User talk:Rodhullandemu/Archive/20

Proposed new policy

As a recent contributor to Deaths in 2009, you may be able to help decide on a proposed new policy. It is proposed that:

A month should be deleted from the "Deaths in [CURRENT YEAR]" page ONE WEEK after the month ends.

Please opine at Talk:Deaths_in_2009#Proposed new policy. Don't just say

• Support.

or

• Oppose.

Also state your reasons and participate in the discussion. Michael Hardy (talk) 16:33, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikimedia UK Newsletter - February 2009 Issue

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Delivered by Mike Peel (talk) 20:01, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Your associatiosn with Tony Bennett.

Tony Bennett was an active lawyer in the 70s and early 80s in Liverpool as were you. Can you please explain this or should I contact someone else.....?

tsk tsk —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nbrado (talk • contribs) 20:21, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

If that is the case, I don't remember him and I only have this article watchlisted because I became aware that it was a potential trouble spot. Which firm did Bennett work for? I was employed by the Magistrates' Courts Committee at the time and committed then, as I am now, to impartiality. All I am pointing out is our policies which thus far, you don't seem to have taken on board. A good starting point is for you to read, and understand, our policy on biographies of living people. So important is it that it is not negotiable. If you want another Admin to look at this, please feel free to start a discussion at this board, but please, don't be over-optimistic. --Rodhullandemu 20:27, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Furthermore, the article does not say that Bennett has any legal qualifications and that between 1978 and 1985 he was working in Harlow. Either our article is incorrect or somebody is lying. Can you help me with that one? You are on thin ice, indeed. --Rodhullandemu 20:32, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Me thinks you doth protest too much...Christ even Jimmy Wales edits his own page on here. You have been sussed m8...well sussed....sending this to my mate at Watchdog... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.48.63 (talk) 20:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

If you are Nbrado, please login to re-sign your comment. Otherwise, what brought you here? Logging out to avoid scrutiny and to imply a false consensus is considered sockpuppetry, and blockable, as are threats. For the time being, I will assume good faith. I've never considered Watchdog to be a comedy programme, but if you want to attempt to turn it into one, you are welcome to try, but that ice is now melting under somebody's feet. --Rodhullandemu 20:38, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Jesus typical lawyer. Always looking out for each other. This "editor" has no business in Wikipedia. He is covering up for an ex work colleague. Shame. Shame. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.169.82.180 (talk) 15:15, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sam Kay. Having already done the same for Gail Trimble, I wasn't relishing the exact same "exists therefore is notable" discussion twice. While I'd count myself firmly on the "inclusionist" side of the artificial divide, I really don't understand the thinking of the "Wikipedia won't be complete until we have an entry on everyone in the phone book" brigade. – iridescent 23:59, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I think that at present, both articles must stand or fall together; whereas time may show that either person is notable, I don't think that time is now. It's something I see all the time, that someone involved in some news flurry automatically has an article created; sorry, but I don't buy that. WP:FAME should be publicised more widely, in my view. I don't think "Notability" was ever intended to be transient, which is the whole reasoning behind WP:BLP1E. Cheers. --Rodhullandemu 00:06, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I totally agree – which is why the comparisons the "keep" voters are making with minor footballers is false. The moment the footballer steps on the pitch, or the no-hoper athlete participates at the Olympics, they become part of history even if they never achieve anything after that; likewise, the MP who dies a week after being elected without ever speaking or voting, the author of a bestselling book who never writes another, or the one-hit-wonder singer. There are few other professions where that's the case, and "game show contestant" certainly isn't one of them. – iridescent 00:12, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

It's still all relative

And I'm not a troll, I'm a person with feelings that you have offended.

One thing is very clear... you are afraid to face the wrath you have awoken...If you ever learn any lessons, learn this... don't be so nasty to people you don't even know. One day, it may turn around and bite you in the ass.

