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Mistake

Hi Patar knight, hope you're well. Recently, you closed the discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Galle Gladiators in 2020 and deleted the page List of Lanka Premier League captains with that. However, that list article had an individual AfD page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Lanka Premier League captains where the discussion was closed with result of no consensus. So, this may be a mistake that closing discussion with no consensus and then deleting the page. Therefore, I'd request you to restore that article. Thank you. Empire AS Talk! 06:41, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, since I closed the captains list page as no-consensus, I obviously didn't want to just summarily delete it. The bungled AFD bundling apparently really messed up the XFDCloser script. Thanks for catching this!---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 13:59, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Yeah there was a huge mistake in the AfD pages. First of all, the nominator made baseless nomination. Not even a single issue in the article. Second, the nominator bundled the AfDs in a wrong way. Instead of bundling all articles on a single page he/she created 7 different pages for all 7 articles + added all the 7 articles on all 7 pages one by one. As a result the XfD closer script got confused! Thank you very much. Empire AS Talk! 16:07, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maurice D. Jester

I noticed you closed this one. Please don't hurry on the other ship-named soldier/airman articles. I am working on getting the sources into them, which may change the outcome. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:30, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

I'll hold off on closing any further. I already closed a bunch before you posted this. I think the one I've closed between you posting this and my reading it was Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John C. England, which was distinguishable from the others on the facts and on the improvements made. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:38, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

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Page move denial?

Before I do any formal RM could you better explain the denial of moving 2021 Canadian Open (tennis) BACK to it's original place of 2020 Canadian Open (tennis). It was moved without any discussion. The fact that Canada numbers their events has no bearing because all tournaments do the same yet we have 2020 Wimbledon Championships and 2020 BNP Paribas Open which were canceled. What seems to be controversial is that an editor moved the article in the first place with no discussion, taking all the 2020 edits with it. Had he simply turned 2020 into a redirect and created 2021, that could be easily fixed and discussed. Now editors will simply remove the redirect and create a new 2020 article with all the old 2020 stuff attached to 2021. It seems kind of strange. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:18, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

WP:G6, which you requested is only for uncontroversial deletions. ViperSnake151 clearly disagrees with the 2020 title, making it controversial. Looking at the basis of the dispute, it's not a completely unreasonable disagreement. The Tennis Canada statement referenced in the article [1] frames the year-long delay as a postponement rather than a cancellation. The numbering is sort of relevant, because there can't be two seperate 140th editions of a tournament and it shows tennis valuing the ordinality of an event in addition to the date. By contrast, say 2020–21_Grand_Prix_of_Figure_Skating_Final is purely distinguished by the date. In any case, the 2020 Wimbledon Championships and 2020 BNP Paribas Open articles both describe the events as cancelled, not postponed, so they can be distinguished. According to WP:RM, the proper procedure to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial page movies that non-admins can't reverse is a WP:RM#TRtechnical request. However, anyone can contest technical moves and I presume ViperSnake151 would, in which case an RM would be required anyway. Given everything above and because the page ha been stable at the new title for a month, I didn't feel it qualified as an uncontroversial technical move request, so I didn't act on that basis. I don't see your hypothetical panning out, since there's unlikely to be new information to add about the original 2020 plans. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:26, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Fair enough. However there is enough info to make the 2020 article. In fact in 2020 is was sponsored by Rogers and in 2021 that changed. I was going to add some stuff yesterday and noticed that someone moved it with no discussion. Also multiple sources also say Canada canceled it, not postponed. If it was truly postponed then there would be two events this year or else 2021 would now need to be postponed till 2022, and on and on. It's simply semantics in how someone wants to designate 2020. What I really disagree with is "stable for a month." That does not seem stable in my book, we just didn't notice the move. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:41, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Local sources, and the official organizing committee, say postponed. There's also the fact that the venues always alternate for the men's and women's tournaments. If the 2020 tournament had been cancelled, the men's event would be held in Montreal and women's in Toronto. But this was a de jure postponement. ViperSnake151  Talk  21:24, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Officially, it's postponed [2], and that's what the Canadian Press is reporting it as [3]. In any case, there's no pressing issue such as BLP violations, protracted edit warring, or subject-matter urgency (the event is in August). At worst it's at an "incorrect" title for a week or two max while the RM is resolved. Presumably ViperSnake would have started an RM if I had decided to revert, and both of you would have written arguments justifying your positions, so the only thing affected is timing some and minor clerical work. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:20, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

