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Please comment on Talk:Bay Area Rapid Transit

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Well enough covered already, and I agree with the consensus. --Slashme (talk) 08:36, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

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Wiki Help

I apologize, I really don't know what I'm doing on here yet. I was just testing things out and I keep getting myself deleted. :( Is this where I am supposed to leave messages? Krystyana at Scilligence (talk) 20:48, 7 September 2017 (UTC)Krystyana at Scilligence

Hi Krystyana, you found the right place!
There are three main ways to contact a user on this site:
  • You can link to their name, so for example you can alert me by typing [[User:Slashme]] into a comment on a talk page.
  • You can leave a message on their talk page, like you did now.
  • You can use the "email this user" link in the left-hand menu if for some reason you don't think they'll get messages on Wikipedia or if you want to communicate privately.
So, thanks for making contact. I know that Wikipedia can be a bit confusing, so I'd like to help you make some edits that actually stick around and don't get deleted. If you tell me about a topic that you find interesting, I can point you at an article in that general area which needs help. Then when you make the edit, let me know and I'll check it out and give you feedback. Or otherwise, if you have a non work-related topic that you feel is badly represented or not represented at all on Wikipedia, I can help you to draft an article about it.
Another option is to create a diagram or illustration for an article that needs more than just words. I've done quite a bit of that, but I'm just an amateur, unlike you :-] --Slashme (talk) 21:01, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of article content an act of vandalism?

You replaced the distinct content of the article and redirected it to Cannabis in South Africa because you believed it to be a wrongful fork. Please note that the Daggafarianism article is a focused on the evolution of the contemporary cannabis culture of South Africa in relation to the history of cannabis laws and racism in South Africa. You had not acted within the guidelines of Wikipedia when you performed this action. You made a claim and gave no notice before removing content. However you are also part of the discussion to remove the Afrikaans version. Why delete the English version if you feel that you acted appropriately why not also remove the Afrikaans version. As a seasoned editor and Founder of the Afrikaans Wikipedia you know beter and should know its not ok to remove content especially where it is a distinct article not in violation of fork guidelines. If you wanted to contend the notability of a neologism then the appropriate action is to nominate the page for deletion. I cannot let this action go without review by a steward who does not have a conflict of interest eg. already participating in nominations for deletion of the same article in another language.

Please find this as my notice of intent to file a complaint. I welcome your reply but feel an impasse has been reached.

