 24 June 2017 (UTC) Template:Use dmy dates? Hi! You added this template while creating the page Coke Studio Pakistan (season 10), but you forgot about it here. It has been corrected now. Also 14 August 2017 is on Monday, other news outlets say that the show will begin in early-August. And you might know, it premiers on weekends, not Monday. Thanks! M. Billoo 10:27, 22 July 2017 (UTC) Category:Coke Studio Hi! 3 of your created categories have been tagged for speedy deletion; S9, S8 and S10 by Daylen These were mentioned by me on WP:Cfd. Please check, Thanks! M. Billoo 17:50, 22 July 2017 (UTC) Nomination of Imran Raza Kazmi for deletion A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Imran Raza Kazmi is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted. The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Imran Raza Kazmi until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Saqib (talk) 15:44, 23 July 2017 (UTC) CS10 Hi! I have been messaging you from past many days, but you did not respond. Recently you said, "do not remove the other content and please direct copy paste from the article is not a tone of Wikipedia, been editing so you are welcome to edit/remove the content but do not undo." There was not only one reason I undid. And what do you mean by "direct copy paste"? I did editing, not copied as it was on CS main page. And is it not a mirror to give same thing twice? So I removed it from main page to enter it here in CS10 page. Aamir Zaki; you mentioned him below heading 'debut' saying it as his final appearance, he made his CS debut in 2014. So you are wrong here. I mentioned him under 'music directors' because he is a musician. But you can see, after completing talk about directors, I wrote his name. Not only CS website is a ref, some refs you added are directly mirrors to one of The News report. And Dawn reported same under dawn.com (original) and images.dawn.com, which you mentioned both; a repetition. Again, you were wrong. You now only rmv CS web ref, but not these. But I had removed them. [1] and [2] don't seem to be reliable, they have some wrong infos. So I removed what you added. A ref, which you titled "Coke Studio reaches unique milestone with Season 100"? What's The International News? What's 100?? And other is actually The News International. My CE means that you did only copy-paste the quotes without correcting the heavy-coded symbols; “We --> "We. This is from Rizwan U. Khan's quote, which is better to give on CS main page. Summarizing many quotes is something too. Not every writer is a critic, mentioning writer's name is good too. Now, please don't say "why you undid without explanation". You have been messaged by me many times, Thanks! M. Billoo 13:46, 26 July 2017 (UTC) I am busy, apologies for that. couldn't reply earlier. And yes Amir Zaki didn't make his debut, but he made his final appearance, I appreciate your efforts. And thanks for the clarification. And The International News is a credible source, and 100 must have been a typo mistake. No Rizwan message was direct to season 10, we can use on the main page as well, but we need to incorporate that as well in series page. Also, please check the previous year's format, it doesn't necessarily have to be same but should be similar. Thank you for doing, and correcting the things needed to be done. Looking forward to collaborating on this. Nauriya 18:56, 26 July 2017 (UTC) You're welcome, and thanks for the reply. Use 'Template:Reply to' to notify a user, as I wasn't notified of your message. I know The News International is of course reliable (but might not for too long due to some cases against Geo TV team), and that's why I was saying too that some sources (that you added) are totally copying The News without crediting. Use only original ref, not duplicates or mirrors; but like I also added a ref of 'IBTimes India', because the author there merged the news with crediting original ones. If you want to add Rizwan U Khan's quote, then please don't add under 'Debut'. 'Artist debuts' is nothing; either we should only say Debutants or Debut artists (because I was wrong too; but it can now be corrected). But one more thing that I am doing is artist --> artiste, because artiste is an artist who entertains, especially as a singer or dancer. It's not bad to add artist; but artist has vast meanings. Thanks! M. Billoo 14:39, 26 July 2017 (UTC) Category:YNH Films has been nominated for discussion Category:YNH Films, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. 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