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December 2014
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Returnnew (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Caught by an open proxy block but this host or IP is not an open proxy. Place any further information here. Returnnew (talk) 18:45, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You are blocked directly, and will need to address the reason for your block. Kuru (talk) 02:44, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
- Not a proxy block; Bbb23 blocked you per an AN/I discussion here and this. Origamiteⓣⓒ 22:22, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Injustice
[edit]User:Bbb23 This is a injustice, I'm not charliewolf79! I'm Returnnew Returnnew (talk) 19:27, 10 February 2015 (UTC) Not right for me to be blocked , you can unblock, please Returnnew (talk) 19:27, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Hello User:Jackmcbarn I'm sorry for the trouble I've caused not happen again . But I'm not Returnnew , He is my cousin , and we have the same interests , I hope you accept my apology and forget everything. I do not speak English well .
Sorry
by Charliewolf79
Hello User:Jackmcbarn are Returnnew I hope that now everything is clear and you can take off the block thanks --Returnnew (talk) 21:45, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
- Please explain your name if you are not an old user returning, and if your cousin can edit on this account it has to stay blocked forever because of the rule of one person, one account. Also, it looks like meatpuppetry to me, if you are not Charliewolf. Origamiteⓣⓒ 21:55, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
No! I'm Returnnew Returnnew (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2015 (UTC) , please let take away the block
Returnnew (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
- Again, please explain your username, and how exactly did Charliewolf edit from your account here? Origamiteⓣⓒ 22:13, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Because Every now my cousin charliewolf uses my computer Returnnew (talk) 22:20, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Excuse me, do you speak italian?
Returnnew (talk) 22:21, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
- I do not, and do not see how that is relevant. Also, I am curious how he did it in an edit with text from you. This is still meatpuppetry if it is true, and sockpuppetry if it isn't. Origamiteⓣⓒ 22:44, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
I do not understand! Why I have entered the block ? I have not done anything wrong to deserve the block . I want to remove the block?! Please?!
Returnnew (talk) 22:56, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think I know you. Why did you mention me? Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:35, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Excuse me Jackmcbarn but who entered the block ? You? or User:Bbb23? or User:JohnBlackburne? Returnnew (talk) 08:13, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Do you want to get this off the block ?! Please? Returnnew (talk) 10:08, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
- Bbb23 blocked you because of a report from JohnBlackburne. But do you know who @Jackmcbarn: blocked? Charliewolf79! Origamiteⓣⓒ 13:45, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
I do not care anything about my cousin charliewolf79! I'm Returnnew! (Returnnew (talk) 14:25, 11 February 2015 (UTC))! and I want to be unlocked! Ok?!? Returnnew (talk) 14:25, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Is there someone who speaks Italian like me? (Returnnew!) please! Returnnew (talk) 14:31, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
- I have asked an admin who speaks Italian to look at this. If he decides to come he will look at this soon. Origamiteⓣⓒ 20:14, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very muchOrigamite Origamite Returnnew (talk) 20:30, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Bb23 why you do not remove this block???????? Returnnew (talk) 07:07, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
JohnnBlackburne ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Charliewolf79#25_December_2014 )and Bbb23 I'm not Charliewolf79 Why you do not remove this block? please! Returnnew (talk) 12:15, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Returnnew, you have to stop these constant repetitive plaintive comments. I have no intention of unblocking you, and continuing cries from you that say nothing except "unblock me" and "I'm not charliewolf" won't change that. In addition, requests to non-administrators are virtually useless as they do not have the ability to unblock you. They can advise you within reason but that's about it. I'm not sure how an Italian-speaking administrator will help, but if Origamite wants to facilitate that and is able to convince an admin to come here, fine. In the meantime, unless you have something meaningful to say, don't say anything. If you continue as you have, I will revoke your talk page access and you won't be able to comment at all.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:51, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Posso aiutarti?