W —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.3.90.137 (talk) 01:26, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I assume the "W" is for "wanker", because so far, you haven't given me any evidence to the contrary. --Rodhullandemu 01:31, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

".. that anyone can edit" does not include (a) people who won't understand our editing policies (b) trolls who shift IP addresses (c) people who won't discuss and defend their edits on article talk pages or (d) some editors from Manchester. Tough bun. --Rodhullandemu 01:38, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll forget you within minutes; and, er deleting MY comments from MY talkpage isn't on. You're an idiot. --Rodhullandemu 01:46, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I was working on it

Missed by one edit...would have figured it out :-)  Frank  |  talk  01:51, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. We can live without this. --Rodhullandemu 01:54, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

True enough. Cheers!  Frank  |  talk  01:58, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Deaths in 2009

Why can't Steven Seagal die from anal cancer? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.91.88.135 (talk) 18:34, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks mate! Thats answer mine question, well part of it, now i understand that Steven seagal can't die from anal cancer. I wont do any other modification on Jimbo walles temple, but.. can Barry Manilow die from anal cancer? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.91.88.135 (talk) 18:39, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

No, not for at least a month, you won't. --Rodhullandemu 18:45, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Flubbed my edit summary

It's the second section ([1]) where he's identified as being UKIP's solicitor, which would substantiate the article's claim as being at least technically correct. --Dynaflow babble 19:08, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Except The Law Society do not list him as such; I've seen him variously described as "former" and "retired", but there's nothing in his qualifications, or elsewhere, to show that he ever qualified or practised as a solicitor. Many of the propositions I've seen simply are not supported by their sources, and they are being culled. --Rodhullandemu 19:13, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I wonder if you could say, "identified himself as X's solicitor," instead. --Dynaflow babble 19:32, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I suppose that would be neutral enough, he's clearly told the BBC so, and I imagine he's aware it's an offence to hold oneself out to be a solicitor when one isn't. --Rodhullandemu 19:36, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

• I've since found out (although not from a citable source) that he qualified in 1995 (which kind of proves the lie by the various trolls in the above thread) and was reprimanded by the SRA in 2003, and I can only assume that he hasn't renewed his practising certificate following that. --Rodhullandemu 19:04, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Project

Hey sorry about earlier. My project actually called for me to edit a page and find out how fast it was changed. I'm sorry for any inconvenience, but it simply seemed easier to do it in a very blatant way in order for it to be changed with minimal effort. Again, sorry for the trouble, it won't happen again, and thank you for being understanding.Sisnei (talk) 00:09, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

As a professional researcher myself, I wouldn't give much, or any, credence to such a small sample. There is no way of knowing whether it represents typical behaviour, because you have (as far as I know)nothing against which to compare it. If this is a serious exercise, some of the discussion at, and links from Reliability of Wikipedia might be of use to you. --Rodhullandemu 00:17, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

James Stewart (actor)

I suspect that Harv is back using his drawer of socks. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 15:31, 4 March 2009 (UTC).

Yup, I see him (and block his IP) on a daily basis. --Rodhullandemu 15:39, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

James Stewart was a racist and his wikipedia page should mention this important point. John Wayne's article does. (92.12.57.85 (talk) 15:40, 4 March 2009 (UTC))

No. You have the worst reputation of any editor I've encountered here for using dubious sources, and also for block evasion. That's why you are de facto banned, because we can't trust any of your edits, regardless of the truth. The sooner you realise this, and just go away, the better it will be all round. --Rodhullandemu 15:51, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject for Wiltshire

Hi, Saw you message on WP:England. I set up the Somerset WikiProject for Somerset & have recently help Dorset set up theirs. I've been discussing with User:Mark Wheaver the value of a Wiltshire wikiproject & he might be persuaded if you added a comment at User talk:Mark Wheaver#Wiltshire.— Rod ^talk 18:50, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Rod, I've dropped him a note. --Rodhullandemu 19:01, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Sheldon Manor & Pevsner

Hi Just saw your comment re Sheldon Manor. Have your looked at Images of England from English Heritage? most of the descriptions thereare direct copies of Pevsner books - for Sheldon Manor see: http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/Details/Default.aspx?id=317319 — Rod ^talk 19:12, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

That's brilliant, thanks, a lot of information in one place, and it saves me a trip to town! --Rodhullandemu 19:15, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Wiltshire

Hi, thanks for getting in touch. I've answered on my page and the one you linked to. Free Pevsner quote for you!Major_Clanger (talk) 21:15, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

The Aviator

Please see the following page, The Aviator. I have been observing some vandalism of a section of the article, but now it's advanced instead of through other means to a legal threat. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:21, 5 March 2009 (UTC).