Regards, Mickey ☠ Dangerez 00:16, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Mickey,
You might have mistaken me for someone else. I'm not a founder of the Afrikaans Wikipedia. I've only recently started regularly editing there.
I still think that the content that you have developed under the Daggafari article could be dealt with in a section of the Cannabis in South Africa article. You say that a deletion discussion would be more suitable than simply creating a redirect, so I'll do that and link you in.
You say that you would like to file a complaint against me. There are a number of levels of dispute resolution open to you. I would welcome a third opinion or a discussion at the DRN, so please do so if you think it would be valuable. --Slashme (talk) 06:52, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Hi Mickey, Here is the message I sent to you on FB when you were having the same problem on the Afrikaans Wikipedia, the contents of which I feel apply here too. Ok...so just a quick scan over the lead and a few things come to mind immediately. Your sources are all either self published or from FB and don't constitute reliable sources. While you may have 35 references, there are only 14 available to most people. As far as the article itself goes, a lot of its content could be in the "Dagga" article rather as the content has little to do with the actual term "daggafarian/daggafari" and more to do with the history of weed in SA. In fact, very little below the lead makes any mention of the term or its coining. I would be inclined to rather create an article called "Die geskiedenus van Dagga in SA". That way it would be more encyclopedic which would satisfy the editors who are calling you out the notability issue (this would be my main issue too). I'm not sure the term is notable enough (yet) to warrant inclusion into an encyclopedia (as a stand-alone article). You need several reliable sources that demonstrate its prolific use in daily culture and I'm not sure you will. There are other MOS (manual of style issues, but those can be resolved. Much like grammar and punctuation). It can be tough getting started on Wikipedia especially with a topic like dagga, maybe more so on the Afrikaans one. While I fully support legalisation in SA, the quality of Wikipedia standards for articles remains paramount to me and unfortunately would support this articles deletion as it stands. Robvanvee 09:04, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Please review the article it focuses on the evolution of the contemporary cannabis culture of South Africa in relation to the history of dagga laws and racism. You guys keep confusing the guidelines for Facebook references. It doens't state that Facebook references are NEVER allowed, because there are valid reason to include Facebook references where it doesn't refer to scientific facts or self-research neither of which is implied by the references. Although I have a COI doesn't mean I cannot contribute to the article. The self published sources are the main source that describe the definition of the word. How can only 14 references be available to most? All references exist and are available to all. If you support the deletion please raise your nomination on the nomination for delete. That the history content is unrelated is just your opinion when it is the history, the law and racism that shapes the current dagga culture. And this history is required to understand this evolution. As the creator of the Dagga Couple pages you are suppose to know how many times they have used this word. Please provide the references that are available. This is valid POV fork and shouldn't be lumped in the atrociously structured article Cannabis in South Africa which seems to be a list of cannabis related topics in South Africa and not a proper article. The coining of the term is addressed in the introduction that leads up to the revolution and evolution of the dagga culture that starts with the history. Its not completed but although it also stands a full article in it's current state. A term doesn't have to be used daily to prove notable. Notability doesn't expire. Sorry but it seems your opinion is not really based on Wikipedia guidelines. Further the use of self published sources as used in the article do not violate the Wikipedia guidelines, "Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves"--Mickey ☠ Dangerez 12:39, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
My bad, " founder member and former director of Wikimedia South Africa" - Slashme
--Mickey ☠ Dangerez 12:45, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

I think the best place for the discussion of the merits of the article is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daggafari. --Slashme (talk) 18:32, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

RfC for af.wiki

Hi, User:K175 has blocked me and left me without the ability to edit my own talkpage on af.wiki. Please notify the community about the RfC I've opened on meta. Thank you. --Nazeer (talk) 19:49, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

OK, I've put a note at the geselshoekie. --Slashme (talk) 19:55, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

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Please comment on Talk:Plimpton 322

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A barnstar for you!

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Found a post you made on Reddit - what you do there is awesome, and I bet Commons is super appreciative, but on behalf of the English Wikipedia - thank you! -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 16:39, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! Nice to be see a response here :-D --Slashme (talk) 17:52, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Seats per row in parliament diagrams

Hey! Like pretty much all Wikipedian politics geeks, I'm a big fan of your parliament diagram maker. Of course, it's possible to alter the number of seats on each wing row when creating a Westminster-style diagram, but (as far as I know) not on the arch-style diagram. However, recently I saw a user who had altered the number of rows in a 100-seat arch diagram, from the automatic 6, to 5. It would be useful to know how to do that, but since I haven't seen any buttons or switches on the site, I thought I'd just have to ask the creator himself. Is it a built-in feature that I just haven't found, or do you think the user I mentioned did it manually? Thank you! :) Μαρκος Δ 22:48, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Μαρκος Δ: I stared out by doing some trigonometry, and I calculated beforehand how many rows I need to fit in a given number of seats - so 1 row can take up to 3 seats; two rows up to 15; 3 up to 33; etc. I see that in my code, I had written:
   Each row can contain pi/(2asin(2/(3n+4i-2))) spots, where n is the number of rows and i is the number of the current row.
Anyway, I then just look up how many seats I have to lay out, and run the equations to calculate their locations. It's as simple as that. If I have less spots than I have room for in the diagram (e.g. I have 30 spots and there is room for 33 in a 3-row diagram), I space them out more widely.
My calculation says that 5 rows can take 95 seats, so if someone really did lay out 100 seats in a 5-row diagram, I'm guessing that they probably put 5 seats at the end by hand? --Slashme (talk) 23:07, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply! Here is the diagram in question, by the way. The user who did it has now told me that he did it manually (by first making a 129-seat diagram, then removing the sixth and outermost row, leaving only 100 from the five inner ones). I think both his and my reasoning for trying to change the number of rows is related to that wider spacing you mentioned; in some diagrams (mostly those with few total seats), the gaps become very wide. A good example of that would be a 35-seat diagram. While a 33-seat one, on the other hand, is much smoother-looking and less scattered, in a sense. But of course, as you explained with your formula, there is after all a good and logical reason for wider spacing in some diagrams. Thanks again :) Μαρκος Δ 13:34, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Thanks for getting me back in to Wikipedia! I saw your r/askreddit reply and decided to become active on Wikipedia again. Thanks again! Llacb47 (talk) 19:23, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
@Llacb47: Wow, that's awesome!! Thank you for this message - it means more to me than any Reddit gold ever could. If anyone is mean to you on here, or you feel like Wikipedia becomes boring, or you don't know what to edit, drop me a note and I'll give you a boost. --Slashme (talk) 19:34, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

