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July 2012[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Urn (band) has been reverted.
Your edit here to Urn (band) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline. The external link(s) you added or changed (http://www.facebook.com/urncentral) is/are on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia.
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Unfortunately, your references are not independent verifiable sources. The are either associated with the band, sales sites, or otherwise of dubious validity. The text is also promotional in tone, with unattributed claims of success, and fails to show that it meets the notability guidelines. I think this is the fifth time an article about this band has been deleted. If you can find genuinely prestigious and independent support for why they are notable, and tone down the text, then there may be a viable article, but it's some way off yet. Let me know if you need more clarification of the problems Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:15, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've put the text here. For technical reasons, I've removed the categories. The links above will help you identify appropriate sources, basically you are looking at things that can't be self-edited by the group and are independent, like a national newspaper, music mag or TV channel. The other link tells you what the criteria for notability in music are. If you say the band got good reviews, you need an in-line link to the reliable source that gave the review, otherwise it's promotional. If you format the refs like you have the External links (which should follow the refs anyway), they will be more readable '''[url description]''' Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:46, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bands they have played with is OK, but note that there is no reflected notability. The fact they have played with notable bands doesn't in itself make the group notable. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:48, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Facebook etc are OK as ELs, waste of time as refs. Sales sites like Amazon should not appear anywhere, just spamlinks really Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:51, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]