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LoL

Hi there, Patar. Thanks so much for your improvements to LoL! I've noticed that you added three references to Dot Esports, which was deemed to not be a high quality reliable source at FAC. I did fight for it, which you can see here, but was ultimately defeated. So although you did update information (like the number of teams), the information was reverted back to slightly outdated because of FAC not deeming the source reliable. Unless we can find some other source, I'm going to have to remove the Dot Esports stuff in a few days. Just thought I'd give you a heads up and explanation! — ImaginesTigers (talk) 14:11, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

That unfortunate, since it's on WP:VG/RS, which is normally stricter than what typically passes for a reliable source on Wikipedia. I'll see if I can find better sources in the next day or two. Thanks for the heads up and the work you've put into the article. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 21:47, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Marleau record

Well, if you insist on breaking the rule why don't you update all of the active players' stats daily on the List of NHL players with 1,000 games played page. Then good luck in seeing it revert back to what it was at the end of last season. Ralphierce (talk) 04:59, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Is there some documentation of how this rule came to be? I can see a justification for not updating every single player on the list until season-end, but in the case of Marleau, it's literally breaking the all-time record. Maybe a compromise would just be to update the 1500+ games section as of the day the record was broken if consistency is a big issue. Not sure what you mean by the last sentence, but I hope that's not a threat. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 05:05, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
I've added a note in the list key that changes in the all-time record can happen mid-season. [4]. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 05:14, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

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Restore Sham Kaushal page

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Sham Kaushal was deleted in 2017 as a WP:BLPPROD, which only applies when there are no reliable sources in the article. Do you have a reliable source discussing Kaushal? If so, I would be happy to restore. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:40, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

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delete page: Leonard Steinberg, Compass

Good afternoon,

This page was deleted and I do not understand. This is a person page who is my business partner and recognized in the world of Real Estate in NY. No advertising was done. Only quoting articles where he was quoted. I see other real Estate people who are in Wikipedia. Leonard was No one agent team in the USA a few years back as quoted by the wall Street Journal Real trends.

If there is something specific you want me to remove I will do so.

Please advise.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hsenequier (talk • contribs) 18:52, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

It was deleted under WP:G11, because of its overly promotional tone, which would have to be fundamentally re-written to be encyclopedic. Also, if Steinberg is your business partner, then you have a conflict of interest and should not be directly editing any articles related to him. If you want to add an article for Steinberg, you should use the articles for creation process. If you want a copy of the deleted article for this purpose, let me know.
Being recognized in an industry isn't enough for inclusion on Wikipedia. Biographical articles on Wikipedia have to meet the notability guideline for people, which requires independent, in-depth coverage by reliable sources. For example, if the Wall Street Journal recognized him as the #1American realtor in an article, that article could be used to help establish Steinberg's notability for inclusion on Wikipedia. Some of the articles in the deleted version seem at first glance to be possibly usable as the basis for a neutrally-written encyclopedia article. [5][6][7][8]
As for specific things to remove, the article really needs to be rewritten from scratch. Besides obviously encyclopedic elements like a list of articles they are quoted in, there are also multiple sentences, many unreferenced, which are focused entirely on COMPASS and not Steinberg. Phrases such as "#1 producing team", "infused with technology", "some of the world's leading talent ", "leading real estate technology company" "empowers its residential real estate agents to deliver exceptional service", "" Compass agents utilize the platform to grow their business, save time and manage their business more effectively" , "some of the most iconic residential buildings", "some of the world's greatest architects" are obviously promotional in tone, and not encyclopedic. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:29, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

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