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-- Natalinasmpf 07:46, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Testing

Testing 1,2,3... Vsion 02:08, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Yes I can see you passed the test. :D --Huaiwei 08:33, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Hi, glad to see another Singaporean over here in Wikipedia. Pretty new myself =p Melsith 09:42, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Great! I think we are of endangered species, or is it just because of now is exam period? Vsion 10:07, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Exams? What exams? Exams over loh.. woohoo! \O/ (prolly should shift this over to talk) --Melsith 01:01, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Talking about exams, I just came home after the last exam in my life in NUS. Anyone joining me for a celebration? :D--Huaiwei 05:43, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Congrats, Huaiwei! Enjoy your freedom now! Btw, can someone advice or help to prevent abuses to LKY's page? I have used up my revert quota already. Vsion 08:26, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

I dont have much freedom when I am not fiscally independent thou. :D As for the the LKY page, it is an obvious case of vandalism, so the 3RR does not really apply, and you could revert till kingdom come (as I have done before in the same page. :D). Still, if it persists, you can get it protected by nominating it in Wikipedia:Requests for page protection.--Huaiwei 18:29, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

So the LKY page gets vandalized too? Changing his picture to darth vader or hitler, I presume. I thought with all those 'wikipedia is communism' vandalisms these guys would like a dictator? -Hmib 22:17, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Muahaha...anyway whoever this person is, he certainly has plenty of time on his hands. Probably sacked recently or is in political asylum in some wilderness with nothing better to do or something. :D--Huaiwei 10:18, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

And he has been doing that since August 2004, he still can't get over it..hehe.... Vsion 10:24, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Think its time for page protection. :D--Huaiwei 10:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

and the anon doing that without log in an account (with no watchlist), let see what happens... :D Vsion 10:35, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. I got a feeling he will just switch to another IP anyway.--Huaiwei 10:41, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Hmm...as I expected. Btw, no need to revert anymore. Let the admins handle it. ;)--Huaiwei 10:47, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Good, i can stop singing my Romanian song, the poor dude thought it was Japanese foul words, haha Vsion 10:52, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

lol! I was seriously wondering what the heck are those words! What are they for?--Huaiwei 10:58, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

It is the song of the Numa_Numa dance. Be warned, it can be quite addictive, I wasted two days on it. Vsion 11:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Please be aware of the Wikipedia:Three revert rule. If the other side in an edit dispute breaks this rule, then as a first resort you should try reporting it to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR instead of rapid-fire reverting in turn. I realize this can be frustrating if the other side switches anonymous IPs and continues reverting; in this case, it's appropriate to ask for page protection at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, as was eventually done. -- Curps 11:12, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Vsion, in reference to my line above :"As for the the LKY page, it is an obvious case of vandalism, so the 3RR does not really apply, and you could revert till kingdom come (as I have done before in the same page.", do ignore it now, coz I have just asked Curps for a clarification on procedures in his talk page User_talk:Curps#Lee_Kuan_Yew. So take his advice above..not mine. :D--Huaiwei 11:24, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Curps, Huaiwei, Thanks for your message and also your prompt attention. I'm a newbie, now I know the proper response and will adhere to it. It's too bad that the page is subjected to frequent vandalism by one anon, I saw that a new user Djtotoro was contributing positively in it today, so were many others as recorded in the page's history. Hope they can continue doing so and not be discouraged by the acts of one anon. -- Vsion 11:44, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Politics of Singapore

Hi!

Was interested on the relevance of the sentence you have added with regards to the private members bill. Perhaps you would like to elaborate?

-Travisyoung 10:46, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

The sentence is quite a misfit to that article, I will move it elsewhere later. The bill is quite interesting though: it is the first (and only) bill passed in Singapore Parliament since 1965 (maybe even 1959) that is not initiated by the ruling People's Action Party. Thks and Good Day! Vsion 20:31, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

On a totally different topic from the one below, I have made a couple of edits in Politics of Singapore. Would you mind having a look and provide some of your valuable input? Hopefully this would help Mailer in getting the Singapore article up for FAC. Thanks! =Travisyoung= 16:46, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Wee Kim Wee

Do you notice, that User:Nichalp has the construction of Maharashtra? I allow edits in the article itself, but I want people to take notice of this sign if they may want to add information in the meantime.

