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Uanfala,
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On changes in Onam Festival

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Holst 2014

Hello Uanfala. I didn't know the full citation was in the "Further reading", thank you. But i think if a source is used as an inline citation in an article, it should not be in the "Further reading" section of the article. Puduḫepa 18:57, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

That's true. But looking at the article, it appears like other texts from the Further reading have also been cited, and it may also be that all of them might have been used in one way or another without being explicitly referenced. Feel free to make any changes you see fit, but I personally wouldn't worry too much about it, this might be best left to whoever makes the next overhaul of the article. – Uanfala (talk) 19:09, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Found this: WP:Further reading#Relation to reference sections. Puduḫepa 19:12, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

January 2020

Hello, and Namaste, dear Uanfala, I am Dheeraj789 you revert Template:Hindi topics and Template:Urdu topics edits to old but, I think when we add some more varieties, I think we can describe Hindi and Urdu. In an template way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dheeraj789 (talk • contribs) 07:57, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi and sorry for not providing an edit summary in my revert, but your edit to the Urdu template was very similar to edits previously done by a certain disruptive editor, who was pushing a particular point of view that sought to represent many Indian languages as dialects of Urdu. I don't know if you're aware of it, but that's certainly what you give the appearance of doing. – Uanfala (talk) 13:32, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

I am so sorry dear, if it is done by another disruptive editor, I will not repeat my edits, basically I have read that Hindi and Urdu are standards of an similar language called "Hindustani" , so i was thinking that there dialects are also same, i am so sorry, by the way thanks, but I have read in local Hindi books and websites, that Khari Boli is an ancient form of both, Hindi and Urdu, can I add that to Template:Urdu topics, please tell me. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dheeraj789 (talk • contribs) 18:33, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

You appear to be mixing up the two meanings of the word "Hindi". In one sense, the word refers to Modern Standard Hindi, the standardised register of Hindustani with an official status in India, just like Urdu is another standardised form of the same underlying language. On the other hand, when you say that Awadhi, Bhojpuri etc. are "Hindi dialects", there's another meaning of the word involved. It's the "Hindi" of the Hindi belt: a very wide grouping of languages. In this sense, "Hindi" has nothing to do with Modern Standard Hindi and nothing to do with Urdu. This is the reason why your edits have been reverted again and again over the last couple of months. – Uanfala (talk) 23:54, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much, dear — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dheeraj789 (talk • contribs) 04:44, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

@Uanfala: Can't believe this sami guy is here yet again, does he not get tired or something. Weren't IP ranges blocked for him? Seems like he has found new ones to vandalize and disrupt with. Gotitbro (talk) 01:08, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Well, he's a bit of a nuisance, but what can you do? His IP address appears to be dynamic, so I'd reckon he can only be kept off with a range block, and that would presumably also limit access for many legitimate IP editors. But no one has said so explicitly yet, so I guess we can continue asking for such blocks in subsequent SPIs, if there are any. – Uanfala (talk) 01:15, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

I have asked for a rangeblock on the SPI seeing multiple disruptive IP addresses most likely belonging to him. That seems necessary as while it may block some legitimate IP users the disruption by sami is too much.

Is there a more permanent/binding solution for this sockpuppeteer? It tires everyone who comes across his edits and tries to deal with them, because the puppeteer comes right back with multiple socks and IPs. @Fylindfotberserk: should know as well (seeing the multiple SPIs). All I can think of is rangeblocks as there is only so much IP hopping available on dynamic IPs; and page protection. Some pages definitely need long term protection such as the Templates (which I have requested), the main Urdu, Hindi and Hindustani language articles should probably be under some king of protection as well.

Uanfala and Fylindfotberserk please ask for rangeblocks and RPPs when you come across the socks and his IPs. Apart from that the constantly vandalized/disrupted pages need to be under watch.

The sockpuppeteer appears to be active in these broad topics: Hindi-Urdu pages (articles, categories and templates); Indian showbiz (adding Urdu POVPUSHing cats to actors, songs, films and TV shows), Pakistani television (creating blatant hoax articles, cats); the India-Pakistan conflict (creating POVPUSHing articles, templates and cats) and Muhajir topics (adding Muhajir POVPUSH cats). The puppeteer has now started assuming non-Pakistani false identities [Indian Hindu being the latest, previously it was a Thai guy] to push their edits through, he is now also applying the good hand bad hand tactic for the same. Gotitbro (talk) 02:36, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for following up on that. I don't know of the best way of dealing with that as this it's not my area. It's kind of taxing to be dealing with this sock, isn't?, it's like a game of whack-a-mole. I really shoudln't be saying that but I kind of miss dealing with more sophisticated socks. You know, the ones with carefully constructed, believable identities, where it's somewhat satisfying when you manage to uncover them. – Uanfala (talk) 03:02, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

LOL @ this, what can be more WP:HAND. Nice work Gotitbro. Considering the recent discussions and the large scale of users involved, in the Hindustani language article, I believe we have more eyes watching that one. I'll request PP and range block whenever possible. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:11, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

@Uanfala and Fylindfotberserk: This is the Wikia of the sockpuppeteer. It contains pages copied from Wikipedia (edited with the POV they'd like to push) and the pages he is most likely to frequent and disrupt. Do watchlist articles that interest you there. [It seems like a pastime for this sockpuppeteer as he returns with new accounts/IPs day after day and appears to "enjoy" faking identities and disrupting. The only solution (besides rangeblocks) is to watchlist and RPP the most frequently vandalized articles (and I believe you are already familiar with his non-sensical editing style along with PTCL IPs that geolocate to Karachi, to identify his edits). Gotitbro (talk) 18:06, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Awesome work finding that Wikia bro. I already have quite a lot of those articles watchlisted. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:17, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