Thanks, Bill. Indef-blocked until the threat is withdrawn. We can't put up with stuff like that. --Rodhullandemu 21:29, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

WTF?

"Reverted good faith edits by John; No consensus. Find one, or start an WP:RFC, otherwise, stop editing while logged out, and stop disrupting Wikipedia to prove a point.."

There is a consensus. You took part in it. It hasn't changed. I edited once while logged out by mistake. Your edit summary is there for ever. Please try to assume good faith of others. Please follow our rules on consensus. Thanks a lot. --John (talk) 01:07, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

This Is It (Michael Jackson concerts)

Do you have any idea whether this should be in British or American format? American singer, but a British venue (the majority of people watching will be British I imagine). Cheers. — R² 14:15, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Either, I would think, but having been started in one variant, it should stick to it. So I suppose it's up to initial consensus of those editing. --Rodhullandemu 14:22, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Cheers. Having written so many article on Jackson, I'm better writing in US format. — R² 14:32, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the WP:AWB, now I just have to learn how to use it.:) Any tips? Sticky Parkin 02:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Oooh err Mrs:) Well I'll read the manual first as you suggest:) Sticky Parkin 12:31, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Appropriateness for becoming an admin

(I'm sorry for burdening this on you, your name was simply top of the list for experienced-editors-who-have-helped-me-in-the-past.) You see, I've got a bit of a problem. Recently, half of me has been longing to help Wikipedia in areas which require you to be an admin - deleting pages, dealing with vandals, hell, even fulfilling edit requests. The other half knows that I'm not the perfect candidate. So please, if you've got a minute, would you mind putting my mind at rest: if I filed a self-nom RfA tomorrow, would I be considered? Even generic responses / relevant links would be appreciated. Cheers! - Jarry1250 ^{(t, c)} 18:07, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

I appreciate your time. I'll now go away, read everything about that admins and policy that I can find on Wikipedia, and then ponder the matter for a while (as it's not a decision to be taken lightly). Thanks again, - Jarry1250 ^{(t, c)} 18:49, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

I have now pondered and come to the conclusion that this is something that I do want to go through with, though time is not of the essence. What are the next steps to be taken? - Jarry1250 ^{(t, c)} 20:41, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Email duly enabled (I can't remember why I turned it off TBH). - Jarry1250 ^{(t, c)} 17:35, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! I could not have hoped for a more comprehensive, fair and informed response. I'm sure glad your name was top of the list! I will go work of some of the more admin-y area, hopefully find a co-nom and let you know. - Jarry1250 ^{(t, c)} 18:32, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Invincible (Michael Jackson album)

Hi, Rod, could I ask your your assistance here. An ip is causing a bit of bother. Even though the content in question was sourced in the article, he insisted that the lead be sourced too, even though there is no need (per WP:LEAD). So I sourced the lead, couldn't be bothered to argue about it. When I sourced it, using a page number from a book (the most respected book on Michael Jackson), he took issue with the the formatting method (page number in the notes, book details in reference section). He removed my source and reinserted the fact tag, even though the source is reliable and formatted correctly. This is an ip who reverts first and asks questions later, and I feel as though I've gone out of my way to accommodate his demands (I hate sourcing leads). I'm also getting a bit of trouble on my talk page. Help appreciated. — R² 23:40, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

The lead, as far as I'm concerned, should set out stuff that is reliably-sourced in the article; the detail belongs there. Meanwhile, I'll take a close look at this tomorrow, as I'm v.tired right now. --Rodhullandemu 00:10, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Cheers, I'm not one for sourcing leads, it's entirely unnecessary. But removing sourced material because it's not formatted how you like it, well that's simply not going to stick with me, my formatting has never been criticized before, and it's the method I used for Michael Jackson and Thriller (album). — R² 00:32, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh brother. — R² 00:46, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar!

