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Credits section

Hi ReVeluv02, is there any reason why you arranged/styled the Studio portion differently from Personnel portion in the Credits section of various articles including Next Level (Aespa song)? In my opinion, the Studio portion shouldn't be styled differently from the Personnel portion, I changed it to Place – Role because this is more consistent with the Personnel portion which uses Person – Role. Paper9oll (🔔📝) 10:44, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Paper9oll! I was about to leave something in your talk message too! Regarding the formatting of the studio and personnel, so sorry about that. I was only following the previous formats I did, as every song articles here on Wikipedia follows the format that you have removed. May it be a featured article or good article, or any song article with complete details regarding "Credits and personnel", it also follows a format where studio is different from personnel. That is the reason I changed your format. :) However, you have a point on your reasoning regarding the format! Anyway, thank you for updating the articles from time to time! ^^ ReVeluv02 (talk) 10:50, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
@ReVeluv02 Ah I see, then I think the older articles should also be updated to Place – Role matching with Personnel portion of Person – Role for more consistency. Paper9oll (🔔📝) 10:52, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
@Paper9oll Ah sure it's up to you! I understand! Also, I was actually doing that format for aesthetic reasons (rather than consistency) as it is understood already from the personnel that this was their role on that studio. Moreover, placing "at" before the studio like "Recorded at SM BoomingSystem" is also a good format. Anyway, let's use your format as your reason seems more feasible. :) Thank u so much! ReVeluv02 (talk) 10:57, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
@ReVeluv02 Ok cool. Will try to update older articles as much as possible. Thanks you and have a nice weekend! Paper9oll (🔔📝) 11:02, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

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SMTOWN or SM Town?

Hi ReVeluv02, this is regarding SMTOWN Live, SMTOWN Live Culture Humanity, and SMTOWN Week, which are created by you. As you removed the redirect for 2021 Winter SMTOWN : SMCU EXPRESS using 2021 Winter SM Town: SMCU Express as suppose to 2021 Winter SMTOWN: SMCU Express (ignore the redlink, I created the redirect previously but not sure why it was deleted and became draft), hence I'm a bit confused by that. Should the 3 articles mentioned earlier be moved to SM Town Live, SM Town Live Culture Humanity, and SM Town Week to make sure it is aligned with SM Town and also 2021 Winter SM Town: SMCU Express? I believed using SMTOWN is not allowed (going against the guidelines) even though it is common name used in SM's official materials and also by secondary news sources even though it is more preferred and familiar, unless I'm wrong or there is guidelines/policies I missed out on. Paper9oll (🔔📝) 11:40, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

@Paper9oll Hi! I'm sorry about the confusion of SMTOWN usage. From what I remember, the rules state that we cannot use SMTOWN. When I was a beginner here in Wikipedia, I tried moving the information from SM Town to SMTOWN but was notified about the usage of capitalization. However, I think when I made SMTOWN Live, SMTOWN Live Culture Humanity, and SMTOWN Week, I was going against the rules (though I can't really remember where that rules were) of naming an article. I think the right ones are SM Town Live, SM Town Live Culture Humanity, and SM Town Week. I'm really sorry about the confusion Paper9oll. Previously, I used SMTOWN since it doesn't really look good when SMTOWN is used as SM Town, SMTown, or Smtown, that's why I badly wanted to use SMTOWN. I too am confused about using SMTOWN rather than SM Town as I rarely see the usage of it. Thank you very much for bringing this up. ReVeluv02 (talk) 11:51, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
@ReVeluv02 Ah okay, so I guess the three article should be moved to use SM Town then. Paper9oll (🔔📝) 11:54, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
@Paper9oll I guess too. Once again, I'm really sorry about that. I'm trying to find a talk page regarding SMTOWN usage over SM Town. I think it has the same situation on Exo rather than EXO, don't you think so? Oh by the way, belated Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays! ReVeluv02 (talk) 11:58, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
@ReVeluv02 No apologies needed 😅 as I'm confused as well. I tried finding around in various articles as well but couldn't find any that agreed on using all-caps title. I be moving it to be used SM Town then. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays. Paper9oll (🔔📝) 12:00, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

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@Paper9oll Awww thank you so much! Happy New Year once again! :) ReVeluv02 (talk) 08:54, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Do not redirect an article that precedes yours

