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User:Kleinzach's Welcome

Hello, RioHondo! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. You may benefit from following some of the links below, which will help you get the most out of Wikipedia. If you have any questions you can ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or by typing four tildes "~~~~"; this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you are already loving Wikipedia you might want to consider being "adopted" by a more experienced editor or joining a WikiProject to collaborate with others in creating and improving articles of your interest. Click here for a directory of all the WikiProjects. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Happy editing! ```Buster Seven Talk 21:32, 22 March 2012 (UTC) Getting Started Wikipedia Tutorial • The five pillars of Wikipedia How to: edit a page • upload an image Getting Help Frequently Asked Questions Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and Guidelines Neutral point of view • Reliable sources Verifiability • Citing sources • No original research What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Policy for non-free content • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The Community Community Portal • Adopt-a-user program Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • Resolving disputes Build consensus • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Things to do Be bold in editing • Help develop an article Pages needing attention • Peer review Join a WikiProject • Translating articles Cleaning up: General • Spam • Vandalism Miscellaneous Categories • Disambiguity • Stubs User pages • Talk pages Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

Invitation to the Teahouse!

Hello! RioHondo, you are invited to join other new editors and friendly hosts in the Teahouse. An awesome place to meet people, ask questions and learn more about Wikipedia. Please join us! Rosiestep (talk) 04:22, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar for you

		The New Editor's Barnstar
		RioHondo, I hereby present to you this barnstar, for your positive contributions to Wikipedia, and in particular for your work on articles related to the Philippines. Well done! Mlm42 (talk) 04:40, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

A few things to keep in mind

Hi RioHondo! I noticed you've been creating a few new list articles. I don't know if you are aware of the following guidelines, but I thought I should point them out anyway: Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Stand-alone lists is Wikipedia's style guideline for lists. Of particular importance is they should have a lead section (ideally it would be quite a lot more than a single sentence). Secondly, keep in mind the "notability" guideline for creating new articles, and in particular Wikipedia:Notability#Stand-alone_lists, which says:

A list topic is considered notable if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines; notable list topics are appropriate for a stand-alone list.

I should warn you that if your lists don't satisfy that guideline, then they are at risk of being deleted (and it would be a shame to lose your work). Anyway, happy editing! :-) Mlm42 (talk) 00:33, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

An award for you

Golden Wiki Award Thanks for your recent contributions! 66.87.7.19 (talk) 15:43, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

		The Modest Barnstar
		You are among the top 5% of most active Wikipedians this past month! 67.80.64.128 (talk) 01:23, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Congratulations, RioHondo, you've recently made your 1,000th edit to articles on English Wikipedia! Thank you for improving Philippines-related content, and for all your contributions to the encyclopedia. Keep up the great work! Maryana (WMF) (talk) 22:49, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

WikiThanks

WikiThanks

In recognition of all the work you’ve done lately! 67.80.64.128 (talk) 13:51, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Philippine WikiCon

You are invited to the 3rd Philippine Wiki Conference (WikiCon) on May 26, 2012 9am-1pm at the co.lab.exchange in Pasig City. Please fill this form should you signify interest. --Exec8 (talk) 17:45, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	Philippines Barnstar of Merit
	For your efforts to create decent stubs on missing national parks! Keep it up! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:59, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Proposed blackout in protest of RA 10175

Dear RioHondo,

Greetings!

As a Filipino Wikipedian, I hope you are aware of the passage of Republic Act No. 10175, also known as the Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012, which was signed into law by President Benigno Aquino III on September 14, 2012. Currently, there is a discussion on the Tambayan, the noticeboard for Philippines-related topics, about a proposed blackout of the English Wikipedia in the Philippines in order to protest the passage of RA 10175, similar to the blackout against SOPA and PIPA held earlier this year. I feel that your input on the subject will definitely help in the discussion.

Please feel free to participate in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines#The Cybercrime Prevention Act, and I hope your input will help the Filipino Wikipedia community determine which is the best course of action against this law. Similarly, we hope to get as much input from as many Wikipedians as possible.

Thank you and maraming salamat po!

Kind regards,

Sky Harbor ^(talk) 09:37, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Tagalog help needed

Hello RioHondo, I'm contacting you because we need some Tagalog translators to help with the deployment of the new VisualEditor on tl.wikipedia. There are help pages, user guides, and description pages that need translating, as well as the interface itself. The translating work is going on over on MediaWiki: Translation Central. I also need help with a personal message for the Tagalog Wikipedians. If you are able to help in any way, either reply here, or head over to TranslationCentral. Thanks for your time, PEarley (WMF) (talk) 18:32, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Proposed merger for Lands inhabited by indigenous peoples

Greetings. You may be interested in my proposal to merge content from the new page Ancestral domains into a page to which you've contributed, Lands inhabited by indigenous peoples. I set up an area for discussion atTalk:Lands_inhabited_by_indigenous_peoples#Merger_proposal.2C_Ancestral_domain. —Largo Plazo (talk) 11:26, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

McKinley Road

RioHondo,

Your recently created article on McKinley Road deserves some praise, in my opinion. It is very well written, informative and perfect structure.

However, it requires more references so unreferenced information is not removed. Please spend some time retrieving references and adding in-line citations to the article.

If you need any help please don't hesitate to leave a note on my talk page Danielj2705 (talk) 15:18, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

RM's against WP:MOSPHIL

I find it ironic that you have started RM's to move Sagada, Balangiga, and Banaue in opposition to WP:MOSPHIL when 1½ years ago, you reverted my WP:BOLD move on some Palawan municipalities citing WP:MOSPHIL. —seav (talk) 05:49, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

• 1½ years ago, i was only starting. I joined in 2012 and i was still clueless on these naming conventions apart from the mosphil that was advertised in WT :)--RioHondo (talk) 05:55, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Hehe. I'm certainly glad you now understand the reasons for my position. :) —seav (talk) 06:11, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Philippine Barnstar of National Merit
		Thanks for creating and populating all the "Geography of <province>" categories. That was long overdue. -- P 1 9 9  ✉ 18:45, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
		this WikiAward was given to RioHondo by P 1 9 9  ✉ on 18:45, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Philippine National Railways Metro Commuter Line

Hello there. Please delete the Philippine National Railways Metro Commuter Line because it is under a section of the Philippine National Railways. Most text written were copy-paste from the original page. Thanks Hiwilms (talk) 09:19, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

• I see. You can message that article's author regarding this. --RioHondo (talk) 03:00, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

