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Radiocarbon dating

The citation needed will never be rightfully authenticated in the article. That is the why I placed the real reason for radiocarbon dating just after such need. Your response thusfar is that such illucidation of facts is not helpful. This error of judgment, viz., radiocarbon dating, is a further ploy of modernism to establish a new order of things, ultimately disorder, with the usual seemingly supported notion that the error will pass as sound reasoning. Modernism has its basis in pride, not science.

Look for a moment at what is required to pass off this error to thinking man. The citation needed is for that part of radiocarbon dating which the editors already admit to showing some flaw, viz., an adjustment in the laboratory. Right, an adjustment like attempting to create 'Frankenstein'. The fact is, if you find 'x' amount of C14, nothing more can be determined but that one has found an 'x' amount of C14. In terms of plain view and the Moon, there even exists the possibility of C14 being planted there after any such hypothesized estimate of dating. Then there is the actual presence of the initial amount which is, supposedly, not necessary to be known because the tests for the isotope are made at different intervals. In other words, if I find a pound of C14 and measure its potency, then leave it sit for a year, and measure it again, I will find a difference in potency which I can then figure retroactively to determine how long the C14 has been around. This retroactive computation is based upon the concept of chemical half-life or decay. The flaw in using this computation method is that there is always going to be some trace element remaining, regardless of whether the instruments used in measuring the trace amounts are capable of 'seeing' that. This means that it is impossible to ascertain a date to the origin of the C14, as the actual initial amount may have been far greater, as well, and the potency itself could have been greater. The infinity factor at both ends of the time spectrum, viz., an infinite beginning and an infinite end, is supplanted purely by a man made machine which can only produce certain results due to its calibration and weakness of construction. It is not even an estimate, it is pure sham. Some thinking men rejoice in such a machine overlooking its limitations. When this form of rejoicing becomes a self-serving obsession, accurate scientific data has been supplanted with pride, and the good use of machinery is not fostered, but, likewise, is supplanted with abuse.

The efforts of modernism is to have all of these ill-workings of pride fit into a nice, neat, little package. Then we can all go around fucking each other in the mouth and pretend that we are in Heaven. This is what you propose in your editing of Radiocarbon dating. The greatest difficulty for the modernist is to present the order of things as they actually are, as the modernist has his/her own agenda in pride. In the fullness of logic and reason, the amount of any and/or all C14 which man can find may only be as little as 7,000 years young/old. It is mere conjecture and/or opinion to conclude otherwise, not chemical science.

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Syrian Air Flight 501

Hello Patar, I saw you deleted the article Syrian Air Flight 501 because it was created by an SP of a banned user. I understand that, but would you be prejudiced against creating it again? I do think, sockpuppetry notwithstanding, that the accident is notable in his own right. It's the first civil air accident since the beginning of the uprising, and perhaps in Syrian Air's history. Thanks again. Yazan (talk) 04:43, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

If it can be verified as being notable, feel free to recreate it. --Patar knight - chat/contributions 15:21, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

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Ahmed Matar

Hi. I was about to delete the dab page Ahmed Matar as the footballer had been deleted per WP:PROD. Then I noticed that the footballer had already passed an Afd at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ahmed Matar. I restored the page, hope that's OK. Thanks. Tassedethe (talk) 23:04, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

That's fine. I didn't catch the AfD. --Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:11, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

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Ramped Cargo Lighter

Dear Patar knight, I hope you can help me please. I have created the wikipage for the Ramped Cargo Lighter, a Canadian manufactured landing craft of WW2. I have managed to find an illustration of the RCL, but unfortunately, I fear it will not pass wikimuster as far as copyright. Can you offer me any advice in this regard? I suspect the illustration might be admissible, but I am not citing it correctly (perhaps). Many thanks for any help. Best regards, AmesJussellR (talk) 07:30, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Love the article. According to Wikipedia's guidelines on public domain:
"In Canada, any photograph created (not published!) before January 1, 1949 and not covered by Crown copyright is in the public domain. This is a consequence of the Canadian Bill C-11: An Act to Amend the Copyright Act, which replaced the old rule for photographs ("copyright expires 50 years after creation of the work") by 50 years p.m.a., but not retroactively applying the new rule to works that were already in the public domain by the effective date of the bill, January 1, 1999 (see [3] at the bottom). Wikipedia has the template {{PD-Canada}} for tagging such images."
So if that's the case for this WWII vessel, everything might check out. I'm not a copyright expert though, so you might want to check with someone else. --Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:21, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Dear Patar knight, Many thanks. I hope this pans out. Regards, AmesJussellR (talk) 22:16, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