These are the IP ranges that have been used by sami in past: 39.51.*, 119.157.*, 182.190.*, 119.159.*, 119.153.*, 43.246.*, 182.183.*. If you see Urdu POV from any of these ranges (or any PTCL Karachi IP) and similar sami nonsense it is most likely him; currently his edits are coming from 39.51.*. His edits have been somewhat limited due to previous range blocks and page protections, so do RPP and watchlist extremely disrupted pages. We need to ask for range blocks and page protections whenever possible. Fylind please add a range block request for 39.51.* to your latest SPI on sami [IP range edits are there on the Urdu article]. Also keep an eye on Urdu POV from weird usernames which are most likely sami socks. Thanks. Gotitbro (talk) 07:44, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Forgot to tag you. Gotitbro (talk) 07:46, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

@Gotitbro: Yup. Requested range block. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:03, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

@Fowler&fowler: The user account you have been interacting with recently at Hindustani language most likely belongs to the sockpuppeteer User:Muhammad Samiuddin Qazi (sami) (see the conversation above). I would wait for the SPI to be closed on that account before proceeding to edit. That puppeteer is a chronic disruptor who doesn't stop until blocked. Any recent users with peculiar usernames (and a bad command of English) pushing an Urdu POV are most likely his socks - along with the IP ranges mentioned above. The most disrupted topics by the puppeteer are in the Urdu, Hindi and Hindustani areas so do keep an eye out. Gotitbro (talk) 02:50, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Not to mention that he likes faking identities (as he his currently doing on his User page) and edits (doing good hand bad hand edits which he seems to be doing now [with the same account I might add] adding a bit of Hindi POV and then removing it to load it with Urdu POV claiming to to so after having "read" something, in the current case Britannica). Gotitbro (talk) 02:58, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Do you think this[1] might be another one? –Austronesier (talk) 10:52, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Oh yes, seems extremely likely. – Uanfala (talk) 15:17, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

@Uanfala and Fylindfotberserk: Seems like sami has changed his IP provider, the recent edits by the IPs on the Hindustani language page look exactly like sami to me. The ranges being (168.211.*, 196.195.*, 117.102.*). Gotitbro (talk) 12:40, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

@Uanfala, Fylindfotberserk, and Austronesier: I am going to create an LTA page for sami. Can someone help me to list the ranges in the discussion above (39.51.*, 119.157.*, 182.190.*, 119.159.*, 119.153.*, 43.246.*, 182.183.*, 168.211.*, 196.195.*, 117.102.*) as they are in the infobox here (in the CIDR format). Thanks. Gotitbro (talk) 06:32, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

@Gotitbro: Go ahead. I'll keep adding IPs confirmed/or otherwise as I come across them. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:01, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Uanfala and @Fylindfotberserk: I have created the LTA page for sami, here: WP:LTA/SAMI. Feel free to add anything you think should be there or I have missed. Just cite the LTA when reverting him. I also ask you to be extra vigilant especially now, its COVID-19 and our puppeteer has all the time in the world (with most countries on lockdown including PK). @Uanfala: Can you take a look at Rekhta and take care of the socking there. Fylind can you look at the Dubbing (filmmaking) and watchlist it. Thanks. Gotitbro (talk) 13:31, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Nice. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:43, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

@Gotitbro: I have most of the language-related articles targeted by this sockfarm on my watchlist. We can point to the LTA when reporting new socks, but I prefer not to mention it in reverts per WP:DENY. –Austronesier (talk) 15:05, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

@Austronesier: You're right that was naive on my part as the puppeteer clearly craves attention. Can I ask you to be vigilant on Rekhta (I might've gone overboard while dealing with the sock on there). Other major articles Hindustani, Hindi, Urdu are already under PP; I request others here to RPP other vandalized pages as well. Gotitbro (talk) 15:13, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

@Gotitbro: Have added Rekhta now, I have missed it somehow until now. Looking at the recent hist is a nauseating experience for such a small article. –Austronesier (talk) 16:13, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

@Austronesier: It really is, I usually wait for the accounts/IPs to get blocked after submitting an SPI but the disruption continues unabated in that timeframe and it gets hard to ignore. All language article listed in the Central Indo-Aryan languages are targeted by this puppeteer, including articles related to Urdu and Hindi: Dakhini, Old Hindi etc. If you can watchlist these it would be great. Gotitbro (talk) 16:37, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Uanfala! FYI, unrelated to this but the same kind of problem: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/WorldCreaterFighter –Austronesier (talk) 12:55, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Dehwar