I need help from an experience wikipedia editor like you

Hi There, Some editor is trying to ruin certain Philippine related articles by continuing to use sources that are dubious and completely biased, If I could request your assistance to correct the pages he vandalized it would be of great help for these Philippine articles — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solarpiece (talk • contribs) 02:50, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Re: Legazpi City as Queen City of Southern Luzon

~~The fact that Legazpi City was named after the Gov. General has nothing to do with its nickname as the Queen City of Southern Luzon. The word Legazpi in the Governor General's name is not really a part of his name but rather it means that he came from a city in Spain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legazpi,_Spain). The Governor General's true name is Miguel Lopez and the word de Legazpi was included because it means "from Legazpi." Moreover, there are websites referring to Legazpi as the Queen City of Southern Luzon such as:

http://www.philstar.com/sports/360517/typhoon-milenyo-postpones-legazpi-city-milo-marathon

http://www.1stphilippines.com/pc-41672828c8d6adbf77e3b6e8d49814f0.html

Thanks for these sources. You would have to cite them though in the article to avoid being reverted. Although I dont 100% agree with the nickname, given that regardless of the origin of the surname (which quite a number really come from the places of origin of early individuals and families: Zaragoza, Burgos, de Leon, de Venecia, etc are all places, the name is still most associated with the governor general for whom this town was named which was a He; plus of course its a really worn out nickname; but will fix the citation nevertheless. Hope you do the same for the other paragraphs needing citations.--RioHondo (talk) 12:31, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	I hereby award you this barnstar for your tireless effort to create, review and edit articles relating to the Philippines! Exec8 (talk) 15:53, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Philippine church titles

Hi RioHondo. I was a bit surprised by your moving titles such as St. Augustine Parish Church, Bay to St. Augustine Parish Church (Bay) as it has been common practice to use the first format for churches despite the rules you quote. Maybe you should look into this further before making further moves. Good to see all your other useful work. Keep it up.--Ipigott (talk) 14:21, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

• Hey thanks. Actually, those are official titles and my understanding is that official titles only carry the name of the congregation or person to whom the church was dedicated as seen in markers or church documents. If common names are to be used, most of those churches would have gone under [[{Location-name Church}]] as in Bay Church which I would prefer personally over official names that not many are familiar with. The location enclosed in parentheses means it is not part of the name but merely serves to disambiguate or for precision. This is consistent with the standard set by San Agustin Church (Manila) and San Sebastian Church (Manila). For example, San Agustin Church in Manila is simply called San Agustin Church here just as the famous St. Patrick's Cathedral in Manhattan, NYC is not called St. Patrick's Cathedral, Manhattan nor St. Patrick's Cathedral, New York City but as simply St. Patrick's Cathedral to everyone who knows it. This is unlike placenames or subnational divisions where comma placename is commonplace as they appear in addresses.--RioHondo (talk) 02:57, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Poro Point

Hello! Your submission of Poro Point at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! – Muboshgu (talk) 17:18, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

• Hmm i don't think I ever submitted any DYK nomination, but as the author of the article nominated, i'll see what I can do. Thanks!--RioHondo (talk) 01:43, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

• RioHondo, you didn't submit any DYK nominations. However, Shhhhwwww!! has nominated three of your articles; the other two are Template:Did you know nominations/Cape Bojeador and Template:Did you know nominations/Cape Santiago, both of which have also run into issues.

You are under no obligation to pursue these nominations if you don't want to; if you do, though, I think you're going to have to take charge, because Shhhhwwww!! has made a great many DYK nominations yet has not been responsive to messages on his talk page such as the one Muboshgu left here. Please post to these other two nominations to let us know what you'd like to do (or you can post here if you don't want them to continue). Many thanks, and sorry to have to bother you like this. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:27, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

• I've just found another Shhhhwwww!! DYK nomination of one of your articles, Template:Did you know nominations/Gambling in Manila. This one has not yet been reviewed, so there's nothing to do yet, but you might want to add it to your watchlist if you're interested in pursuing the nomination so you can respond to any reviewer concerns. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:39, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

• Hi, I think i'll just focus on improving the first and last nominated articles. There's little material available on Cape Bojeador and Cape Santiago, and will just update them from time to time when new sources spring up. Thanks!--RioHondo (talk) 02:30, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks for letting me know. I'll close the Bojeador and Santiago nominations, then. In case you want to nominate your own articles in the future, the basics are that new articles needs to have been created (or moved to mainspace) within the past seven days, have a minimum of 1500 prose characters, and be well referenced. More details are at WP:DYK. Best of luck with the two remaining ones! BlueMoonset (talk) 02:39, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Gambling in Manila

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:19, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Poro Point

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Help on Loboc Church

@RioHondo:, can you help me copyedit the article on Loboc Church? An IP user is insisting his edits which started here. For example, instead of Saint Peter the Apostle Parish Church, it should be Saint Peter the Apostle parish church. I asked help from seav to copyedit it, and he manually reverted the edits, especially the capitalization issues, the IP user is pointing out. It was granted a semi-protected block (after my request). However, IP user has been posting messages on the talk page of the admin who granted the semi-protection, giving me 3RR (according to him), and posting an edit warring notice (which was stale according to the admin). Thanks. --Carlojoseph14 (talk) 14:23, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

To be honest, I've been editing here for two years but I'm still not familiar with many wiki terms. First time I heard 3RR. And I have no clue what it means to copyedit. Sorry, I haven't learned the DYKs until very recently either.--RioHondo (talk) 12:58, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Battle of Baguio (1945)

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:04, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Roosevelt Protected Landscape

RioHondo, Innotata nominated this article of yours for DYK. As you can see, some issues have been noted with the nomination, and as they involve sourcing, it's something you would have to address. Are you interested in doing so? If not, please let us know on the nomination, and it will be closed. If so, please do respond there, so we know to keep the nomination open while you work on addressing the issues. (Absent a response, it will probably be closed soon, since Innotata can't help with the issues raised.) Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:09, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Manleluag Spring Protected Landscape

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:13, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	For your exhaustive efforts in fixing/improving/adding/patrolling Philippine-related category pages, templates, and articles. You're an inspiration to us all. Sanglahi86 (talk) 14:17, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

