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My response

Steve, just because I'm putting too many sources in doesn't mean I claimed they were already there. It was more than clear to me my claims were supported, I don't know why it wasn't to you. Hopefully now you have no choice but to accept the truth. Goodbye.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.76.67.208 (talk) 15:57, 19 September 2016‎ UTC

When you say "Yes it is in several sources and it's also already confirmed on their pages", this appears to imply you thought they were already there and properly citing the contentious content. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 16:03, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Attacks? Good luck with that as everything I have said so far is true. I'm not sorry you're taking my contributions to heart. Also, I don't consider edit warring to be normal work. But who knows what you consider normal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.76.67.208 (talk) 16:27, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

See my replies on your IP talk page. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 16:30, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

No one who is innocent uses all caps, FYI. You know I only added what I knew what was already backed up and true. That was made more than clear, several times. Your bitterness shined through in your nonsense, dishonest edits. I don't know what planet you're on (not an attack, I really don't know), but that sir is edit warring. Since you still seem to think this is all about you, I'm sorry you couldn't handle the truth. I wish you all the best. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.76.67.208 (talk) 16:38, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

The personal attacks are apparently continuing. Oh well. Nothing I have done has been dishonest or "nonsense". I have merely been requesting that potentially contentious content be cited, and your response has been 1) denial; 2) saying things are cited when they're not; 3) adding sometimes useless cites; 4) engaging in personal attacks; 5) engaging in disruptive revenge edits on UofLouisville-related articles. Instead, you could have been finding cites and adding them, like anyone would do, or just leaving the tags there for someone else to find the cites. Usually by now, I will have reported your activity as an ongoing incident. Please explain why I should not do that. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 16:42, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry but you're the one in denial. All I am doing is responding as short as possible to your inquries and you're accusing me of attacking you with even lengthier responses. And if any of that was true then you would be editing those articles now, right Steve? Not to mention, it's odd you want me to explain to you why you shouldn't report me. I don't know why you would report me but if I truly felt someone needed to be reported, I wouldn't ask them first why I should or should not. That being said, you're not getting any more responses out of me. Good luck with everything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.76.67.208 (talk) 17:04, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

I have done nothing that is outside the normal work of improving articles. However, the numbered list above are things I can prove about your activity. You have not been working in the usual wiki way and have been very personal about it. You could have kept calm and added all the necessary cites in 1/3 of the time that you have blown up to such large proportions, or as I said already, just leave the tags, and you or someone else could deal with them in the near future. The bottom line is that I am going to continue to check changes made to these or any articles because that is what a Wikipedian does. Basically, either ensure that potentially contentious content is cited, or let someone else do it. We all have no choice but to follow the policies and guidelines of this site, which, again include WP:NPA, which you have violated frequently. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 17:14, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-38

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  • The new version of MediaWiki will hopefully be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 September. It will be on all wikis from 22 September (calendar). This is the version that was meant to go out last week.

Meetings

Future changes

  • Wikidata will start working on adding support for Wiktionary. The Wikidata development team is now taking one last look at the development plan. [3]

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22:09, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

To Wikipedia's Kentucky Oracle

Would you know anything about Springfield say for Frank Wall's article? Shipwreck Kelly and Ben Cregor are some others which I struggled with a bit more. Cake (talk) 22:54, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

@MisterCake: I'm afraid I don't understand what is being asked of me here. Sorry for the slow response. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 11:38, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Sorry for being cryptic! Just been having trouble on biography articles for folks from Springfield, and was curious if you knew anything to help. Cake (talk) 12:35, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Are you okay?

You seem very defensive over something you know nothing about, especially after you falsely tried to get me booted. Why does it hurt you so much that I'm right?Jenimcphersoncow (talk) 00:20, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

I have no words. I'll let the hard reliable sources about General Electric's headquarters and the evidence of your sockpuppetry speak for itself. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 09:33, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Ali–Frazier III

Greetings. New discussion started here. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 21:45, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Regarding my revision

Hi! My apologies for not formatting the typo which I added correctly.

The reason I added two is that I did not know how to make it case insensitive, and the reason I only added the past tense form is that I forgot the other tenses of the word.

I also didn’t realize that I was supposed to add new typos at the top, so my apologies for that.