I appreciate your rationale for changing the cleanup tags to {{cn}} and I understand why you think it unnecessary to put cleanup tags on a short article, but I do think they can be appropriate for short articles in some cases; I don't feel strongly enough to revert, but I did want to explain myself. In this case, Dehwar is a short article, but it has been around for more than 10 years, has been longer quite longer than one sentence, and has included references (though they were evidently unreliable). While I did want to note that the page was unsourced, I moreso thought it deserved {{sources exist}} to appropriately reflect that both you (based on your edit summary) and I (based on a Google books search prompted by your edit summary) had verified that this subject had sources and found the subject potentially notable. I do not feel that I know enough about the sources to validate the subject, but the tag was intended to prompt cleanup that would prevent it from being nominated for AfD, not to indicate that I thought it should be deleted. —Ost (talk) 16:11, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I had misunderstood the point of {{Sources exist}}: I had only read the first, bolded, sentence displayed by the template and I had assumed, wrongly, that it indicated a notability concern. Feel free to reinsert it, but I still don't see it as needed. At the very least, its ultimate message is "don't send to AfD" and so is only directed to other editors – I don't think I like the idea of a one-sentence article preceded by a whole paragraph of text in a bright box that's not relevant to readers. And I don't think it's necessary: there are probably several hundred articles about South Asian ethnic groups that are in the exact same situation (in terms of history and present content) and I don't recall seeing any of them subjected to disruptive deletion nominations in the recent past. As for {{unsourced}}: it doesn't really say anything that a reader wouldn't have already noticed by themselves. It does make a difference to the maintenance category that the article will be sorted in, but my impression has been that this doesn't usually attract editor attention (and on the rare occasions that it has, the results haven't consistently been constructive). – Uanfala (talk) 16:33, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

A special barnstar for you!

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		For your peace talks during the 2020 Sylheti Nagri quarrel! UserNumber (talk) 22:37, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Come on, I only gave a short comment that could be seen as supportive of both camps. Though I have to say I like the way you've created a glorious chronicle of this wiki scuffle :) – Uanfala (talk) 02:58, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Prod

Thanks for the ping at Doen tv – I made a mental note to take a look at it today but I see it's been speedied. I suppose we'll never know whether I would have objected or not. Keep up the good work! – Arms & Hearts (talk) 15:41, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Well, this, I guess, is one of the benefits of the article deletion processes. Copyright violations get noticed and dealt with. I don't think we have the habit of checking for copyvios in the old revisions of redirects at RfD, so if this were nominated there and survived in some form, the infringing content would have probably remained in the history. Though from this vantage point, my action of restoring (albeit with a prod tag) content that has later turned out to be a copyvio, appears a bit irresponsible, I have to admit. – Uanfala (talk) 15:50, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Help with Ende language

Hi Uanfala! I want to create a stub about Ende, an Austronesian languages spoken in Flores, Indonesia. Currently, Ende language is a dab. The first entry is a pretty uncommon (I won't say "spurious" again) alt name for the "Sumba–Flores" (or "Flores–Sumba" or "Flores–Sumba–Hawu") subgroup. A simple redirect would suffice, no idea why it is in the dab.

The second entry is "my" Ende. Currently, it redirects to Li'o language, but in all modern sources, it is treated as a distinct language (including in the dear old aunties Ethnololgue and Glottolog). ISO 639-3 is [end].

The third entry is Agob language, which is a redirect to the Agob languages in PNG. In Ethnologue and Glottog, Ende is considered of variant of the Agob language.

Before I create a mess with redirects and the dab, I'd better ask before you have to clean it up: my idea is to kick out the first entry (back to straight redirect), create a new stub Ende language (Indonesia) and a new redirect Ende language (Papua New Guinea)→Agob languages. The dab will then be:

Ende may refer to the following languages:

• Ende language (Indonesia), an Austronesian language spoken on Flores Island, Indonesia
• Ende language (Papua New Guinea), a Papuan language of Papua New Guinea

In spite of the different ISO status, I prefer to treat the two Ende-s equally. What do you think? –Austronesier (talk) 14:43, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Sounds excellent! I take it that the redirect in question is Ende-Manggarai languages, – yeah, there's no need to have an entry for it: to use a bit of dab jargon, it's a WP:PTM. "Your" Ende may be the more prominent one, but I agree it's best not to move that to the primary topic. There's something that complicates matters a bit: there's apparently also an Ende language in another part of Indonesia: it's listed as an alternative name in https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/bara1371, with some mentions in the article Kaili language. – Uanfala (talk) 15:34, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Damn how could I forget. Sulawesi used to be my second home, and it is still one of my major research areas. Ok, in this case, I would consider the Ende language of Flores the primary topic for Ende language (Indonesia) (>100k speakers, Ende is renowned as the place where Soekarno was exiled by the Dutch regime), and probably place a "for"-hatnote pointing to "Baras language" (< 1k speakers). –Austronesier (talk) 16:10, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Punjabi Alphabet

I made a page about punjabi alphabet but you reverted. I have its source/citation. Thats not duplicate of shahmukhi. Thats unique other alphabet named Punjabi Alphabet. I will make a complete page then you will understand. Ranazubair1337 (talk) 05:55, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

It's this page, right? As far as I can see, this is a variant of Shahmukhi, and is best covered as part of that article. However, please note that regardless of where this new scheme is described (in a separate article or within the one on Shahmukhi), you'll need reliable sources – Omniglot doesn't pass the mark as it has user-generated content, and you will have to retell the information of those sources in your own words instead of copying them verbatim (because of copyright). – Uanfala (talk) 10:02, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

MfD

Thanks for the ping, not sure why XfD closer didn't follow through on deletions, I'll have to be more careful here on out. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 01:20, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I reckoned it might have been a hiccup in the gadget. – Uanfala (talk) 01:25, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

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Hindi (disambiguation)

