User talk:Tt1981

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Hello, Tt1981! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking if shown; this will automatically produce your username and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Blue Rasberry 22:38, 28 November 2010 (UTC) Getting started A tutorial • Our five pillars • Getting mentored How to: Edit a page • Upload and use images • Create your first article Intuitive guide to Wikipedia • Article Creation Wizard Getting help Frequently asked questions • Tips Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Help desk: A Wiki Styled page to ask questions on Help directory: A comprehensive list-style help contents page Policies and guidelines Neutral point of view • No original research Verifiability • Reliable sources • Citing sources What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons List of policies • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Policy for non-free content • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism • List of guidelines Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The community Build consensus • Resolve disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Community portal • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Writing articles Be bold in editing • Develop an article The perfect article • Simplified manual of style Stubs • Categories • Disambiguation Peer review • Featured content Miscellaneous User pages • Talk pages Awards a registered contributor can achieve and award Clean up: General • Spam • Vandalism Join a WikiProject • Translation Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

Timber Timbre

Most of your changes to Timber Timbre were fine, obviously, although I did make a minor correction (our article about Bruce Peninsula is at the title Bruce Peninsula (band), not "The Bruce Peninsula".) But I did want to ask if you actually had a specific reason for removing the photograph from the infobox — for example, if it were actually a mislabelled photograph of Pearl Jam or Wu Tang Clan instead of Timber Timbre, or if it were a copyrighted photo that Wikipedia hasn't been given permission to use in the first place, or if you were replacing it with a better photograph, those would be legitimate reasons. But you need to clarify an actual reason why it shouldn't be there. Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 21:18, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

It would be better if you submitted a new photograph before removing the existing one, if at all possible. Also, please understand that you'll also need to file a confirmation through the WP:OTRS process to grant Wikipedia permission to use the new photograph. I know it seems inconvenient, but the way copyright works on here, we actually can't use copyrighted press kit photographs unless the article subject and/or the photographer explicitly gives us permission to do so — the only way we can add photographs to most articles is to take our own photos independently. If there's a photo that you're willing to grant us rights to use, we'll obviously use that instead — but we can't just use a photograph from your press kit without your explicit permission. Hope that helps a bit. Love the album, by the way. Bearcat (talk) 22:25, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Bearcat is correct. Write to either of us if you need help. Blue Rasberry 22:39, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi. For the moment, I let the photo remain as it's not possible for me to guess who wants it removed, although I believe your sincerity. If TT is yours, you should have the right to control a photo if it belongs to you.

Don't let this discourage you. Dig into the Wiki regulations, provide identification, and request the change. Or, better yet, provide a photo more to your liking, although I think the current one is pretty cool.

--UnicornTapestry (talk) 22:44, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Your recent edit summary

Led me to believe that you had reached a consensus on the article talk page to take to photos down whilst you sourced a new one, on that basis I accepted your edit. I then checked the talk page and your talk page and no clear consensus to remove the photo has been reached. Please do not write misleading edit summaries. I have un-accepted the changes. Pol430 (talk) 22:52, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Re: Timber Timbre

Nobody owns Wikipedia articles even if the article is about you (which you can not prove...) per WP:OWN. Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia and everyone is free to contribute but we have strict policies about article content and editing. The image you keep trying to remove has been added to wikipedia from Flickr and is attributed with a free license under GNU. Feel free to replace the image with another one but until that happens the existing image must remain. Any changes you try and make to this article must be accepted by a reviewer, they will not appear in the live encyclopedia until that has happened. You have now tried to remove these images several times despite advice to the contrary, you have not reached a consensus on the article talk page. Stop trying to remove the images, replace them with better ones if you wish. Pol430 (talk) 00:17, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

• Further edit - My mistake its a creative commons license not GNU.