[edit]Io non scrivo molto bene in italiano, ma capisco italiano abbastanza. Posso aiutarti? The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 20:06, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Finalmente, intanto ti ringrazio moltissimo JamesBWatson per la tua disponibilità. Allora la questione è che mio cugino ( registrato su wikipedia con il nome di charliewolf79) e io ( registrato con il nome di returnew) condividiamo la stessa passione per le arti marziali, film di Bruce Lee ecc... Entrambi insieme con i miei parenti usiamo a casa mia lo stesso computer, però ognuno ha il proprio accaunt che USA personalmente. Mio cugino purtroppo ha un brutto carattere e ogni tanto diventa un po insistente e proprio per questo si è litigato con altri membri di wikipedia e proprio per questo è stato bloccato. La persona che ha bloccato mio cugino ha la mia piena approvazione, ha fatto bene, infatti mi sono arrabbiato con lui e gli ho detto di non comportarsi più cosi con il mio computer. Dopo mi sono registrato io con il mio accaunt di Returnew con lo stesso computer che ha usato mio cugino. è intervenuto JohnBleackburne ed eliminava tutti i miei interventi, cioè non si limitava a leggere o correggere, ma ogni cosa che scrivevo io lui la eliminava, anche una semplice virgola o punto, cioè non leggeva quello che io scrivevo,mi eliminava qualsiasi cosa, allora io giustamente mi sono arrabbiato e ho detto che JhonBleakburne è un vandalo. Dopo sempre JohnBleackburne mi ha mandato un messaggio dicendomi che io sono Charliewolf e dopo mi ha fatto mettere il blocco da Bbb23. Ma io che ho fatto di male? Perché mi metteno il blocco? Cosa centro io con charliewolf, adesso nessuno a casa mia può usare wikipedia perché c'è questo blocco. Quello Ché chiedo io si può bloccare una persona solo per un dubbio? Se mi fossi comportato male come mio cugino allora potrei dargli ragione. Potete togliermi il blocco? State tranquilli che da questo computer Charliwolf non farà più nulla. Questo computer lo userò soltanto io. Però potete togliermi il blocco per favore? Fiducioso di un tuo riscontro positivo e nel ringraziarti nuovamente cordialmente saluto e mi scuso per mio cugino Returnnew (talk) 21:26, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- Google translation: Finally, in the meantime I thank you very much for your time JamesBWatson. So the question is that my cousin (recorded on wikipedia as the charliewolf79) and I (registered under the name of returnew) share the same passion for the martial arts, Bruce Lee movies etc ... Both together with my relatives we use the same computer at my house, but everyone has their own accaunt USA that personally. My cousin unfortunately has a bad temper and sometimes gets a little insistent and for this he had a fight with other members of wikipedia and as such has been blocked. The person who has blocked my cousin to my full approval, he did well, in fact I got angry with him and told him not to behave more so with my computer. After I registered myself with my accaunt Returnew with the same computer that he used my cousin. JohnBleackburne intervened and eliminated all my actions, that is, not merely read or correct, but everything that I wrote him eliminated, even a simple comma or point, that he did not read what I wrote, I eliminated anything, then I rightly I got angry and said I JhonBleakburne is a vandal. After JohnBleackburne always sent me a message telling me that I am Charliewolf and after I did put the block from Bbb23. But I who have done wrong? Why I will put the block? What I center with charliewolf, now no one in my house can use wikipedia because there is this block. What a wonder that I can block a person for just a doubt? If I misbehaved as my cousin then I might agree with him. You can take off the block? Rest assured that this computer Charliwolf will not do anything. This computer will use it only me. But you can take off the block, please? Confident of your feedback and thank you once again cordially greet and I apologize for my cousin --Bbb23 (talk) 22:33, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- I don't believe any of this. Charliewolf's edits were inherently disruptive. Returnnew's edits were similar and also disruptive. There was also an IP from Italy who participated in these festivities (blocked for a month by Mike V).--Bbb23 (talk) 22:41, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
JamesBWatson nella'attesa di una tua risposta, mi riservo di rispondere all'umorismo provocatorio di Bbb23, qualunque sia la vostra decisione, ho fiducia negli amministratori di wikipedia e sono sicuro che prenderanno la decisione più saggia. Ad ogni modo vi chiedo: cosa comporta togliermi il blocco ed eventualmente nel caso in cui si ripetessero gli atteggiamenti di charliewolf79 potete liberamente rimettere il blocco. Returnnew (talk) 23:10, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Hello Bbb23, sorry but you seem a little angry , although I do not see why. If I'm wrong I apologize . I asked to remove the block and is permissible to ask , answer is courtesy . Possibly in case you decide to take off the block , though I would not behave properly , you can always get back the block , right? I hope that you and I can get along with a handshake symbolic.
