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Regine Velasquez[edit]

Nominator(s): Pseud 14 (talk) 08:42, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about a Filipino singer and actress who had achieved success in other Asian countries. I've been working on the article and expanded it, with most of the heavy work done between November to December of last year, at which time it received a peer review. I feel ready to give this a shot at FAC. All suggestions for improvement are welcome. Pseud 14 (talk) 08:42, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Media review

  • File:Intramurosjf0305_17.JPG: since the Philippines does not have freedom of panorama, this needs to include an explicit licensing tag for the architectural work
Agreed. Removed image from the article. --Pseud 14 (talk) 16:46, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • File:Regine_Velasquez_-_Sana_Maulit_Muli.ogg: what is the length of the original song? Same with File:Written_In_The_Sand_-_Regine_Velasquez.ogg, File:In_Love_With_You_-_Regine_Velasquez.ogg, File:Fly_-_Regine_Velasquez.ogg, File:Emotion_-_Regine_Velasquez.ogg
Done. --Pseud 14 (talk) 16:46, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Given the length of File:In_Love_With_You_-_Regine_Velasquez.ogg, the sample is longer than 10%. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:13, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nikkimaria, My bad, the song length is in fact 4:23 as sourced. Do let me know if this meets criteria. --Pseud 14 (talk) 17:23, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately it would still be longer than 10%. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:24, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nikkimaria, In that case, I have removed the sample. Thanks for confirming. The fewer the better. --Pseud 14 (talk) 17:36, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article has quite a few non-free samples - need to consider whether it would be possible to convey adequate information with fewer. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:14, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nikkimaria, Fair point. Got rid of the 3, I kept "File:Regine_Velasquez_-_Sana_Maulit_Muli.ogg" for the music career subsection where the song is tackled and "File:Fly_-_Regine_Velasquez.ogg" under Musical style just to illustrate variety in genre under this context. --Pseud 14 (talk) 16:46, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support per my detailed review at PR here. I have made some copy-edits here and there. These are my edits. Good work. FrB.TG (talk) 22:16, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

FrB.TG, thank you for your thorough review and input at PR. Much appreciate your support. --Pseud 14 (talk) 04:46, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support per my comments at the peer review, here. Nice work.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:23, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wehwalt, Thanks for your valuable input at PR and for your support --Pseud 14 (talk) 18:26, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "music licensing" I might say "licensing writes".
  • Done, you might probably be referring to licensing rights.
  • "One month before the album's release, "Forevermore", the record's lead single, debuted in August 2004." I would put the parts of this sentence in some other order, possibly, "Forevermore", the record's lead single, debuted in August 2004, one month before the album's release."
  • Done
  • "In 2005, Velasquez continued her television work as presenter for three seasons on another talent show," if it's three seasons, wouldn't it be more than just 2005?
  • Fixed, since the original season premiered in 2005 anyway, I took out "three seasons" to avoid confusion.
  • "The album, partly mixed with 1980s and 1990s influence," I don't know what you mean by "partly mixed". Is this a reference to sound mixing or something else?
  • Reworded. Was referring to "influenced by 1980s and 1990s sound"
  • "She appeared in Songbird, a weekly late night musical television program that aired on GMA Network Inc, where she was the main act and featured performances by a musical guest.[108]" probably needs "which" before "featured".
  • Done
  • "Velasquez did not fail to make up for the initial staging of the show." I might sub "cancellation" for "staging".
  • Done
  • "She was featured on Gloc-9's single "Takip Salim"[145] and in Vice Ganda's "Push Mo Yan Teh".[146]" I might say "as backup vocalist" or whatever she was.
  • Clarified as "featured artist"
  • " the performance earned Velasquez a FAMAS[198] and FAP[199] Award nomination for Best Actress."I think you'll need to ditch the "a" and pluralise " Award".
  • Done
  • "the comedy series Ako Si Kim Sam Soon, an adaption of the South Korean television series." series ... series. I'd find a synonym for one of them.
  • Went with "television show" instead to avoid "series" being overused.
  • "She dropped out after the 45th episode following her pregnancy and was replaced by Iza Calzado.[206]" I would enclose "following her pregnancy" because it is ambiguous otherwise.
  • Done
  • "One of Velasquez's earliest musical memories was listening to her father, Gerardo Velasquez, sing lullabies to put her to sleep.[9] As a child she enjoyed hearing classic songs. She would wait for her father's return from work and ask him to sing her the "old songs" he knew until she fell asleep.[13] She was drawn to traditional songs instead of nursery rhymes because of this routine." Since you mention a good part of this early in the biographical section, I would consider shortening it a bit, especially where there is duplication.
  • Trimmed. Removed duplicate sentences covered in the 'Early life' section.
Will finish within the next couple of days. Sorry about the delay.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:07, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Wehwalt, thank you. I have done these things as per my comments. --Pseud 14 (talk) 12:27, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Just a few more.
  • "Velasquez is often regarded as one of Filipino music's most influential voices.[223][224]" wouldn't this be better under "Legacy"? I would suggest calling that section "Influence" btw. She's a bit young for a legacy.
  • Done for both. Changed to "Influence"
  • "On August 8, 2010, the couple announced their engagement,[267][268] and in December 2010 the couple married in Nasugbu, Batangas.[269] " I might cut the year repeat.
  • Done
  • The two sentences in the first paragraph of "Honors" seem inconsistent in whether the serial comma is used.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:41, 26 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done. Did not use serial comma(s) in this article. This should be consistent now.
Wehwalt, thank you for your additional comments. They have all been addressed. --Pseud 14 (talk) 09:05, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Ceranthor[edit]

