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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 12:25, 9 November 2023 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of presidents of New York University[edit]

List of presidents of New York University (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Ergo Sum 22:32, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

New York University was founded in 1831 and has had 17 permanent presidents. A fairly short article, this lists all of them. I based this on List of presidents of Georgetown University, which I had promoted to FL status. Ergo Sum 22:32, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ChrisTheDude
  • Mills seems to be the first female president - worth a mention if you can source it
    • Added a blurb about that. Ergo Sum 15:18, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      • unfortunately that sentence now doesn't make grammatical sense........ -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:32, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Any chance the photo captions could be made more informative than just the person's name?
    • I was trying to keep the captions minimal, since the list really should be predominant. I used the Georgetown presidents list as a template for the image captions. I'm not sure what else the captions would say that the reader might find useful, as opposed to clicking on the subject's article link and reading further there. Ergo Sum 15:16, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • In Bennett's note you use a full stop to separate two factoids, whereas everywhere else you use a semi-colon
    • I did that to separate the statement about his leadership of NYU from the statement about his other positions. Also borrowed from the Georgetown presidents list. Ergo Sum 15:15, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Think that's all I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:51, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @ChrisTheDude: Thank you for your review. Ergo Sum 15:19, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:00, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
MyCatIsAChonk
  • I don't love the current division of the lead- I think the fourth para could be merged with the third, and the third could even be merged with the second. Your choice though
    • I've merged the third and fourth paragraphs. Those pertain to rather transient facts, while the second paragraph is about facts that are structural and unlikely to change. Ergo Sum 15:33, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • The president recommends persons to fill -persons? No, people
    • I tend to like the distinction of "persons" is for multiple individuals separately and "people" is for multiple individuals collectively, but I realize "persons" is less common. I've changed it. Ergo Sum 15:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • The tooltext for Ref. should just say "Reference" since "Ref." insinuates singularity
    • That is the automatic output of the template and contemplates the addition of future references. Ergo Sum 15:34, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 4 needs a website/work

Ergo Sum, all done, good work! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 01:03, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@MyCatIsAChonk: Thank you for your review. Ergo Sum 15:35, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - very nice job. If you get time, I'd appreciate any comments here. Thank you! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:05, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support from Kavyansh[edit]

  • Do we need to link "residence"?
    • I'd like to keep the link to Official residence and this piped link is the only way I could think of doing it. Ergo Sum 19:33, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • For the empty "notes", I'll suggest just placing a em-dash: —, if you wish.
  • I agree with Chris that the captions should be a bit more than just the link to main article.
    • I've added the ordinal of their presidency to each caption. Ergo Sum 19:34, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 19:37, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source review – Pass[edit]

  • Not an issue, but I would have used "New York University" as the Publisher instead of Website.
  • Same for "ProPublica". Our article does not italicize it, we should really be using is in the "publisher" parameter. Kindly check this for other references as well.
  • " FRELINGHUYSEN, Theodore" - Why capitalization. Same with "CROSBY". Check for others as well. Even if the source uses Capitalization, there is no good reason for us to be using it.
  • "United States Department of Energy" could be linked

Looks fine on readability for FLC. No spot checks performed. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 09:25, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Kavyansh.Singh: Thank you for your review. Ergo Sum 19:34, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Quick comments from Sdkb[edit]

I did a quick skim of this article, and don't plan at the moment to do a full review (of the type that would lead to a support or oppose). But overall, it looks in quite good shape. The only two comments I have are:

  • I'd recommend using {{ref begin}} and {{ref end}} tags for the sources section.
  • For the presidents, I think it might be helpful to list their academic specialization (e.g. chemistry, international relations, art history, etc.).
    • The issue is that most of the presidents, especially the early ones, either were not academics or if they did, they had no academic speciality or I cannot find a source that says what that specialty was. Ergo Sum 18:39, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 16:11, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Image review – All four of the photos used in the article have appropriate free licenses, captions and alt text. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:24, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Promoting. --PresN 03:16, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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