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DYK for Sheldon Manor

On March 10, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sheldon Manor, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 15:07, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello.

This is hightek669.

Did you just message me?

I'm sorry, but I am new to this-- the editing stuff, that is, so please bare w/ me.

I also did NOT know you could message people on here. lol

-Tracy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hightek669 (talk • contribs) 19:50, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

That's what User talk pages are for. --Rodhullandemu 19:51, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

What's a user talk page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hightek669 (talk • contribs) 19:54, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

This is. Where I posted messages to you is yours.

• Did you just delete my entry? The John Lennon website entry I made? I don't see it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hightek669 (talk • contribs) 19:56, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes. It was a duplication of the entry in the infobox. If you go the John Lenon and clock on the "History" tab, you'll see my edits, and explanations. --Rodhullandemu 20:01, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Nice page/ site!

I checked out your Wikipedia user page and read your "About Me." Even had a peep at the photo of you in the Smoky Mountains.

=)

I must say, nice site you got there! You appear VERY intelligent! And a retired lawyer?! Wow! The world needs more people like you, for respect and look up to people who have been to college and took their work seriously (i.e. doctors, lawyers, college professors, etc.). ^_^

I am a 27-year-old female living in South Carolina. 100% Polish. Was born in Poland and moved here (to the U.S.) at age 7.

Anyway, thank you for notifying me to let me know about the Lennon link.

Have a great day!

- Tracy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hightek669 (talk • contribs) 20:18, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Glad you like it. Drop me a line if you need any help editing. Na zdrowie! --Rodhullandemu 20:26, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

FYI.

You misspelled "Lennon" wrong! You spelled his last name with only two (2) "n's" instead of three (3). haha! Perhaps "I" should go and edit section "Hello." for you! haha! Have a good one and thank you for your help!

Future help.

I will most likely need help in the future again, so, yes, it will probably be you that I notify! =)

Anyway, I am off now! lol (I keep procrastinating, huh?) As I've said before, you've been a big help & I learned something new today.

Take care.

Buh-bye!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hightek669 (talk • contribs) 20:39, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Fruitynut block

Although I agree with you in blocking Fruitynut, I think indef is a bit harsh, maybe give him a 31hr block and then see what happens. Griffinofwales (talk) 23:40, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

My problem is that one editor has, in identical terms, been adding that stuff to Jimbo's page for the past few days from various IP addresses. That makes him a sockpuppeting block-evader, for one thing content apart. My feeling is that this guy needs to understand that his editing is unacceptable and I prefer to see what he has to say in an unblock request. However, I'll refactor the block and see if the experience of losing his account has the desired effect. Next time will be indef, however. --Rodhullandemu 23:56, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Agree. Griffinofwales (talk) 03:44, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

RFA

• Hi, sorry that this is somewhat out of the blue but I have been looking for an admin that is both vaguely my age and from roughly the same part of the world as myself and your username name and the fact that you say you qualified in the 70s seemed just right. Also we have had at least some communication in the past. The question I have is, would you be prepared to cast an eye over my Wikipedia contributions etc etc and see what you think. I'm asking this as I had a self nom RFA back in Dec 08 as I wanted to test the waters and I seemed to be doing OK until User:Balloonman shot me down in flames. I understood where he was coming from but I thought it was all a bit extreme. I have no intention of self nominating again but I would like to be an admin one day as I feel that 50 something Brits are somewhat under represented in this area and I feel that I have something to offer. If you don't feel able then that's absolutely no problem and sorry to have bothered you.--Paste _{Let’s have a chat.} 16:42, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem, I'll take an overview and let you know ASAP. --Rodhullandemu 16:45, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

• Many thanks for your quick and very useful reply. I don't intend to run at the moment but may well do in the near future.--Paste _{Let’s have a chat.} 21:21, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Please feel free to contact me when you do. Cheers. --Rodhullandemu 21:24, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

rollback rights

One of the many things I do is fight vandalism, and I realized that fighting vandalism would be so much faster if I used Huggle. However, Huggle is only available to rollbackers. I think I know enough now about Wikipedia policy to be granted rollback rights. If you feel I need more experience I will understand. However, I assure you I will not abuse the tools given to me. Griffinofwales (talk) 03:17, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

