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Proposed deletion of Billy Aaron Brown

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A touch over eager given it was only just created and I was pasting in sources when your message appeared.RafikiSykes (talk) 08:03, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

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Bearsden

Hi. I see that you've added some editing tags to the Bearsden article, which is rated as Start Class. Can I ask that you remove your tags from the article in general and re-apply them to the sections that require work? Use the { {cite} } tag where you can. I don't agree that all your tags apply to all of the article. There are many contributors to the page; they should be able to remove tags as work is done. It would also be helpful to explain your reason for adding the tags to the article at the appropriate talk page. If you want to get the article up to GA Class (I don't that would be difficult), then make that clear. Wikiwayman (talk) 10:42, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I have marked more specific points on the page and I will post on the talk page later.RafikiSykes (talk) 07:06, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Wikiproject Scotland

I think you might be interested in joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Scotland, given your list of contributions. Wikiwayman (talk) 11:10, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I think I shall. :) RafikiSykes (talk) 07:07, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Vlad the Impaler

I've noticed that you tagged two dead links on this wiki page. They are not dead links, the pages are simply unavable because they have been placed in an incorrect format that the server cant handle. http://www.exploringromania.com/vlad-tepes-dracula.html I have done my best to fix these links and correct this error. 68.10.188.179 (talk) 06:02, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Cool glad it was an easy thing to fix.RafikiSykes (talk) 07:04, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

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Magic tools

Rafiki can you run your tools on Livestock? Some bare URLs and a concern expressed about linkrot, I haven't the time to clean this up. Montanabw(talk) 19:00, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Ran them on it. The refs are a bit more uniform now and the dead link has a webarchive link.RafikiSykes (talk) 05:44, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, it was a help, much appreciated! Montanabw(talk) 17:47, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

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fixed those and one other. RafikiSykes (talk) 13:15, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Dungavel

It woud help were you to discuss or simply give a reason for the POV tag on the talkpage, as the the tag template suggests one should do. What's the POV? Brendandh (talk) 01:04, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

It seemed rather obvious but i have replied on the talk page.RafikiSykes (talk) 01:13, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

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Pointless

Why add pointless tags to ok articles? They add nothing of value but up your edit count, consider which is more important.86.179.136.229 (talk) 09:32, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

RafikiSykes, most of the tags you've added recently have been inappropriate. Sections are not needed for stub-length articles. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:00, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
And often having a single source for a short article is not an issue. I can't help noticing that many of the articles inappropriately tagged were started by Malleus Fatuorum (talk · contribs). Is there a particular line of reasoning behind this? Nev1 (talk) 15:11, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
My question is not rhetorical, I really do want to know why. Nev1 (talk) 20:27, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

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Your reversion of my edits on the Calton Hill page

I completely disagree with your off-hand reversion without discussion of my attempt to restore the proper name of this Edinburgh location to its Wikipedia page. To quote sources as you and another user have done which themselves perpetuate a common error shows a gullibility regarding their supposed reliability. Just because a term gains ground through ignorance (or through computers requiring the article to be dropped in order to alphabetise entries) does not mean it should eclipse the true form. Usage: "What's that over there?" Reply: "That's the Calton Hill." You can climb Blackford Hill or Corstorphine Hill, but you climb the Calton Hill. See the Calton Hill Discussion page for more.

Took to talk page and resolved by consensus.RafikiSykes (talk) 19:43, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

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FixedRafikiSykes (talk) 19:42, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Wolfowitz

Why is this guy vandalising against multiple consensus for retention of cited and relevant info? Looks like he's been here a while, so what's the story? Odd one. --82.41.22.244 (talk) 01:51, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

BLP sometimes seems to becoming a handy weapon for those wanting material relating to a particular subject removed from pages. I've noticed it from a few different users now but the related subject seems quite constant.RafikiSykes (talk) 02:22, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
In this case, it seems policy is being deliberately flouted in favour of personal preference - and against a growing consensus. Can't be allowed. --82.41.22.244 (talk) 11:08, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
I quite agree and I will have the 4 pages in question on my watchlist from now on.RafikiSykes (talk) 19:44, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