As promised, I'll do my best to post some comments within the next few days. ceranthor 23:13, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • "She attended pre-school and elementary at the Central School of Hinundayan.[10] " - think this should be elementary school; think you're missing a word
Fixed
  • "Despite the attempt to launch her music career, the single was commercially unsuccessful." - why despite? I'd just nix the first half of the sentence here
Done
  • "While she was rehearsing for the live show, the producer and talent manager, Ronnie Henares showed interest and signed her." - No comma needed after manager
Done
  • Careful with the serial comma; it looks like you mostly avoid using it, so stay consistent throughout
Fixed for consistency in the article
  • "marketing her as representing East Asian popular music because of its financial success." - this is clunky; reword
Reworded
  • " Velasquez appeared as host with Ogie Alcasid on the television program " - needs a "the"; also wouldn't this make her a co-host rather than just a host?
You're right, she is a co-host. Fixed
  • "To coincide with the film's theatrical run, "You Are My Song", was released as the soundtrack's lead single.[176]" - don't think the commas are necessary
Done
  • "Velasquez continued to play the lead in 1998, the comedy fantasy film Honey Nasa Langit Na Ba Ako as Janno Gibbs' fiancé,[172] and the romantic comedy Dahil May Isang Ikaw with Aga Muhlach.[178]" - missing a word after 1998... maybe appearing?
Added
  • "Her first television lead role came in 2000 in an episode of the IBC-13's weekly drama series Habang May Buhay, playing Piolo Pascual's cancer-stricken love interest.[172]" - this seems disjointed as its own paragraph
Fixed. Included as part of the second paragraph
  • "Velasquez also voiced the animated film Urduja (2008)" - voiced the entire film, or voiced a character?
Voiced the 'eponymous character'. Fixed
  • "Velasquez is often regarded as one of Filipino music's most influential voices and for her use of vocal belting." - Think this should be reworded so that there's not a split between "regarded as one of..." and regarded "for her..."
Reworded, moved the latter (vocal belting) to the second sentence for flow.
  • "described her "legitimacy" as "enough to secure a space in pop culture," and her musical career that "continues to influence generations of OPM patrons and songbird wannabes up to this day,"[219]" - Think you're missing words before "and her musical career"
Reworded
  • WP:NBSPs need a bit of cleanup in the article.
Done as per these series of edits

Overall, this is very well-written and engaging. Excellent work. Support, once my comments are addressed. ceranthor 22:29, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ceranthor, thank you for your comments and edits. I have addressed those accordingly. --Pseud 14 (talk) 12:08, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from SchroCat[edit]

  • 'Regine' should be as "Regine'"
    • Done
  • 'AllMusic's David Gonzales praised it as "an even better album", but criticized the record for being very similar to the formula used on Listen Without Prejudice." ' There's an extra " at the end from somewhere
    • Fixed
  • There are a lot of breaches in WP:LQ: I fixed some, but it's best to go through and check the rest
  • "The album sold more than 120,000 copies": the subject of the previous sentence is Survivor, so best put "Drawn sold more than..."
    • Done
  • New Strait Times should be New Straits Times
    • Fixed
  • You use a mix of emdashes and endashes, which should be made consistent
    • Fixed for consistency. I used the html code just to be certain.

