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Medical transcription

Hi,

Can someone help me in giving the latest trends in MT industry05:42, 28 October 2006 (UTC)59.93.4.0

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Medical transcription. If you cannot find the answer there, click here to post your question at that article's talk page. If that doesn't solve your problem, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They'll be glad to answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. -- Lost^(talk) 07:51, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Use of articles from a counter-website

Can unpublished articles be used as reference as long as they appear in a website?

This seems to have happened in the Opus Dei bibliography where there are unpublished writings by ex-members of Opus Dei. See here: [1] the articles by Roche, John; and Miki, M. They keep on coming back. What can I do? Rabadur 09:09, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Policy

Is there a policy on seasons (read on I'll explain) or something like that, I looked but couldn't find anything. The reason I'm asking is I live in Australia, its Spring here now so our seasons are 6 months different to the US. I often see "due to be released in fall 2007". I can work out that it means sometime between September and November in 2007 but it takes time and interupts my reading (and consequently I feel less inclined to keep reading), not only does the use of season interupt the reading but "fall" is a very American term (not widely used on any other continent). It is a bit like having lots of very technical terms where the KISS principle could be applied. Anyway, I was wondering if there was a policy or guideline relating to this. Thanks. James086 ^{Talk | Contribs|Currently up for Editor Review!} 10:09, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

There is actually a mention of seasons at WP:MOS#Calendar items but it doesnt cover what you are asking. Perhaps you could make a proposal at the talk page of WP:MOS -- Lost^(talk) 16:07, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I'll bring it up there. :) James086 ^{Talk | Contribs|Currently up for Editor Review!} 03:56, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

How to fix Picture Vandelism

I am unsure how to revert an image when it has been vandalized. If anybody can fix Image:Liliane Bettencourt.jpg please do so. --DanielBC 11:17, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

The image wasn't vandalised - a vandal uploaded it freshly like that. I've deleted it and someone else has removed it from the only article it was in (we don't have a photo of the real Mr Bettencourt). Thanks for letting us know. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 11:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Images

how do you add images to articles?

See Help:Images. Dismas|^(talk) 11:57, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Uploading Images

How do I upload an image? I've spent two hours searching through FAQs and instructions, but have been unable to get an image uploaded properly. I want to upload an image to the Windsor and Hantsport Railway wiki page. The image file uploads okay WHRtrain-20060822m.jpg but the associated text, photographer's name, copyrights, etc. are badly muddled. I tried to use the sailing ship image at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Regional_Municipality%2C_Nova_Scotia as a model, but have not been able to make it work. Is there a FAQ somewhere that gives a clear example of how this is done, for (1) a thumbnail inserted in the text (2) a larger image linked from the thumbnail, and (3) a high resolution image. For example, do I need to upload three versions of the image file, one for each size?

Please help. Ivan Smith Smith9847 11:48, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

You only need to upload the image once. I've removed the curly braces from your text on the image page. Curly braces are used for templates, so the Wiki thought that you were adding a template. See Help:Images for more on how to put the image into the article. Dismas|^(talk) 11:56, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Ay Family

hello there

I just wrote an article about the above.I notice that the format of the article has gone very peculiar!it is still readable but stretches out along the page.

How did this happen?Can you correct it?if not can you give me simple instructions on how to correct this?

I should also like to cite references for the article.How do I do this?

Lee Brown —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Frglee (talk • contribs) 12:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

No part of the article Ay Family appears to "stretch out along the page", but if you start a new line with one or more spaces, that will happen, as with your question. (Also, when writing, please make sure you insert a space between sentences - I've fixed the Ay Family article.) As for citing references, please see this page. Cheers, Tangotango 12:21, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

No MOVE button

I need to correct the spelling of the title of a page I created but there is no MOVE link at the top of the page, even though I am always logged in. Apparently, it is in the "quickbar" which I don't have. How do I get a quickbar at the top of my page? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Iezegrim (talk • contribs) .

New accounts are not permitted to move articles for a small number of days. The MOVE button will show up in a day or two. -- Rick Block (talk) 14:50, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Meanwhile you can request for the move to be made at Wikipedia:Requested moves -- Lost^(talk) 16:02, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I've made the move for you. Dismas|^(talk) 18:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Removing "this is a stub" from wikipedia article I just edited

Hi,

I just added information to the article on "needlepoint" and I am planning on writing several more articles on different topics related to needlepoint (and linking them back into the article.

But even through I (and many others) have edited this, it still says that it it a stuf article, even though it is not.