User:RioHondo, Let's toast for Judge Florentino Floro's comprehensive contributions of encyclopedic photographs from the Philippines -- Happy New Year; after more than 120,000 photos uploaded by herein User:Ramon FVelasquez, via Donation Inter Vivos or gratuitous gift of 120,000 photos owned by Judge Floro, the other 119,000 as of today, had been uploaded by another User:Judgefloro for Judge Floro, Jr., and both total of 239,000 as of today, had a condition of sole upload in Commons since Wikipedia had no Upload Wizzard and Judge Floro did bar both Users from uploading these photos in any internet site due to his philosophy which Commons shares - of privacy, security protection of the editors, users, free and no advertisement for the education and wisdom of Filipinos, tersely - for Philippine Tourism purpose, for it is so beautiful; the 239,000 photos of Judge Floro has no duplicate and will never be duplicated worldwide, for it is not mere medium or macro-photography of Town, Provinces, not skylines, not just this or that, but microscopic photos of Barangays, the very essence of the Philippines, never ever photographed in the internet; on behalf of Judge Floro, please put User:Judgefloro and User:Ramon FVelasquez on your watch-list, for Judge Floro needs your kindness and help for these 2 editors who, for free and for no gain, but were indebted morally from Judge Floro, fulfilled the Judge's mandate of painfully and religiously uploading these 239,000 photos; One last point: I message you [1] for gratitude on the barnstar of kindness and may I ask you to consult other Commons and Wikipedia editors and administrators, if Judge Florentino Floro can appoint another editor by creating a Commons Account, to Upload Judge Floro's succeeding or to be taken pictures starting this week or month, because User:Judgefloro asked Judge Floro to be on Wiki-break since this user already almost uploaded 120,000 as User:Ramon FVelasquez had and did have now a long Wiki-Break; Judge Floro has not yet responded to User:Judgefloro to take a Wikibreak unless a kind and knowledgeable Commons editor he could trust take the uploading in the place of these 2 users editors of Donated photos of Judge Floro; hoping for your kind reply and please post it in User:Judgefloro or here; Sincerely, for these 2 Users and for Judge Florentino Floro, Happy 3 Kings--112.210.139.242 (talk) 03:07, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Barnstar!

		The Civility Barnstar
		For your engaging and collegial conduct at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barandal. Keep up the great work! St★lwart111 06:33, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Manila

Good day RioHondo. I'm concerned about the reversion you made in my edits, as I am still trying to expand these articles. A common mistake is that these places (Santa Mesa, Santa Ana, Tondo, etc.) are referred as "districts" of Manila. These places are not "districts", they are towns/parishes and is correctly referred to as "places". The "districts" of Manila refers to its congressional district. We might continue our discussion on the Manila talk page.

--PH 0447 (talk) 03:40, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

• Hi. Please feel free to start a discussion (which you should have done prior to carrying out your unexplained unilateral edits in the first place). No reference nor edit summary. We work through consensus here and please also discuss what to do with this Category:Districts of Manila created from way back with the other editors. Reminder: any unsourced essays will be removed.-RioHondo (talk) 14:16, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Re: Sindikato

Just to let you know that the page you just moved is a recurring modus operandi by Malusia22, a banned user known for writing elaborate hoaxes on organised crime and fraternity groups in the Philippines, besides being known as a serial troll. Blake Gripling (talk) 04:52, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

• Thanks for the heads up. No worries, what I did was just BAU stuff of organizing and wikifying Philippine-related articles that appear on our new articles alert.--RioHondo (talk) 03:24, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Reverting my edits due to OR and missing citations on Cavite, Imus, Marami, Pico De Loro

I need not to expound further. Although you may accept it or not, it took you time to find other references but still then lacking some info to complete and cite through context [2]. But I no longer need to blank it out or else I will be guilty for censorship.

As for Marami's OR [3] , there's no danger about it. But the problem is the inaccuracy of your sources which I was confident to expect it coming. If you trace the 405MASL information, it came from one single source and was copied over and over again by various secondary sources. We've been there and we have debunked the erroneous elevation. All you need now is to find secondary sources for it to make it reliable. Or you may need to bite PSTS soon as GeoNET does not have an info about it as well.

As for citing NHCP on Imus [4]. The new Battle of Alapan isn't in NHCP yet (if I'm not mistaken) Even the photo for that specific marker on the first Battle of Alapan marker is even incorrect and I have to replace it. I am however confident you'll find other sources too in this case. But for all the effort is worth, I hope you are doing it for Wikipedia's sake. Happy editing, kababayan! Schadow1 (talk) 17:54, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

• I'm sure you know more about those mountains than I do having been to each one of them yourself. But you have to understand there are rules here for editing content and anyone is free to remove your claims if your sources are lacking or are dubious and unreliable. You have been told that your website is unreliable. But not everything you think is your own research has not been thought of already and published by other more reliable sites. And that's the role of a WP editor, to find authoritative sources to back up your data and research. Feel free to continue with your contributions following this wikirule. Just use RS's as we're not here to prove a new theory or correct a wrong data. That's the role of the government, the academe and media.--RioHondo (talk) 03:24, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

• Placing my site as reference does not imply that it is the only source of any information I place in the wiki; (with the exception of some or most of my contributions which I cited on my site). It is not my intention to claim that they haven't been thought so already I just saved time by not looking any further. In anyway, I am humbled that you have retained most of those contributions I made which I removed due to the consensus of four editors; and retaining them back by doing more effort on trying to find another resource to try to fit it in the context. At least you found these contributions reliable but just could not accept the value of its source's reliability. So for the meantime, as basing from the consensus, we feed those who use the wiki with inaccurate information by sticking to this RS policy when other policies are also available to back more accurate information. Schadow1 (talk) 05:27, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

• If you keep digging some more, i'm sure you'll find the specific data you are trying to put out in the articles. Think of yourself as a news reporter, you have no input in the story whatsoever. You just cite your source of information, and that's pretty how much WP works also. If you believe that a claim is inaccurate, do more independent research. If you insist on using your version of the story and your own knowledge from your own blog, then I'm afraid Wikipedia is not the right platform for you.--RioHondo (talk) 00:52, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

ANI notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Comment, not technically about you, but your input would be welcome as you are involved in the issue. Winner 42 Talk to me! 23:53, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

• Hi. Thanks for the notice. Actually, this is a non-issue to me, I have no personal issues or conflict with the person involved. But the violation is clear, so this is all administrative work and sanction on the part of the administrators. Anyway, let's continue doing our part in protecting WP from spammers.--RioHondo (talk) 01:55, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