Hello, Unafala. You recently reverted the page Hindi (disambiguation). Notice, though, that the page is a disambiguation page and not an article. Therefore, it should not contain maps, detailed descriptions, or other information of that sort. A disambiguation page should contain only a list of bulleted links to things called (in this instance) Hindi. See MOS:DAB for the manual of style. If there are, as you say, "actually legitimate entries", please add them. But also, please remove all the material that is not related to disambiguation. Happy editing, Cnilep (talk) 05:22, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Well, I had already performed a cleanup of sorts about two weeks ago. There's certainly room for improvement but I don't think there's that much left that can be removed. The purpose of a dab page is to help readers get where they want by unpacking the meanings of the ambiguous term (and that's not necessarily exhausted by the list of articles that have that term in their titles). There's nothing wrong with maps on dab pages if they help distinguishing the various disambiguated articles (Congo is a classical example of that). The styles guidelines are all good, but if narrowly following them leads us to do disservice to our readers we should ignore them (the guidelines themselves say as much). – Uanfala (talk) 11:33, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Brazilian number

Bonjour, Unafala. Thanks for your comment on my draft about “Brazilian numbers”. Excuse my English that is not my native language.

1) I was really surprised to read that Sulfurboy on February 27 does not accept my draft about “Brazilian Number“ because ”This submission provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject matter". !!!!

2) Today, I see that my submission on “Brazilian Numbers" has been created on March 1, very big thanks...

3)… but this article has been put in “Repdigit” article.

4) I really think that this article merits to have its own article. Why?

• 4.1) This article “Brazilian number” comes from the French Wikipédia article "Nombre brésilien": link below:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nombre_br%C3%A9silien

• 4.2) This submission "Brazilian number" is like other mathematical articles that concern number theory such as palindromic numbers, prime numbers, self numbers, Fermat numbers, Mersenne numbers, repunits, transcendental numbers, ... there is an introduction, followed by an history presentation, then different paragraphs that detailed the properties of these numbers. The structure of this article is perfect for beeing independent.
• 4.3) The Brazilian number section I have written is here 12 times greater than the original article about repdigits, this is not balanced; when there is a complement on an article, the complement is always smaller than the original text. Here, it is clearly the opposite and this cannot be good for understanding the whole article.
• 4.4) There are in the “Brazilian number” text 28 Wikipedia references (in blue) towards mathematical terms or famous mathematicians, and ten references or external links towards historical articles. I don't forget the 18 links to OEIS sequences related with Brazilian numbers. That proves that this article can (must) be autonomous.
• 4.5) About mathematical angle, all Brazilian numbers are repdigits but the converse is false. I remark also that you use my definition of Brazilian numbers to explain repdigits (thanks).
• 4.6) To finish, repdigits belong rather to recreative mathematics and Brazilian belong rather to number theory.

Hence, please, only one question, why don't you create a Brazilian number article independent as in French Wikipédia? There is no sens to put this structured article of 102 lines at the end of the repdigit article of only 7 lines...

Merci for your answer.

Best regards.

OSS117 (talk) 18:30, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

OSS117, I was as surprised at the initial rejection as you must have been – but as in most things in the world, Wikipedia's processes are far from perfect. The upside is that you won't need to use the Articles for Creation process anymore – you're not a new user now so you can create articles straight away. As for Brazilian number, I came across it by chance and all I did was to accept it and then ask for input from the Maths Wikiproject (as I'm not a mathematician myself). The discussion is at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics#Brazilian number. The participants there proposed and carried out the merge into repdigit, I haven't had any substantial involvement. I'll copy over your message to that talk page so that the relevant discussions are all in one place (I hope you don't mind?) and I'll invite the others to comment. Thank you for your patience! (and English isn't my native language either ;-) ) – Uanfala (talk) 23:00, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello, just to say that all the participants think that the merge was the correct outcome. I have proposed a lot of mathematical reasons to prove otherwise. No possible, participants think it is the best issue. So, I have removed the article "Brazilian number" from the "Repdigit" article. Repdigit article had 8 lines to the beginning, then 109 lines after the merge, now it comes back to 8 lines. Merci. OSS117 (talk) 17:20, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Small request

Hi Uanfala! I would like to upload some images for some articles that I have created. I have not uploaded images which I don't own on Wikipedia before so could you please do the favour of uploading these for me: https://ia800600.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/10/items/in.gov.ignca.34829/34829_jp2.zip&file=34829_jp2/34829_0193.jp2&scale=4&rotate=0 which I got from this book - Nath, Rajmohan (1948). The back-ground of Assamese culture. A. K. Nath. UserNumber (talk) 16:39, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

I've had to ask for help here. It appears that these photos can't be uploaded on Commons as their copyright hasn't expired in the US (even though it is in India: they need to be out of copyright both in the country where they were published and in the country where Wikimedia's servers are located). To quote from the answer I was given: Unless it can be shown that the photographs were actually taken before 1945 (so that they would have already been public domain in India by 1996) or that they or the book containing them were published in the United States within 30 days and failed to follow the appropriate formalities (such as including a copyright notice and renewing the copyright in the 28th year), then the photos are copyrighted in the US until 2044.. – Uanfala (talk) 19:21, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Proposed disambiguation of Coronavirus (and thus Corona-as-Coronavirus)

Hi,
I see you have some interest in this, so I thought I'd solicit your input before I go ahead with this.

As you've probably seen, I've modified the entry for Coronavirus on the Corona dab page, to follow Wikipedia style guidelines as well as include useful/germane entries related to the increased use of "corona" as shorthand for outbreak-related topics.