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autoconfirmed user

Hi,I would like to be an autoconfirmed user,to save the books made with wikibooks. How can I do? Many Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chitammuo (talk • contribs) 16:56, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

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The notoriuos wiki troll ( Iaaasi) returned

Hello!

The well known chauvinist romanian wiki-troll User:Iaaasi returned (with a new croatian fake identity) He is now active alias user: Irji2012 He is often active in Hungarian-related aricles, he enjoy edit-warring deleting good sources and sentences from important articles, and he like to break the rules of wiki even 3 revert rule. Can you arrange about this notorious wiki-troll? Thank you! Peter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.0.49.97 (talk) 11:08, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Proper change of username

Thanks for your note, but I couldn't see how I could do that.

I had lost my password, but at the time I was going to edit, I didn't intend editing much, so didn't add my email address and therefore couldn't recover my password. I have since changed machines, and in restoring passwords did not include Wikipedia because its not something I do all that often. I didn't realise Wikpedia only remembers my password for 180 days. Consequently I can't change my user name properly as you suggested, unless I misunderstood something Crock81 (talk) 04:03, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

If you read the page I linked you to, you would see that you can absorb inactive accounts using WP:USURP, which might apply in this case given the circumstances (I'm no expert). It's not a big deal however. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

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Hand-coding

Hey all :).

I'm dropping you a note because you've been involved in dealing with feedback from the Article Feedback Tool. To get a better handle on the overall quality of comments now that the tool has become a more established part of the reader experience, we're undertaking a round of hand coding - basically, taking a sample of feedback and marking each piece as inappropriate, helpful, so on - and would like anyone interested in improving the tool to participate :).

You can code as many or as few pieces of feedback as you want: this page should explain how to use the system, and there is a demo here. Once you're comfortable with the task, just drop me an email at okeyes@wikimedia.org and I'll set you up with an account :).

If you'd like to chat with us about the research, or want live tutoring on the software, there will be an office hours session on Monday 17 December at 23:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office connect. Hope to see some of you there! Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:36, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

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Deletion of contenet

I have alredy advised you that I have written both texts wiki and memmorial trust website and so i ma dissappointed at your removal action. Regrettably I cannot make any sense of the complex content of the copyright donation pages etc so appear unable to move forward. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.155.46.71 (talk) 18:10, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

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Stefan Fischer

Hi, You just deleted my article on Stefan Fischer because it was "blatant advertising." I have to disagree. It was an article about one of the most pre-eminent martial artists in Australia! As I had said in my Speedy Deletion rebuttal, he is, while not on the same level as Keith Kernspecht and Leung Ting, certainly the leading Wing Tsun proponent in that country. The initial protest was *not* that he did not have notability - which he does - but that the article was written like a promotion. I don't understand that, I included only the facts. However, if I cut it down to the bare bones that is what Kernspecht and Ting have, would that be acceptable?

Thanks for your response. The Librarian at Terminus (talk) 01:06, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Due to this protest, I've restored it, wikified it a bit, and nominated it for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stefan Fischer. From my point of view, all it did was talk about a martial artist, whose notability was not established by reliable sources, with links to that martial artist's organization's webpage, which seemed like advertising. However, since this is apparently controversial, I've restored it and left it to the Wikipedia community to judge. Thanks, -- -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:40, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Patar. I appreciate you restoring the page for further discussion. I know Fischer is notable, I will scour the web for more extensive sources rather than just his website to support my contention. As I said in my protest, there are so many citations out there on him due to his stature as a martial artist, except none of them are on line! The Librarian at Terminus (talk) 19:08, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

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