Thanks for fixing that.
―PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 16:05, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

No problem. I guess "disintegrating" and "disintegration" could be covered as well but I was just trying to address the immediate needs. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 16:09, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
I think that that’d be a good idea, so I added them. Hopefully, I did it correctly this time.
―PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 16:13, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Never mind; I did.
―PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 16:18, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Well, I did that.  :) Anyway, I realize this is the "Anyone can edit" Wikipedia, but this particular page requires knowledge about Regular expressions to be able to make effective changes that don't cause AWB users unnecessary problems. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 16:25, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
I do have knowledge about RegEx, but this is the first time I’ve added custom typos.
―PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 16:27, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Counterculture of the 1960s and Timeline of 1960s counterculture

Hey Stevie, could you please review the most recent edits on these pages? There is a "new" editor making changes w/o any rationale and I'm not sure what to make of them. Thanks! Learner001 (talk) 13:26, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

@Learner001: It looks like technical and MOS changes to me. Maybe they could have explained their edits better, but I don't see anything particularly alarming. If there is any particular change you disagree with, perhaps bring it up on the article's talk page. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 23:16, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. I think the unregistered editor was probably blocked, and came in under a new IP address. Seems to have far too much technical WP knowledge for a "new" editor. Learner001 (talk) 14:52, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-39

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Recent changes

  • If your wiki wants numerical sorting in categories you can request it after a community decision. See how to request it. [4]
  • When you edit text and mention a new username they are notified if you add your signature. Before this only happened under certain conditions. [5]
  • Users are notified if they are mentioned in a section where you add your own signature even if you edit more than one section. Before, users were not notified if you edited more than one section in one edit. [6]

Problems

Changes this week

  • There will be no new MediaWiki version this week. [9]

Meetings

Future changes

  • Abandoned tools on Tool Labs could be taken over by other developers. There is a new discussion on Meta about this. It will be discussed until 12 October and then voted on. [10]

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18:07, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Help needed with Zeek article

I have been following your edits as of late as a token of excellence I would to ask for your assistance improving Zeek Wikipedia article. I will be honest and come forward that I have a stated COI with the company but I feel the information presented in the article is notable. Any input from you regarding this matter would be amazing. Thanks, Eddard 'Ned' Stark (talk) 20:38, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Upscale and GE sock

Stevie, somewhere in the back of my mind, I just recalled a similar user from several years ago. I can't recall exactly when or on what article, but it was on several department store type articles. You might check the talk pages and article history of those type articles, and see if you can find anything. It probably doesn't matter at this point, since this user has been blocked for sockpuppetry already, but it might be enlightening as to their tactics. - BilCat (talk) 23:48, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

I think Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ChildofMidnight is the user I was thinking of. From looking over the archive, I don't think it the same user as our current sockmaster. It is interesting reading, however. :) - BilCat (talk) 23:55, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Jamie Eads

for the record, I did not create my own page. I only want to make sure it survives the scrutiny of Wiki's rules. Any help would be gladly appreciated. John Wayne Gacy and Ted Budy have pages. Why not a drummer from KY? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Speady1 (talk • contribs) 03:18, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

@Speady1: Well, you did create the article (see the last entry, which is the creation edit). For the moment, we'll ignore that this is a conflict of interest. See WP:N about whether any particular subject can have an article in the Wikipedia. In particular, to start, is there any significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources? I don't think it will survive WP:AFD in its current state. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 12:57, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Your note

Stevie, thanks for your note about the possible sock. I will leave it for now, but if you see continuing reverts at Nordstrom or elsewhere, let me know. I can do more semiprotections if it turns out to be necessary. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 18:16, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Eminem

This question is not about the article per say, but more about the Wikipedia rule about minors and their full name that I'm not aware of. I would like to read up on it. Also how did you get that the page notice to be on your talk page. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 01:49, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

On the first request, see Wikipedia:Minors and persons judged incompetent#Editing on any other person. My interpretation is that minors incidental to a notable person should not be identified very deeply, as in providing a complete name, even if it comes from a reliable source. The link I provided is not a direct guideline, but it does represent "the norm" on the Wikipedia, and I suspect other editors will agree with keeping deep details about incidental minors out of the article.
On the second request, see Wikipedia:Editnotice#User and user talk. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 04:02, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-40

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  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 October. It will be on all wikis from 6 October (calendar).