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Done RafikiSykes (talk) 11:16, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

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Translation request

Hi, Rafiki. Good find on the birthdate at Leslie Carter. One request: Per WP:NOTENGLISH, could you insert the pertinent German sentence from the source and its English translation in the footnote? Also a translation of the article title? Thanks! With regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 14:23, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi I have popped in translations and quotes. If they need to be formatted in any particular way let me know and I will fix them. RafikiSykes (talk) 14:52, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

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editing help

Dear rafiki Sykes. I am new here and do not intend to be a regular editor. I edited the wiki page on Alex Eadie (MP). I edited out that he was teetotal and anti smoking campaigner. Alex is my recently deceased grandfather and this info has been misreported in the first newspaper obituary. This is wrong info and was upsetting me that the wiki page was wrong. Alex Eadie smoked a pipe (you will find pictures on the web) since his 20's. Alex did not drink in his earlier life but for as long as I can remember enjoyed a glass of Aussie red with his evening meal. Please can you edit the article back again as the PA report had it wrong and now many of the other papers now have it wrong too (JemE1983 (talk)) —Preceding undated comment added 00:50, 5 February 2012 (UTC).

It isn't imperitive to the wiki page so I shall remove it. All info that is inluded has to be published in reliable sources like books newspapers etc but we don't have to include everything they publish or mention. If there are any obituraties that are accurate and should be linked to please let me know. Likewise with any info that should be included just point out a source that has that info and the info could get added to the article.RafikiSykes (talk) 01:09, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

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Sorry

Hi Rafi, I'm so sorry if I made a bit of a mess of your ref links. I was just in the process of restoring them but got called away. Apologies. MassassiUK 20:34, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Its fine I'm just checking they have access dates and fixing a couple of bits.RafikiSykes (talk) 20:38, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Category:Fictional bisexuals