PhilWiki Community User Group

May we invite you to join the Community. Please sign up if you would like to be part of this new User Group. Thank you. --Filipinayzd (talk) 06:33, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Duplication

See List of shopping malls in the Philippines. We do not need a separate list for each mall. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 14:14, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

I did revert you but I added some changes that I think addresses some of what you were trying to say [[5]]. Maybe this will make it more accessible. I think the duplication makes it kind of spammy and if we have it as a related link all companies are shown and it's more comprehensive. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 14:19, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

I see. I was trying to find use for the article. I'm sure every country and city has its own list of shopping malls. But shopping malls listed per mall operator is different and I think it should be included to give the companies more scope. Like the listings for Cadillac Fairview, The Pyramid Companies and Westfield Corporation. Im sure there are also plenty of list articles for hotels per city, but hotel chains have their own lists too like Shangri-La Hotels and Resorts, Marriott Hotels & Resorts, Etc. Thats just to make the companies pages useful.--RioHondo (talk) 14:30, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

I understand, I can easily see by your userpage you are not here to spam them no question about that. In the past if memory serves correctly that list was grossly expanded and included phone numbers and all sorts of things. The issue I (personally) don't like those things is how are those notable other then they are owned by a large company? It's a hole in the encyclopedia, one which I can't fix obviously but sometimes we include so much that is just disorganized information glut. Blah, well Giasanos and Robinsons are the same or different? Hell in a Bucket (talk) 14:38, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Just a thought that just came to me. I started Union Avenue Historic Commercial District and there was a creation of Contributing Properties in the Historic Union Ave Commercial District, maybe we can create a separate list but I could have sworn there already was a stand alone list. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 14:42, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Gaisano and Robinsons are two different mall operators with the former being more common in the provinces than in cities. Anyways, I agree that putting too much info clutters and spams the list. Iam amenable to having an all blue-link list with nothing more added.--RioHondo (talk) 14:46, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

I can live with that. It may have been Giasano's that had the stand alone list, i got involved in this subject area because at one point a sock was working those articles. I do plan on marrying a lady from the samar islands so maybe one day I'll go check these out in person ;) Hell in a Bucket (talk) 15:22, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Don't know how to code it but how can we take that list (looks much better btw) and have them columned right to left? It would condense the page but still present all the information. I think between the combination of right to left and your change of format it does make the article much better. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 05:00, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Yup, I don't know how it looks on PC as im using my mobile to edit so i only set it to 2 columns.--RioHondo (talk) 05:20, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Tagalog

Talk:Tagalog move request to restore the old location, if you're interested. — kwami (talk) 04:15, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Metro Manila Related Articles

Sorry about the mistakes on categories and thank you for continuously fixing them.

112.209.205.170 (talk) 01:27, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Fuyot Springs National Park

Dear Riondo, I wish to inform ayou that Fuyot Springs National Park is classified as Categoriy IUCN V as stated by http://www.protectedplanet.net/about in the official record at http://www.protectedplanet.net/5209 and also in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1555450 The Filipino DENR classified it as a Natural Park which is not conflicting with the WDPA category. As for now, the infobox is then containing quite a big mistake. I also would like to inform you that the correct title of the entry should be Fuyot Spring National Park as stated in http://www.gov.ph/1938/10/08/proclamation-no-327-s-1938/ Regards.Paolobon140 (talk) 10:27, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

• Hi. Kindly provide an official declaration/proclamation/republic act/pres'l decree redesignating the national park as a protected landscape under the National Integrated Protected Areas System (NIPAS). The republic act you cited specifically designates it as a National Park, and therefore until a new law is passed concerning it, we need to follow this earlier designation which is what was indicated as one of the initial components of NIPAS. And the name, whether to use Spring or Springs is minor and correctable. Thanks.--RioHondo (talk) 10:41, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Hi, please read what is following: "ProtectedPlanet.net is the online interface for the World Database on Protected Areas (WDPA), a join project of IUCN and UNEP, and the most comprehensive global database on terrestrial and marine protected areas. ProtectedPlanet.net lets you discover the protected areas of the world through exploring the maps and intuitive searching, feeding you information from the WDPA, photos from Panoramio and text descriptions from Wikipedia.", WDPA, IUCN and UNEP are classifying the park as Category IUCN V; NIPAS is calssifying it as a Nastional park: those are 2 not conflicting definitions which are given by 2 different organisations and which are meaning 2 different things. The infobox you are using in the entry is declaring "IUCN category II (national park)" which is obviously a mistake. As for the title of the entry, the mistake is surely minor, but still remains a mistake:-) Thank youPaolobon140 (talk) 10:55, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
    • Whatever you see in the article is backed up by WP:RS, including its name Fuyot Springs which is what is posted on the DENR BMB Region 2 database site cited in the article. And I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a typo error in the legislation, considering the national park actually consists of not just one, but several springs, like those coming from the Pasa Creek, Magat Creek, Nabuluan, Kabiran Creeks, etc. as described in the R.A. I just hope the Protected Planet site did not just commit a typo error when it entered IUCN V (protected landscape) under its category. So, if it's true then noone's preventing anyone from editing the article provided you cite your references. You did not in your last edit so it was reverted.--RioHondo (talk) 14:34, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

commuter lines

Is PNR's Metro South Commuter actually one of the two commuter lines currently in service? I think it's the only one, isn't it? The Bicol commuter seems to have been suspended, it looks like. Would be of Wiki-importance to get the date of suspension of the Naga - Sipocot services, if so. Regards, Abante86 (talk) 21:32, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

