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Anna Holmlund in 2015 at the FIS Ski Cross World Cup 2015 Finals
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The Panama Canal is an example of a ship canal.
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Happy First Edit Day!

Happy First Edit Day, Northamerica1000, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 11:37, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
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Delsort

Thanks - I'll try to bear that in mind. Twinkle encourages you to select deletion sorting categories when nominating - I've never actually looked at the page, or seen that notice. Perhaps we ought to ask for a similar notice to be added if you select certain categories like that in Twinkle? GirthSummit (blether) 15:03, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@Girth Summit: People have been catching on since I've been patrolling the page a bit here and there. The People delsort page is essentially for misc. biographical entries that don't fit into other biographical delsort categories. It's been that way for years. People have been adding to the list without knowing the actual criteria because.... well, you'd have to ask them. Cheers, North America1000 15:06, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
@Girth Summit: Forgot to mention, my time on wiki can be limited at times, so I may not become involved in requesting modifications to Twinkle. North America1000 15:11, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

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Deletion sorting

I just clicked the dropdown in Twinkle when I filed the AfD. I didn't edit that page directly, nor did I read it. The people who care about this sort of thing should feel free to categorize it further without feeling the need to offer a lecture. – bradv🍁 23:23, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Bradv: The edit summary I left is just a standard c/p that I use when removing unnecessary entries from the People delsort page. Wasn't meant to come across as any sort of lecture. It seems best to explain why the reversion was performed, rather than simply reverting with no edit summary. Regarding Twinkle, there is a discussion occurring regarding this matter at Wikipedia talk:Twinkle § Deletion sorting notice, which will hopefully lead to the People delsort page becoming more organized and used for what it is actually intended to be used for. Sorry if you felt inconvenienced or offended; not the intention. North America1000 23:28, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Very well, I will express myself there. – bradv🍁 23:29, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Delsort

Hi. Thanks for pointing out not to use the People delsort. Additionally, per advice on the page you linked in your edit summary, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/People, which says "Actors and filmmakers (generally excluding adult film performers)", I also removed the actors delsort and added the pornography one instead. You restored the actors delsort here. Since the two individuals I started an AfD on have no actor contributions outside of pornography, I presume they're not exempt from the 'generally' not to add to actors. Am I mistaken here? ProcrasinatingReader (talk) 00:26, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi @ProcrasinatingReader: Per the article (here), the subject has also performed in "standard" films, such as Fast Sofa, which is not a porno film. North America1000 00:44, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
@Northamerica1000: Aha, good catch. I saw "simulated sex" and an AVN source so I presumed porno. You have a closer eye than me ;p ProcrasinatingReader (talk) 00:47, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

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William Mariner was an Englishman who lived in Tonga from 29 November 1806 to (probably) 8 November 1810. He later published Tonga Islands, an account of his experiences that is now one of the major sources of information on Tonga before it was significantly influenced by European culture and Christianity. Pictured is Mariner in Tongan attire.
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Declined deletion of Draft/Spider roll

I nominated Draft/Spider roll for {{db-a10}} deletion because it was a clear attempt by Cookieminicatt to recreate the edits that have been reverted at Spider roll. Perhaps a better would be to move it to Draft:Spider roll, but that draft already exists. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:01, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

@WikiDan61: Thanks for the notification. Not sure I really want to become involved in any of this at this point, and instead may simply continue to improve the main Spider roll article. North America1000 12:33, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
Understood. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:40, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Take a look

Hello please take a look here here, article recreated without any improvements after CSD and being rejected at Afc. Already deletedMegan Barris (Lets talk📧) 09:54, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 27, 2020)

Apelles painting Campaspe, an artwork by Willem van Haecht, circa 1630, depicting people surrounded by fine art
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Cmt about sorting

With respect to this edit summary: people who (like me) use Twinkle to put articles into deletion categories never see the deletion sorting pages, so never have the opportunity to read any instructions there. Anyhow, the rationale you described is sensible, and I will endeavor not to sort people as people if I've sorted them as some particular kind of people in the future. --JBL (talk) 18:11, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Joel B. Lewis: Actions are underway to get a tooltip in place in Twinkle for the People delsort category, as well as for the U.S. delsort page. Check out the discussion occurring at Wikipedia talk:Twinkle § Deletion sorting notice. North America1000 00:09, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