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  • Tidy will be replaced. Instead the HTML 5 parsing algorithm will be used to clean up bad HTML in wikitext. This would cause problems on a number of wikis. They need to be fixed first. [11]
  • <slippymap> will not work on Wikivoyage after 24 October. You should use <mapframe> instead. If you need help to fix this before 24 October you should ask for it as soon as possible. [12]

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21:30, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

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Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 4 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • Tidy will be replaced. Instead the HTML 5 parsing algorithm will be used to clean up bad HTML in wikitext. This would cause problems on a number of wikis. They need to be fixed first. [13]
  • <slippymap> will not work on Wikivoyage after 24 October. You should use <mapframe> instead. If you need help to fix this before 24 October you should ask for it as soon as possible. [14]

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21:30, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

RfC for page patroller qualifications

Following up from the consensus reached here, the community will now establish the user right criteria. You may wish to participate in this discussion. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:55, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Cary Grant

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Tech News: 2016-41

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Recent changes

  • You can show Special:RecentChanges on a page by using {{Special:RecentChanges}}. You can now use tag filters by using {{Special:RecentChanges/tagfilter=tagname}}. [15]
  • The notification badge is coloured if you have notifications. When you check the notification the badge will now turn grey on all wikis instead of just the local one. [16]
  • Colours used in the Wikimedia wikis' main interface changed slightly. This is to make them easier to see for readers and editors with reduced eyesight. [17]

Changes this week

  • Hidden HTML comments will be more visible when you edit with the visual editor. <!-- You write hidden HTML comments like this. --> [18]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 October. It will be on all wikis from 13 October (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

  • Language converter syntax will soon no longer work inside external links. Wikitext like http://-{zh-cn:foo.com; zh-hk:bar.com; zh-tw:baz.com}- must be replaced. You will have to write -{zh-cn: http://foo.com ; zh-hk: http://bar.com ; zh-tw:http://baz.com }- instead. This only affects languages with Language Converter enabled. Examples of such languages are Chinese and Serbian. [19]

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20:30, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Ruger Mini-14

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Tech News: 2016-42

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  • Some users got a warning about Wikipedia's security certificate last week. This was because of a problem GlobalSign had. This has now been fixed. Only a small number of users got the warning. [20]
  • Editors couldn't edit semi-protected pages in the Wikipedia app for Android. This has now been fixed in the beta version. [21]

Changes this week

  • There will be no new MediaWiki version this week. [22]

Future changes

  • The Editing Department are working on a new wikitext editor. It will have tools that are in the visual editor but not in the wikitext editor today. You can read more about this. This is an early plan and things can change. The old wikitext editor will still exist.

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16:43, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Assistance with review and assessment processes

You recently reviewed Opposition Party (Northern U.S.). I have been editing for a number of years, but I do not adequately understand the review and assessment processes. Sadly, I also have been unable to find an overview of how one goes about initiating and completing that process. Thank you so much for reviewing the article. Is the review process complete? What must one do to have the article assessed? I'd appreciate any guidance you can give me.InformationvsInjustice (talk) 23:17, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

@InformationvsInjustice:, sorry for the delay in answering. I'm not sure I can answer this comprehensively in one reply, so instead I will point you to resources for you to consume, then please feel free to ask me any questions about them. The first resource is about patrolling new pages: Wikipedia:New pages patrol/patrolled pages. The second resource is a FAQ that explains article assessment: Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Assessment FAQ
Basically, what I did was mark the new article as patrolled because it is "appropriate for Wikipedia". As for assessment, you or anyone can add it to WikiProjects, then set the class parameters to assess it. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 21:51, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
@Stevietheman:, thanks man. I don't know if it is just me, or if there's a gap here. I'll let you know how things stand after reading the pages.InformationvsInjustice (talk) 23:12, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Dale Jr fix

fixed dale jr. by adding reference. Caryeastwood — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caryeastwood (talk • contribs) 12:31, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

You've got mail!