Hello, RafikiSykes. Could you be more careful not to place characters in the bisexual category unless, as the category says, they are explicitly defined as bisexual? Just because a character has been with both men and women romantically/sexually, it doesn't necessarily mean that character is bisexual. For example, many fans believe that Marissa Cooper was just "sexually experimenting." Her sexual orientation is heavily debated by fans and was also outside questioned by outside observers, as shown in the section about it in the article. The External links section even has a note about not placing her in the bisexual category. This is why I reverted your edit that added her to that category. If a character is in Category:Fictional LGBT characters instead of a gay, lesbian or bisexual category, then it's likely for good reason. Xena and Gabrielle are good examples of that. 107.20.16.111 (talk) 18:50, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Notes there wouldn't show up for anyone using hotcat or similar. Though looking at the category heading should marissa gabrielle or xena even be in the lgbt cat as it at its heading says lgbt identified characters. So inclusions should only be if the characters actually identify as such surely?RafikiSykes (talk) 19:05, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
Xena is a LGBT-identified character. Many fans see her as lesbian or bisexual, and the actress thinks that the character is bisexual, as the article states. She is additionally a gay icon, meaning that she is embraced by many within lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) communities. Therefore, having her in the LGBT-identified category makes sense. It is also a compromise for those wanting to put her in the bisexual category. The only reason she shouldn't be placed in the bisexual category is because neither the show nor the creators identified her as bisexual, not clearly anyway; the creators decided to leave her relationship with Gabrielle ambiguous as to whether it's romantic/sexual or not. That's why Xena and Gabrielle belong in the LGBT category, in my opinion. They already have the LGBT tag on their talk pages for these reasons; they are within the scope of the Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies. Marissa is also within the scope of that project. And, since some believe that she is bisexual, while others do not, it seems that she belongs in the LGBT category to me. 107.20.16.111 (talk) 19:26, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
Per above, I reverted your removal of the LGBT category from the Xena article. I also brought up this topic - bisexual or LGBT category? - on the talk pages of the Xena and Gabrielle articles to help form WP:Consensus about the issue. 107.20.16.111 (talk) 19:49, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
The actress saying that well after the series doesnt define the character though. the character has not been shown to identify as any of those. being a gay icon would not warrent inclusion in an lgbt category. are there any reliable sources that show these characters identifying as such. also plenty of real and fictional figures are tagged with lgbt studies due to being lgbt rights campaigners or icons for lgbt people it does not show any identification on those figures part.RafikiSykes (talk) 20:00, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
I know that the actress saying that doesn't define the character's sexual orientation; I have stated that it doesn't in my edit summaries to the article and in the talk page discussion I started there about this topic. Like I also stated there, there are reliable sources showing that many in the LGBT community and outside of it identify Xena and Gabrielle as lesbian or bisexual. What you say about the LGBT tag is exactly what I'm trying to say about the LGBT category. It doesn't have to mean that the character identifies as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. Further, no character or real-life person identifies their sexual orientation to be LGBT. They identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (transgender not even being a sexual orientation), or by some other term, which is why you have the vast majority of LGBT characters being placed in a specific sexual orientation category. Not the LGBT category. When they do not personally identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender, or even by terms like pansexual or homoflexible, but are shown or implied to be lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender, they can be added to the LGBT category. That category is used for characters whose sexual orientations are ambiguous and for characters who are cited as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender by reliable sources while they or the show's creators have never identified them as such. The category is simply about characters who are identified as LGBT by reliable sources. It says "A category of fictional LGBT-identified characters appearing in films, television shows, books, comic books, and video games." That's Xena and Gabrielle. 23.20.59.196 (talk) 15:26, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
But that category is identifying the characters as something within the LGBT umbrella and no reliable canon source shows them as such. Only discussions outside of the show which have varying views.RafikiSykes (talk) 16:22, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure how else to explain my argument to you. I'd just be repeating myself. I will say, however, that they are "within the LGBT umbrella" for the reason I stated above. Maybe we should take this issue to a related WikiProject or open it up to a WP:RfC. 23.20.59.196 (talk) 23:51, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
Sure I wouldnt object to either of those.RafikiSykes (talk) 15:21, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Alex Eadie edit

Hello RafikiSykes, thanks for your notice about the edits this account made to Alex Eadie's page. They were the actions of my girlfriend, his grand-daughter, on hearing the news of him passing. It was a single use account so we probably won't be making any more edits. I'm glad to see that the article has been expanded fully. JemE1983 (talk) 22:22, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Thats cool. Let me know if there happens to be any more problematic info from obits and I will remove it if needed.RafikiSykes (talk) 15:23, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

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Changing categories

Please can you not manually change categories that way - it leads to all manner of confusion and the categories becoming detached from watchlists.

The best way to do that rename is to propose it at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy. Timrollpickering (talk) 17:19, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

OK I will do that in future.RafikiSykes (talk) 17:23, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes I am her uncle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.147.76.69 (talk) 20:16, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

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'Fictional transsexuals'

Please cease and desist from continuing to add to your "fictional transsexuals" page. In particular I will continue to revert any such change to the Hayley Cropper page. I suggest you research the usage of the word "transsexual" as a noun, and its offensiveness to trans people. Also, the category of "Fictional LGBT characters" covers this perfectly adequately and requires no further categorisation. I am considering appealing this higher should this continue. Hardylane (talk) 08:33, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

I have seen this usage frequently from trans people and ITV sources also confirm this usage "Street History
1998: Enjoys a courtship with Roy Cropper but shocks him by revealing she is a transsexual and used to be a man called Harold
Travels to Amsterdam for her final operation and is delighted when Roy arrives and takes her home
Starts work as a machinist at Underworld"[3]. As reliable sources go along with this usage I will be happy to take this further if needed. RafikiSykes (talk) 08:40, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
An ITV website is not a legitimate source about transsexualism. I suggest you research on transgender websites.

http://www.tsroadmap.com/wisdom/t-word.html http://www.deeplyproblematic.com/2010/05/transgender-is-adjective-not-noun-or.html http://community.feministing.com/2010/05/24/transgender-is-an-adjective-not-a-noun-or-a-verb/ http://tranifesto.com/2010/07/01/male-female-transgender-pick-one/ Please try and be sensitive about this. Hardylane (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:48, 15 February 2012 (UTC).