In doing so I noticed a couple of things:

• There are actually several articles that are related to the coronavirus outbreak, that could all be said to be called "corona" by some as a colloquial term;
• Many of these are mentioned in a lengthy hatnote on the Coronavirus page;

and...

• All of them, including Coronavirus, as it turns out, fail one of the key tests for inclusion on a disambiguation page: the target articles do not mention the term "corona" as an accepted alternate name for the topic. (And just mentioning is insufficient; the article would then need a citation for that usage.)

There's an easy fix for this, I think. What is actually called for is a "coronavirus" disambiguation page. That's what's become an overlaid term that refers to the virus, the specific virus strain, the disease it causes, and the outbreak of that disease. "Corona" is a shorthand abbreviation for that blurry term, but it's not used as often as "coronavirus".

The "Corona" dab page can then simply refer to this:

See also

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• Coronavirus (disambiguation), including references to the 2019—20 outbreak

...and its existence will simplify the Coronavirus hatnote:

For other uses, including those related to the 2019—20 outbreak, see Coronavirus (disambiguation).

Thoughts? I've already created the disambiguation page, as that seems like a non-controversial step in any event.--NapoliRoma (talk) 20:37, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, in casual contexts coronavirus, and the more informal shorthand corona, seem to refer to this cluster of related topics and when disambiguating, we should link to the three/four articles involved. If Coronavirus (disambiguation) exists, then I agree it's better for Corona (disambiguation) to link to it rather than disambiguate on its own. However, that link ought to be in the body of the dab page, not the "see also" as it's a genuine meaning of corona and not just some related term – as long as we've got documented cases of its use, we can ignore WP:DABMENTION: articles don't need to list all informal synonyms, and in this case the connection between the disambiguated term and the name of the target articles is obvious.

As for the hatnote at Coronavirus, I don't think it needs simplifying at this stage. While it is true that this article is the undoubted primary topic, it is also the case that at the moment, and possibly for many moths to come, the vast majority of readers who arrive there will actually be looking for one or another of the articles about the current outbreak or the associated disease and virus strain. With a hatnote, these articles are accessible in a single click, whereas channelling the traffic via a dab page adds an extra step. – Uanfala (talk) 21:46, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Moving Page

Hello, I requested you to move page "Tea-tribe of Assam" to "Tea garden community of Assam" as "Tea garden community of Assam" is correct name for the article because So called tea tribe are not entirely tribal or Scheduled Tribes people as it also includes several Scheduled Caste, Other Backward Castes and other. So these calling caste population of tea garden as tribe is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dev0745 (talk • contribs) 07:23, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

I had reverted your move because it used cut-and-paste (as explained at the time). I've now asked for the desired move at WP:RMT, so someone will probably move the article to Tea-garden community of Assam within a couple of hours. – Uanfala (talk) 11:52, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Bihar

Would kindly you check the language figures in the Bihar article that has been recently updated. I've put a failed verification tag since Bhojpuri, Magahi and Surjapuri are not explicitly mentioned for Bihar (for that matter not any state). - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:40, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

The figures have probably been taken from the state- and district-level tables, and the percentages for Surjapuri are roughly consistent from what I've got extracted from there. The problem with using the census figures for Bihar is more fundamental though: to a greater extent than most other areas in the Hindi belt, the figures do not reliably reflect the actual numbers as a significant (and varying over time) percentage of speakers of the various Bihari languages have tended to identify their language as Hindi. – Uanfala (talk) 22:40, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

True. Some languages considered "Hindi" in Bihar might not be Hindi at all. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:05, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Trouted

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: YOUR REASON HERE Game148 (talk) 02:32, 16 March 2020 (UTC) Please add the link in references instead of undoing the work. Thanks!

Soft redirection of langauge

Regarding langauge: The plain soft redirect template is not used in the mainspace. Any alternative avenues to remedy the problem you alluded to? — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 03:46, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Well, the template hasn't been intended to be used in mainspace, but I think that's a rather neat solution in this case. Does its use here have any negative consequences in practice? An alternative is deletion – I'm completely fine with it as the search engine suggestions easily handle this particular typo – but I don't believe starting an RfD could easily result in such an outcome. – Uanfala (talk) 11:15, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Hindi

Hello - you might be interested in Talk:Hindi (disambiguation)#Requested move 16 March 2020. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:48, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Improvements to Wikipedia

Dear Uanfala, why don't you improve Wikipedia better? PPEMES (talk) 22:53, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Hindi (disambiguation) 2

I'm sorry, when I cleaned up Hindi (disambiguation) after looking at the page move result, I failed to notice (because I didn't look properly) that someone else had already done so, and that you had reverted some of it. Nevertheless, the page now looks much more like a properly-formatted disambiguation page (the consensus) and less like anything else. Regards, Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:28, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Well, this dab page has seen a lot of back-and-forth between editors chopping away in the name of the MOS and editors who kept adding back all manner of superfluous content, and I've so far tried to strike some sort of middle way between the two (see this thread above). I might need to reverse a few of your changes: for example, I think it's helpful to be explicit about how broad each meaning is even if that means moving the link to the back; the last entry is currently incorrect: Hindi doesn't lie with in the Hindi belt, it is the Hindi belt; Bombay Hindi, Fiji Hindi, etc. belong in the body and not the "see also" because they're sometimes referred to as just "Hindi". – Uanfala (talk) 19:11, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, your patience is appreciated! Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:29, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

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Western Pahari

Hello Uanfala. You recently reverted changes made by me. I am a speaker of Himachali dialects (Kahluri in particular).