Hello, StefenTower. Please check your email; you've got mail! The subject is Wikipedia e-mail.
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You've been Approved for access to Newspapers.com Please follow the directions in the e-mail so I can activate your account. Happy Editing! --Cameron11598 (Talk) 01:39, 19 October 2016 (UTC) --Cameron11598 (Talk) 01:39, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:2014 Oso mudslide

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Journalism, John Harwood

Hi, I was taken to task for removing the word "journalist" from John Harwood's bio. Having studied journalism and written for a daily newspaper, "The Savannah Morning News" in the 1970s, I was confident I knew the meaning of "journalist" and the responsibilities and limitations of that occupation. When I was a writer a journalist simply reported facts and didn't draw conclusions. And, being a long-term consumer of John Harwood's morning commentaries on CNBC, I was confident that Harwood was not a journalist even before the released wWikileaks emails detailed his working relationship with the DNC's John Podesta. However, after Stevietheman restored the word "journalist" to Harwood's bio this morning, I suspected that the meaning of "journalist" had changed. And, after looking at several current definitions of "journalist", it appears that objectivity is no longer required, if it ever was. So, if the distinction has been removed between news and editorial content then, yes, Harwood could be called a "journalist." Nevertheless, the public's need to know of John Harwood's working relationship with a major political party is important to understanding his body of work and the place in history he has earned. Some accommodation must be made to include characterizations of his contacts with high-ranking politicos and links to same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kroebling (talk • contribs) 13:12, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

On the Wikipedia, we are supposed to avoid changing articles, especially biographies of living persons, due to our personal opinions. Please read WP:NPOV and WP:BLP for further info. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 13:36, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-43

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Problems

  • The abuse filters had a problem and caught too many edits. This has now been fixed. [23]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from October 25. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from October 26. It will be on all wikis from October 27 (calendar).
  • The "Search" text in the search box will show the name of the project. For example, on Wikipedia it will say "Search Wikipedia". [24]
  • About a dozen wikis now have numerical sorting in categories. If your wiki wants numerical sorting in categories you can ask for it. [25]
  • Some wikis that want numerical sorting in categories can also ask to use UCA to sort categories. The biggest difference is that characters with diacritics will be sorted together. For example, for most languages Ä will be sorted with A instead of at the end of the alphabet. This is not true for languages that have Ä as a character in their alphabet. Wikis that already use UCA are listed on Meta. Languages that can use UCA are listed on MediaWiki.org. You can test it.

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17:39, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:2016 India–Pakistan military confrontation

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Slums

If you can do like whatever you say then please do it. In all Indian cities page, the slum section is added because it is a major problem and not a minor one. Half of the population in delhi lives in slums and so that it should be addressed and this is not a minor problem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ning Shen zhu (talk • contribs) 11:23, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

@Ning Shen zhu: I just looked at the 10 largest cities in India, and only a couple of them besides Delhi have "Slums" sections, and none of them are given the top-level section heading that yours in Delhi has. Also, none of them have the same opinionated language. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 11:47, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:2014 Oso mudslide

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Tech News: 2016-44

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Recent changes

  • Now you can include Commons video films with subtitles in your wiki language. Before you could see translated videos on file page at Commons only. [26]
  • Search now has an updated preference tab to configure the search completion suggester. [27]
  • The visual editor is now available on all wikis using only one language script. [28]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from November 1st. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from November 2nd. It will be on all wikis from November 3rd (calendar).
  • Now you can use autocomplete for page names in "Preview page with this template (what's this?)" field when editing templates. [29]
  • Special:NewPages can now be filtered by page size. [30]

Future changes

  • New MediaWiki deployments will be now based on MediaWiki 1.29. [31]

Miscellaneous

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16:18, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

New page reviewer granted

Hello Stevietheman. Your account has been added to the "New page reviewers" user group, allowing you to review new pages and mark them as patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or in some cases, tag them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the New Pages Feed. New page reviewing is a vital function for policing the quality of the encylopedia, if you have not already done so, you must read the new tutorial at New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the various deletion criteria.

  • Be nice to new users - they are often not aware of doing anything wrong.
  • You will frequently be asked by users to explain why their page is being deleted - be formal and polite in your approach to them too, even if they are not.
  • Don't review a page if you are not sure what to do. Just leave it for another reviewer.
  • Remember that quality is quintessential to good patrolling. Take your time to patrol each article, there is no rush. Use the message feature and offer basic advice.

The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In case of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, the right can be revoked at any time by an administrator. — MusikAnimal talk 23:32, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Falls City Brewing Co.

Hello,

I am the Marketing Director for Falls City Brewing Co. in Louisville, KY. The other day, I made some changes to the information on our page and uploaded our logo.

Last night I got a message saying it had all been removed.

