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Hi There, I have removed the new additions to the Integrative Improvement article based on the following reasons:

  1. I feel that we may have a disambiguation issue here: "Disambiguation in Wikipedia is the process of resolving the conflicts that arise when a single term is ambiguous, and so may refer to more than one topic which Wikipedia covers. For example, the word "Mercury" can refer to an element, a planet, a Roman god, and many other things."
  2. I feel that II in the context of the current article (business excellence relating to end-to-end supply chain continuous improvement) and II in the context of Integrative Thinking as on your website (i.e. II as a Mind Science) are quite different topics. I believe that both contexts have a place on Wikipedia, but I don't believe that the two contexts should be merged into one article.
  3. The current article carries specific content such as history, See Also, Stages of maturity etc. which relates specifically to II in the context of Business Excellence/CI of the supply chain. By changing the introduction and the defination to a context of Mind Science makes the remaining content seem to not 'fit' or relate back to the definition/introduction. For instance, if we leave the definition of II as a Mind Science, the 5 Stages of Maturity (and it's content) seems completely unrelated and this will confuse readers.

May I suggest the following as a way forward: Using the example above of disambiguation for the word 'Mercury', the way around this is that there are separate articles for 'Mercury (element)', 'Mercury (planet)', 'Mercury (mythology)'. Perhaps we can resolve this if we create a completely separate article called 'Integrative Improvement (Mind Science)'? In this way, you will be able to all additional relevant context to Integrative Improvement as a Mind Science. Once your article is created, I will investigate the disambiguation process in having a 'landing page' created so that if users type "Integrative Improvement" into the search button on Wikipedia, they should come to a type of a landing page where they would see both articles, and then they can make the choice depending on which one they're looking for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deborah new (talkcontribs) 11:58, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Dear Editor,

Thank you for your suggestion. May I offer these comments?

1 I doubt there is a disambiguation issue here as the original article labelled "Integrative Improvement" is about Integrative Performance Improvement(IPI) which I would regard as one of the tools which could be used in helping to achieve Integrative Improvement(II)in businesses. II is a broader concept applicable to all sorts of organisations and development generally not just business. Also, II in the original article is offered as another term for what the article is really about - Integrative Performance Improvement.

2 II as I use the term describes a process which was arrived at by applying Integrative Thinking which is a field of Applied Mind Science but II is not an aspect of Mind Science.

3 I suggest we overcome your objections by relabelling the present article "Integrative Performance Improvement"(IPI) and delete any use of the term Integrative Improvement within the article whilst leaving the references to Integrative Improvement and Integrative Thinking in Further Reading. SOARA (talk) 03:57, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

PS I could then produce a full article on Integrative Improvement. SOARA (talk) 04:00, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you agreed to do that, it would be straightforward to move the existing article to Integrative Performance Improvement (which is at present a red link). That would leave a redirect page at the existing Integrative Improvement article, which could be edited into a new article. Then a hat-note at the top of the IPI article could point to the new one. But you should really take this discussion to Talk:Integrative Improvement first, in case there are other editors who have a view on the matter.
I am not arguing for or against the move: I have no knowledge of the subject. I am just telling you how to go about it if there is consensus to do it. --ColinFine (talk) 18:32, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies - I have been away. Please would you give me a week of 2's grace to mull all of this over before we discuss further? Best regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deborah new (talkcontribs) 18:27, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Noted. Would like to move this forward soon. SOARA (talk) 20:28, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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