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Sefeika D'Yoma

Hi Yoninah, Sefeika D’Yoma is a new article I have just written up (it is important to help understanding what Shemnini Atzeret is about in relation to Hoshana Rabba and Simchas Torah), please help by improving with sources and more information. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 10:16, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Yaakov Ades

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:03, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

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Take a gander at the page Uman it is loaded with hardcore subtle Russian anti-Semitic invective. They changed Russian Hasidim to Soviet Hasidim, in the modern Ukranian upbringing Hasidic Jews were behind Stalin, unless you know that you might just think it's bad English. But if you look at the record you will see it was purposely changed by a Ukranian or Polish anti-Semite. Then it blames multiple riots on Hasidim, again beyond crazy, first these incidents were started by the locals, and more importantly much more importantly it's not important enough to be on the page! Beyond a sentence at most. Makes me think about what it must have been like for the Jews living there what they must have gone through, throughout the ages, everything exaggerated, so they can never get fair treatment. The accusation under the heading "Conflict" is that Hassidic Jews get drunk and fondle women before "attacking" the populace. Even if those racist allegations were remotely true, would they be important enough to mention in the whole history of the city CRAZY!!! Compared to the fact that Jews were compltely wiped out of there at least twice, once by the Cossacks and once by the Nazis, you would think the Jews are pretty evil, reading that.Jhgtnlrs dnbtojn (talk) 19:45, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

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Yoninah, can I ask you to revisit this one last time? Tony has basically said he's done all he's going to do; you're the best judge of whether it needs to be closed, which seems likely based on your last comments. Please give it an icon based on its current status. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:18, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

  • Also, as long as I'm asking, Template:Did you know nominations/Karađorđe (film) could use a revisit. It looks like 23 editor did a couple of editing sessions, making some changes in the article, but has been active doing a great deal of editing elsewhere since October 27. It's been over a week since that last edit, so it's probably time for an update to the nom page. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:23, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

About the citations. There is a slight formatting difference between {{cite book}} etc and {{citation}} it is to do with the separators and the postscript. But the more major difference is the use of the parameter "refs=" by default it is not set and has to be set explicitly if the {{harv}} templates are to link to the content of {{cite book}} while the parameter is set by default in the {{citation}} template.

As to the linkage I think that url links ought link to the description of the book (eg the google book page, or the page title page within the book. Chapterurl should link to the chapter. If a link is provided to a page then it should link to the page. Now one can provide a link to the page in the short citation, {{sfn}} but that bloats the in-line citation when view in edit mode, so I think it better to place them in the long citations at the end. As a rule I normally only include a link to the first cited page as a courtesy and assume that the reader can fend from themselves for the rest. Here are two example of what I mean:

  • Shaw, William Arthur (1906). The Knights of England. Vol. 2. London: Sherratt and Hughes. --to the book
  • Shaw, William Arthur (1906). "Index". The Knights of England. Vol. 2. London: Sherratt and Hughes. p. 1 (241). {{cite book}}: External link in |chapterurl= (help); Unknown parameter |chapterurl= ignored (|chapter-url= suggested) (help) --to the chapter
  • Shaw, William Arthur (1906). The Knights of England. Vol. 2. London: Sherratt and Hughes. p. 15. --to the page
  • Shaw, William Arthur (1906). The Knights of England. Vol. 2. London: Sherratt and Hughes. p. 15. --to the book and page

-- PBS (talk) 15:07, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you!

Thank you for taking the time to review Homero Cárdenas Guillén and for the copyedits on the article. Happy editing, ComputerJA () 21:25, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Care to comment? Kind regards, --@Efrat (talk) 07:52, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Naming conventions on WP for the Maccabees

Hi Yoninah: Please see Talk:Eleazar Avaran#Naming conventions on WP for the Maccabees. Discussion: How should the original Maccabees, the father Mattathias and his five sons, John (Johanan), Simon, Judah (Judas), Eleazar (Elazar), Jonathan be known on Wikipedia? Thank you, IZAK (talk) 10:29, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