Done to the start of "2013–present": more to follow. - SchroCat (talk) 23:05, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

SchroCat, thank you for your comments and edits. I have done those things. Look forward to rest of your review. --Pseud 14 (talk) 09:05, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • No, no more to follow: I made a couple of tweaks to some WP:LQ slips you'd missed, but the rest is all good.
  • Support on prose: I have never heard of the subject before, so can't comment on completeness of coverage, etc, but as far as I can judge, this fits the FA criteria. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 08:31, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Coord notes[edit]

  • Unless I missed it we'll need someone to perform a source review for formatting and reliability.
  • Also, Pseud 14, if I'm right in gathering that this will be your first FA if successful, we'll need a spotcheck of sources for accurate use and avoidance of plagiarism or close paraphrasing (a hoop through which we ask all first-timers to jump).

Both the above can be requested at the top of WT:FAC, unless any of the current reviewers would like to undertake. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:10, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Rose, thank you for your note. Would very much look forward to a review of the sources. I did put it up at the WT:FAC for a source review request. Cheers! --Pseud 14 (talk) 06:18, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I missed that -- tks, I've added the spotcheck request myself. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:21, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Ian Rose, much appreciated. Cheers! --Pseud 14 (talk) 06:25, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Aoba47[edit]

  • For this part “In the first of these she”, please add a comma between “these” and “she”.
  • Done
  • A clarification question for this part (In the first of these she appeared in a featured episode portraying a mentally challenged woman). Does she play the mentally challenged woman in the episode? If so I would rephrase it to the following “she appeared as a mentally challenged woman in a featured episode”, as I originally read the current wording as the episode portraying (i.e. featuring) this type of character.
  • You're right she does. I reworded as suggested. Thanks!
  • For this part (At age four Velasquez), I believe a comma is necessary between “four” and “Velasquez”.
  • Done
  • For this part (particularly in music), I do not think the “in” is necessary.
  • Done
  • For this part (Under Henares' management Velasquez), I believe a comma is necessary after “management”.
  • Done
  • For this part (AllMusic called the album), I would cite the reviewer in the prose.
  • Done
  • For this part (Critical reception of the show was generally enthusiastic with music critics complimenting), I would revise it to avoid the “with” + “-ing” verb construction as I think that is discouraged for FAs.
  • Reworded
  • For this part (Allmusic's David Gonzales heralded), it should be “AllMusic”.
  • Fixed
  • For this part (and performed alongside Mandy Moore to promote the theatrical release of the latter's film), could you identify what song they performed together?
  • Song title added ("Cry")
  • Is divadevotee.com really a reliable source? I do not think so, but I would be more than happy to hear your opinion and be convinced otherwise.
  • I believe you're right so I removed any usage of that source and reworded the structure of the lead sentence.
  • For this (Allmusic described her timbre), it should be “AllMusic”.
  • Done
  • Philippine Daily Inquirer is linked a few times in the article.
  • Unlinked.
  • For this part (Referred to as Asia's songbird,), please clarify who refers to her as this. Is it critics, fans, the singer herself?
  • Clarified (by critics)

Wonderful work with this article. It was very informative as I have never heard of this individual prior to reading it. I will definitely have to check out her music, as her style seems to perfectly fit with my personal taste in music. Once my comments are addressed, I will be more than happy to support this for promotion. Hats off to you for handling all of this work! I would greatly appreciate it if you could provide some comments on my current FAC (Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/All Souls (TV series)/archive1) if possible. Either way, I hope you are having a wonderful week so far! Aoba47 (talk) 03:21, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Aoba47, thanks for your time in reviewing. I have addressed the above as mentioned in my comments. I'm delighted that you found interest in her music, I'm pretty sure you'll enjoy it. I'd be more than happy to have a look at your FAC too. You have a wonderful week likewise. Cheers! --Pseud 14 (talk) 06:14, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for addressing everything! I support this for promotion. Aoba47 (talk) 10:52, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Aoba47 much appreciate your support. Cheers! --Pseud 14 (talk) 12:43, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Source review Lingzhi[edit]

