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Hello, Sarah Reveillard, and Welcome to Wikipedia!

Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask at the help desk, or place {{Help me}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Also, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to help you get started. Happy editing! KylieTastic (talk) 15:26, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Didomi (March 12)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Drmies was:
This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:
Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
Doesn't appear to be notable, notability not proven by secondary sources.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Drmies (talk) 15:01, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello, Sarah Reveillard! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Drmies (talk) 15:01, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome![edit]

Hello, Sarah Reveillard, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or another editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

One rule we do have in connection with conflicts of interest is that accounts used by more than one person will unfortunately be blocked from editing. Wikipedia generally does not allow editors to have usernames which imply that the account belongs to a company or corporation. If you have a username like this, you should request a change of username or create a new account. (A name that identifies the user as an individual within a given organization may be OK.)

In addition, if you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for any contribution you make, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation to comply with our terms of use and our policy on paid editing.

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{Help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Drmies (talk) 15:02, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Drmies, yes please, may I ask you to proofread it because, indeed I am an employee of Didomi.
Kind Regards,
Sarah Sarah Reveillard (talk) 15:07, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sarah, the template wasn't really about proofreading (and I don't do that for free), it was about your conflict of interest. PLEASE actually read the message, follow the links, and declare your COI properly. (It doesn't take much Googling to verify that you indeed have one.) Thank you. Drmies (talk) 15:10, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, confirming successful submission to declare the COI and looking forward to the next step. Sarah Reveillard (talk) 15:27, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sarah: the next step was to improve the draft, not simply to resubmit it. I'm sorry, but User:KylieTastic and I have seen so many of these promotional drafts that I'm sure both of us wonder why companies who make so much money think that this is something you can write up on a Saturday afternoon and have up and running the same day--we're not LinkedIn. To put it another way, if such PR persons would have a bit more knowledge of what Wikipedia is, and that knowledge shouldn't be hard to come by (it's an encyclopedia), they'd save us all a bunch of time. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 15:39, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies, I did not mean to offend you in any way and find your comments rather offensive to be honest. I am doing my best as a new user to be get to know such a complicated platform and spent hours trying to be a good participants by finding all the sources. Your judgement of me working at the weekend, when I do it on my own prerogative, is using a form of violent communication which is highly discouraging from participating in this community. I would like to partner with more experienced users like Kylie and yourself to improve it. However, I am kindly asking you to keep your personal criticism about whether this company makes a lot of money or not, for yourself. The point I am trying to make, is I am doing it in good faith of contributing to the community. If neither of you are willing to help, then fine. As a first time user of this platform, it is rather disappointing to be shut down so quickly. (~~~~) Sarah Reveillard (talk) 15:51, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sarah, you are here to get your company listed, not to improve our beautiful project. If you had spent even ten minutes trying to figure out what we do, you wouldn't have written what you did: you're obviously smart and experienced enough to read through a website and its guidelines and edit accordingly. Calling my comments "violent communication" is ... well it's insulting. Good luck with the product placement. Drmies (talk) 16:01, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sarah, I appreciate that it is the first time you try to publish something on Wikipedia. You think that you did a decent job at writing the draft. You might recognize the need for some light copy-editing from in-house editors, but that wouldn’t be too much of a bother, would it? I am also sure that you genuinely think your draft would be a net positive addition to Wikipedia.
Unfortunately, good intentions are not sufficient. For you, it’s the first time trying your hand at that Wikipedia stuff, but for reviewers, it was Tuesday. People trying to get an article published vastly outnumber people reviewing those articles, and more importantly the work of editing is much, much larger than one expects.
One particular misconception is that the hard part in getting something on Wikipedia is writing a draft. It is not. The hard part is finding proper sources, and writing the draft so that it adequately references those sources. Trying to slap sources on an already-written article is know as writing the article backwards and has an extremely low success rate (I would say less than 1%). When you submit a poorly-sourced draft, you feel you have made 95% of the work and whoever declines the draft without taking corrective action is unreasonable, but in fact you have made about 0% of useful work (every sentence written before sources are found needs to be either discarded or painfully cited to the appropriate source).
Furthermore, as a paid editor, you will be subject to social shunning. It’s nothing personal: a significant fraction of (volunteer) editors have decided, on principle, that they will not help paid editors in any way, shape or form. Those editors view paid editing as fundamentally opposed to the principles of Wikipedia and do not want to subsidize it. They want paid editing banned or at the very least severely restricted.
(I do not agree with this view. I think paid editing will happen regardless and banning it will just drive it underground, so I strive to treat every new editor without much regard to their paid editing status. But even so, your request for copyediting comes across as extremely entitled, for the reasons outlined in my second paragraph.) TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 11:07, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Didomi (March 12)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was:
This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:
Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
Sources are mostly primary, PR or Wikipedia:Run-of-the-mill
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
KylieTastic (talk) 15:26, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Story on "getting" a WP-article[edit]

This one [1] I like. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:19, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Native American"[edit]

Just so you know, you probably meant "native English speaker" when you wrote a native american copywriter. Native American has a specific meaning. TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 10:21, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies yes, Native English US speaker as in Europe, we learn English GB. I hope it makes sense. Sarah Reveillard (talk) 13:22, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, this in English Wikipedia, rather than American English Wikipedia so the variety of English used depends first on if a subject is tied to a variety and secondly on the creator themselves or the original established variety of the article. So in this case as the company is French there is no obvious default (MOS:TIES) so you are perfectly correct to write in British English which should then stick per MOS:RETAIN. See Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#National_varieties_of_English for the full details. Also while on the subject of languages, each language Wikipedia has different notability requirements and COI guidelines etc, so you may be able to start fr:Didomi. However, they probably have similar polices so it may be the same issues, but thought I would point out as most new editors don't realise we all work independently. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 15:41, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Didomi[edit]

Information icon Hello, Sarah Reveillard. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Didomi, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 23:00, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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