• Next time the services are suspended, just add a note on their main articles. You've made those articles appear as defunct all throughout, when you know it's just temporary, going on and off service since the 1890s. Now try to undo other changes you made in other articles, other mentions of the "defunct" PNR. I have had to do the same for Pasig River Ferry Service when some guy did this same thing you did. Now when the ferry service was restored by the MMDA, you know I had to rewrite every single sentence and change every single verb back to present tense, which is extremely difficult and annoying. Nothing is every going for good.--RioHondo (talk) 02:12, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
  • The services were indefinitely suspended by PNR, not just temporary. I think it was justified, and, readers should be informed on every article about the current status. A few reverts is not difficult RioHondo. Rewriting some tenses here and there.. well, just 1 minute. The readers have been informed about this suspension, it was all for good. Keep things civilized please. You didn't answer on the Bicol commuter services. The Philippine National Railways Metro Commuter Line is one of the two commuter rail lines of the Philippine National Railways currently in service. This particular sentence I am referring to. Should be changed, shouldn't it? Abante86 (talk) 11:52, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
    • Okay I apologize for sounding rude. But actually it's not just a matter of clicking undo or revert as I had to also carefully keep those users contributions that were added after the wholesale edits to the defunct status, so it was all done manually and painstakingly. So next time, let's just use the main articles to inform readers about suspensions, a short phrase in the lead, and more details under Recent events or its new section, but leaving all the rest unchanged to be the least disruptive and keeping in mind that everything is temporary until you see all those railtracks and stations dismantled and sold for scrap. And yes, the Bicol Express line is also TEMPORARILY suspended, last time it operated was i think last year until a typhoon damaged many of its bridges. Will have to check. I just know it resumed its services under this PNoy administration but didn't last too long.--RioHondo (talk) 13:22, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
      • 2011 and 2012 were the last years passenger could make the trip to Bicol, I think [6]. That's the express though; what I meant is the Bicol commuter services. I understand your point of view on dealing with suspensions. But, keeping readers informed like "this line is operational" and somewhere else "these services are suspended" leads to misunderstanding, I would say. We can not ask from our readers to read every article. Articles should stand on their own. Better to say: yes, there are services. Or, no, there are none, I would say. And, more fundamental, if a railway line is operational is not to be found in sources, it's also an almost philosophical thing, if there are services provided should be easy to check. That's what is interesting to the reader also. So, hope you can find the status of the Bicol Commuter services (Naga - Sipocot). Kind regards, Abante86 (talk) 13:52, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
        • This from the PNR Official Website. As to its current status, that we don't know so until we find an authoritative source, it's best to leave it as operational, as we only go by WP:RS.--RioHondo (talk) 14:31, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
          • Sources should be provided that this service is running. And not: sources should be provided that it's not running. Don't turn things around, please. That's the way the burden of proof works. So, please provide a time schedule, or something comparable. As of now the Bicol Commuter services - according to our policy on sources - should not be mentioned. [7] PNR's own site seems more or less to confirm that no trains are running as of now. I hope you can agree with me that it is more important to know if trains are on track and moving passengers from A to B, than if a line is operational (whatever that may be). Kind regards, Abante86 (talk) 15:07, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
            • The website does say it is operational as of January 2014. Then write that whole phrase "as of January 2014". Wikipedia is not for proving a point, it is only for mirroring what is said in those RS. After all these years Jerome you don't understand how WP works. Report, cite, post. Then go on with your life and return when you see an update and then report cite and post again.--RioHondo (talk) 15:15, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
              • Come on, this is smear, and beyond any reason!! You're saying I am suckpuppeteer, RioHondo, suggesting clearly I am an incarnation of the most disturbing and banned Jeromesandilanico. Take it back, or proof it! Man, what a shameless and low behaviour!! That is so outrageous to do, just in a normal discussion. I'm really mad at you. Of course: untrue. So, here with your arguments on this false claim. I can only say: I am not even Pinoy, which would be clear, the way I write my english. Almost no pardons can be serious enough for shameless, and pointless offenses like this one. Man, what a disgrace you are. Abante86 (talk) 15:33, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

RioHondo, as you were referring to me as Jerome, you have been starting the thing known as name and shame. This was your choice and your responsibility. Please come up with evidence, or take it back. This was essentially an attempt to get me blocked indefinitely. Not something nice, huh? So, break the silence I would suggest... and apologies are still welcome... Abante86 (talk) 19:23, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

• People call it paranoia. But sorry, I have no time for a new user who registered barely 3 months ago and yet knows so much even a nobody like Jerome and his past activities here. Let's just say everything here is recorded. WP is all about editing and contributing articles, not investigating on users history, where there are tens of thousands, unless it is your history. Until then, make yourself useful.--RioHondo (talk) 00:39, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
  • If you have no time for nonsense, don't make false accusations. Look to yourself.. ;p You're responsible for your own shit, my friend. Abante86 (talk) 17:08, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

About Classical era

Classical Era has also used by Chinese , Mongolia And Japan even Cambodian History it self it Refers the perspective on the side of "the native citizens which lived on a country, the (Pre-Colonial) is a views on the the Colonialist perspective which is saying a resounding Philippines is only Discovered by the Colonialists but they have already cultures advance culture and tradition. so what should be to call it ? (Philipandrew2 (talk) 09:06, 7 October 2015 (UTC))

Heres my Example [[8]] is any country which is colonized called their eras of Perspective is "PRE- Spanish" "Pre- FRENCH?" or Pre- English? it is starting Early history to be in neutral perspective see Early history of Cambodia(Philipandrew2 (talk))

Just post your reply about this on my talk page (Philipandrew2 (talk) 09:21, 7 October 2015 (UTC))

Empty categories

Hello, RioHondo,
I'm in the process of tagging empty categories and some of them are your creations. Please only create categories if they will be used to categorize existing articles and not articles that you anticipate might exist at some point in the future.
Now, they are taking up editors' time, first one editor tagging them for deletion and then, in a few days, an admin must delete them. It's best to only create categories that can apply to articles at the time of creation. Thank you! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:58, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

• My apologies. But as I have been in the middle of a major re-organization and sorting of articles for our Category:First-level administrative country subdivisions (there's 81 provinces), i'm sure you know how doing the categorization rounds work, how you'd have to create uniform categories for each of the US 50 states so that your rounds go uninterrupted, little realizing there's not a lot for some states sometimes. But will see how to manage uniform categories better.--RioHondo (talk) 00:22, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Category:Tangalan, Aklan

There is no need to delete this category as there are pages that fit into this category. Please keep in mind that WP:3RR will be present if you revert my edit again with no discussion. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:36, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

• You know pretty well what overcategorization is. What is it about the municipality that needs a category aside from schools which are already in Category:Schools in Aklan? Please read WP:NON-DEFINING and WP:SMALLCAT which your edits to the articles VIOLATED. Thanks--RioHondo (talk) 14:38, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Category:Metro Manila city and municipal councillors

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Kinaray-a nomenclature

Hi, I'd like to maintain all mention of the Kinaray-a language as Kinaray-a due to its wider usage compared to Karay-a in recent discourse and seminal studies focused on the language. Kinaray-a is in fact the primary name used by Ethnologue and Glottolog where the naming on widespread information consumption was drawn from Diaz' (1962) pronominal system analysis and Zorc's (1977) early classification of Visayan languages (among the very first studies on the language). However, I am not suggesting the removal of all mention of Karay-a on relevant articles. Rather, they can be indicated alongside Kinaray-a while the latter should be the more prominent naming. Karay-a is also more conveniently used to refer to the people, instead. I hope you'd consider these points. --Pansitkanton (talk) 16:08, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

