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CfD closure

You closed this CfD with "The result of the discussion was: rename" only. I strongly object to this. First of course, you did not summarise the discussion nor clarify how you ended up in this conclusion. Second, I (being the main contributor & creator to these categories), have made strong and repeated arguments that the proposed new names do not reflect the content full stop. IOW: they are incorrect. I also proposed a practical route to end up with correct new category names. None of this is visible in your closure. In short: the closure does not follow from the discussion, and results in incorrect names. I propose you reconsider (into closing as: no consensus), and halt the change. DePiep (talk) 20:40, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

@DePiep, you disagreed in the discussion, and consensus was against you, whilst you did not give a clear policy-based reason to object. You are welcome to open another CfD with your preferred names. I don't feel it is necessary to summarise the discussion, and the result was clear enough that it didn't need explaining. Please don't assume ownership of the categories. If you really believe my closure was incorrect, you can object at WP:DRV. ― Qwerfjkltalk 20:48, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
The argument is: the proposed names do not reflect the content. Nothing to introduce "ownership" pointing, I only mentioned my involvement to support that argument: I know what they are about. The other contributors have not acknowledged or researched that. To me it is illogic that !votes against such factualities can stand, let alone be named 'consensus'. -DePiep (talk) 20:57, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
By the way, I think its WP:MRV. -DePiep (talk) 21:12, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
@DePiep, you're correct, it's MRV (and no, I'm not going to revert the close). ― Qwerfjkltalk 21:20, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Move review for Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 June 28

An editor has asked for a Move review of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 June 28. Because you closed the move discussion for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review. (Actual request is at Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2022 August). DePiep (talk) 21:55, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Category:Patrol vessels of the Royal Antigua and Barbuda Defence Force

Hello, Qwerfjkl,

Did you mean to tag this category for deletion? You closed the CFD discussion but there's been no action yet on the category under question. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:36, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liz, I've been listing closures at WT:CFDW, so they may take a while to be processed. It looks like the category has now been deleted. Happy editing! ― Qwerfjkltalk 06:25, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2022).

Administrator changes

readded Valereee
removed Anthony Appleyard (deceased) • Capitalistroadster • Samsara

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC has been closed with consensus to add javascript that will show edit notices for editors editing via a mobile device. This only works for users using a mobile browser, so iOS app editors will still not be able to see edit notices.
  • An RfC has been closed with the consensus that train stations are not inherently notable.

Technical news

  • The Wikimania 2022 Hackathon will take place virtually from 11 August to 14 August.
  • Administrators will now see links on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. (T308570)

Arbitration

  • The arbitration case request Geschichte has been automatically closed after a 3 month suspension of the case.

Miscellaneous

  • You can vote for candidates in the 2022 Board of Trustees elections from 16 August to 30 August. Two community elected seats are up for election.
  • Wikimania 2022 is taking place virtually from 11 August to 14 August. The schedule for wikimania is listed here. There are also a number of in-person events associated with Wikimania around the world.
  • Tech tip: When revision-deleting on desktop, hold ⇧ Shift between clicking two checkboxes to select every box in that range.
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Question from Giles Hill on Draft:Barnaby Stewart Hugh Blacker (20:58, 4 August 2022)

What could I change to make it look more professional --Giles Hill (talk) 20:59, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

@Giles Hill, Welcome! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing six million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Specifically, the draft does not follow WP:EL, or WP:NPOV. You should also read Help:Referencing for beginners. Happy editing!  ― Qwerfjkltalk 13:07, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022

New Page Review queue August 2022

Hello Qwerfjkl,

Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.

Coordination
MB and Novem Linguae have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out. MPGuy2824 will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.
Open letter to the WMF
The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.
TIP - Reviewing by subject
Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.
New reviewers
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Question from Jigzyboy (22:08, 7 August 2022)

Hello, Please how can I upload my biography here? --Jigzyboy (talk) 22:08, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank You

Thank you for accepting my redirect requests! Best regards, 173.20.216.139 (talk) 23:04, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

173.20.216.139, no problem. ― Qwerfjkltalk 06:11, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #532