By the way, I have created the Chinese version of the Wee Kim Wee article using by account in the Chinese Wikipedia. Go ahead and have a look (if you can read chinese)

Tan 00:08, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Vsion: no, I I should apologise — I was dealing with two articles simultaneously, and confused them as I was writing my response. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Nice work on politics of Singapore

Just wanted to commend you for your neat work on several of the articles of Singapore politics, and how you neatly bound them together, although what I would also like to see is further taxonomy - so there's a neat flow and a tie-in of all the Singapore articles, but good work! Also, I'm trying to work on the Singapore article at the French Wikipedia to, but I found that since I can write decently but not fluently, its going to be really hard - just wondering if you had any interest editing there. -- Natalinasmpf 15:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for Help!

Thanks a lot for editing the Chia Thye Poh page man.. you took Political Science before I presume? -Melsith 16:07, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Lee Kuan Yew

Good work on the Senior Minister section, and I'm not here to debate about the your contributed content, but I'm still not very pleased at the lack of information of the section. If you can, can you please try to add some more information? (I'm already having a hard time now.) Thanks!

Tan 21:53, 1 June 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, the section need to be filled up. I don't have a good idea what to put there, so I expanded on your input about the handing over of leadership, an event which I feel is significant. Hmm ... maybe we can added things about foreign relation efforts (he visited quite a number of countries as SM) and about the water dispute. What other topics do you suggest?

I apologize for removing your input on the religion warning without your agreement. After I post my comments on the discussion page, I waited a day for your response, then the "speedy delete" was posted on your userpage so I proceeded with my edit. Sorry about that. -- Vsion 01:59, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Dialects

Please take a look in my survey drive in [1]. Thanks.

Tan 22:07, 1 June 20005 (UTC)

Lee Kuan Yew SM

He stated so in his official biography:

From Third World to First: The Singapore Story How can that be incorrect? A minister could not tell lies. Check that out if you don't believe me.

Tan 19:34, 5 June 20005 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I do not understand which point you are refering to. Mr Tan 12:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)Tan

expressway map

Just to verify, the expressway map you uploaded you created yourself from scratch right? All it says is that it's GFDL but doesn't seem to say whether it was by you or from another source, which I'm just verifying (I'm 95% sure its from you, but I just need to resolve that small small doubt.) -- Natalinasmpf 04:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

For such an amateurish-looking map, you bet it came from me :P  ; I have updated the image-page description regarding this. The map is intended as a base map only, hopefully it can be expanded further and improved upon. Unfortunately, I don't have any reference on Kallang-Paya Lebar Expressway, otherwise I can add that too. -- Vsion 06:30, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC).

Request for help/clarification

Hi Vsion!

There was some misunderstanding between me and Huaiwei recently over my redirecting of Government of Singapore article to Cabinet of Singapore article. It started off from Template:Politics of Singapore, which you did a superb job of revamping. There was a link "Government departments" which was listed under "Cabinet", and linked to Government of Singapore.

My understanding of the word "government" was obtained from the article Government: "In British English, the word "Government" can also be used to refer only to the executive branch, in this context being a synonym for the word "administration" in American English (e.g. the Blair Government, the Bush Administration). In countries using the Westminster system the Government (or party in Government) will also useually control the legislature". I took it that "government" was synonymous with "cabinet" (since we do follow British English conventions).

In any case, I took it that you meant for "Government departments" to be something closer to departments of the United Kingdom Government in Template:PoliticsUK, since it was placed as a sublist of "cabinet".

I would appreciate it if you could have a look at Talk:Departments of the Singapore Government and Talk:Government of Singapore; this could potentially diffuse a very tense situation between the both of us! Thanks in advance for your help! =Travisyoung= 16:41, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hi Vsion!

Thanks for your clarification. I hope this matter blows over soon.

On a different note, I have had several inputs from various contributors (not including Huaiwei) about "government" and I agree with you with regards to the suggestion about Government of Singapore being something like Government of Australia (I came across it as well while the whole "hoohaa" was on at Talk:Government of Singapore and Talk:Departments of the Singapore Government!). The current contents in Politics of Singapore about the structure of government would be more appropriate in Government of Singapore, while Politics of Singapore would be more appropriate for political aspects, such as the use of defamation suits by the government, how the judiaciary is said to be compliant by critics etc. What do you think? =Travisyoung= 08:50, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)