Translate:
Salve Bbb23, scusa ma mi sembri leggermente arrabbiato, anche se non vedo il motivo. Se ho sbagliato chiedo scusa. Io ho chiesto di togliermi il blocco e domandare è lecito, rispondere è cortesia. Eventualmente nel caso in cui decidiate di togliermi il blocco, se io non dovessi comportarmi in maniera corretta, puoi sempre rimettermi il blocco, giusto? Spero che io e te possiamo andare d'accordo con una stretta di mano simbolica. Returnnew (talk) 10:12, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- Ho letto quello che Lei ha scritto, ma adesso no ho tempo per rispondere. Risponderò quando avrò tempo. Mi dispiace, ma forse sarà lunedí. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 15:03, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
- Non c'è problema JamesBWatson si prenda tutto il tempo che vuole, so essere paziente e grazie ancora per la disponibilità. Returnnew (talk) 15:12, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
- My own translation. James: I read what you wrote but I don't have the time now to respond. I will respond when I have time. I'm sorry, but it will probably be Monday. Returnnew: Not a problem for you to take all the time you need, so I will be patient and thanks again for your availability (last word is a more literal transalation, probably has a better colloquial one).--Bbb23 (talk) 16:19, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Returnnew, although I read your messages in Italian without difficulty, I am answering in English, for two reasons. Firstly, while I am reasonably able to read Italian, I find writing Italian more difficult. Secondly, on English Wikipedia it is more helpful if as much as possible is in English, to make it possible for other editors and administrators to understand what is being said.
I have looked at your editing history, and the editing history of the account Charliewolf79. I see a number of similarities, some of them not the sort of things I would expect to see because two people share the same interests ("la stessa passione"). Very often in such cases the most revealing information comes from very small details of how people edit, so small that they are very unlikely to be conscious of them, and so they are unable to hide them. There is also the username "Returnnew", which suggests someone who has edited from another account and is returning with a new one. It is even more striking that you have chosen not to answer questions about why you chose that username. I am therefore very much inclined to think that you probably are the same person. However, the account Returnnew has not made any of the grossly unacceptable kinds of edits that the account Charliewolf79 did. It looks very much as though you have realised that what you were doing was unacceptable, and decided to make a fresh start with new account, this time being more constructive. If that is so, then if you had admitted that it was so then I would certainly be recommending an unblock to give you another chance, but I am cautious about doing that for an editor who seems to be lying. There is also just a possibility that you really are telling the truth, though I think it is 95% probable that you really are the same person as Charliewolf79.
I have in the past unblocked editors who have done things worse than Charliewolf79 and Returnnew have done, after they have shown that they understand the reasons for the blocks, and promised not to do the same again. Quite often, that results in Wikipedia gaining a useful editor, and the worst that ever happens is that the editor continues to be disruptive, and is very quickly blocked again. As I have already said, I would be willing to unblock you if you admitted that you were Charliewolf79, and you promised us you would not edit in the same obstructive ways as before. Even if you continue to deny that you are the same person, I am just about prepared to consider a possible unblock, since you do seem to have decided not to continue the sort of editing that led to the original block. (Any unblock would be made on the understanding that you are likely to be blocked again without any further warning if you ever make any more disruptive edits.) However, there can be no question of unblocking someone who seems to be probably lying about an earlier account without consulting the blocking administrator. Bbb23, what do you think? The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 15:55, 17 February 2015 (UTC) OK JamesBWatson sono io CharlieWolf79, ma lascia stare lo sblocco, sono troppo stanco per continuare, grazie lo stesso comunque per la tua disponibilità, ma non mi va di continuare. Ciao Returnnew (talk) 19:29, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Google translation: "I am CharlieWolf79, but let it be the release, I'm too tired to continue, thanks all the same anyway for your time, but I'm not going to continue." I think, though, that "lascia stare lo sblocco" probably means let the block remain.