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Hi. My initial hesitation was due to my uncertainty about reviewing an article about a commercial product. I had explicitly said that I didn't have any major concerns about the hook. I'm also confused how you didn't find the figure of a month in the source I linked; it's right there. So the approval was partly based on my opinion and partly based on an unjudicious reading of your concerns; I suppose I had assumed that if you proposed ALT3 that you must think it suitable. Cheers, Oreo Priest talk 14:07, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Changing DYK icons

I used the "no" DYK icon because multiple entries have copyvio issues, so it isn't a tentative "no" or a maybe. I'd like to work with the nom to resolve the issues, but the articles require rewrites as is. Have a good one I am no longer watching this page—whisperback if you'd like a response czar  23:34, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

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Reminder to remind the creator of an article about an AfD

Hi Yoninah: I always try to notify the creator of an article when nominating his/her work for AfD or CfD as the case may be, using an AfD template such as Template {{Afd-notice}}. In your recent nomination of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eliezer Palczynski you overlooked informing the creator of the article i.e. User Rachack (talk · contribs) who happens to be a dedicated editor of Judaic topics whenever he can get the time to work on articles. Kindly note that on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#How to list pages for deletion it advises that: "...'It is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the articles that you are nominating for deletion'." I have now created a section on his talk page for this User talk:Rachack#Nomination of Eliezer Palczynski for deletion, since maybe he still wants to respond. You may not be aware but WP sends automated and automatic Email notifications to users when there are posts on a user's talk page, so maybe he could have gotten the notification via that route. Best wishes, IZAK (talk) 16:53, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Hook promotion?

Hi Yoninah, I'm looking for someone other than me to promote the hook for Beholder (horse) at T:TDYK where it's been approved but has been languishing for a while. I ask because the DYK queue is empty, and the bot is panicking (again). I promoted several hooks the other day, and will go promote some more now, but I can't promote the article that I nominated, so looking for someone active at DYK who can. Tag, you're it? Thanks Montanabw(talk) 02:05, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Yankel Talmud

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Gilabrand

Hi Yoninah, please see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Gilabrand. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 22:08, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

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Just a note.

Gilabrand's edit which you cite is understandable. It is not stricto sensu NPOV, in that it simply represents Israeli usage. There appears to be a lexical drift in the post-1967 areas Israel occupied. If a township is built within the East Jerusalem area, since it is, in Israel's view, part of a unified Jerusalem, it must be called a (cosy) neighbourhood. This extends also to Palestinian-majority areas like Silwan. If it goes outside the Jerusalem muncipality over the 1967 lines, then it may be called a 'settlement'. If you follow her citation for that usage, you will observe that this distinction is used.

the Neve Yaakov neighbourhood of disputed east Jerusalem.(note 'disputed East Jerusalem' is elided by Gilabrand.

The article then adds:

Yesterday, Olmert approved 530 new settler homes in Givat Ze'ev, a Jewish settlement near the Palestinian administrative centre of Ramallah, in the West Bank. Abbas has demanded a halt to all construction of settlements.

Compare AAP this

Although Israel's annexation of east Jerusalem is not internationally recognised, it considers these settlements to be neighbourhoods of the city. SBS News, 31 Oct 2013.

Any number of sources can be cited to justify either 'neighbourhood' (Israel POV) or 'settlement' (Palestinian/International law perspective). No one has ever ironed this out. But it is in any case not NPOV. Regards. Nishidani (talk) 15:12, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Your opinion is welcomed!

As I've seen you participate in discussion at WP:Judaism in the past, please weigh in at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#Category:European people by ethnic or national origin. Thank you! Liz Read! Talk! 19:00, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I will appreciate it to see your notes concerning my remarks in the Arab Israeli 1948 war talk page.

I will appreciate it to see your notes concerning my remarks in the Arab Israeli 1948 war talk page.