My first issue with this whole page is the usage of terminology. Today, Himachal is a state which includes languages of both Indo-Aryan as well as Sino-Tibetan roots. Whenever you make a simple google search, this article pops up first, and shows only part of languages of Himachal Pradesh and includes languages which are rather indigenous to the neighbouring state. This leads a incomplete sharing of the actual ground level truth. You say this page is linguistically defined but are very easily using geographical terms. I therefore request you to not to use the term "Himachali Languages" (even though it is termed in this manner on Glottolog), and strictly stick with the term Western Pahari. If you don't agree with this, I can't make sense out of the fact that how come, Jaunsari, Bhaderwahi and Dogri becomes Himachali Languages and Lohar, Chinalbashe ,etc. are not, in today's context.

Urdu script was used and still used in small scale to write, by the common populace, because it was taught to them in school. As for the matter of fact, almost all Himachali dialects are oral, so it doesn't makes much sense to ask for sufficient official document which were written in these scripts. People in 1960s, 1970s have learned Urdu script, Devanagari script and therefore, both these scripts are used. Besides, there is a sizeable Muslim population in Chamba, who too use urdu script. About roman script, for obvious reason today's generation use it and I don't think one needs a whole glottolog or research paper to prove this. As a matter of fact I personally use it and I know a lot many other Himachali people who use it. Coming to Brahmi Script, I can agree that it won't make sense to talk about Pahari languages then. But I can't make sense that you have reverted it for Kashmiri Sharda Script, when Tankri and Devashesh Scripts are derived form it. Devashesh Script was used mostly by the priestly class and can be seen in temples along with Tankri script. You will find a huge variety in Tankri script throughout Himachal Pradesh, but only end up talking about the Chambeali standard. The Kaulantak Peeth still use Devashesh and Tankri today.

The reason I had included Bagali and Baghati (Lower Mahasu), is that they are significantly different from the Upper Mahasu dialects. You have condensed both of them, when they shouldn't have been done so, because then you can condense other Himachali dialects the way you want to. Therefore, I request you to keep them separate, as they are separate in Glottolog too.

You say that PLSI is not a reliable source. Can you explain me why is this so? Because if this is so, you mean to say I can't include the folktales or stories mentioned in this book, in corresponding wiki pages? I have personally gone through the book, and I can say that it records these dialects pretty well.

At the end, thanks for giving more structure to the list of dialects. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nik9hil (talk • contribs) 10:40, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Nik9hil. Wikipedia definitely needs more editors with knowledge of Kahluri (I think you're the first one I've seen so far) and with awareness of the language situation in Himachal more broadly. I'm sure you have a lot to contribute here and I hope you decide to stay. If there's one wikipedia page that I'd recommend for you to have a look at, that's WP:OR – this is the point where writing for wikipedia most clearly diverges from most types of writing elsewhere.

The article Western Pahari is about the linguistically defined group of closely related languages, it doesn't completely overlap with the set of languages spoken in the state of Himachal. The two can easily be confused, so at least for now I'll add a short note to the article clarifying that. Probably we might need a long-term solution involving some change in the topic structure. To begin with, Himachali language (and the plural Himachali languages) can be turned into a disambiguation page instead of redirecting to the Pahari article. There're also uses of "Himachali" to refer to these languages perceived as a single language, right? This will probably need to be explained somewhere in the article.

I'm not very familiar with the situation around the scripts used for Pahari. If anything is dubious in the current article, feel free to remove it. You can add a mention of the informal use of the Latin script, but anything else will ideally need to be reliably sourced. If you add anything without a source there, I'll leave it be, but it's possible that others might remove it. Again, it's important that the script is/was used for a given Western Pahari language, not that the script was used in the territory of what is now Himachal Pradesh. For scripts used within the state, regardless of language, you can add some brief content in Himachal Pradesh#Languages (though that section could definitely be also expanded with a fuller list of the languages spoken in the state).

I've listed the languages based on Glottolog, but that's just a starting point. Glottolog treats Baghati as a dialect of Lower Mahasu Pahari [2], but we don't need to follow that. Feel free to add Baghati as a separate language, but just leave a mention in the footnote that its inclusion there departs from the source.

The PLSI is partially reliable. You can use it for general information, like names and locations of languages. Statements about the phonology or grammar may be alright, but they tend to be linguistically naive, so other sources are usually preferable. Feel free to quote words or brief passages in a given language, but the full texts of stories or folktales don't really belong on wikipedia. For claims about history, linguistic or otherwise, it's better to use other sources. When citing the PLSI, please include fuller bibliographic details, in addition to the title and year of the book this includes the title of the chapter and the name of the author of that chapter. You may find Template:cite book helpful. – Uanfala (talk) 13:17, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation. I am very new to these terms and practices and in fact these were my first edits. I am eager to learn them and contribute to further pages.