If you have even more time to spare, could you please consider whether or not to grant me rollback rights also. If the answer is no, no problem and no explanation required.--Goodmorningworld (talk) 16:11, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Both  Done --Rodhullandemu 17:49, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

talkback

{{talkback}}

Sorry

I was in Recent Changes and I thought it was vandalism. I probably jumped on it by accident. Anyway, sorry about that. § The Black Void § ^Talk _Contribs 21:10, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

I love the Barnstar! The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 06:19, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

It's well-deserved, and I dish them out very rarely. --Rodhullandemu 13:10, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

So many crowns...its hard for people to keep track of of when puns are involved. :) The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 00:58, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

AWB

Hey. :) You seem to be very familiar with AWB. Thus I thought I may ask you: I have just added myself to the bot section of the CheckPage, as I have to remove a template from a huge amount of pages. However, there is no tab "bots" when I open AWB. Can you help me? :) Thanks, — Aitias // discussion 13:03, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I don't know much about the techie side of it, but another use has had problems recently. You could try looking at the conversation in the Bots section of the Talk page, or contact User:Reedy direct. Sorry I can't help. --Rodhullandemu 13:09, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Arabic Wikipedia

Dear Rodhullandemu,

I don't know if you still remember when user:Stayfi (a blocked user here and in arabic wikipedia) put some allegations in the article about arabic wikipedia. Anyway, it seems that he returned with a new user name user:Retrospectiva 3 and now he puts his allegations in the talk page in purpose of hurting the reputation of arabic wikipedia. I don't know the policy here but does he has the right to do this in the talk page? --Osm agha (talk) 22:59, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

No, he doesn't, since he is a blocked user, and sockpuppeting is not permitted. Leave it with me. --Rodhullandemu 23:12, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your cooperation --Osm agha (talk) 10:52, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Joseph Neeld

On March 15, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Joseph Neeld, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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WTF?

Calm - down - pal, I'm just stating some facts Fry2000 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fry2000 (talk • contribs) 01:19, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Jayne Mansfield: The Rumor

Okay, no problem. I came across this interesting episode of her life while researching for Jayne Mansfield in popular culture (I cited two books though, both of reputable origin). Therefore, in my understanding, the information is quite right, though the sources cited in this case may not entirely be so. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 04:08, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

In the main article, both cited sources were actually the same, and in any case state this to have been a possible publicity stunt. I think that makes the material barely worth mentioning, and only as such, and again, only if properly sourced. If it is being used to attack Mansfield, which is HarveyCarter's modus operandi, then it becomes tendentious and as such, should be avoided. --Rodhullandemu 13:07, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

User talk:75.105.128.36

I think this IP warrants a block. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 05:20, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

It's a dynamic IP used by multiple editors; this is just kiddy vandalism and seems to have stopped for now, so there's no good reason to block at the moment, but I will keep an eye on it. --Rodhullandemu 13:03, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Marlon Brando

Please check the recent edit history here. FWiW, Harv's sock drawer? Bzuk (talk) 15:04, 15 March 2009 (UTC).

Yup, and blocked. I'll watchlist the article. --Rodhullandemu 16:20, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

The Aviator again

...and another sock attack, same MO as before. FWiW, I still don't even understand what the issue is here, as all the statements are referenced and sourced. Bzuk (talk) 15:06, 15 March 2009 (UTC).