- @Bbb23:Yes. It means "leave the unblock", presumably in the sense of "don't bother about unblocking". The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 11:39, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- @JamesBWatson: Obviously, the issue is now moot, but it's always a pleasure to read your detailed analyses. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:25, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Hello Bbb23, I have been thinking a lot: you can take off the block? Please? Returnnew (talk) 22:23, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
- You'd have to post another
{{unblock}}
request to request it. Origamiteⓣⓒ 20:16, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
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Returnnew (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
There is no more reason to keep the block for a long time. Now I understand that when I have a problem I call administratorsReturnnew (talk) 23:21, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Yeah, except that tiny problem where you just admitted to abusing multiple accounts (after lying multiple times), in violation of our policies. - This account will not be unblocked. If you wish to make another unblock request at random, I suggest you use your actual account to do so. — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 01:01, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
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[edit]Hello JohnBlackburne, I had problems with this page , you may help me to put this image has on the Commons? Please Returnnew (talk) 16:40, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
- The problem is Commons only allows free images, not fair use images such as that. See Commons:Fair use. Such images have to be uploaded to 'local' wikipedias, i.e. the ones for each language such as this one, according to their local rules.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 13:32, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
OK, thank you JohnBleackburne but I have changed my mind: I ha ve got Media files for File:Concord production inc.jpg, I can send you an email? Returnnew (talk) 18:57, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- Don't bother e-mailing me. I generally ignore and delete the e-mails I get which are about Wikipedia matters that should be discussed on Wikipedia. Don't forget I'm not an admin so if you want any action taking like unblocking you then e-mailing me is less likely to get it done than posting here. And I've disabled the image in your reply; by the fair use policy it can only be used in the page or pages it is meant for. You can only link to it here or in another discussion.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 19:42, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Ciao JamesBWatson, scusa se ti disturbo, potresti solo dire a JohnBlackburne, che gli avevo mandato un messaggio se poteva metteremi un file multimediale che avevo preparato prima della nostra discussione(solo la legislazione statunitense permetterebbe il mio file, per questo non lo pubblico nel wikipedia italiano,a parte questo), è molto bello è piacerà sicuramente e dato che sono bloccato volevo mandare una e-mail, comunque se non è possibile non fa niente, e scusami ancora per il disturbo. Ciao Returnnew (talk) 20:00, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- Google translation: JamesBWatson Hello, sorry to bother you, you could just tell JohnBlackburne, I had sent a message if he could metteremi a media file that I had prepared before our discussion (only US law would allow my file, why do not the public in wikipedia Italian, apart from that), is very beautiful and is sure to please because I'm stuck I wanted to send an e-mail, however, if you can not do anything, and yet I'm sorry for the trouble. Hello Returnnew (talk) 20:00, 19 February 2015 (UTC) Origamiteⓣⓒ 00:12, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
- You are free to make another unblock request if you like. However, as long as you are blocked you should not be asking other editors to make edits for you, which is a way of evading the effect of the block. Usually, a blocked editor is allowed to edit their own talk page, so that they can request an unblock, and take part in discussions related to the block. However, talk page access during a block is not supposed to be a way of getting someone else to do the editing that you would have done yourself if you were not blocked. (In fact, blocked editors who continue to use talk page access in that way may even have their talk page access removed.) The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:23, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
- Salve a tutti: Coffee, JohnBlackburne, JamesBWatson, Bbb23, Origamite, Aspects, intanto scusate la mia ignoranza dell'inglese poi vorrei soltanto dirvi che il file che volevo pubblicare qui è questo, scusate e grazie per l'attenzione e sopratutto grazie a chi vorrà aggiornare il file, tanto a me non interessa se sarà a nome mio o di un'altro utente, per me è uguale, spero che vi piaccia. by --Returnnew (talk) 15:11, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
- Google translation: Meanwhile, excuse my ignorance of English then I would just like to tell you that the file I wanted to publish here si this, sorry and thank you for your attention and especially thanks to those who want to update the file, so I do not care if it will be in my name or by another user, for me is the same, I hope you like." I think the "I hope you like" is better translated "I hope it pleases you."--Bbb23 (talk) 16:22, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
File talk:Concord production inc.jpg
Returnnew (talk) 17:00, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
OK JohnBlackburne Returnnew (talk) 21:29, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Che nessuno si permette a difendere JohnBlackburne, se qualcuno si permette a difendere JohnBlackburne mi arrabbio sul serio e contatto personalmente Wikipedia, è colpa sua se io sono stato bloccato. Io ho sbagliato e ho chiesto scusa tante volte, sono stato onesto e sincero a dire che sono io Charliewolf79 e ho promesso di comportarmi bene se mi avesse re tolto il blocco e nonostante questo il blocco non è stato tolto e io ho rispettato la permanenza del blocco di Cofee. JohnnBlackburne con me fino adesso si è sempre comportato come un vandalo e voi non dite niente, adesso basta! Lui nonsa parlare, elimina e basta!...! Returnnew (talk) 21:55, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
- I don't read Italian (I assume that‘s what the above is). Your English is much better than my Italian so you might consider addressing me in English. This is the English Wikipedia after all. I am not going to try Google translate on it as that rarely works on anything more than a simple sentence.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 22:15, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
- Ah, that was you? That would be WP:block evasion, a very bad idea I think under the circumstances.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 22:22, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
JohnBlackburne This is all your fault. Are you that deletes everything that goes through your head. You're a great provocateur. You create havoc. Are you that you lose patience. You're a computer. Want to get smart to delete what you do not like. You have no respect for anyone. You are a bad person profondente. Your life is to do quarrel at all. Stop putting war. Returnnew (talk) 23:08, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
- I've revoked your access to this page and blocked your IP (User:147.163.10.201). You may use WP:UTRS to appeal.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:38, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
The Game of Death
[edit]For JohnBlackburne: The Game of Death (en chinese and english) Returnnew (talk) 16:41, 22 February 2015 (UTC)