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Why can't I make a article

Why can't I make a article. I made one before but it got deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hunter*97 (talk • contribs) 00:51, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

The article you made was speedily deleted, as it was complete nonsense. Wikipedia is not a playground or a social networking site. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

An article has to meet notability and verifiable requirements before it can be posted to Wikipedia. You may want to read those page to create a better article. --Hdt83 ^Chat 04:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Do you have assissted access ?

Do you have assissted access ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.9.48.222 (talk) 01:28, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean. This is the help desk for Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Maybe you saw one of our more than two million articles and thought we were the help desk for the subject of the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Template Problems...

If you look at the top right corner of my userpage, you will see that I have the Userinfo template on it, as well as the Penguin Cabal logo. However, they overlap eachother. Is there any way this can be prevented? Thank you!! Cheers!! Ninety^wazup? ( r t ) ^{sign here!} 03:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Someone who actually understands this stuff well may have a more elegant solution, but I fixed it by manually placing the code from {{userinfo}} and tweaking the right alignment. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Naming a ref tag

I've been trying to name ref tags because I am reusing footnotes. I was using the template from Wikipedia:Footnotes but I can't get it to work. Help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eliz83 (talk • contribs) 04:08, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. The first time you use a reference: <ref name="name">text</ref>; the next time you want to use the same reference, all you need to do is place <ref name="name" />. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:23, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

legal defense fund--Jammie Thomas

Hi, is it okay to for a biographical article to link to a site raising funds to help the person? I'm concerned I may have been wrong in taking the link out for Jammie Thomas. ThanksRich (talk) 04:27, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

If Jammie Thomas has a pertinent (notable) case and there are reliably sourced published articles about the legal defense fund, then you might mention it. Mentioning it to raise money is not permitted.

Reading the article, the most I can think is to look for creditable news stories that mention that she established a legal defense fund and cite the source. Citing the legal defense fund website for the purposes of raising money is not permitted. Congolese (talk) 04:47, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks. I looked and didn't find any such news stories yet.Rich (talk) 04:58, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

What is Projectspace?

I saw an election here. Someone mentioned WP space. I assume that this help page is one of the Wikipedia space because that's the name of the page, Wikipedia:Help desk. What is Projectspace? Some examples of those pages? Congolese (talk) 05:37, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Project namespace. The project namespace (aka projectspace) is the general Mediawiki name for the namespace which in Wikipedia is called the Wikipedia namespace. Thus Project:Help desk is another name for Wikipedia:Help desk. Algebraist 05:53, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

For information of namespaces generally, one may also see Wikipedia:Namespace. Joe 06:53, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Rearranging sections in an article

Hi there, I am trying to rearrange sections in the article Kuala Lumpur but there seems to be a problem which i dont understand. Under a level-2 headline (Demographics) there are four sub-headlines. When try to edit the section to create just one sub-headline, the result was unexpected. The Demographic section merged with the next section (Geography), and the Geography headline dissapears. See this: before, and after. Any idea whats the problem? kawaputra^torque 06:28, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Apparently you removed the Geography headline... unless I'm not understanding your question. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 06:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes i removed it because the geography level-2 headline is contained within the Demographic level-2 headline. Meaning, when i click edit to Demographic, how is it possible that Geography (a separate section) is also within the edit box for Demographics? So i removed it. But this was after where the problem started, ie: my original post. How is it possible this edit of mine resulted in some missing texts below. The text below does not appear in the article but appears in the edit box! Am i missing something? Hope i am clear.

==Geography== {{main|Geography of Kuala Lumpur}} The geography of Kuala Lumpur is characterized by a huge valley known as [[Klang Valley]]. The valley is bordered by the [[Titiwangsa Mountains]] in the east, several minor ranges in the north and the south and the [[Strait of Malacca]] in the west. The name Kuala Lumpur is a [[Malay language|Malay]] word which literally means "muddy confluence" as it is located at the [[Confluence (geography)|confluence]] of the [[Klang River|Klang]] and [[Gombak River|Gombak]] rivers.<ref>{{cite news|publisher=Asiaweek|work=Asia's Best Cities 2000|title=Kuala Lumpur: Growing Pains|url=http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/asiacities/kualalumpur.html|accessdate=2007-12-04}}</ref>

kawaputra^torque 07:02, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Just before that section, you added the code <ref name="wg">. That should be <ref name="wg" />, or all hell breaks loose. Algebraist 07:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

O dear. Just because of that?? Sorry, i should have checked 1st. It works ok now. Thanks a lot! kawaputra^torque 07:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Attempted retrieval of lost edit info?