What needs to be done to change that?

Also are there ways other than the history page to dign my articles (on other workds to make my contributions public)?

Thanks heaps!

I have removed the stub template. The template is there only to attract other editors to destub the article. If you think, the article is better than a stub now, you can remove it yourself from now on. The template is generally placed at the bottom of the article. To check your contributions, go to "My Contributions" at the top of the page near your preferences and watchlist -- Lost^(talk) 13:22, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

One of the things you can do to make your contributions more public is to list articles you have created or expanded on your userpage. An ever better way is to make them so good that they achieve a special status, such as being listed as a good article or a featured article. Note that you should never sign the article itself in any way, although I think you were speaking metaphorically when using the word "sign."--Fuhghettaboutit 16:59, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Copyrights, Image Tags

I'm confused about which tags/description to use for photos I'm adding to a new page. They were given to me directly by the organization that took the photos/owns the photos, explicitly for the purpose of being added to Wikipedia, but no legal copyright has been filed.--Shasta29 15:14, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Is the organisation that holds the copyrights/ owns the photos willing to release the photographs under GFDL? Non commercial/ only for wikipedia photos are not allowed. -- Lost^(talk) 16:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

The photos can be used, if credit is attributed to photographer.--Shasta29 16:14, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Well the GFDL provides for that, so it's fine for you to add them. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 16:22, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Just to be absolutely clear: the organisation must be willing to accept that the pictures be used for any purpose including selling for money or used in another company's advertising (provided suitable credit is given). Notinasnaid 09:03, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia on PDA?

Is this the right place to ask about how to convert Wikipedia into an open eBook format like Plucker (seems to be quite difficult because there are only Tomraider versions available)? Uffizius 16:45, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

See Wapedia to get Wikipedia on PDA. -- Lost^(talk) 16:50, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the hint. But: I don't find the download area. I assume the data will be uncompressed XML, which is not the best choice for offline PDA reading.Uffizius 17:11, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

The only other thing I can think of is this for getting an offline version of the wikipedia. There isn't any eBook formats listed so unless you have some conversion tool for these formats, you might be out of luck. —Mitaphane _talk 18:31, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the valuable answer to one of my questions. I still do not know why it is that difficult to convert the xml-text database into the Plucker format. Perhaps I have to do it myself to understand why it does not work. Uffizius 16:46, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

changing spelling of my name (Account)

I would like to change spelling of my name (Account). It has to be "Toleshwar", Not "Tolelshwar".

Thanking you.Tolelshwar 17:03, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

You haven't made any contributions apart from the above post, so I would suggest simply logging out and creating a new account. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 17:07, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

About the Wimperg article

While doing disambiguation work, I stumbled upon the Wimperg article, and something struck me as odd. It looks like an article about something which is not an English word, according to numerous dictionaries and even the article itself. I was unable to find the correct translation, if any, and I'm not sure how to proceed. I could not find a specific policy on this, but my instinct is to propose it for deletion. Your thoughts? --Pekaje 17:26, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure exactly why you would. It looks like a German word that got into the English vocabulary in the middle ages to describe an architectural component of buildings. How is that different than, say, deja vu? --Wooty  Woot? | contribs 17:47, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

You can look up deja vu in an English dictionary. I have found no evidence, online or offline, that wimperg has got into the English vocabulary. Try googling it and exclude German hits. You might find one or two hits at most. --Pekaje 18:15, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't think this is a matter of deletion unless you think it violates WP:V, WP:NPOV, WP:OR, or WP:NOT. The Wikipedia covers topics outside the English speaking world and sometimes, with absense of an English equivalent, a loanword is used. See Schadenfreude as a good example. —Mitaphane _talk 18:21, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I think it being on a bunch of Gothic cathedrals meets WP:V, don't you? ;) --Wooty  Woot? | contribs 18:41, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't know, without any secondary sources it might WP:OR. —Mitaphane _talk 18:46, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

That was my concern as well. There may very well be an English word for it (why else the almost total lack of English web pages with the word in it?), in which case I think the article should be moved and/or redirected. However, since none of my (somewhat incomprehensive) German dictionaries have the word, I'm at a loss as to what the translation might be. --Pekaje 21:11, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Ha, that was suppose to be a sarcastic reply to Wooty's reply. I guess dry humor about wikipedia's policies doesn't translate to well to text :) Try bringing up the topic on Wikipedia:WikiProject Architecture's talk page. See what those editors think. —Mitaphane _talk 21:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Question

who is the author of Wikipedia?