• Hi. Start an RM then to see if other editors agree.--RioHondo (talk) 16:09, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Sorry, but does this move require an RM request? Entering both Kinaray-a and Karay-a (with disambiguation) would nonetheless direct me to the language article. I see no problem here. My only point of contention is the naming on the Borneo-Philippine template which should pose no issue to the article itself. --Pansitkanton (talk)
    • We only link to the current article title in templates for bolding or to avoid redirects.--RioHondo (talk) 16:24, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
      • Okay, thanks. --Pansitkanton (talk) 17:07, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Name "Pasig" in the Philippines

Until I took a look at the "View history" section of the article entitled "Pasig", I did not know that there are barangays named Pasig in the following locations aside from Candaba, Pampanga.

• Balabac, Palawan
• Lambunao, Iloilo
• Sara, Iloilo

Thank you for giving such information.

Regards. Luigi.a.cruz (talk) 16:15, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

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Splitting Maharlika Highway from Pan-Philippine Highway

Hi,

I just noticed that Maharlika Highway does not actually follow some parts of the Pan-Philippine Highway's current route, such as Maharlika Highway following a different route, including part of MacArthur Highway, Rizal Avenue, MacArthur Bridge, part of Padre Burgos Avenue, Taft Avenue, Quirino Avenue, Diego Cera Avenue, most of Alabang-Zapote Road/Real Street, and Manila South Road/National Road/National Highway (sometimes signed as Maharlika Highway/Daang Maharlika), and "Maharlika Highway" must be split from that article. So, I will propose splitting Pan-Philippine Highway into a separate article. I am familiar about Maharlika Highway running as a separate route from the Pan-Philippine Highway/AH26, as they not always follow each other through Metro Manila, such as the case of Maharlika Highway following National Road/Manila South Road (MSR) south of Metro Manila. --TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 14:08, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Negros province

Hello, you seem to be involved with Filipino articles. Could you please consider creating a (stub) article for Negros (province), just as I did for Agusan (province) and Surigao (province). It would stop people from trying to redirect the red links in Template:Philippines former provinces and cities. I tried trying to find some info on this province in the Provinces of the Philippines article, but I can't find anything which would indicate that 'Negros' existed as a province. So hopefully you have some information which could get an article started. Thanks, --Midas02 (talk) 15:08, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

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David Suarez photo?

I notice you removed the supposed photo of David Suarez from his infobox. Then whose photo is it? Which was him on the original source? So I may put the right photo of him on the photo or at least rename the erroneously named image.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 07:15, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hey Hariboneagle927! No idea whose picture it was, but i know the Quezon Governor personally and this is how he looks like--> From Google. :) --RioHondo (talk) 07:21, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the swift reply. Heres the link to the original source along with other photos. The name of the governor was among those dropped in the source. The one on the supposed photo is likely to be this guy, Rene R. Escalante.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 07:44, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

UP alumni in specific campuses

Please look what were posted in their articles for some of them only get units or credits from a university of the phil campus and never finished the degree or transferred to another campus to finish a new course. please stick to their alma mater information. Thanks112.198.101.132 (talk) 06:11, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

112.198.101.132 Read: from the Wikipedia article on Alumnus: An alumnus can also be a former member, employee, contributor, or inmate, as well as a former student.[2][3]--RioHondo (talk) 06:13, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Possible Tag-teaming?

Hi RioHondo, I noticed the way Appable and Kazaro attitudes are most likely the same. But I don't want to judge a book by its cover first. Maybe there is a possible sockpuppeting going on in these 2 user accounts. It seems that Appable still supporting Kazaro's edits without any notice, and he/she told me that I must not bite the newcomers though Kazaro really did a bad thing. Can you please under investigate this user? I'm really creeping out on those 2 already, as they having a tag team or something. Hamham31Heke!KushKush! 08:09, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hi! I don't really pay much attention on whoever is behind spammy edits. I just WP:BRD and call them out on any edits they make that goes against WP policies. Be WP:BOLD and notify the admins if the problem persists thru ANI/SPI. For now, it's best to engage them in discussion and observe. There is so much more to Wikipedia than those lousy articles and lousy editors. :) Thanks for patrolling these pages tho. Keep it up.--RioHondo (talk) 08:41, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
• Btw, you are going to need to collect diffs if you decide to take them to SPI. So keep an eye on their edits as you build your case. Thanks--RioHondo (talk) 08:47, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

um...

Please stop fooling around theirs nothing to with long dead Account, i know you have a Deletionist Jihad we call but it was according on the article it self so as you just copy/pasting my work it meas its a Basic Copy edit work. ({ ᜉ᜔ ᜀ᜔| ໑ } P.A.-II (talk))

You have been told that the bibingka.com is an unreliable site, but you keep inserting it. This is a clear violation of WP:OR including your hoax images. In the first place, the oldest civilization is the Igorot society but it is still not how the Philippines was formed or established. Edit warriors and OR editors have no place in Wikipedia.--RioHondo (talk) 03:11, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

• Halatang di ka nagbabasa ... tingnan mo munang maige huwag mag delete ng kung ano ano basta basta

and btw your previous acts are fit on WP:No legal threats for your blocking attempt against me

• halata kase eh pasensya na para siyang Moro Moro

({ ᜉ᜔ ᜀ᜔| ໑ } P.A.-II (talk) 03:13, 15 July 2016 (UTC))

• • Sorry? The SPI has basis and you are free to contest it on the pertinent page. Good luck.--RioHondo (talk) 03:17, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
• Ok good luck ({ ᜉ᜔ ᜀ᜔| ໑ } P.A.-II (talk))