Can you help me figure out how to make those changes again and have them ok'd this time around?

Thanks,

Brian U'Sellis - Falls City Beer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brianusellis (talk • contribs) 13:56, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

@Brianusellis: First, if you are associated with the subject, it's best to let other editors who are not associated make the edits per WP:COI. You can ask for changes or additions on the article's talk page: Talk:Falls City Brewing Company. Second, we editors are not allowed to infringe the copyright of anyone, in this case, Falls City Brewing Company, so we shouldn't be copying their website's content word-for-word into our articles. See WP:COPYVIO. If you make a request on the article's talk page about content that should go there, I will try to attend to it. Alternatively, you can ask any unassociated editor to improve the article, as long as they don't violate any company's copyrighted content. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 20:29, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Template talk:Periodic table

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Tech News: 2016-45

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Recent changes

  • Victoria Coleman is the new Chief technology officer for the Wikimedia Foundation. [32]
  • First release candidate for MediaWiki 1.28 is now available. [33]
  • .gitreview for MediaWiki branches and extensions switched from targeting a specific branch to using track=1. [34]
  • Section numbers in Table of Contents boxes will use grey to improve readability. [35]

Changes this week

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 8 November 2016 at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topics this week are Image Thumbnail API and allow SVG files uploaded on MediaWiki to have XHTML namespaces. The meeting will be on 9 November at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

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23:01, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/The 50,000 Challenge

You are invited to participate in the 50,000 Challenge, aiming for 50,000 article improvements and creations for articles relating to the United States. This effort began on November 1, 2016 and to reach our goal, we will need editors like you to participate, expand, and create. See more here!

--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:40, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Col Sanders

Hello! I've been working on the Colonel Sanders page, splitting out KFC from his "Later career" section. I noticed a problem when the text mentions Sanders' then mistress and later his wife - What's the correct style when this person is mentioned? First mention has first and last name - subsequent listings say "Sanders and Claudia" instead of using her last name. What's the correct way to refer to her? Thanks for everything you do! William — Preceding unsigned comment added by WmArbaugh (talk • contribs) 19:41, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

@WmArbaugh: I can see how clunky that looks, but I'm not sure what the best solution is, or if there's a "better" way of phrasing it. Maybe ask at the Help desk? Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 12:46, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-46

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Recent changes

  • When you edit with the visual editor you can use meta + shift + k to add a reference. The meta key is often the control key or command key. [40]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from November 15. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from November 16. It will be on all wikis from November 17 (calendar).
  • In Special:Preferences you can choose which language menus and buttons will be in. If there is no translation for that language, MediaWiki has a list of fallback languages. A fallback language is a language many will understand better than English. MediaWiki will now use English when there is no Ukrainian translation. [41]

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 15 November at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

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19:18, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Assata Shakur

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Re: Section order

Per this and this, I'd never read MOS:ORDER until now. Shit.. looks like I have been doing it wrong all this time. Very wrong. Indeed it does say to have succession boxes (not navboxes in this case) at the bottom of an article, rather than their own sections as I've been adding them. Ach.. That means yet more tweaks to hundreds of articles. Thanks for bringing that to my attention (well, to the other user, but I noticed via watchlist). Is there any way to sneak around the guideline, or should I get to work on it now? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 18:54, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome. I don't know if there's an exception to the guideline on this (might be best to ask at WP:WikiProject Boxing). At any rate, I'm not going to rush you.  :) Thanks for reminding me these are more properly called succession boxes. :) Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 18:59, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-47

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Administrators, bureaucrats, oversighters and checkusers can now use two-factor authentication. This makes their Wikimedia accounts more secure. This can be turned on in Special:Preferences. There are discussions on how to best turn it on for everyone. [43]
  • You can now search for file properties. For example you can search for media type, how big a file is or what resolution it has. [44]
  • The latest Collaboration team products newsletter has been published. It has more details about their work than Tech News has.