Please stop assuming ownership of articles such as Timber Timbre. Doing so may lead to disruptive behavior such as edit wars and is a violation of policy, which may lead to your being blocked from editing Wikipedia. Pol430 (talk) 00:19, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Just to let you know

For what it's worth, I'd be happy to help you navigate the process of getting a new image uploaded, if you need it; I know things can be confusing around here if you're not familiar with all the rules. But until there's actually a new photo ready for us to use, editors are just going to keep putting the existing photo back in the article again — so if you really want it gone that badly, getting a new photo uploaded and licensed and ready for us would really be much faster and more effective. Bearcat (talk) 00:20, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

thank you! don't kick me out! and let's not have an edit war please. this is confusing enough. i have a new image today. how do i proceed? please advise.

• Hi there, you can upload a new image at commons:Special:Upload please remember to choose a license from the drop down list at the bottom of section 2. You then need to edit the article replacing the existing image name with the name of your new image which is held on Wiki Commons. Hit the preview button to make sure the image displays correctly and then save the page. Once you have uploaded the image at Wiki Commons if you are having difficulties linking it to the article, let me know and I will help further. Pol430 (talk) 15:45, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

• • Blanked improperly issued warning from bot.

At this point, what's happening right now is that the link you're adding to the infobox isn't leading to an actual photo; it's just leading to a dead link. If you're planning to upload one, could you upload it first? And if you already have, could you double check the filename that you used? Bearcat (talk) 22:37, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Hello!

I saw that ClueBot had reverted your edits and thought I would drop by to welcome you and offer you advice on how to upload images correctly. Please see below. --5 albert square (talk) 23:23, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Advice on uploading images

Hello!

Thanks for uploading some pictures to Wikipedia. I wanted to make sure you were aware of some of the requirements and good practices for uploaded images.

• Pick an image name.

When uploading an image, pick a file name that is descriptive, and unique. Remember that many images may be uploaded about the same topic, and remember that names are case sensitive.

• Source the image.

On the image description page, explain where the image came from. If you created the image yourself, then say so. If it's from the web, give a URL. If it's a screenshot of a movie or game, or a scan from a book, give the title.

• Provide copyright and license information.

This part is a little bit trickier, but it's very important. The copyright of the image generally belongs to whoever created it.

If it's a photograph you took, or an image you created (modifying an image that already exists doesn't count) in software like Photoshop or GIMP, then you hold the copyright. To upload it to Wikipedia, you must agree to license it under the GFDL (which allows anyone to use it, but requires that they give credit to the original author and requires that any further edit to the image be licensed under the GFDL as well) or release it into the public domain (which allows anyone to use it for any purpose without restriction.) Do this by placing an appropriate tag on the image description page, like {{GFDL}} or {{PD-self}}. Be sure to mention that you created the image. If you're using {{PD-self}}, you may also want to use {{NoRightsReserved}}, since there is some dispute as to whether one may grant items into the public domain.

If you didn't create the image, or the copyright somehow belongs to another party (like a screenshot, which you might "create", but the copyright belongs to the author of the movie or video game), then you need to find another tag that describes the copyright status of the image. Images used on Wikipedia need to be free for our use and the use of sites which reproduce our content. This means that images cannot have a restriction such as "only for use by Wikipedia", or "for non-commercial use only", or "for educational use". Images without a free license may be usable in certain articles under our policy for non-free content, but such a use must be justified on the image description page.

• Describe the image.

To another reader, the image may not be immediately understood. A caption in an article doesn't explain the image to a visitor who sees it on its image page. Put a brief explanation of what is in the image on the image description page, similar to what you might include in a caption on an article.

Some links to Wikipedia pages on this subject:

Copyrights, Copyright tags, Non-free content, Image description page, Public domain, Images for deletion, Possibly unfree images, Copyright problems, Uploading images

Thanks again for your contributions. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me at my talk page. --5 albert square (talk) 23:23, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

More advice

You asked me for advice and since then the above has been posted to your page. First let me say that Wikipedia's upload process is necessarily confusing because Wikipedia has to be maximally careful not to violate copyright, whereas almost any other site is more casual about this.

The general process is that if you took the photo yourself then you own it, so you will go to Wikimedia Commons (another website, not Wikipedia) and upload it there. When that is done, put the file name into Wikipedia and Wikipedia will automatically know it is on commons. Let me know if you have more problems. Blue Rasberry 23:40, 29 November 2010 (UTC)