Philippines article

Ayoko ko sanang magsalita ng lengwaheng Filipino dito sa English Wikipedia (kahit papaano may Tagalog Wikipedia account naman ako), kaya lang the way na magsalita itong si Philipandrew2 sa iyo, eh akala parang alam nya ang kanyang ginagawa. Sa totoo lang yung pagsabi nya ng Mongols sa iyo ay parang hindi katanggap-tanggap. Pwede din yang I-report sa administrators ng English Wikipedia bilang WikiBullying iyan. Hindi lang iyon, yung pagsasalita nya sa wikang Ingles ay parang 47% o mas mababa pa dyan yung average. At isa pa, nakita ko nga yung reports nya sa sockpuppet investigations sa iyo. At na-obserbahan kodin na halatang sya din ang gumawa ng mga accounts na isinuplong nya dun, gayong wala naman siyang pinakita na ebidensya laban sa iyo. Matagal na kitang kilala RioHondo since 2011 (the year when I was a newbie to English Wikipedia), at alam kong hindi ganyan ang kilos mo, in fact ayos pa nga yang ginagawa mo sa kanya eh, para matauhan naman kahit minsan. Kung magsumbong sya sa SPI ngayon at ako nadamay dyan, Sorry na lang sya, dahil minsan na akong na-report dyan at hindi naman na napatunayan. By the way hindi ko muna binalik sa dating ayos at porma yung artikulo dahil nalabag na ang 3-reverts-rule dito, kung kailan pa naman naturingan na isang GOOD ARTICLE, saka lang nilagyan ng kung anu-ano yung pahina, nagmukha tuloy Pista ng Kalabaw yung artikulo natin dyan. Hamham31Heke!KushKush! 05:25, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

• More like Pista ng Barbero. Doon lang tayo sa tama, hindi tayo apektado kase mga walang mukha naman tayo dito. Trabaho lang walang personalan, pag may mali o imbento, hindi na pinapatagal yan. Pero dahil nagmamatigas, sa admin na ang bagsak nyan. Salamat.--RioHondo (talk) 05:47, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Tama ka dyan! Hamham31Heke!KushKush! 07:57, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

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Philipandrew2 SPI concern

Mukhang wala talagang kadala-dala itong si Philipandrew2 ano RioHondo? Sinabihan ko kaya si MSJapan (isa sa mga tagagamit dito sa WP na minsan kong nakontra sa ginawa nya sa artikulong DZXL, pero kahit papaano may punto pa din yung mga katwiran nya) na tingnan yung mga pinag-gagagawa nya dito sa artikulong Philippines. At sya na mismo nagsabi na yung ginawa nya ay isang battleground. Tingin ko kailangan talaga ng marami pang eksplanasyon dito para mapatunayan na itong si PA2 at PA (2013) ay talagang magkapareho. Hamham31Heke!KushKush! 01:34, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

You know, I'm suspecting the new user ThePhilipTimes. I do have a hunch that this is rather a sockpuppet of Philipandrew. But I guess that I will continue to monitor his/her contributions and his/her behavior here in English Wikipedia. Then if I'm right, I will re-investigate the said user to avoid any further suspicions. Thank you. Hamham31Heke!KushKush! 02:22, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi. I don't know about the new user, although from the looks of it he edits in completely different territory from the puppet which mostly edits in history-related articles. And I have already talked to the user now editing under a new handle, promised to change, but still keeping a close eye on his edits for any more OR violations. I only concern myself on particular edits and behavior before i file the necessary complaints for admin sanctions. You should too! Thanks!--RioHondo (talk) 08:59, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

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ph_stub clarification:

Lo siento senor, i want to make something to be clear about, As the time frame of Ph stub still colonial and Post colonial to contemporaries. What are the broad terms about contemporary history ? as i know contemporary history comes up from late 30's up to 1980's (in philippine history) so Does we are still living in contemporary era , and its different on modern times 21st century isn't in modern era ? (JournalmanManila (talk) 00:22, 3 October 2016 (UTC))

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Hey - thanks for the corrections to the page - I knew I'd miss something when I used a co stars page as the template but I did think I had caught all the references to being an actress!! However - it also says Philippines born Canadian - should that read Filipino Canadian? I wasn't sure when writing it. ☕ Antiqueight ^haver 02:07, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

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More images of several roads in Metro Manila

Hi, RioHondo. May I request for some more images of several (if not all) notable roads in Mtro Manila? I saw in the edit source of Juan Ruiz Street, and saw this in its infobox "|image=<exclamation point--Juan Ruiz Street.jpg-->" p I have some doubts over some images in Commons. Thanks :-) JWilz12345 (talk) 15:36, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

• Hi JWilz12345, I don't own a lot of photos of roads and like you, I just post what's available and taken by other users. The only photos I upload are ones that are missing, specially those of the new road projects. Cheers!--RioHondo (talk) 02:57, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Ah, ok. I now understand. Besides, I now use several Commons imgs of PHL roads for enwiki / tlwiki articles of PHL roads, alongside with your imgs. Its just that some of their filenames are long that made me a bit confused. I am still a newbie, I admit, and I admire you very much for your expertise on PHL roads. By the way, thanks for your reply! :) JWilz12345 (talk) 10:00, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

"Landmarks" sections, road junction lists, and route numbers on Philippine road and street articles

It looks like adding a "Landmarks" section makes articles of many Philippine road articles look like a traveller's guide, and I laid out two possible ways of handling landmarks without making it look like a guide (which violates WP:NOTGUIDE), such as:

1. Removing the section and merging them to the route description, and include some of them on the junction list, if a sign exists that the junction leads to a particular landmark.
2. Rewriting them to prose, if possible.

Many articles of roads and streets (aside from highways) in Metro Manila have "Landmarks" sections that hold be cleaned up using either method mentioned above. A few examples of Metro Manila road and street articles with a "Landmarks" section are Gil Puyat Avenue, Lawton Avenue, Quirino Avenue, Daang Hari Road, Makati Avenue, and Taft Avenue.

Also, regarding Philippine road junction lists, many of the streets in Manila, especially the major ones, lack road junction lists, and if one exists, seems to be not compliant with MOS:RJL. In the past, I added MOS:RJL-compliant lists on some Philippine road and street articles (like on Muntinlupa-Cavite Expressway, Dr. A. Santos Avenue, and Arnaiz Avenue) and standardized road junction lists on some articles (like on South Luzon Expressway, Daang Hari Road, and Manila-Cavite Expressway.) If you can make other Philippine road and street junction list MOS:RJL-compliant, you may do it, along with me.