As for the term Himachali languages, yes, it is used to refer to a subset of Western Pahari Languages. This is done due to two main reasons: first being that these dialects form a dialect continuum, with neighbouring dialects having 80%-90% mutual intelligibilty. Due to this, even though ideally i am a Kahluri speaker, I have a good proficiency in Kangri, Chambeali, Gaddi, Mandeali, Baghali-Baghati, Sirmauri and some proficiency in Kullui and Mahasu Pahari (Upper). Secondly, native people use this term to for the sake of easier explanation to non-native speakers. A more general word Pahari in used, to refer many of these languages/dialects, amongst the people of Uttarakhand, Himachal Pradesh and Jammu and Kashmir. Do note, that the word Pahari is just for the name sake, because their is no community who has been calling themselves as Pahari, they use indigenous terms.

If not this, people do resort to saying that they are speaking a dialect of Hindi of Punjabi or sometimes Dogri (more common amongst the Kangri and Chambeali people, due to similarities and the fact that Dogri is a scheduled language). This leads to identity loss,confusion or dilution which I want to tackle by contributing to wikipedia pages.

Besides, Pahari(Himachali) , Gahrwali and Kumaoni (latter two being indigenous to Uttarakhand) are currently under consideration to be given scheduled language status by the Ministry of Home Affairs and therefore, i guess we should start looking these languages separately from Hindi, because at least the native speakers have started looking in this manner.

I seldom read research papers on this topic to better understand and compare with whatever i know. I would want to contribute all this to pages for the masses to read and be more mindful to include more citations.

Belgic

[3] Yes, you're absolutely right, I left a tab open in my browser to look at later. Sorry! Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:21, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

MathML

Thanks for the suggestion for Math tag. BoldLuis (talk) 01:55, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Help to give solutions. Thankssssssssssss. BoldLuis (talk) 01:56, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! But that was just a simple run-of-the-mill suggestion, I don't even know if it's the best one – there might be other maths markup languages out there that make use of "maths tags". – Uanfala (talk) 12:53, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Think slowly about it and observing how it was implemented, it is the best sollution. You are a constructive editor and this benefits Wikipedia and other editors. Best wishes. --BoldLuis (talk) 13:33, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Edit for Mianwalli

Hey, I would like to tell you that all districts use provincial flag and seal for official work. So I've restored my edits. Wasi Haider (talk) 13:03, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Wasi Haider, it's about this edit, right? The infobox for a given district should generally list official insignia only if they're specific to the district, not emblems of higher-level units that the administration of this district might be using. See for example the articles for Lahore District, Multan District, or any other really. – Uanfala (talk) 13:13, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Move discussion you may be interested in

Hi Uanfala. Given your recent edit at Anthropology, I wanted to alert you to the discussion I'm starting at Standard cross-cultural sample about a page move to "Standard Cross-Cultural Sample." --Pinchme123 (talk) 15:07, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

50,000 Destubbing Challenge Focus of the Week

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Wonder if winners have to refund if someone later restubs an article after noticing that it has been destubbed solely for challenge purposes :) –Austronesier (talk) 18:58, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

:) That could happen, if there are prizes involved, people can do all kinds of strange things. – Uanfala (talk) 21:03, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Re. Nominative–accusative language article

Uanfala, please also see the Nominative–accusative language notice, "A request that the title of this article be changed to Nominative–accusative alignment is under discussion," involving your recent deleted and subsequently restored material regarding this article. Cheers. Kent Dominic 11:28, 5 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kent Dominic (talk • contribs)

Yeah, I've already commented in the RM discussion – that's what brought me to the article in the first place. – Uanfala (talk) 12:17, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Lacandon

Not sure my technical objection requires a formal move discussion, but it wouldn't hurt when you're changing the meaning of a widely-used article (now redirect after a move) that may well be linked from places you have no control over. In my case, Rigel is in the middle of a featured article review and doesn't need its wikilinks turning funny colours just when things are looking good. Also, on a technical level, if Lacandon is to be a redirect to a dab page instead of a primary topic (or primary topic redirect), it should actually be a dab page and Lacandon (disambiguation) should be a redirect to it. I'd be tempted to leave it alone, but that's just me. Lithopsian (talk) 16:36, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

I was simply reverting a move from two years ago, and I'd left the final step – the move of the dab page – to the admins patrolling WP:MALPLACED (who can do that with significantly less fuss than me). The wikilink at Rigel has turned a funny colour because of a script you've installed: to readers, it doesn't look any different from other links. – Uanfala (talk) 16:43, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, but the link is still broken, whatever colour it is to different readers. We don't need to be changing wikilinks from a suitable target to a dab page in any articles, and ideally not for external urls either. In future, please take care to tidy up at least the English Wikipedia links, or just don't break things in the first place. Lithopsian (talk) 18:29, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

The link was not broken, it was simply going to a dab page. Yes, that's not optimal, but the intended article is still accessible from the dab page and the only thing is the minor inconvenience for readers in going through it; it's also likely to be picked up and fixed promptly by the diligent members of the active WP:DPL project. You could have fixed it yourself by simply editing the link: changing [[Lacandon]] people to [[Lacandon people]] (which I already did after you complained about me breaking your article). However, attempting to "fix" the link by changing the redirect did create a problem as the articles concerned were already geared for the absence of a primary topic: when you retargeted Lacandon to Lacandon people, you suddenly made the disambiguation page (and the articles listed there) inaccessible to readers searching for "Lacandon". I've fixed that by adding a hatnote [4] (which I'll need to remove after the articles are eventually moved). Generally, when changing the target of a redirect you should be mindful of the existing navigational pathways that may get broken in the process. – Uanfala (talk) 18:50, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Chikodi WP:RM/TR request

Hello! Just noting that I've opened an RM discussion on this requested move, since you contested it on the grounds of WP:COMMONNAME. You can find the WP:RM in question at Talk:Chikodi. Thanks, OhKayeSierra (talk) 03:56, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Xu is that your surname

Hey! Not much information from book and website how to code the citations. How long this person born??? Can you see the date???? Even if our Chinese read the book also some of the races can't understand but why you must want to know everything, sometimes we got our privacy. This is just the surname wikimedia no need to too complicated.