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Events
    • Upcoming
      • Wikimania 2022, August 11 to 14, online event. The Hackathon will take place August 12-14. On this page you can find a summary of sessions and community gatherings related to Wikidata and Wikibase.
      • Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call August 9, 2022: Pieter Vander Vennet on MapComplete, a thematic OpenStreetMap viewer and editor which uses species, language, and image data from Wikidata. Agenda.
      • The Wikimania Hackathon starts next Friday, August 16-22! There are still lots of spots in the schedule to add your Wikidata related sessions or project ideas (anyone can present a session)
    • Ongoing
      • Wikimedia Indonesia's Wikidata edit-a-thon (datathon) for the 77th anniversary of the Indnesian Independence Day started on 5th August and will be held until 12th August. Participants are instructed to edit items containing the statement country of origin (P495): Indonesia (Q252).
      • Toolhub is a catalog of 1500+ tools used every day in a wide variety of workflows across many Wiki projects. We are currently improving the search functionality and need your input – whether you are already familiar with Toolhub or not. Please take 5-10 minutes to leave feedback.
    • Ongoing
      • Weekly Lexemes Challenge #53, Sheep
    • Past
      • First online meet-up fully organized by volunteers of the Indonesian Wikidata Community has been held on 30th July where we edited items on Indonesian ethnic groups.
  • Tool of the week
    • Wiki tools - adds dozens of Wikipedia and Wikidata functions to your Google sheets.
  • Development
    • Lexicographical data:
      • Continuing to address feedback from the testing (e.g. phab:T312292, phab:T313113, phab:T313466)
      • We have pushed back replacing Special:NewLexeme with the new Special:NewLexemeAlpha a bit to address more of the testing feedback.
    • Continuing to tackle allowing sitelinks to redirects under some circumstances (phab:T278962)
    • REST API:
      • Finishing up the endpoints for removing and replacing statements and adding authentication and authorization to them
      • Looking into feedback from first testing

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help out, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Tech News: 2022-32

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
  • Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 9 August at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on 11 August at 7:00 UTC (targeted wikis).

Future meetings

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19:48, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Dumb question

So I know you probably have a good reason, which is why I'm asking, but why did you put every single character in your code at this BOTREQ inside of <nowiki>...</nowiki> tags? It seems like it would be easier to just wrap the entire {{#if:{{str find|{{{website}}}|{{((}}url}}|{{{website}}}|{{url|{{{website}}}}}}} in a single pair as I have done here (plus it's a hell of a lot shorter). (please ping on reply) Primefac (talk) 08:18, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

@Primefac, see WT:BAWL#Issue. ― Qwerfjkltalk 09:07, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
Ah, it's a feature of a tool, not a personal choice. Weird, but now I know! Primefac (talk) 09:55, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Category:Military in fiction

Hello, Qwerfjkl,

You closed the CFD discussion on this category, did you mean to tag it for deletion? Liz Read! Talk! 02:09, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

@Liz, I've now redirected the category. The discussion regarding the category is at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 July 7#Category:Military in fiction WT:CFDW. ― Qwerfjkltalk 06:21, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Closure of categories as delete.

You recently closed Category:Songs about beauty and Category:Songs about disc jockeys, but to complete the process aren't you supposed to notify a bot or something? Thanks for your help, no need to respond. Richhoncho (talk) 15:59, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

@Richhoncho, see #Category:Patrol vessels of the Royal Antigua and Barbuda Defence Force; I've listed them at WT:CFDW. ― Qwerfjkltalk 16:34, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, I learnt something today, now put WT:CFDW on my watchlist if needed. Normally these things happen quicker, so I assumed, wrongly... --Richhoncho (talk) 16:48, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Small comment

I am perfectly happy with this outcome but you should be aware that someone else might take this to WP:DRV saying this was a WP:SUPERVOTE. Rather than closing a discussion to an option that has not explicitly been discussed, it is safer to join the discussion as a participant and put the alternative option on the table in that position. Apart from that, thank you very much for tidying up WP:CFD! Marcocapelle (talk) 05:50, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Question from GlobalHustlaz (02:25, 14 August 2022)

Can you tell me when will my page go live Thank you --GlobalHustlaz (talk) 02:25, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

@GlobalHustlaz, I've moved the page to User:GlobalHustlaz/sandbox and submitted it as a draft. ― Qwerfjkltalk 06:04, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #533