And also, do not forget the route numbers being slowly added to many national roads in the Philippines, aside from segments of AH26 where they are already implemented since 2014. Some roads and streets in Metro Manila have correspending road numbers, assigned by the Department of Public Works and Highways, like the Alabang-Zapote Road which is numbered 411, and if any route number sign can be found on the named road , highway, or street mentioned, it can be added, along with a source from DPWH. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 02:16, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

• Hi TagaSanPedroAko, many of the road articles I created way back are indeed start class articles and would definitely need improvements. I'll try to incorporate them in the description, but if it's a really long list of links to landmarks, i will have to keep them in their section but rewrite them as prose. I appreciate your help in creating road junction lists as this is one area im still not familiar with. As for the DPWH route numbers, im trying to access their site posted by Sky Harbor at Talk:Pan-Philippine Highway but its no longer working. They definitely have to be mentioned in the articles.--RioHondo (talk) 02:52, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

The DPWH website has been redesigned (see [9]), so, the links (being the 2014 Road Atlas) provided for road numbers in Philippine national highway articles no longer works (dead link). And they also appear the same on the other Philippine road and street articles where I added or modified RJLs. Likely, if the databases are moved with the website remastered, I will change the citations currently used to link to the new pages. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 09:13, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Regarding highway types in Highways in the Philippines

I have concerns on the highway types at Highways in the Philippines, especially on "Provincial highways". Provincial highways are defined as provincially-maintained roads in the provinces according to Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH), and analyzing them, most of the highways listed are actually national highways on the DPWH designation. Many roads like MacArthur Highway, Manila East Road, Aguinaldo Highway, and others would be called national highways in local usage, aside from the DPWH definition. And with this concern, the article needs to have the "ProvinciaI highways" section moved to "National highways". TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 08:51, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

• Well, if we go by basic definitions, my understanding is that a provincial road or highway is one that was constructed and maintained by the provincial government in the province where it is located, a city or municipal road by the government of that city or municipality, and national road by the national executive govt. Im sure not all roads were funded by Malacañang/Regional DPWH. Some road projects are just too basic and minor that provincial/city/municipal governments fund them on their own using their own budget/IRA. And of course there's also those that were privately developed and maintained like Paseo de Roxas, or Commerce Avenue and other streets in Filinvest Alabang and Ayala Alabang, the streets in Nuvali or even those in your subdivision, etc. But anyway, i didnt make up that list nor maintain the article at all, do what you have to do. :)--RioHondo (talk) 19:16, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Now commons files

Pardon me for using Tagalog here…: I've moved the ff. img files (belonging to you) to commons yesterday (PHL time)

• File:Andrews Avenue and NAIA Expressway.jpg > Commons:File:Andrews Avenue and NAIA Expressway.jpg
• File:NAIA Expressway.jpg > Commons:File:NAIA Expressway.jpg
• File:NAIA Expressway Newport City.jpg > Commons:File:NAIA Expressway Newport City.jpg

Gusto ko po kasing gamitin ang mga nasabing imahe sa ilang Tagalog Wikipedia articles tulad ng tl:Abenida Andrews, tl:NAIA Expressway.jpg, at tl:Mga lansangan sa Pilipinas. Sa aking pagsusuri po ng mga imahe nyo ok naman po yun mga detalye at licensing ng mga imahe. Ok po ba sa inyo yun ginawa ko? Salamat po! :) JWilz12345 (talk) 10:35, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

• No worries. I don't do Tagalog wikipedia cos i just don't know if anyone ever reads there. Hehe! Re:My files, i normally upload them on local just to be safe cos i believe commons has restrictions regarding freedom of panorama, but if the admins accept the files then its all good. Salamat po!--RioHondo (talk) 10:42, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Philippines Barnstar of Merit for keeping watch over articles on Philippine pre-colonial history/protohistoriy topics

	Philippines Barnstar of Merit
	For keeping watch over articles on Philippine pre-colonial history/protohistoriy topics such as Laguna Copperplate Inscription and Namayan♦ Alternativity (talk) 04:32, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Street in Pandacan

Hi RioHondo. May I ask for your clarification? I'm very confused about the name of a street in Pandacan. Some sources say Padre Jacinto Zamora Street, others Tomas Claudio Street, and still others call it Paco-Santa Mesa Road. According to the article Quirino Avenue, "By the late 1920s, under the United States' Insular Government, the Paco-Santa Mesa Road was constructed which was later renamed Tomás Claudio Street…", but some maps still use the name Paco-Santa Mesa Road. The PocketEarth iOS app uses the name Padre Jacinto Zamora Street. AccuMap's CityAtlas (2006 edition) uses both Tomás Claudio Street and Paco-Santa Mesa Road, the former for the lower half of the road and the latter for the upper half of the road. I need your clarification on this. And also, is this road passes WP's criteria (esp. notability standards)? I'm planning to create a draft of this in the future. Thanks! :).JWilz12345 (talk) 10:43, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

• WP:GOFORIT :) Everyone is free to create or edit articles here, so long as they are backed up by reliable sources. If you find any information that you think might not be accurate, go for it and edit the text with your sources. My understanding is that Padre Jacinto Zamora is only the name of the bridge connecting Pandacan and Santa Mesa (the northern end of Paco–Santa Mesa Road). There is a Zamora Street in Pandacan though (if you check Google maps which is the only online maps i ever use, it's named W Zamora and E Zamora Streets with Quirino Avenue dividing them, but it's in the inner part of Pandacan and parallel to Tomas Claudio. The Tomas Claudio Street, will edit that bit shortly, after i found some needed clarification. Please do create articles based on new sources youve gathered, or you can also try to add more info to existing articles. Happy editing!--RioHondo (talk) 14:57, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Ok, RioHondo! :) However I have become preoccupied by school/college activities/homeworks recently, so I cannot create articles, do large edits, or find sources on net as of this moment. If you would create an article about Tomás Claudio Street, I would highly support it. BTW, if my understanding is correct, Tomas Claudio St is the Pandacan thoroughfare connecting Quirino Ave (C2) in Paco/Pandacan boundary and Calle Valenzuela/Valenzuela Street in Santa Mesa (hence also Paco-Santa Mesa Rd). Thanks again! :) JWilz12345 (talk) 16:00, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Yup, basically what's left of Tomas Claudio north of C-2.--RioHondo (talk) 16:20, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi RioHondo. I've created Tomas Claudio Street, with its info based on several articles like Quirino Avenue and Pandacan railway station. I hope that you will help improve/expand it. Thanks! :) JWilz12345 (talk) 11:18, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks on helping me improving the Davao City Expressway!

I really appreciated your help. Thank you so much.

Mark_Jhomel 07:31, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for fine-tuning some of the recent Philippine islands articles I have created, such as Baco Islands. I noticed that you're from the Philippines, and your assistance is greatly appreciated per your knowledge about these topics. North America1000 15:51, 9 May 2017 (UTC)