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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 17:27, 18 October 2008 [1].

List of New Zealand Land Wars Victoria Cross recipients[edit]

Hello, another Victoria Cross recipient list for your perusal. I think this meets all the criteria and follows in the wake of List of Zulu War Victoria Cross recipients. The New Zealand Land Wars is the name for a number of conflicts that occured in 1850–1870. So, here we go again, thanks for your time. Woody (talk) 16:24, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - although shorter than some of the other ones, it looks just as well formatted as the previous who-knows-how-many featured lists Woody has put together. Cam (Chat) 18:03, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't worry, WWI is 625 recipients, so will be considerably longer! ;) Thanks for the review. Regards. Woody (talk) 19:51, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - a well constructed and comprehensive list the meets the criteria. Although, would it be possible to increase the size of the memorial image? It just seems a little small. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 00:32, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done, the MOS actuall prescribes a lead image of 300px for portrait images. As this was landscape, I have reduced it slightly. Regards. Woody (talk) 10:10, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, nice work.-gadfium 05:34, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the ref fix. Regards. Woody (talk) 10:10, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support - The first paragraph is a little choppy, everything else looks great. I love the abiloity to reorganise by your preferred field. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 00:16, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:39, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support at least the List of Iraq War Victoria Cross recipients will be easier Jim Sweeney (talk) 10:07, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Support but a few things you could sort for me to scratch out that weak...

  • Is it "New Zealand Land Wars" or "New Zealand land wars"? I'm guessing the latter - so this list probably needs renaming.
  • Maori or Māori?
  • ISO date in ref 3 ought to be human-readable...

The Rambling Man (talk) 17:16, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In the Arthur book, it is all a proper noun so "New Zealand Land Wars" in the same vein as World War Two. When it is on its own, so "... the land wars were fought ..." is uncapitalised. I used what the book used (though initially it lists them by individual conflict.) I have done the other ones, it should be Māori by the way. Thanks for the review. Regards. Woody (talk) 17:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
SatyrTN comments

Two suggestions:

  • I don't think the sortability of the "Unit" column is useful. It's pretty much free text, and who's to say that Infantry comes before ship names?
  • If it were me, I'd put the image of the medal somewhere other than next to the table, for two reasons:
    1. The article is sort of *about* the medal, so it should be more prominent
    2. The width of the table is shortened, making the "Campaign" column wrap. It's just a visual thing. (I realize that this is simply on my screen, and knowing that everyone's screens are different.)
  • Other than that, everything looks very good - nice work. I Conditionally Support this FLC. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 05:46, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorting by unit is used on the other VC lists which have already made it to FL. Woody's been careful to entitle units in the same way, so it does mean you can quickly see how many people from a given unit received the medal in this campaign. THis is a relatively short list, but for consistency across the lists it seem sworth keeping. David Underdown (talk) 08:10, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What he said...! I have removed the image of the medal now as I don't want it to wrap, there is a large amount of whitespace on my browser which is why I didn't think it would be a problem. I don't want to remove the unit sortability because of the consistency element. This is universal across all lists and I think that some people want to see it by unit. It is an area of study. If you prefer, I can fix it to go by seniority of regiment/ships, but that would be a pain and confusing to some people. Regards. Woody (talk) 10:23, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support; you could perhaps re-add the image of the VC to the lead section on the LH side before the bottom paragraph. BencherliteTalk 19:13, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Looks to be a good FLC, Woody. Can't see anything wrong with it. Keep up the good work! Skinny87 (talk) 13:54, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

  • "Originally the VC was not available to colonial troops, even if under British command; this was changed in 1867." Comma after "Originally".
  • "The extension was made following a recommendation for gallantry regarding colonial soldier Major Charles Heaphy for action in the New Zealand Land Wars in 1864.[5] He was operating under British command and the VC was gazetted in 1867." What exactly did the major do that influenced the decision to gazette the VC?
  • "the British Army attacked on 17 March 1860 starting the First Taranaki War" Comma after "1860"."
  • "After a series of sieges by the British, a truce was signed with the Māori people in March 1861 where the disputed land became British-owned territory but it remained in possession of the Māori people."-->After a series of sieges by the British, a truce was signed with the Māori people in March 1861; the disputed land became British-owned territory but it remained in possession of the Māori people. Alternatively, you could replace the semicolon with "in which".
  • "In July 1863 the British Army and the Auckland Militia launched the Invasion of Waikato against the forces of Tāwhiao and the Māori King Movement." Comma after "1863".
  • "swiftly moving South" Why is "South" capitalized?
  • "The British pursued him across the country as far as the fourth Waikato defensive line which later became the border of King Country." Comma after "line".
  • I would put the general references before the specific refs.
  • In ref 6, is "230–236" the page range? Dabomb87 (talk) 19:56, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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