Problems

  • A hacker group is hacking Wikimedia accounts. They can probably do this because users have the same passwords on Wikimedia wikis as on other sites. Please have a password you use only on the Wikimedia wikis and nowhere else. This is especially important for administrators, bureaucrats, oversighters and checkusers. These users can also turn on two-factor authentication. [45]

Changes this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
  • RevisionSlider will be a default feature on German, Arabic and Hebrew Wikipedia. This will happen on 22 November. It will come to other wikis later. [46][47][48]

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 22 November at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • It will be possible to do cross-wiki search. The developers who work on this are looking for communities that want to test this. [49]
  • Hovercards will leave the beta stage. The Wikimedia Foundation Reading Web team wants communities to set Hovercards as a default option for readers who are not logged in. Communities that are interested can say so on the Hovercards talk page. [50]

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15:33, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!

Hello, Stevietheman. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. Mdann52 (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:United States involvement in regime change

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New Page Reviewer - RfC

Hi StefenTower. You are invited to comment at a further discussion on the implementation of this user right to patrol and review new pages that is taking place at Wikipedia:New pages patrol/RfC on patrolling without user right. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:45, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter

Hello StefenTower,
Breaking the back of the backlog
We now have 804 New Page Reviewers! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog. Now it's time for action.
Mid July to 01 Oct 2016

If each reviewer does only 10 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work!
Let's get that over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.

Second set of eyes

Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work. Read about it at the new Monitoring the system section in the tutorial.

Getting the tools we need - 2016 WMF Wishlist Survey: Please vote

With some tweaks to their look, and some additional features, Page Curation and New Pages Feed could easily be the best tools for patrollers and reviewers. We've listed most of what what we need at the 2016 WMF Wishlist Survey. Voting starts on 28 November - please turn out to make our bid the Foundation's top priority. Please help also by improving or commenting on our Wishlist entry at the Community Wishlist Survey. Many other important user suggestions are listed at at Page Curation.

Sent to all New Page Reviewers. Discuss this newsletter here. If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself from the mailing list. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:16, 26 November 2016 (UTC) .

User: Cgx8253

Hello. I believe that my contributions to Wikipedia are good. For example, JC Penney "red numbers" for negative financial data. Google Finance does it too.

No, internal links are never used for numbers in financial figures. It makes no sense to link them. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 02:07, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Michael Portillo

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Tech News: 2016-48

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes this week

  • When someone tries to log in to a blocked account they will be blocked by a cookie. This means their browser will be blocked even if they change their IP address. This makes it more difficult for returning vandals. [51]
  • When you use Content Translation to adapt a template to a new translation it will work differently. You can adapt big templates such as infoboxes. Translators will have control over the template parameters. A first version of this is released this week. It is possible it will not work correctly with all templates. There will be more updates for this soon. [52]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 November. It will be on all wikis from 1 December (calendar).
  • Gadgets will have a new option called "hidden". This means you can register gadgets that can't be turned on or off from the preferences page. Hiding gadgets was already possible by using [rights=hidden]. You should now use [hidden] instead. [rights=hidden] in old gadgets should be changed to [hidden]. [53][54]

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 29 November at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

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21:17, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

CC Map

Hello! What specifically is out of date on the Common Core map? --seberle (talk) 10:42, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

@Seberle: Questions like this should be asked on Talk:Common Core State Standards Initiative, Also, somebody else placed the tag. But I think it has to do with Florida. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 14:13, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

December 2016

The Special Barnstar
For your efforts at the Muhammad Ali page in fighting vandalism and disruptive edits as well as for your constructive editing on this page. May you continue to keep an eye on this page always. Soham321 (talk) 17:40, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Soham321 (talk) 17:37, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Donald Trump

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Tech News: 2016-49

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can choose to see users from specific user groups in Special:ActiveUsers. [55]
  • Everyone can now see Special:UserRights. Previously only those who could change user rights could. Other users got an error message. [56]
  • ORES can now show how likely an edit is to be damaging to the wiki with different colours. This only works for languages that have trained ORES to recognize damaging edits. [57]

Changes this week

  • You will now see categories with 0 pages in Special:Categories. Previously you did not see empty categories there. [58]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 December. It will be on all wikis from 8 December (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 6 December at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

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18:07, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Hello. Thanks for speaking up so much at the Wishlist.

Right now you are soliciting at English Wikipedia WikiProjects for votes for a particular proposal. I want the wishlist to have good circulation, but I would prefer that advertisements draw attention to the entire wishlist rather than just one proposal.

This wishlist is supposed to be for all Wikimedia projects in all languages, and I would not want advertising to go to one proposal from English Wikipedia. The vote count matters for this and this seems like it might be canvassing as described at Wikipedia:Canvassing.