I'd just drop them a {{uw-delete1}} and escalate. If this continues, I'l protect the article to get them to the Talk page. --Rodhullandemu 16:22, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Seems to have been done already. --Rodhullandemu 16:36, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Mentor

You should be my mentor. You seem cool. The SOAD Fan (talk) 19:06, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Gabriel Goldney, 1st Baronet

On March 15, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gabriel Goldney, 1st Baronet, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Congratulations! PeterSymonds (talk) 20:33, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

user:Cretino

Maybe your reason for blocking has been wrong, but you heart is on right place. Because Italian wiki is not having explanation of this word look italian name translation of article Le Dîner de cons on italian wiki. Italian cretino is english Cretin--Rjecina (talk) 06:07, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

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Two Pints of Larger and a Packet of Crisps

I have gave you the web adress for the show and i feel you were quite abrupt before i didn't mean to offend i was just trying to make it correct. (Tommyvilla47 (talk) 22:06, 17 March 2009 (UTC))

You'll see that I am quite an experienced editor here, although I don't claim infallibility; however, to have one's edit deleted twice, without any explanation, could be taken as an insult. I didn't see the web address for the show, but in any event, we use the {{cite episode}} template to indicate the reliable source for the article. --Rodhullandemu 22:22, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

New Bathroom

I think I do need a new bathroom, actually. Thanks!

Spaghetti died in my bathroom :( 80.44.254.185 (talk) 14:23, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, best of luck with that; you'll probably be able to pick one up quite cheaply, due to the credit crunch. --Rodhullandemu 14:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Liam Neeson

Can you protect this too please? He's the husband of Natasha Richardson. You may need to remove the death stuff, I keep getting edit conflicts. O Fenian (talk) 00:07, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Ignore, I see it's confirmed now. O Fenian (talk) 00:09, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Natasha Richardson

Hi, the BBC has now confirmed the death of Natasha Richardson, the link is http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7949195.stm - Kneale (talk) 00:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Another source is here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29733775/?gt1=43001 . Aiuw 00:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• Unprotected back to semi. --Rodhullandemu 00:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

of speedy deletion and faulty capitalisation....

I managed to get the item deleted, thanks. An admin drove by shortly after the original post and speedy deleted it. I was having a bad day that day, managed to create the same page twice, with different capitalisation in the titles.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

What you can do then is to make the incorrect version a redirect to the correct one, by changing the entire content to #REDIRECT [[Your article name]]. As long as it's a plausible typo, it won't matter, as redirects don't use up much in the way of resources. --Rodhullandemu 00:45, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

If (when...it's bound to be when) I achieve an effect like that again, I'll bear that in mind. Thanks for the advice.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 01:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment

Why should I learn French because that person writes French on the ENGLISH wikipedia? I would consider what that person did as rude. Secondly that link was working perfectly last week. MegX (talk) 01:19, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

You don't need to learn French, the summary should have been sufficiently comprehensible to anyone with basic intelligence; and the link isn't working now. WP:BURDEN applies. --Rodhullandemu 01:24, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

No personal attacks or I'll lodge a complaint. You have a lot of deleting to do. Many charts on wikipedia do NOT have any references. MegX (talk) 01:30, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I see no personal attack, and I didn't delete it. Meanwhile, the answer surely is to set up a taskforce as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Record Charts? And it's policy that unsourced and unverified information, if challenged, may be deleted. It was challenged, and deleted. Not an issue. --Rodhullandemu 01:36, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

The editor gave noone a chance to find a substitute link, which is what you're *meant* to do when you do come across a dead link. Wikipedia guideline: "Do not simply remove dead links; they often contain valuable information." WP:DEADLINK Charts don't disappear because one website is down. Here is the Google archive which clearly showed that did exist, it was not made up [2] MegX (talk) 01:44, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

The editor is obviously inexperienced and possibly unaware of what *should* be done with a dead link. But you replaced the deleted content, and the link, without apparently making any enquiry into the reason behind the deletion. Did it not raise a red flag in your mind that something might need looking at? And sure, it's in the archive NOW. But when it was deleted, if failed verifiability. I don't think an inexperienced editor can be criticised for not knowing how to look up an archive; due diligence and education prevent good-faith editors from being driven away from here, even if what they do is correct, but lacking in expertise. --Rodhullandemu 01:56, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