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Discussions
    • Open request for adminship:
      • Estopedist1 (RfP scheduled to end after 21 August 2022 12:36 UTC)
  • Events
    • Upcoming:
      • Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group Wikidata Working Hour August 15, 2022: Fourth session of our summer/fall project working with diverse children's book metadata. We'll be covering manually creating publisher items: showing how to create items, add statements to items, add references, and use gadgets. You are, as always, welcome to bring your own data to work on. All sessions in our project series will be recorded for those who cannot attend. Links will be added to the event page when available. Event page
    • Ongoing:
  • Tool of the week
    • KnolCase is a case-based knowledge management tool for gathering information about subjects of interest and organizing these into case files.
  • Development
    • Took part in Wikimania and the Wikimania hackathon
    • Continuing work on making it possible to add sitelinks to redirects under some special conditions (phab:T278962)
    • Lexicographical data: continuing to address the feedback from testing
    • REST API:

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Tech News: 2022-33

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The Persian (Farsi) Wikipedia community decided to block IP editing from October 2021 to April 2022. The Wikimedia Foundation's Product Analytics team tracked the impact of this change. An impact report is now available.

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 August. It will be on all wikis from 18 August (calendar).
  • Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 16 August at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on 18 August at 7:00 UTC (targeted wikis).
  • The Realtime Preview will be available as a Beta Feature on wikis in Group 1. This feature was built in order to fulfill one of the Community Wishlist Survey proposals.

Future changes

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21:07, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

CfD indentation module

Is the UNREPLY module in User:Qwerfjkl/common.js for CfD? Because I don't think it would work? It's not restricted to CfD in any way and just removes a leading colon or asterisk from the wikitext. There typically isn't any, unless you append a comment using a BCL I suppose, and in that case you wouldn't want to mess with it. I've written a more specific module for this: User:Alexis Jazz/Bawl/Modules#Unfuck CfD indentation. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 10:22, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz, I just wrote it as an unindent module, because I find it helpful in other places. ― Qwerfjkltalk 13:14, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Okay. I just don't see how you could enable/disable it, or how it would typically work at all - Bawl.postCommentParams.text typically contains the text of the whole section, starting with a header, not a colon or asterisk. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 16:42, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz, given it's unlikely 'UNREPLY' appears elsewhere in the text, if I start a reply with UNREPLY, it will strip that and the preceding colon/asterisk. ― Qwerfjkltalk 17:50, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
You may want to read the source again, that only applies to the second (summary) line. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:11, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

NPP message

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Test

test ― Qwerfjkltalk 15:39, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

test ― Qwerfjkltalk 15:46, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
test ― Qwerfjkltalk 15:50, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
Hey, sorry to bother you, but I think your edit here didn't come out the way you'd meant it to and it's now somewhat unclear what you're trying to say. Could you have a look? Best, --Andreas JN466 16:37, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
@Jayen466,  Fixed. I was trying to fix a WP:BAWL module, and temporarily broke it. ― Qwerfjkltalk 16:56, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
Testingwrappingbytypingareallylongsentancewithnospacestoseeifanonbreakingdpaceisneeded — Qwerfjkltalk 09:18, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Testingwrappingbytypingareallylongsentancewithnospacestoseeifanonbreakingdpaceisneedednumber2totestupdatedbawl. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:18, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of 1637 talk: The Transylvanian Decision

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1637 talk: The Transylvanian Decision

Hello, Qwerfjkl. Did you mean to create 1637 talk: The Transylvanian Decision in the article name space like this? I am trying to get back into new page patrol and other admin duties that I have not been involved with in some time. I did not want to mess anything up. I am not trying to "mess" with you, or rub your nose into a mistake. If you do not reply on my talk page, I will likely forget about this. I do not really need a reply, though. I like the quote on your user page. I have something similar. Thanks, Kjkolb (talk) 09:51, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

@Kjkolb, no worries. It's an error with the AFCRC helper script; the page should have been at Talk:1637: The Transylvanian Decision. — Qwerfjkltalk 12:00, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #534

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Tool of the week
    • List of created Wikidata items - a tool which combines Xtools pages created API with Wikidata API to get the list of items created by a user with their label.
  • Development
    • Lexicographical data: continuing to address feedback from testing. We are almost done now.
    • REST API: continued investigating the use of PATCH and JSON Patch and worked on a proof-of-concept
    • Birthday planning and prepping is in full swing

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

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