Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/American Pie (song)/archive1
Awesome song. Everyone loves it. The information on this page is really good as well. —This unsigned comment was added by Ahummer (talk • contribs) .
- Oppose - This article is all about interpretations of the song. That's a good start (although it seems a bit overlong), but other important information to include is:
- How it was critically received
- What kind of a cultural impact it had
- Any interesting details about the recording
- Etc. For some really good FAs on songs see I Want To Hold Your Hand and (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction. Also, it's a good idea to reference all quotes. Lastly, the system of referencing leaves something to be desired, and the lack of paper sources will likely be a big black mark agains this article. It's a good start, though - keep plugging away at it! The Disco King 06:12, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- P.S. - What's up with the Madonna box at the bottom of the page? Seems kind of out-of-place. The Disco King 06:15, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- I inserted it after merging American Pie (Madonna single) into the article. It does look weird, though. Extraordinary Machine 16:50, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- P.S. - What's up with the Madonna box at the bottom of the page? Seems kind of out-of-place. The Disco King 06:15, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- Object. Far too many quotes of the song's lyrics and other (most likely copyrighted) sources; this is a better candidate for Wikipedia:Copyright problems. Additionally, there's way too much material devoted to interpretation (creating an overwhelming table of contents) and not enough on any other aspects of the song, as The Disco King said above. Line after line of excessively long discussion of what a certain lyric may mean (without being supported by footnotes), and much of it borders on original research by the author, e.g. "It is possible that "the levee" also refers to the name of the bar in New Rochelle, New York (now known as the Beechmont Tavern) where McLean imagined he and and his friends mourned the death of Buddy Holly." None of the references support the information on Madonna's cover version, and the inline external links need to be turned into footnotes. Extraordinary Machine 16:50, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- Object -- article more closely resembles fansite page than encyclopedia article. See Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:No original research to begin. Jkelly 20:34, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- Object. When I see a featured article, I shouldn't feel like I want to give it a major rewrite. I feel like I'd like to do that with this one. Carlo 02:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)