European Union Delsort

I saw European Movement in Finland in AfD and wondered if a delsort for the European Union may be worthwhile at this point? The EU is a large, and quickly expanding, project. In the same way that the United States of America has its own delsort, as does each state. It could contain articles relevant to anything on an EU-wide level (which is a lot of Europe these days), organisations, politics/politicians, laws, etc. ProcrasinatingReader (talk) 18:22, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi @ProcrasinatingReader: Well, a delsort for all of Europe is already in place at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Europe. It may be unnecessary for a EU one, in my opinion, because the main Europe delsort page already covers all of Europe. North America1000 00:12, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Why relist this? There's 3 keeps, and evidence that they meet GNG, including a 2-page in-depth features in the largest paper in the country. And a solitary delete from User:BeamAlexander25 that falsely claims they don't meet GNG. Not sure how there is not consensus here. Nfitz (talk) 08:52, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Hi @Nfitz: At the time of relisting, the discussion was already leaning toward a keep result, but I felt that more input would be optimal for a true consensus to be formed. Note that AfD discussions are not closed based upon a vote count, and that the nomination for deletion is also considered as a delete !vote in and of itself. You state here that there was a solitary delete !vote, but this is actually not the case. Regardless, I have since closed the discussion with a keep result, in part per additional input the discussion received from another user after the relisting. North America1000 11:26, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 28, 2020)

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Nomination of List of buffet restaurants for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of buffet restaurants is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of buffet restaurants until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 17:36, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

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A user listed for deletion 3 arenas under construction, he did not even bother to check the offered links that included photos/videos.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sala_Polivalent%C4%83_(Oradea) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sala_Polivalent%C4%83_(Bistri%C8%9Ba) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sala_Polivalent%C4%83_(Blaj)

This is wrong:

If they are from Romania they are not equal to any nation, including the United States?

Rostadia2012 (talk) 13:30, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Hi Rostadia2012: What is needed to demonstrate notability per Wikipedia's notability standards is to provide coverage in reliable news sources, books, research papers, etc. that are independent of the subject and also provide significant coverage. If such sources are available, you can provide them in the deletion discussions and also add them to the articles if you'd like. At a minimum, if said sources exist, it is advisable to provide them at the deletion discussions, so other users can consider them. Hope this helps out. North America1000 19:07, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Speedy renom

Hi, You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dajjal: The Slayer and His Followers stating non-consensus and speedy re-nomination. What is speedy renomination exactly and how do I go about it? Also, I'd like to note that only persons commenting on the AfD were a new accounts created exactly for opposing it (though didn't vote weirdly enough) and most likely belonging to the same sock farm that created other, now deleted, similar hoax articles.

You also cited a Rotten Tomatoes page as being a claim to the film's existence, that isn't true, companies can list their films on Rotten Tomatoes regardless of release. Which is exactly what this sock farm and company has done they create "trailers" and movie listing on film databases/trackers to generate media buzz for their company and its owner which is picked up by news websites/blogs (as is the case with the Medium blog cited in your closure). Complete films are never released/exist and none of the hoax films including this one have reviews anywhere let one on WP:RS sources or even local newspapers.

If you can re-evaluate your close that would be great, multiple users have already gone through the hassle of nominating these hoax and promotional articles by the sock farm for deletion again and again. Gotitbro (talk) 14:52, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

  • @Gotitbro: The no prejudice against speedy renomination is just a simple addition stating that the closer of the discussion is okay with the article being immediately renominated for deletion, if desired. At times, Wikipedians consider it disruptive for an article to be renominated for deletion right after a deletion discussion is closed. The WP:NPASR addendum simply serves to enable the speedy renomination of the article with no prejudice from the closer for doing so. Regarding the rest of your message above, I took a cursory look at the Rotten Tomatoes site and wasn't aware that just anyone could upload anything there, but I'm a novice to the site. You seem to know a lot more about it than I do. If you suspect socking from any users that have edited the article, you should read and follow the instructions at WP:SPI to request an investigation. The user that created the article was already blocked indefinitely, and the master socking account behind the blocked user account was blocked for a week back in June 2018 for doing so (link). North America1000 19:45, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Johannes Korndörfer

I am unhappy about the deletion, and close of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johannes Korndörfer. Between nomination and deletion, sources were added to the article. I didn't know about "soft deletion" small print, never looked there. The person is mentioned in articles. Why shouldn't we have a little article about him, rather than sending readers to the German Wikipedia, Johannes Korndörfer? His efforts to teach youngsters composition are laudable. Can you perhaps unceremoniously come to a better close? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:07, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Hi @Gerda Arendt: Since I closed the discussion as soft delete, the article can be restored upon your request. It sounds like you would like for it to simply be restored. So, just let me know if you'd like the article restored, and I will do so, per WP:SOFTDELETE. Since you mentioned here the notion of coming to a "better close", another option is for me to restore the article and then re-open the deletion dicussion, where you can provide your input. This isn't necessary, though, because the discussion has already been closed, but if you would prefer this, it can be accommodated as well.
Regarding the discussion closure itself, there was nothing erroneous about it. Relative to the deletion process, the article fully qualified for soft deletion, essentially existing in the state of an expired prod. Nobody other than the nominator commented at the Afd discussion, and in the future you should consider contributing to the AfD discussion if you feel that the article should be retained, and explain why. North America1000 09:49, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, - never even heard of soft delete, touching Prod and AfD only rarely, and never as a nominator. Simply restore would be to my liking. I was very busy the last weeks, birthday and death of a friend, - sorry that I didn't read it all. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:06, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt:  Done. Johannes Korndörfer has been restored. North America1000 10:13, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:18, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Northamerica1000 the AfD nominator has withdrawn from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Millennium Park (Kolkata). Than you ~ Amkgp 💬 17:19, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

WP:cleanup project maintenance

Hey northamerica1000, a couple of things:

  • I've gone through the member list (we now have more inactive members than active ones :()
  • Do you think WP:cleanup/Archives is ready to be transcluded onto the main page?