Can you confirm that you thought this through, and that this will not bias the vote tally? Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:12, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the joe! As part of the message I'm sending, note that I'm saying there are over 260 proposals to review and vote for. The reason why I am asking to review a specific one is that the WikiProjects I'm notifying have used the Popular Pages bot, and it hasn't been working for them since last spring. I want them to know there's a proposal for reviving it. Also, per the survey instructions: "A reasonable amount of canvassing is acceptable. You've got an opportunity to sell your idea to as many people as you can reach. Feel free to reach out to other people in your project, WikiProject or user group." Best wishes. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 18:16, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Okay, everything seems in order then. Thanks for being mindful and doing announcements in the expected way. Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:08, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

BBC 12-hour Editathon - large influx of new pages & drafts expected

New Page Reviewers are asked to be especially on the look out 08:00-20:00 UTC (that's local London time - check your USA and AUS times) on Thursday 8 December for new pages. The BBC together with Wikimedia UK is holding a large 12-hour editathon. Many new articles and drafts are expected. See BBC 100 Women 2016: How to join our edit-a-thon. Follow also on #100womenwiki, and please, don't bite the newbies :) (user:Kudpung for NPR. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:55, 7 December 2016 (UTC))

User:Stevietheman/RCPatrollers list

Did you manually add me to this list - because I don't have that userbox.... — xaosflux Talk 01:15, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: Sorry about that. It got pulled in via User:Xaosflux/Infobox/Sandbox. I don't think there were many cases like this, but unfortunately, I didn't catch it. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 01:33, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Ah ok! I sent your MMS out then I saw it come to me and was worried! No worries, happy editing, — xaosflux Talk 01:39, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Question

Hi Stevie, have you stopped editing the Ali page for now? I should stop pinging you for any feedback pertaining to that page if that is the case. Soham321 (talk) 17:42, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Only temporarily. I am putting a lot of time into the 2016 Community Wishlist Survey on meta right now. If I paid attention to all the Ali updates, I would be too distracted, unfortunately. I'll be back at some point. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 17:45, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
There are content disputes taking place at the Ali page so your expertise and experience are really required there. I also wanted some feedback on whether this is worthy of inclusion in the main Ali article, or if there should be a separate article about this content, or whether I should stop bothering with this content altogether: Ali. No need for immediate feedback on my new query though. Soham321 (talk) 19:23, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Indian 500 and 1000 rupee note demonetisation

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New Page Review - newsletter #2

Hello StefenTower,
Please help reduce the New Page backlog

This is our second request. The backlog is still growing. Your help is needed now - just a few minutes each day.

Getting the tools we need

ONLY TWO DAYS LEFT TO VOTE

Sent to all New Page Reviewers. Discuss this newsletter here. If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself from the mailing list MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:55, 11 December 2016 (UTC) .

Tech News: 2016-50

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Users who have Yahoo email addresses could not use Special:EmailUser to send emails. This has now been fixed. Emails will now come from a @wikimedia.org address. Users who get an email from you will still reply to your email address and be able to see it. [59]
  • You can now see how many categories and pages there are in the categories in Special:TrackingCategories. This is to help you find pages that could need attention. [60]
  • Markup colours for reviewed and pending revisions in the page history and recent changes and logs now match Wikimedia standard colours. The "You have a new message on your talk page" notification will have a slightly different colour. [61]

Problems

  • Because of work on cross-wiki watchlists global renaming is not working. The plan is to turn it on again on 16 December. Global renaming was turned off for a while in late November and early December as well. [62]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 December. It will be on all wikis from 15 December (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on December 13 at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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19:30, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Jollof rice

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Tech News: 2016-51

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News

  • Because of the holidays the next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 9 January 2017.
  • The writers of the technical newsletter are asking for your opinion. Did you get the information you wanted this year? Did we miss important technical news in 2016? What kind of information was too late? Please tell us! You can write in your language. Thank you!