And please i put the Kho surname because i'm the Kho surname of Xu at Kho page you don't disturbing it.

Don't act like you have the position to wikimedia! Is your problem! Please make yourself clear. Don't delete my message at here. – K.B.Cheng (talk) 18:54, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

K.B.Cheng, for help with formatting citations, you can see Help:Referencing for beginners. As for the rest of the points you raise, I'm not sure I understand them. If it's about Xu (surname), you can ask Prisencolin, who's been involved with that article. If it's about Kho, then I'm not sure what you intend to accomplish with edits like this. Simply unlinking the name makes it impossible for readers to move from the disambiguation page to the surname article. Is that your intention? – Uanfala (talk) 11:35, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, understood the guidelines and also posted a issue in article talks of Diamer-Bhasha Dam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ganurap (talk • contribs) 18:03, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Pakistan Occupied Kashmir

Hi Uanfala, hope you’re well - especially during these times.

I don’t have any problem with the redirect itself or even the name, not to mention the amount of redirects with the word occupied for both Indian Kashmir and Pakistani Kashmir. My main concern is the fact that this name has taken place of the actual name for the Pakistan-Administered Kashmir known as Azad Kashmir on some devices. I’m not sure the best way to share images on this but if you have an iOS device you and search Azad Kashmir on Safari or use Siri, it returns Pakistan Occupied Kashmir and only does this for Azad Kashmir. I wasn’t sure what caused this but I’m pretty certain now it’s because of this redirect. That’s my only reason for the deletion of this redirect. Taimoorahmed11 (talk) 17:17, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't know how exactly Siri does what it does, but you can be certain that the existence of any one redirect won't have an effect on how the target article is being displayed (like other major articles, Azad Kashmir has several dozen incoming redirects [5]). The cause might be this recent edit to the infobox, which didn't get reverted until a day later. – Uanfala (talk) 17:23, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

I was too a bit uncertain on how the redirect could have had an effect, but I don’t think i’ve ever seen it come up as “Azad Kashmir” every time I’ve checked and I had checked everything else, that could’ve possibly affected the search result. In any case, thank you for your response, i’ll keep an eye out on it and see if it changes. Stay safe. Taimoorahmed11 (talk) 17:31, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Syed Kaleem Imam

Hi can I ask you about this article please? I moved it to draft because it is a BLP relying on a single source. I see you have moved it back to mainspace with an edit summary saying it's notable. It's not clear to me how this meets WP:BASIC. Can you tell me what your thinking is please? All the best Mccapra (talk) 09:34, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

I see notability as fundamental (rather than source-based), see the edit summary of the creation. You can ask the creator, he's done more work in this area than anyone else. – Uanfala (talk) 12:15, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Proposed feature to Module:Interlinear

Hi, Uanfala! I made a short proposal for a feature to Module:Interlinear. Could you take a look at is talk page? Thanks! --Benzenekim (talk) 10:38, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Trouted

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: YOUR REASON HERE Maligbro1223 (talk) 17:01, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Pahari-Potohari is a recognized language why did you change it? Please write full detailed reason if there is one. Nobody says anything about the Gurmukhi page.

It's about this edit, right? Feel free to re-add a mention of Pahari, but ideally, that would need a source. – Uanfala (talk) 17:11, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

And if you would like to move Shahmukhi alphabet to Shahmukhi, then please don't copy and paste the article as that breaks up the history. If you believe the move is entirely uncontroversial, you can ask for it at WP:RMT, but here we've got a title that has been stable for years, so it's probably better to start a discussion, see WP:RM#CM for how to do that. – Uanfala (talk) 17:16, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

I have given only correct information

I have edited a page recentlybon a topic jatts .I only gave information from verified sources of wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dushyant baliyan (talk • contribs) 18:01, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

The page you've edited is Jatt, this is a disambiguation page, not an article: it can only have a very short definition for each entry (typically a few words). If you would like to add more content on the topic you can do that in the relevant article, which is Jat people. – Uanfala (talk) 18:04, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Kardashian (disambiguation)

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User:Collebud88 in Colombia

The user wants to add ambiguous information about Colombia again. It is best to use the talk page to work on creating a version that represents a consensus among the editors but the user is still determined to add the information he wants. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Collebud88 reported by User:JShark (Result: ). --JShark (talk) 23:13, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

1. [6]
2. [7] -> That user does not stop reversing the editions of other users. And the user never wants to communicate with other editors on the talk pages. --JShark (talk) 07:14, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, that user continues to post controversial information and does not want to discuss his edits. Do you know what can be done with that user to stop him from making edition wars? --JShark (talk) 13:09, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

1. [8]
2. [9]

--JShark (talk) 13:12, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

An IP to watch

Hi Uanfala, perhaps this editor looks familiar to you? Needs to be watched in any case. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:02, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

That doesn't ring any bells, and it's not in an area with which I'm familiar, but the edit was definitely strange. I'll keep an eye out for similar edits. – Uanfala (talk) 10:15, 27 June 2020 (UTC)