Those mostly talk about transgender I will agree I have seldom seen that word as a plural.RafikiSykes (talk) 11:15, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
I have done that also though I was showing most correctly by sources direcly related to that charactor. Further usage by Christine Burns of press for change. "Britains transsexuals secured a vital win on that cold Friday afternoon."[4]RafikiSykes (talk) 08:51, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
The piece you quote is from a 1996 article by Christine Burns. This was written 16 years ago, and terms of reference have moved on. In that time, transsexual people have fought for, and won, important legal rights, and their acceptance in the wider community has been growing. It is therefore incumbent upon writers to refer to trans people in the terms to which they themselves wish to be addressed. I have emailed ITV about the wording on their website this morning. Edit: If you look at the Wikipedia article Transsexualism, you will notice that, according to current polite usage, "transsexual" is not used as a noun once. Hardylane (talk) 09:05, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
That article has transsexuals as a plural term well into double figures?RafikiSykes (talk) 10:13, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Further to that. "A transsexual" is often used in that article. Plus it says "The word "transsexual" is most often used as an adjective rather than a noun – a "transsexual person" whilst one use may be more frequent it is far from absolute and both are used by a variety of sources including present day trans people.RafikiSykes (talk) 10:36, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
This should ultimately clarify the issue. http://www.transmediawatch.org/guidance_glossary.html Hardylane (talk) 09:50, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Yes that is one groups media wording guide. Any word/word usage at all connected to this is probably going to be an issue to someoe somewhere. As said above one use may be more often but it is not the only.RafikiSykes (talk) 10:36, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Most modern trans people I am aware of are not bothered by this usage. A quote from Drew giving talks to educate people."Some straight and married men have a thing for transsexuals," Primary school children should be taught about transsexuals from the age of 10 and have the option of jabs that delay the onset of puberty, according to Drew-Ashlyn Cunningham, one of the stars of Channel 4's My Transsexual Summer documentary series.
The category you have issue with was named in line with fictional bisexuals and similar categories. Transsexual men/women/people/indviduals would not really work as not all are men or women, not all the characters are human/people and not all that will go in there are single individuals.RafikiSykes (talk) 10:50, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Whether or not individuals are bothered or not about the usage of the word as a noun, I think you have to accept that there are copious amounts of reference that, generally, it is not. The Trans Media Watch site alone should be an accepted citation for this, as being the most current learning on this matter, not a reality television celebrity. Hardylane (talk) 14:22, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry but I am not entirely convinced by what you say. Most of the links you gave were about the word transgender and attitudes about the use of transsexual vary from person. I have look at each of your repies here and answered in turn. Your statemment about the transsexual wiki article was also not consistent with the article.RafikiSykes (talk) 20:55, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
This is taking up too much of my time. I wonder what would convince you. Another 20 links? I can do that too. No one term of reference is definitive on any subject, but it is incumbent of any writer to at the very least attempt to address best practice.

Quote from the Talk section of "transsexualism" : "Note how using "transgender" as a personal noun is much less acceptable than using "transsexual" as a personal noun. I believe that usage such as "A transsexual was having lunch right next to me!" continues and contributes to the dehumanization of transsexual people. I propose that our articles exclusively use, and advocate the exclusive use of, transsexual as an adjective. Thus, "Transsexual women have objected..." but not "transsexuals have objected."