Recent changes

  • Administrators and translation administrators can now use Special:PageLanguage on wikis with the Translate extension. This means you can say what language a page is in. The Translate extension will use that language as the source language when you translate. Previously this was always the wiki's default language. This was usually English. [63]
  • Wikis connected to Wikidata can now use the parser function {{#statements: }} to get formatted data. You can also use {{#property: }} to get raw data. You can see the difference between the two statements. There are also similar new functions in Lua. [64]

Problems

  • Some abuse filters for uploaded files have not worked as they should. We don't know exactly which filters didn't work yet. This means some files that filters should have prevented from being uploaded were uploaded to the wikis. MediaWiki.org and Testwiki have been affected since 13 October. Commons and Meta have been affected since 17 October. Other wikis have been affected since 17 November. [65]

Changes this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week. There will be no new MediaWiki version next week either.

Meetings

  • The next meeting with the VisualEditor team will be on 3 January at 20:00 (UTC). During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. See how to join.

Future changes

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20:33, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Louisville Athletic Club

It might interest you that the "Louisville Athletic Club" was once a college football opponent that nobody wanted to face. See e. g. 1894 Vanderbilt Commodores football team or 1895 College Football All-Southern Team. Cheers. Cake (talk) 18:15, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Changing date formats

This isn't a big deal, but when an article has an established date format, please do not change it arbitrarily, as you did in this edit. See WP:DATERET. Per MOS:NUM, ISO 8601 is a perfectly legitimate format for dates in citations, and it should not be changed without discussion on the talk page. Some editors, such as me, prefer this format, and, yes, we get a little testy when people use scripts to change it without discussion. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:03, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Noted, although I don't think we should be going by personal preference, but instead by readability. This is the first complaint I have ever received on this kind of change, and the change I made was not arbitrary. It was an improvement for human readability. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 01:30, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:And you are lynching Negroes

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James B. Edwards

Re your revert of my addition of James B. Edwards to the List of people from the Louisville metropolitan area – OK, I see your point, but then why is Thomas Alva Edison in the list? He apparently spent a total of about one year in Louisville and was already an adult at the time. —BarrelProof (talk) 21:20, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Probably because he left a mark here (see Thomas Edison House) and he came back to visit for the Southern Exposition. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 21:23, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Holiday card

Wishing you a Charlie Russell Christmas,
StefenTower!
"Here's hoping that the worst end of your trail is behind you
That Dad Time be your friend from here to the end
And sickness nor sorrow don't find you."
—C.M. Russell, Christmas greeting 1926.
Montanabw(talk) 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!


-glove- (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas2}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Transkentucky Transporte Railroad

Revised article, please reconsider speedy deletion.Meloaraujo (talk) 01:14, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Article about Transkentucky Transportation Railroad was supplemented with new references. Merry Christmas... Meloaraujo (talk) 20:37, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

Just wanted to wish you a very merry Christmas and a very happy New Year. Soham321 (talk) 21:23, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:List of earthquakes in 2016

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File:AliCenterExhibitSpace1.jpg, File:AliCenterExhibitSpace2.jpg, File:AliCenterExhibitSpace3.jpg

I nominated these two files for deletion as I do not believe freedom of panorama can apply indoors. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 23:12, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Silicon Alley

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Efforts to fix all CHECKWIKI errors with AWB

Hi. you may also want to see this: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Archive_8#AWB_fixes.2Fdetects_more_of_some_errors. Since November 2014 I keep record of all the new AWB fixes related to CHECKWIKI. 90% of them were done via my reports. In some cases I was the one who added the related piece of code with Rjwilmsi doing most fo the job ofcourse. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:42, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Here is a request for help: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia#More_errors_.2F_more_bots. There are many in other places. Trying to evaluate of what I did the last 6 years make me very uncomfortable. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:43, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

@Magioladitis: thanks for the info/links. In these areas, I think it's best for you (or somebody directly involved with your work) to provide evidence of the process of your CHECKWIKI and AWB development, testing and bot execution work in terms of how they relate to the arb case. I am limiting my evidence to areas I have sufficient knowledge about. I'm trying to avoid areas I would have to do deep new research about, essentially to keep my evidence as authoritative as possible. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 14:58, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
This was just for your information. If someone wants to research the efforts I do they are free to do it. I use phabricator and keep track in WP:AWB/H too. I was not asked to provide evidence about my work on AWB anywhere. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:35, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
@Magioladitis:, understood. However, one doesn't have to be asked to provide evidence to defend their practices, they usually just do it. :) If you think ArbCom needs more background in order to make a better decision, you have an opportunity to do so. If I were you, I wouldn't assume they understand it or will take it upon themselves to dig down deep. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 15:41, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
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