  • I'm running the links checker... all links look good.
  • since you are presumably familiar with all these links, you can help out proactively by finding those that point to sources written in Tagalog (for example, this one)and adding |language=. If you translated any of the titles into English, the title should be left as the original Tagalog, and you should add the English translation as |trans-title=.
  • Fixed
  • What makes oocities reliable? and tripod ?
the tripod links to an archive article indicating the newspaper it was taken from (PDI = Philippine Daily Inqquirer). Nevetheless, I have removed both of the links.
  • "Video clip > Velasquez on pursuing an international career" is translated very sparsely; therefore, How reliable is this source for information? Where is she speaking, and when? Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 14:49, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This was from a bloggers/moderators conference for her website in December 2009 in Quezon City, but I've removed this and replaced with a much reliable source.

While establishing her career in music, Velasquez ventured into film with a lead role in Wanted Perfect Mother in 1996. Given its positive public reception, she continued to garner female leads in romantic comedies such as Kailangan Ko'y Ikaw (2000) and Pangako Ikaw Lang (2001) -- the latter was the highest-grossing film of 2001. She also had success in television with the shows Maalaala Mo Kaya (2002), Forever in My Heart (2004), Diva (2010), and Poor Señorita (2016).

This wp article has:

Velasquez ventured into film with a lead role in Wanted Perfect Mother (1996). She continued to play female lead roles in romantic comedy films — including Kailangan Ko'y Ikaw (2000) and Pangako Ikaw Lang (2001), with the latter being the highest-grossing Filipino film in 2001. She has also been successful in television with the shows Maalaala Mo Kaya (2002), Forever In My Heart (2004), Diva (2010) and Poor Señorita (2016).

Apple Itunes has:

In 2002, Reigne earned Velasquez an MTV Asia Award nomination. She eventually won its inaugural award for Favorite Artist: Philippines. That same year, she hosted the first season of the Philippines' own version of the British talent show Star for a Night. Velasquez's own TV special, One Night with Regine, was a fund-raiser for social welfare organization and won Best Musical Program at the seventh Asian Television Awards. In 2004 and 2006, she reverted to her earlier style of delivering her own versions of songs by other artists on Covers, Vol. 1 and Covers, Vol. 2. In 2008, Velasquez signed a recording contract with Universal. Low Key, her label debut, was released in November.

...compare with wp:

In 2002, Reigne earned Velasquez a MTV Asia Award nomination.[82] She won the inaugural award for Favorite Artist Philippines and performed "Cry" alongside Mandy Moore to promote the theatrical release of the latter's film, A Walk to Remember (2002).[83][84] In that same year, Velasquez hosted the first season of Star for a Night, a format based on the British talent show of the same name.[85] ... On April 26, 2002, Velasquez headlined One Night with Regine at the National Museum of the Philippines.[87] The show was a fundraiser in partnership with the Bantay Bata Foundation, a social welfare organization of media conglomerate ABS-CBN.[88] ... Later that year, One Night with Regine won Best Musical Program at the 7th Asian Television Awards.[89]

 Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 16:23, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lingzhi, just another additional comment. This was the first version of this section back in 11 November 2017 while I was working on the article. At that point, part of the process of improving the article was the inclusion of album reviews from AllMusic. During which time, the subject's AllMusic biography section never existed (didn't have content), as opposed to how it currently stands. There definitely is no edit history that could vouch for that in AllMusic, but I was constantly visiting the site while the article was being expanded whenever an album review needs to be cited and Thom Jurek has not reviewed a single album of the subject, which makes his familiarity of the subject questionable (in my opinion). I am not in any way discrediting Thom Jurek and his work for AllMusic, however, I am certain (based on what I have checked in AllMusic) that the author may not even be aware of the subject to the extent that was written, which would make it highly impossible that the WP version was ripped from it, as I know for a fact that there have been blatant use of WP entries being written into websites online. Do let me know if these have addressed your concerns. --Pseud 14 (talk) 13:53, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just a point a wanted to highlight: as an editor who knows the subject and has an aim of putting an article to FAC, the very last thing I would do is rip off a big chunk of work from something that already exists. The article has undergone work for several months late last year and has been extensively elaborated, which makes no sense (in my humble opinion) for me to copy work from someone. I understand the burden of proof is on the nominator/editor (me). --Pseud 14 (talk) 13:53, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, on close paraphrase, with red flags also going up with respect to unreliability of Internet resources. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 16:46, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Lingzhi, thank you for your review. As per results of your copyvio tool, these aren't paraphrases and were written during the time that I was working on the article late November-December 2017. I was also surprised that these appeared in both Itunes and AllMusic. So on the above mentioned, I am confident that the wp version came before what appeared in Allmusic and Itunes. Other than mentioned I only have a copy kept in my drive on the structure while I was doing it. For certainty, that's my only means of proof that the WP version came before the AllMusic and Itunes article and was not paraphrased into the WP version. This was how the lead section looked at the time when I revised it and changes were made during the time when the article was peer reviewed. Do let me know if there's anything needed to clarify. Cheers! --Pseud 14 (talk) 18:05, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note to FAC coordinator: I looked for a date of any kind on the iTunes page in question (looked at page source too) but found nothing. I also looked at the Wayback page for the iTunes article, and the earliest archive date was very recent (JAN. this year IIRC). I don't know if that's conclusive proof that the page is new, but at least it doesn't disprove the nominator's assertions. I dunno if a staff writer for AllMusic (Thom Jurek) would risk his job by ripping off Wikipedia, but maybe he would. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 14:49, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for looking into it Lingzhi, appreciate your time. I did some cross-checking too and looked at an archive at the Wayback page for one of her albums in iTunes. This archive is dated November 27, 2017. If you compare it to this current page of the same album in iTunes, you'll find a difference since the November archive did not contain an 'About' section with the article by Thom Jurek. You'll only see a section called 'More by Regine Velasquez' that only detailed her country of origin and date of birth on the archive as opposed to the current page. If you review the article history with the WP version dated November 27, 2017, you'll find it already had that structure written into it. I hope this too provides additional clarity. Cheers! --Pseud 14 (talk) 11:02, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sources review[edit]

I've been carrying out a more general sources review, focussing on formatting and quality/reliability issues. I'm only about a quarter of the way through, so there's a way to go yet. Some of my points might overlap with issues raised by Lingzhi.

  • There seems to be an inconsistency in the inclusion or otherwise of retrieval dates, particularly in the early citations Can you say what principles you have applied?
  • Ref 2: Can you give further information on "SoundClick", to help establish its quality and reliability?
  • While it is an article sourced from different website, it was used to as a source for non-contentious claims (i.e. siblings). Nevertheless, I have replaced it with a much more reliable source.
  • Ref 9: What makes this (Regine Multimedia Vol. 3) a high quality, reliable source? It describes itself as "an unofficial Regine fansite".
  • It is an unofficial fansite, that is moderated by a team that has oversight from her production, since the subject doesn't have an OFFICIAL website. I utilized the source for portions of the biography page written. Nevertheless, these have been replaced with more reliable source.
  • Ref 20: Likewise, this source (Regine Velasquez Biography Page) says: "Please take note that this is a fansite and NOT an official site"
  • Same as above, replaced with a much reliable article.
  • Ref 32: What's the relationship between "InqPop" and Philippine Daily Inquirer?
  • InqPop is the Entertainment/Pop Culture section of the Philippine Daily Inquirer, I cited the actual newspaper instead of InqPOP.
  • Ref 33: why isn't Asia Pacific Quarterly given as publisher rather than Billboard?
  • From my understanding Asia Pacific Quarterly is a section of this Billboard issue.
  • Refs 34 and 35 appear to be the same, although formatted differently
  • Fixed
  • Ref 39: Your text says: "The album sold more than 120,000 copies and was certified double platinum" The source says: "Double platinum in Taiwan, 150,000 units sold in China and the figures are still climbing" – which is somewhat different.
  • The 150,000 figures referred to the Listen Without Prejudice album, whereas the double platinum certification was for Reason Enough. I removed 120,000 and left it at double platinum to avoid confusion. I know the clipping is a tad too blurry and required zooming in.
  • Ref 40: author missing
  • Added
  • Ref 48: Why is this source (The official blog of Trina Belamide) reliable?
  • Replaced with the songwriter's official website linked through her work/music history.
  • Ref 52: The main link isn't working. Suggest replace url with that in the archived link
  • Fixed
  • Ref 64: Publisher missing
  • Added
  • Ref 65: Not worth keeping. It's dated four weeks before the event described in the text, and doesn't really support it byond naming the venue.
  • Removed
  • Ref 68: The paper is New Straits Times ("Straits" plural) and should be italicised
  • Fixed
  • Ref 70: author missing
  • Added