Kind regards from PJvanMill (talk) 22:12, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

@PJvanMill: Thanks for your great work in helping to maintain the project. I have moved inactive users to the Inactive section in the past, so I know that this takes up some time. Much appreciated. Regarding transcluding the new Archive index page, personally, I would just leave the Archive section on the main project page as-is, with the two sentences that are there linking to the most current archive and the basic overview regarding archiving entries over one year old. The main project page is already plenty long, and since the tab at Wikipedia:Cleanup/Tabbed header now links to the new Archive page you created at Wikipedia:Cleanup/Archives, people can find it pretty easily. That's just me, though. I feel that when project pages get to be too long, people may skim over the content without reading it: tldr. However, others may very well think differently about transclusing the archive index. North America1000 01:25, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Okay, that's also fine with me. It's just that you put some things in noinclude tags, so I thought you were preparing to transclude. I agree the main page is already long enough. Kind regards from PJvanMill (talk) 11:39, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
@PJvanMill: The noinclude markup does the opposite, preventing transclusion. I placed the tabbed header within the noinclude markup, so it would not repeat itself downward on the page, which was occurring when I initially added it atop the new Archive index page. Cheers, North America1000 12:23, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Ah, I see - I know what noinclude does, but I hadn't realised that sort of behaviour was occuring with the tabbed header. Kind regards from PJvanMill (talk) 12:33, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Northamerica1000, hope that you will be fine. A template you created Template:Digital clock and date has a problem that it doesn't work for any other UTC. It has only USA time. I also want to use this template but the problem is that I can't select my time zone. Can you add a parameter of time zone or UTC in it? So, that it can be used by all users. Thank you. Empire AS Talk! 05:51, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

  • Hi Empire AS. Give me a little time to look into this. I'll ping you again after I check into this. North America1000 06:38, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
A stalker writes: you could do something like {{Digital clock and date/sandbox}} to accept a timezone argument. Certes (talk) 21:34, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

It still doesn't work. @Northamerica1000, you should add a time zone parameter in it. Thank you. Empire AS Talk! 04:10, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Empire AS and Certes: I believe I have solved the matter. I have updated the page to include information about how to set the clock. This information is located at the "Usage" section of the Template:Digital clock and date page. Upon testing it out a bit, it appears to be working correctly. Please check it out, and let me know if it works for you, or if there are any other issues. North America1000 05:39, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000, It has no parameter of offset or UTC and its default time is USA. It still doesn't work. You can check it here on my UBXs here. There, the third clock is working alright but first and second aren't. I think if you would add UTC parameter then it will work. Thank you. Empire AS Talk! 05:56, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

  • @Empire AS: Did you substitute the template first, according to the new instructions? To set the clock, you first have to paste {{subst:Template:Digital clock and date}}, and then edit the page according to the updated instructions Here. The "offset=" parameter will be present after you substitute the template. It's working fine for me. North America1000 06:16, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000, yes, I've tried the both. In second clock, I've copied and pasted the same text and added offset, but not working. Can you edit them here. Thank you. Empire AS Talk! 06:21, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

In the first instance on your page, the wiki markup you added, "{{Digital clock and date|offset=+5}}" will not work. Again, you need to please follow the updated instructions and substitute the template first. Notice how on the second template on your page where I added "offset=+5" to the template AFTER it was substituted (See this diff), it is matching the clock that you have below it. North America1000 06:26, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. Empire AS Talk! 06:52, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 29, 2020)

The phrase "omakase" is most commonly used when dining at Japanese restaurants where the customer leaves it up to the chef to select and serve seasonal specialties. Pictured is omakase at a restaurant.
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This week's article for improvement (week 30, 2020)

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This week's article for improvement (week 31, 2020)

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Habibur Rahman Misbah

I am added Authentic source for the article. Here Owais Bin Elias (talk) 10:34, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

  • @Owais Bin Elias: My sole involvement thus far has been to restore the Articles for deletion (AfD) template to the article after it was inappropriately removed (diff). Once an article is being discussed at AfD, the template should not be removed until the dicussion is closed. I may not become further involved in matters regarding the article or at its deletion discussion. North America1000 17:09, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for fixing my mistake with WP:Articles for deletion/Joseph Merhi. I realised I should have added it to the "People" list within minutes of adding it, but I wasn't sure if it was okay to remove it. YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 19:03, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

  • @YorkshireLad: It's all good, and thanks for the note. The goal is to prevent the People delsort page from becoming diluted as a general "any bio" delsort page, because that's not its purpose. North America1000 02:52, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

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