Hello, I just logged on and spent three hours cleaning up, deleting repeated items, and putting everything in the correct sequence for the "Pete Sears" page. After I pressed save, it said in red letters I would have to try and submit the info again...even though my changes showed up underneath. I somehow lost the changes while attempting to get them to take. Is there anyway for me to retireive the changes that I made? Thank you. Pemburyclose (talk) 07:50, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

It looks to me like you haven't edited the article in many months, so is it possible that you used the preview, and did not use the "save page" button? Another possibility is that when you went to save, the database was temporarily locked, which happens from time to time, to allow the servers to catch up. Generally they don't stay locked for more than a minute or two at the most, so waiting it out isn't too difficult. Since I don't see any edits from today, it was not caused by an edit conflict, so I'm not sure what the red letters you saw were. Unfortunately, if you closed the window you were editing in, no, there is no way for you to get those changes back. Sorry :( Ariel♥Gold 08:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I just took a look at the article, and it is a complete copy/paste copyright violation from here, so I'm reverting to the last good, uncopied version. Ariel♥Gold 08:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Can i add my business as an external link?

Hi, Please can you tell me if i am allowed to add my business as an external link just on relevent pages in wikipedia? Thanks Sally —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ibetthisnameisnttaken (talk • contribs) 07:58, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I would suggest that you read the external links guideline. Generally there are very few reasons to add links to businesses, except in the articles about those businesses themselves. It would, of course, be easier to answer if you linked to the page you wanted to add it to, and gave the link to the site you want to add. Ariel♥Gold 08:00, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I notice you've added a certain external link to a few articles and have been reverted, so I assume your company website is linked in this edit The website in question gives sale advertisements for a company; it does not provide the readers with any additional and helpful content, so I'm afraid your addition is considered spamming, see WP:SPAM#External link spamming for our guideline on this matter. Please don't add the same link to Wikipedia articles again. Thank you, PeaceNT (talk) 08:24, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Jewish customs & Sting

I'm writing a paper and I was wondering a couple of things: why do Jewish people rip their clothes when someone dies? and does any one know the name of the song that the artist Sting sings about in the song, Dancing for the dead? Any one have any ideas? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.192.13.107 (talk) 08:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

You may be better off asking at the Reference desk (probably the Humanities and Entertainment desks, respectively) where general knowledge questions are answered. This page is for help using Wikipedia. However, the article Bereavement in Judaism may have some of the information you require. --Kateshortforbob 09:33, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Conflict of interest and requested edits

After a long (and, frankly, rather unconstructive) discussion about conflicts of interest when helping a colleague in our copywriting team correct inaccurate and non-neutral statements on the article about my employers (uSwitch), we agreed that further edits would be placed on the Talk: page and left for another editor to make the change.

I posted, on behalf of my colleagues, such a requested change on October 25, 2007. Similarly, both I and another helpful editor listed it on the COI noticeboard, in the hope that someone there might help out and make the edit for us.

Since then, one editor has mentioned that he was unable to make the edit himself because he was about to go on holiday, which is entirely understandable. Other than that, absolutely nothing has happened.

I am still very disappointed about the way in which the original COI discussion took place — with my perception being that the only editor seeming to assume good faith being myself and everyone else involved assuming that, simply because I am employed by a company I must be incapable of being objective about edits to that article, without taking the time to look at the content of the edits being proposed and with little knowledge of the context of those edits. It was all the more frustrating given that I'd given up quite a bit of goodwill within the company explaining the concept of WP:NPOV and WP:COI, that we were entirely clear about the COI and that we actively invited review of the edits to ensure other, unconflicted editors were happy with the neutrality of the resulting wording.

What worries me more, however, is that following "the right process" to try to get edits made to an article simply doesn't seem to work — in this case, at least. Nearly 45 days after first proposing edits that would make the article more accurate and more neutral, absolutely nothing has happened. Frankly, we would have been better served going to a webcafé and making the edits ourselves and hiding the conflict.

It is my belief that the COI policy currently does not work. The principles behind it are sound and wise; I have no disagreement with the policy itself and agree that it's necessary to have such a policy on Wikipedia. In practice, however, there seem to be far more editors interested in looking for conflicted edits and making sure no evil companies or politicians try to whitewash criticism of themselves than there seem to be editors interested in ensuring that edits are indeed neutral and balanced — a situation I understand entirely, but not one I believe is conducive to the goals of Wikipedia. In short, the letter of the law seems to be treated as more important than its spirit — something which I believe damages Wikipedia and gives us less credibility as a "real" encyclopædia.

