User talk:The devicer

September 2024

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Perso-Turkic war of 588–589. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. HistoryofIran (talk) 13:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war has two sides and the other person doesnt give a legit reason to change my addition yet wages an edit war against me so i cant ve expected to stop an edit war which other side has started. This warning seems to be biased and actually rewarding the behaviour of waging an edit war instead by accepting the whims of people who are dismissing al tabaris source without a legitimate reason just because they are persistent about their demmands without any legitimate reason to back it up The devicer (talk) 23:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No. Read WP:CITE and WP:PST. If you continue you will be reported. HistoryofIran (talk) 23:24, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I said before Original edit had Al Tabari as his source yet you dismissed it by whims of people saying "not logical" sorry but only available source mentions these numbers if you dont like it bring an alternative medieval source like al tabari cant just erase it out of childish temper and whisfull thinking. Also stop being a coward and state your bias as it is. You deleted a person's legitimate army numbers backed by an actual source without any legitimate reason and now waged a edit war against me when I fixed your injustice. You are the perfect example of the reason why wikipedia is a joke among academical societies. Now report me you have power only in a web site yet you even abuse that. What a pathetic behaviour. The devicer (talk) 23:32, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The "legitimate reason" is in those policies you can't be bothered to read. Don't make any more personal attacks or theories about me, see WP:ASPERSIONS and WP:NPA. HistoryofIran (talk) 23:39, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"you deleted the guy's numbers based on al tabari's sources without a legitimate reason and any alternative source. You keep hiding behind irrevelant rules about " majority and I are authority despite not bringing any sources" bring a legitimate source then or dismiss al tabari's estimates by a real study with historical sources. You are a coward who cant even state his obvious bias and a clown with a god complex and I am not afraid of likes of you. Even if you unjustly ban me I have been at least an inconvenience against your power abuse The devicer (talk) 23:50, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hey dummy you cant erase al tabari's medieval source. You can prevent it being seen by normies by asslicking other editors for a few years but academic discourse will always know that al tabari stated that it was 12.000 vs 350.000. And I am glad I made you nervous for a few days because your reign of a few years should also ve distrubted by likes of me. Now cry more to others about personal attacks when you are the one who started edit war ( documented in edit/chat history) pseudo intellectual faggot 👋😃 The devicer (talk) 23:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop attacking other editors. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Isaidnoway (talk) 10:13, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Said contributor has started an edit war against me because I added back the army strength which I saw original editor backed by the medieval source of Al Tabari and they deleted these numbers without any alternative source to dismiss already existing source. So I added them back. Please warn him to not wage an edit war on me. He started the edit war. The devicer (talk) 12:24, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't matter. You edit warred, and then, without provocation, You made personal attacks. If you wish to see yourself continuing edit this site, you will likely need more than your average YouTube apology and a substantial change in attitude. Talk page discussion in these circumstances is compulsory, not optional. See WP:CONSENSUS. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 13:11, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No you deleted al tabari's legitimate source without a reason then historyofiran started an edit war on me The devicer (talk) 13:57, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yeah I definitely deleted al tabaris legitimate source (despite not having edited the page at all)

Anyway are you just here to troll people? It certainly looks like it. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 14:06, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You as in plural.Not spesifically you as a person The devicer (talk) 14:13, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"You" (i.e me and everyone on Wikipedia seemingly) includes me. I unfortunately am not a cyber-magician and can't stealthy alter pages.

"Anyway are you here to troll" x2. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 14:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I included you because you are saying that consensus of some editors which deleted a literal medieval source's estimates without an alternative source is somehow an authority which makes you part of them. Please stop manupilating my sentences in bad faith. And quit with the personal attacks which it is hypothetical to warn me for personal attacks yet call me a troll out of the blue The devicer (talk) 14:26, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hypocritical

The devicer (talk) 14:27, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And quit with the personal attacks which it is hypothetical to warn me for personal attacks yet call me a troll out of the blue

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Key word: "Are you". I don't hear a denial here. Bye-bye. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 14:41, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you clowns cant even check the history of our chat and see historyofiran retard started the edit war lol. You all are licking each other asses while dismissing actual historical sources like al tabari according to your own whims. What a fresk show XD The devicer (talk) 23:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

you should check my last response to your chief 😉 its also for you The devicer (talk) 00:08, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ANI notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. HistoryofIran (talk) 23:48, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September 2024

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because it appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Doug Weller talk 18:01, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

your circus site cant prevent the fact that al tabari stated those numbers which will be known in academic discourse for a long time and the fact that historyofiran retard started the edit war is documented in this site's edit history maybe you should change that too. The devicer (talk) 23:19, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead block me from retarded user talk section too. Are you stupid enough to still assuming I am afraid of that ? Fact is Al Tabari's source will be remain in academic discourse way longer than your god complexed editor lobby. I am just here to penetrate your pseudo intellectual faggot bubble and show you that if you are being academically dishonest and hide behind power abuse not everybody will be afraid of that power abuse and some will call you as what you are. The devicer (talk) 00:04, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"pseudo intellectual faggot bubble"--hmm probably not a good way to win people for you, and it makes one wonder what you actually know about "academic discourse". Please go penetrate somewhere else; in the meantime, I am revoking your access to this talk page, because you're not doing anything useful here. Drmies (talk) 00:11, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]