User talk:Samu204c

Welcome

Hello, Samu204c, and welcome to the English-language Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions so far; I do appreciate them, and I hope you like it here! Here are a few important links for newcomers to this version of the encyclopedia, which I think will explain more about our standards here:

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Again, welcome! -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:32, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Sia (musician)

Dear Samu, Please join the Talk page at Sia (musician) if you want to discuss what you are trying to do. The references you added are mostly poor-quality references (and inadequately cited, lacking author names, dates, and publisher names). Acid jazz is already linked earlier in the article. The lyrics (or theme) for each album don't belong in this section. They belong in the descriptions of the albums above. -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:05, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the comments, but please post to Sia's Talk page, not to mine, so that everyone can see what's going on. Note, however, that the 130 million figure is not encyclopedic, unless there is a high-quality music source, like Rolling Stone, that says it is particularly significant. You will see that no WP:Featured articles about singers attempt to add up singles sales to make a total, because it is not encyclopedic information. Longer is not better. Please see WP:NOT. -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:30, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

@Ssilvers: Yes, I think it's true, but look that. On that page the references are similar. However, indeed, the "certified" references are flanked by others such as Rolling Stones and other similar sources, so you're right. However, I would like to point out that, according to Wiki-Ita guidelines, that information is considered valid and for this reason it is on Wiki-Ita. --Samu204c (talk) 23:43, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

I understand. I want to make sure, however, that all the new information that gets added to the Sia article is of the highest quality, concise, well-written, well-referenced and well-organized. I also agree with you that we could probably add some discussion of Sia as a lyricist, but we need to cite recognized, respected critics who discuss it. Also, note that En Wikipedia already has articles about each of Sia's albums, and the more detailed information about those should go in the articles about the specific albums -- only the most important summary information should go in Sia's "main" article. See what I mean? All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:53, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

I replied to your message on my talk page. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:41, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

The article already says: For live performances of songs from 1000 Forms of Fear, Sia chose not to show her face, either facing away from audiences or hiding it behind oversized platinum blonde wigs.... Sia explained to Kristen Wiig in an interview in Interview magazine that she decided to conceal her face to avoid a celebrity lifestyle and maintain some privacy: "I'm trying to have some control over my image. And I'm allowed to maintain some modicum of privacy. But also I would like not to be picked apart or for people to observe when I put on ten pounds or take off ten pounds or I have a hair extension out of place or my fake tan is botched. Most people don't have to be under that pressure, and I'd like to be one of them."[76] Is there anything else that is very important that you think is needed, and do you have WP:RSs for the info? How do you know that any of her property is still being displayed at the R&R museum, and even if it is, why is that important to her life or career? -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:56, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

@Ssilvers: I reply you here. I know what sources are reliable, because on this topic the guidelines are the same between Wiki-It and Wiki-Eng. The fact that there are objects of the singer in the museum is affirmed by the museum itself and by some Australian national newspapers. The same for the university.

These are very important information, because they testify to how much her fame has increased over time. They are important goals for her career --Samu204c (talk) 23:19, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

The source you cite is a 2016 source. How do you know that the materials are still on display. As I said before, even if they are, I do not accept that an exhibit at the R&R Hall of Fame is of encyclopedic importance. That would be a matter for WP:CONSENSUS, but I would be inclined to vote against it, unless you have a source that explains its importance. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:34, 2 May 2018 (UTC)