Almost all articles on Wikipedia are written by multiple editors, not just one. If you click on the "history" tab on the top of the article, there is a list of all contributors to the particular article. -- Lost^(talk) 19:20, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

If you are trying to figure out how to cite Wikipedia as a source, go to the article that you need to cite then click on the link on the left hand side that says "Cite this article" or something to that effect. Also, you may want to read Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. Dismas|^(talk) 20:45, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Work in Progress

I'm currently working on fixing the issues on the Warriors (book series) page, and it's in the early stages. It's inconsistent at the moment, and was wondering if there is a template I can put on either the article page or the talk page to let readers know that it's being worked on. Thanks. DoomsDay349 19:42, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that would be Template:Inuse. --The Great Llama ^{(now on editor review!)} 20:34, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah, thanks a lot! DoomsDay349 20:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem! --The Great Llama ^{(now on editor review!)} 20:36, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Pointing or linking to diffs in the page history (Moved from Misc RD- Q on links)

I dont know how to do this. Coukld someone tell me pleasw. Maybe with an example--Light current 21:58, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

You need to use the full URL. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 21:59, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

See my edit at Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Miscellaneous#List_of_chemicals_used_in_Tabboco_related_items. Also, this type of question should be posted at the Help desk. --hydnjo talk 22:25, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah thats what reminded me I need to know about it. But I cant believe you typed all that in. So how do you actually get the full link please? I ve tried looking for copy link locn-- but to no avail!--Light current 22:31, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Find the edit of interest in the page history, click on (last) for that edit then copy/paste the entire URL from your address bar or window. --hydnjo talk 22:41, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah like this [2] you mean? Haa ha! So easy when you know how. Thanks a lot!--Light current 22:46, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem, we're all here to help or get help. --hydnjo talk 22:59, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Image is not displaying, even on the image page

Something odd has happened to Image:Australasia--Schelfgebiete+Wallacea--RS02.jpg. It seems to be there but not displaying. I have no idea how to fix it. Nurg 22:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Are you sure you uploaded it? Your log is showing no indication of you doing so. It may also have been deleted as well. Nevermind, from commons. It shows up fine for me now. // Pilotguy (Cleared to land) 22:41, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I didn't upload it. Someone else did. But it's still not right. See the lack of display on Sahul_Shelf. thanks. Nurg 23:07, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

There are two images on Sahul_Shelf only one of which displays. Clicking on the missing image (frame) links properly and the markup on the article seems OK. Another strange thing with these two images is that if I copy/paste the title (from either of the image pages to the Go window I get the "No such page..." message. --hydnjo talk 23:40, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I can't help with the non-displaying issue, but the "No such page" message comes up because the image is on Wikimedia Commons, rather than Wikipedia. GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 23:46, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Both images have valid WP pages as well Commons. Selecting (clicking) within either image frame links to the WP image location. The markup for both images is identical (except of course for the title itself) yet only one image call displays an image. Is there someone who can explain what is going on? --hydnjo talk 00:07, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

The problem seems to be in Commons. The link that breaks is http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Australasia--Schelfgebiete+Wallacea--RS02.jpg/ but if I remove /thumb/ it seems ok. I know nothing about Commons so still have no idea how to fix it but maybe this gives someone else a steer. Nurg 00:54, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

tagging ur post

How do I tag what I have posted?

What do you mean by tag? Your edit will be retained in the page history, which is how we know what everyone has written. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 23:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

If you're after how to sign your name, simply add four tildes (~~~~) to the end of your post. GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 23:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Portals

Okay, I have noticed that there are a lot of pages about Bonanza, numerous character analysis's, descriptions of the Ponderosa Ranch, actors biographies, etc. Would a Portal:Bonanza be a good idea to link all these pages together and make it a easy comprehensive way to browse through all the pages on Wikipedia? If this is not a good idea, please let me know. Also, since I have no idea how to create a portal, if this sounds like a good idea, please create it and I will help to link all of the pages to it. ~Babygator23~ 23:23, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

If you can rustle up a handful of other editors interested in the topic, creating a WikiProject may be a better fit for what you're trying to achieve. This allows for easy organisation and collaboration, and means that if you do choose to launch a Portal in the future, you won't be stuck as the only one updating it :) GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 23:43, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, but might a category work better? ~Babygator23~ 02:15, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

You mean something like Category:Bonanza? GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 11:56, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Yep, that was it. It seems to work. ~Babygator23~ 15:50, 29 October 2006 (UTC)