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Please comment on Talk:Meg Patterson

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Convert legend template to parliament diagram

Is it possible somehow to use the legend template you got out of "tools.wmflabs.org/parliamentdiagram" and convert it to a parliament diagram. I ask this because i made pretty large parliament diagram some time ago but it didn't work, the archdiagram didn't generate/there was some error but i could copy the legend template. And i am now wondering if there is some way to take the legend template and convert into a diagram.

So for example if you have "legend|#AD4308|Party 1: 20 seats" "legend|#F13D4C|Party 2: 80 seats"(replace " with the curly brackets) could you somehow make this into a parliament diagram without putting in all the values manually?


Carlpm01 (talk) 12:51, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Carlpm01, I could write a quick-and-dirty interface that allows that. To generate a diagram, at the moment, it sends a POST request to the python script with the form "Party 1, 20, #AD4308; Party 2, 80, #F13D4C". Basically, I could create a page which contains a Javascript script that grabs the template code and calls the diagram script with the corresponding request string. I just have to think through the security implications of allowing a user to provide an arbitrary string to my python script. I mean, I think the user could already do that with a specially crafted website, but it's been a while since I looked at the code. I'll give this some thought over the weekend and let you know if I decide to implement it. --Slashme (talk) 17:05, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

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Please comment on Talk:Plasma (physics)

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Sitting this one out for now. --Slashme (talk) 23:35, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

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Please comment on Talk:Plimpton 322

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Sitting this one out - outside my area of expertise. --Slashme (talk) 16:57, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

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Article on Afrikaans wiki

Hey Slashme. Having noticed you are on the afrikaans wiki, I'm curious to know why after so many "delete" nominations the daggafarianisme article is still there? The nomination process was started in August and seems to have stagnated. Your thoughts? Robvanvee 11:41, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

I'm not an admin there, so I can't answer for why they never closed the discussion and deleted the page. I'm also surprised that it's still up. I'd recommend asking that question at af:Wikipedia:Geselshoekie. --Slashme (talk) 12:06, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
Shot! Robvanvee 14:23, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Red panda

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Skipping this one because my POV is already well represented there. --Slashme (talk) 07:25, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

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Please comment on Talk:?Oumuamua

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Not responding to this one: outside my area of expertise and well enough covered by others. --Slashme (talk) 23:25, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Independent (United States)

For the "US-style diagram" at https://tools.wmflabs.org/parliamentdiagram/USinputform.html, can you please change the Independent color to #FDFD7F so it matches Template:Independent (United States)/meta/color?—GoldRingChip 18:00, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

OK, will fix it this afternoon. --Slashme (talk) 08:27, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
GoldRingChip, it should be the right colour now. --Slashme (talk) 23:17, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, it is. But the label on the tools page is still gray; there's no harm in it, but that's all.—GoldRingChip 02:42, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
I thought of changing the label, but I decided it would be hard to read. --Slashme (talk) 13:33, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
OK, good point.—GoldRingChip 02:33, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

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Please comment on Talk:BMW

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Skipping this one - have no clue. --Slashme (talk) 13:28, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

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