The Trans Media Watch site gives you all the information you need, and is currently supported by many media organisations in the UK. Using "transsexual" as a noun is not good practice. What exactly is your agenda here? Why are you so keen to impose your point of view on this matter? It is YOUR point of view, and that of some perhaps slightly less-enlightened individuals. If you were a decent person, you'd accept the fact that it IS offensive, it DOES objectify an already oppressed section of society and it IS unfair to continue to do so. Anything less is just ignorance and selfishness. Hardylane (talk) 01:27, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I am more concerned about your agenda. A brief glance at your edits indicate a rather narrow subject area and and some rather forceful views reinforcing a single point of view relating to this minority. I was not the only one to revert you actions re this category so you are editing against consensus. I happily invite a checkuser should you start accussing me of being another of your reverters. Transsexuals as a plural is not objectifying it is used in wiki plentifully including the transsexualism article and allows description of trans men trans women and trans individuals that defy those definitions.RafikiSykes (talk) 01:39, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
Thats is a nonsensical comparison I would not describe a single individual as transsexual instead of a gender but this is applying to males females and others where the transsexuality is the single common factor.RafikiSykes (talk) 01:42, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
Since you are incapable of showing sensitivity and sense on this matter, I am ending this discussion, as it is like having a conversation with a brick wall. Hopefully others will pull you up on it. Hardylane (talk) 08:42, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Since you are continuing with this, against collective wisdom... I offer an alternative. "Fictional Transsexual Characters" . Hardylane (talk) 19:47, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Clive Feigenbaum

You placed a neutrality tag on this article. I have just had a look at it and it does seem fairly well referenced actually. Do you agree that the tag should be removed? Philafrenzy (talk) 10:00, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Hmm I still have issues with the focus. I think I will ask for a third opinion.RafikiSykes (talk) 04:54, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

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Um, simply reverting me on this category days after I sufficiently made my point isn't going to solve anything. All it's going to do is cause me to revert you in turn. How you don't understand why these characters fit in the LGBT category after I explained to you exactly how they do is beyond me (they are cited in LGBT sources, particularly as representing the LGB community and as gay icons!) but I suggest you read over what I stated again (which can be seen on their talk pages). I already suggested that we take this to WP:RfC or some other form of WP:Dispute resolution. You should have done that instead of reverting yet again. It's not like I'm going away. 23.20.110.18 (talk) 09:37, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

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Newsflash: I know that you are the IPs. It's evident by their coincidental appearance on two relatively low-traffic articles, as well as your current IP's editing style. Your being absent from your registered account for days now does not help your case; it hurts it. So just to put it out there: You are one lousy editor, you know that? To log out and edit as an IP to make it seem as though another person agrees with you, in addition to avoid WP:3RR being linked to your registered account, and to then go on a crusade (as a different IP) against all Xena-related articles all because you have yet to get your way on the issue of the LGBT category? Then you have the nerve to follow me to an unrelated article and revert all because I've been reverting you? Ugh, what are you, 5? If you'd actually taken the time to read my dispute with that editor on their talk page, you'd see that I am right. Two other editors have agreed with me. And if you did take the time to see that, then your revert is all the more atrocious. You do know that Wikipedians with WP:User check can trace your IP to your registered account, right? That is, if you weren't smart enough to use a proxy both times. 79.170.50.46 (talk) 16:24, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

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Saw your revision from Rettendon Place to Rettendon. Liz has always said the old vicarage she lived in was opposite the church, and said church is a good mile south of Rettendon itself, in the hamlet of Rettendon Place. Interesting point - she may claim to be an Essex girl, but she certainly wasn't born there... or in England or Wales at all. There's no record of a birth for any Elizabeth Ann Jones in September 1958 anywhere. I'm pretty sure she was born in Hanover, in Germany. A Liz Jones appears in the army births overseas for the right time period. Oh, and neither of her parents were Welsh, unless they've moved Gosforth since 1914. :-) Andrew G. Doe (talk) 09:53, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

The source only said Rettendon though do you have a reference saying Rettendon Place? RafikiSykes (talk) 19:03, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
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