Buzz me when you've attended to these. Brianboulton (talk) 20:35, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Brianboulton, thanks for your review. Let me know if I have addressed the above to your satisfaction and I look forward to the remainder of your review. Appreciate your time in starting to go through it. Cheers! --Pseud 14 (talk) 08:39, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry for the delay, I've been away from home with very limited online access. I've now resumed my checks and will post again shortly. Happy with your responses so far. Brianboulton (talk) 21:39, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a further batch, which completes the first column. How long it will take me to slog through the second column is anyone's guess, and you may have to be rather patient.

  • Ref 61: Give language
  • Done
  • Ref 62: Where does the source state which programme is being described?
  • I've added a new source that states the BBC programme as 2000 Today.
  • I did keep the ABC Australia source (although it's titled broadcast is 2000) because the page detailed the countries.
  • Ref 65: goes to an article entitled "Hipnotic Michelle"
  • I've removed this source (including the statement cited) as I couldn't find any archive of it.
  • Ref 69: What makes Astyle.com a reliable source?
  • Removed, since it redirects to a different page now. No archive available.
  • Refs 72, 74: "Reigne — Regine Velasquez" is not the title shown in the source - it's given as "Regine — Regine Velasquez". And what is the difference between these two, even though the ref details are given differently?
  • Apparently it's a mistake from AllMusic. The discography page puts it as "Regine — Regine Velasquez" from her 1987 album, but the content/review is about "Reigne — Regine Velasquez" the 2001 album. So the ref details I used was for the 2001 album (Reigne). Confusing album titles, I know. I hope this clarifies.
  • Ref 82: (Vive Entertainment) Link goes to a blank page.
  • Replaced with a new source
  • Ref 90: Clarify publisher - not apparent from the link
  • Wayback has an archive link of the actual article from Manila Bulletin as the original link is not working. I've replaced the source and put the archive url.
  • Ref 95: publisher details missing – who is it? Looks similar to 90.
  • No working link or archive available so I replaced with a source from Manila Bulletin
  • Ref 96: returns page not found
  • Removed. No working link or archive available.
  • Ref 97: returns error message
  • Removed. No working link or archive available.
  • Ref 99: returns page not found
  • Removed. No working link or archive available.
  • Ref 101: Give language
  • Added
  • Ref 126: Unsure about publisher and if reliable
  • I replaced the source and used the archive url from Manila Bulletin (from Wayback) as it is accessible.
  • Ref 132: The main link goes to wrong page. Replace with archived url
  • Done
  • Ref 147: Give language
  • Added

Brianboulton (talk) 17:35, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Brianboulton, have done all those things above as per my comments. Let me know if I have addressed them. I would definitely (and patiently) await for the remainder of your review. Cheers! --Pseud 14 (talk) 13:59, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator comment: Given that copyvio concerns were expressed, I think we need further eyes on this. I think the nominator's timeline of what happened looks convincing, but it certainly requires further investigation before we go further. I wonder if Laser brain could take a look at this, if he is around? Sarastro (talk) 11:48, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I can take a look this weekend! --Laser brain (talk) 13:17, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I intend to wait for the outcome of the copyvio investigation before completing the routine source checks. Someone please ping me when this issue is resolved. Brianboulton (talk) 17:28, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Additional source spot-check by Laser brain[edit]

  • Fn 33: Fails verification. I can't find mention of Velasquez in the section or on the pages cited.
  • Fn 35: Fails verification. The song title provided doesn't match, and the source does not support the phrase "marking her first musical collaboration with an international artist".
  • Fn 42: Fails verification. The source does not support the phrase "became a career defining song for Velasquez", it simply provides sales numbers in the Chinese market.

I'm going to stop there and oppose as it's clear that sources have been misinterpreted or misrepresented in the writing of this article. --Laser brain (talk) 00:25, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Closing comment: Given the concerns over sourcing and copyvio, I am archiving this FAC shortly. I would recommend that, if the nominator wishes to continue working on the article, it is worth bringing in some eyes to look more carefully at the sourcing. Before this is renominated, the sourcing must be looked at. Sarastro (talk) 23:30, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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