I am an Israeli, but try to be objective. I am the only Israeli regular editor in these articles, and the other editors reactions are mostly negative , as expected. It is much better to hear your opinion as well. If you are not too busy, will it be possible for you to comment in the talk page.

thanks Ykantor (talk) 18:48, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for the review. Please check. Repeated refs in lead. --Redtigerxyz Talk 13:44, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi! I've just added a photo. Could you look at the nomination and check if I did it correctly? (It is impossible to place the photo on the left side, isn't it? I had to mirror it because of that.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 18:17, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Avrohom Yaakov Friedman (fifth Sadigura rebbe)

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DYK for Downtown Triangle (Jerusalem)

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Community Kollels in USA AfD

Hi Yoninah: Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Community Kollels in the United States of America. Thank you. IZAK (talk) 05:24, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Neighborhoods of Jerusalem

Nice job with Downtown Triangle (Jerusalem). If you still have חשק, don't forget to look at the Neighborhoods of Jerusalem "to do list" (scroll to bottom of page). Regards, --@Efrat (talk) 11:13, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

-conversation consolidated at User talk:Atefrat#Neighborhoods of Jerusalem --@Efrat (talk) 12:26, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

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James Caudy

I've responded to your query here. -- Caponer (talk) 04:14, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Schwester Selma

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Yoninah, I was wondering whether you could take another look at this. The nominator hasn't posted anything to the nomination template, but did respond to your last talk-page notification saying that work had been done. I thought you might not have seen that, since replies ought to be made to the nomination template. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:07, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I had misread "bald URLs" as "bad URLs", not having encountered that particular turn of phrase before. Anyway, my mistake, and it is too late now (to do anything but fix the references, I guess). For next time, though, feel free to be bold and pull a hook from the queue yourself. There's no special qualifications for being able to do so, and it would result in less risk of broken telephone. -Kieran (talk) 05:36, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Fermanagh Mallards DYK

Thanks for the comment on Template:Did you know nominations/Fermanagh Mallards F.C.‎. Would it be possible if you could restore the green tick? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 16:00, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't see how being 8 characters over the limit is a problem. The rules say over 1500 characters. Also, where is there close paraphrasing? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:54, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
I have now added a bit more history on the missing years. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 20:17, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Can you please restore the green tick. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 22:49, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

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Gynning

If you could take a look at Carolina Gynnings article which I today completely rewrote it would be appreciated. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 20:24, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the review. I thought it would not pass but it did :) Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 16:33, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
I have done exactly the same to Linda Thelenius. But user Mandarax seems to not agree on that DYK. I have done that article a huge favor as it wasnt even a article to speak about before I did a complete rewrite. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 19:32, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Rainbow Loom

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Ask the rabbi

Hi Yoninah, I just came across the Ask the rabbi article and it deserves further improvement. I tried to polish it a bit, but it could use a few more professional references and touches. Thanks. Be well, IZAK (talk) 06:14, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ezra Schochet

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DYK for Ezrat Yisrael

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A DYK discussion

Thanks for your valuable contribution and support in the DYK discussion for Mersin Interfaith Cemetery . I admit that the dead link was my personal fault. I was busy in creating Association for the Support of Contemporary Living when I got the feedback from the DYK template and it seems I've mixed the references. As for the area, yes there are conflicting figures for the exact area and I got the most reliable figure from the maps which unfortunatelly are not written sources. And one thing more, it seems you used the 2nd source to add Armenians to the list of religions. Of course there are many Armenians in the cemetery. But Armenian is a name of people and not a name of a religion. Do you think it's a good idea to add Armenian to the list of religions ? Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 11:18, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Batei Saidoff

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RE:Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs

Yes, I have an Accomplishments page and every article marked with a are DYKd there. Lajbi Holla @ meCP 08:12, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Gleneagles Hotel, Torquay DYK

I've responded to your concerns on the Gleneagles Hotel, Torquay DYK. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:20, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

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DYK: Andrew Stevovich

Thank you for approving the DYK nomination of the 'Andrew Stevovich' article I initially created. Was a pleasure to see it on the home page this morning. Thanks too for all the edits you recently made to the page. All much appreciated. Xenxax (talk) 16:53, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Amy Garnett DYK

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DYK for Jermyn Symonds

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