I created The ReVe Festival 2022: Feel My Rhythm minutes before yours. Sorry, but the earlier article takes precedence. Please move your own content there. Ss112 06:21, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi! The article title isn't correct and doesn't reflect the references. The right name for the article is The ReVe Festival 2022 – Feel My Rhythm or (The ReVe Festival 2022 - Feel My Rhythm) not The ReVe Festival 2022: Feel My Rhythm. ReVeluv02 (talk) 06:23, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Doesn't matter. An earlier article takes precedence, even if "incorrectly" titled. While I see now you were working on your own version of the article in your own userspace, you copy-pasted the content into mainspace and my article still precedes yours, so please keep it all in one place. I created it there because some sources use an en dash, some use a hyphen and when there's no consensus on the matter in sources, we default to a colon (:). A hyphen, even if used in sources, is not considered correct Wikipedia naming per MOS:TMRULES. We would use an en dash there. The ReVe Festival 2022 – Feel My Rhythm is actually correct. Ss112 06:25, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
I did not want you to replace my entire article. Also, we do not use Template:Start date in the singles template attached to infoboxes. It should only be used in the infobox itself. Dreamus is a distributor, not a label, so please stop putting in the label parameters of tables and infoboxes. I suggest when you work on Red Velvet articles in future you stop copy-pasting the little write-ups Korean-language sources do to describe each song. You have passed these descriptions of each song off as if they are your own words, and tried to act as if things like calling a song "groovy" is WP:NEUTRAL. It isn't. You copied this directly and it's plagiarism. You have plagiarised these sources so completely you might as well be another biased Korean news source. Wikipedia is an encyclopedic, not a fansite.
Whatever Paper9oll says in reply to your thread on their talk page, they cannot move an article for you and it would not be right for them to undo what I have done either. My article precedes any other put in mainspace. Ss112 06:38, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
I have moved the article. As I said above, I admit The ReVe Festival 2022 – Feel My Rhythm would be the correct title (I at first thought you had created it at The ReVe Festival 2022 - Feel My Rhythm, note the hyphen), but I at first erred on the side of caution and used a colon there because it was unclear, and the previous ReVe articles use colons (The ReVe Festival: Finale, The ReVe Festival: Day 1, The ReVe Festival: Day 2). Ss112 06:59, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi! I have read your response regarding the article. Sorry for the late response. I have noted already of your message towards me. I didn't intend to replace your article as a whole. Thank you for clarifying that Dreamus isn't a lable as I have seen a lot of that in infoboxes from mostly SM Entertainment related articles. Regarding the usage of Korean sources on the article, I intend to use it as there were not many sources stating information for the article while Korean sources has a lot (understandable since Red Velvet is Korean). I didn't know that using such sources will make me a fansite. I wanted to express that I am not a fansite and have no intentions to be one here on Wikipedia. I simply used it as a reference/citation, nothing more. Thank you for everything and sorry for the misunderstandings. I will try to improve on the future. ReVeluv02 (talk) 07:28, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Stop plagiarising press release wording

Despite my telling you several days ago to stop plagiarising Korean press releases or news articles and passing off their fanciful descriptions of songs or concepts as if it is your own wording or encyclopedic, and you acknowledging you would try to stop the fansite wording, you have again done it on Feel My Rhythm. You have, without putting something between quotation marks, referred to the song presenting a "dark scenario while the group remains super elegant". You should not be referring to a girl group as super elegant in Wikipedia text without it being a quote. That is not neutrally worded, that sounds like something a fan would say. You're allowed to be a fan, but you are not supposed to be writing Wikipedia with a glowing perspective of something that you like. This is a violation of both WP:COPYVIO and WP:NEUTRAL. Ss112 09:20, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

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Hello. I see you have disclosed paid editing on Smithmore Castle and Benjamin Epicure. Were you also paid to edit Kindred Credit Union? If so, this needs to be disclosed. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 07:56, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Spicy! I am well aware of the importance of disclosure regarding paid editing! With Kindred Credit Union, it was supposed to be paid but I wasn't paid since the client did not respond to any of my responses. So I just published the draft I have instead of keeping it on my sandbox for a long time. However, if in case that I get paid, I would disclose the moment after I get paid. Regardless, thank you for the reminder! I appreciate it a lot! Have a good day ahead! ReVeluv02 (talk) 08:45, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
That's an interesting situation. WP:Paid-editing disclosure states that If you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for your contributions to Wikipedia, you must disclose who is paying (emphasis mine). I would think it is proper to disclose in these circumstances; even if you only expected to be paid for writing the article, the same concerns about neutrality apply. The article does read very promotionally, e.g. Kindred Credit Union partners with organizations, faith communities, credit unions, local businesses, and others to connect people, networks, financial resources, physical spaces, and products and services to make significant impact on important themes, found in their Community Inspiration Framework. Spicy (talk) 09:03, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Okay! Your comments regarding Kindred Credit Union is noted! I actually tried making the article as non-promotional as possible but didn't know that there are statements that were still non-neutral. I did remove already the statement you commented about and added the paid template on the article's talk page. Thank you. ReVeluv02 (talk) 09:21, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

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Hello @Paper9oll! Thank you for informing me. :) I forgot to put the {{Paid}} template as it was a redirect rather than a standalone article. I have now added the template as of this moment on the talk page of the existing articles belonging to paid category. I also updated my personal page regarding which of my contributions belong to paid articles. Sorry for the inconvenience and rest assured that I will comply with the Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements on the future. ReVeluv02 (talk) 03:14, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

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