And I have made the editor aware of that. I don't add "made up" charts to wikipedia. I have no control over external links either. These article are taking me a long time to upgrade to GA standard because of the research I put in to get it right in the first place. All the charts I add are referenced. Next time this happens, I'm simply going to revert and add {{Dead link}} next to the reference, if the other editor hadn't done so already. Give editors a chance to at least fix the problem. MegX (talk) 02:06, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• That would be fine. And {{tl|dead link}} is a little more efficient than "<nowiki>{{Dead link}}</nowiki>". Cheers. --Rodhullandemu 02:13, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

*LOL* :D okies.. MegX (talk) 02:17, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I just rechecked that link again. The chart appears to be back up again. [3]. MegX (talk) 02:35, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

That's good. I'd forgotten how much crap music there was around in 1972. I mean, Chicory Tip?! --Rodhullandemu 02:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Sadly, at this stage it would be much more easier herding cats than setting up a taskforce with Wikipedia:WikiProject Record Charts. Very few people actually bother organising let alone reading anything said there. MegX (talk) 08:14, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Look who's back...

87.36.25.21... aka 79.97.111.90 ~~ [ジャム]^[t - c] 18:55, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I had noticed, but some of his edits seemed to be useful. Perhaps a rangeblock? --Rodhullandemu 19:03, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

As far as I'm concerned, none of the edits were constructive (I reverted several of them). Yes, I think another rangeblock might be a good idea (wasn't there one previously, or has that now expired?) ~~ [ジャム]^[t - c] 09:59, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Natasha

I have a favourite practice in these sorts of cases of just making sure everything that gets put in is true to the source(s)...a week later I winnow out the irrelevancies. Ambulance events would seem to fall into the 'irrelevancies' category. It would be a pleasure to have you join me in the subsequent cleanup. :-) Risker (talk) 22:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I can't wait.... --Rodhullandemu 22:35, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Bottrell

Could you check this out. The editor in question could be the very well known hit maker himself. — R² 23:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

If it is him, editing his own article isn't necessarily a conflict of interest, but he should be aware of WP:RS and WP:V. I'd drop him a {{welcome}} and advise him that any info he adds should be properly sourced. I'll keep an eye on the article, however. --Rodhullandemu 23:37, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I just didn't want to get on the wrong side of a multi-millionaire lol. :) Agree, so long as what he adds is sourced and neutral, he has every right to edit. — R² 23:41, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

email

Hi, regarding removal of AWB privledges, what email address can I use?

Just look on the left of this page or my userpage and click on "email this user"; it's anonymous as far as you're concerned, and I don't need to know. Thanks. --Rodhullandemu 00:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

What's your problem?

"In contemporary usage, Anglo-Saxon is sometimes used to denote modern peoples or groups considered largely descended from the English, as in White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, and is sometimes used by non-English speakers, especially the French, to denote the Anglosphere." - From Wikipedia article on Anglo-Saxons —Preceding unsigned comment added by DmarshallPhD (talk • contribs) 15:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Seriously, what's your deal? You seem like a cool guy. Richard Branson is not a WASP? Wuuuuhhhh? Don't go into the technicalities, because there's a double standard and you know it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DmarshallPhD (talk • contribs) 15:57, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Paradoxically, we do not consider ourselves a reliable source. There is a full comment at Talk:Richard Branson. --Rodhullandemu 16:04, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

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Re:Infobox monastery

Does it work now? Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 21:50, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Fine. Thanks very much! --Rodhullandemu 21:54, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Revolver

Since after all this painstaking effort no one even mentioned "Dr. Robert", I would say that there is something lacking. HM211980 (talk) 23:35, 21 March 2009 (UTC)HM211980

Like most Beatles' songs, it has its own article, where the detail belongs, as long as it's properly sourced. --Rodhullandemu 23:37, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

All of the songs on Rubber Soul have their own articles, but the rest of them are still mentioned in the album's article. It's not as if everything in any of these articles are hard facts. That's why they are not held out as credible sources. HM211980 (talk) 02:08, 22 March 2009 (UTC)HM211980

That is not an excuse for adding your own unsourced assessment. Doing so is a breach of verifiability policy and also original research, both of which are ultimately blockable as disruption. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not carte blanche for adding anything you like to an article, in fact quite the opposite. --Rodhullandemu 13:39, 22 March 2009 (UTC)