So I have two issues:

1. Could someone please take a look at the proposed changes to the article uSwitch and either make the edits or leave comments on the Talk: page so we can discuss them further;
2. How do we "fix" the implementation of the COI policy so that it works properly and other editors don't suffer similar frustrations?

All suggestions and help gratefully received and, obviously, I should disclaim that these words and my frustration are mine alone and are not necessarily representative of the views of my employers. For the record, I do not work in the marketing or PR department of the company, I am a software developer who got involved in this whole issue simply because I lose lots of my free time to this awesome project to create a good, Free encyclopædia, and thus was asked to advise on how to deal with inaccuracies within the article.

Thanks for your help! — OwenBlacker (Talk) 10:41, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I will take a look in a minute, and meanwhile I will offer my perspective. :) COI edits are discouraged, but not disallowed. If you feel fully confident that your edits are neutral, not promotional and provide proper sourcing, you might choose to be bold. I'm not one to invoke "ignore all rules", but if your proposed edits will stand up to strict scrutiny then following process for the sake of process does no good for the encyclopedia. With your involvement announced on the talk page, no one can accuse you of being covert. As far as changing the policy, you begin to fix it by opening conversation at Wikipedia talk:Conflict of interest or at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy). (Personally, I'd open it at both.) Changing Wikipedia policy can require quite a lot of wheel-spinning, but if you are motivated, you may be able to make it happen. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Evidently, the changes have already been implemented. Looking at the history of the article, I can see your hesitance to be bold in this regards. Good luck with the policy revision. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:18, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Is there anyway to stop or slow down Sinebot...

Sinebot seems to think project talk subpages are also talk pages (not unreasonable), and is signing a subpage in the talk area that is being used to collect assessment information. For this purpose the edit history is sufficient documentation of who has done what (at least for now). Is there any way to tell the bot, don't auto-sign here?

A related problem. Sometimes on talk pages, there will be an edit conflict because Sinebot came and signed a previous post. On long talk pages this can be a real problem because the edit conflict causes the entire page to be loaded in the browser and memory is so clogged that editing is near impossible. Again is there any way to make Sinebot a little less aggressive?

Thanks, in advance, Egfrank (talk) 11:27, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

There are two ways to do this:

• On the page itself

• For the first problem, you will want to check for Category:Non-talk pages that are automatically signed. That means that SineBot is monitoring it even if it is not a talk page. Then establish consensus on the project talkpage that SineBot is not needed then remove the category.
• For the second problem, contact User:Slakr (the operator of SineBot) with your question.

• On your userpage

• You can also "opt out" of SineBot's signing. To do this, add {{NoAutosign}} to your userpage OR add Category:Users who have opted out of automatic signing, again, to your userpage.

• I hope this helps! NF24^{(radio me!)} 11:41, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Forgot password

I have forgotten my log in name and password. How do I get it ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.95.32.20 (talk) 12:11, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Can you remember an article that you've edited? If you can track your log in name and if you had entered a valid e-mail which is still current, Wikipedia will be able to mail you your old password. Otherwise, I'm afraid that you may have no other option than to create a new account. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

This is a good reason to give your email address when you sign up as a user. Spevw (talk) 00:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

showing a page on Wikipedia

--212.38.136.250 (talk) 13:24, 7 December 2007 (UTC)I just created an account for my company then I created a page. It is all about my company in Amman, Jordan. The name is PAUSE Business Center. But when I want to search for it in Wikipedia I cant find it. Why??? Please tell me the procedure. Thanks.

Adnan Hajjawi Amman, Jordan

Hello. Personally, I don't see any record of an article having been created for PAUSE Business Center, and I do not find a record that an article has been deleted under that name. (There are three processes under which mainspace articles are deleted: 1) speedy deletion; 2) proposed deletion (prod) and 3) Articles for deletion (AfD). For more information, see Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted?) If you posted the question under your logged in name, we would be able to look at your contribution history to see if there's any indication of what might have happened there. If not, then I would presume something happened to disrupt the saving of the page, whether that might be a technical glitch or user error. Personally, I try to save material off wikipedia before creating articles just in case. If you can give more information--such as the log in name used to create the article--we may be able to help further. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:51, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

help

I am new to Wikipedia. I updated Carnegie Corporation's profile and it says it needs to be cited and wikified. What does this mean? I am from the organization so all information inputed is correct. Help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.20.3.132 (talk • contribs) 09:34, 7 December 2007

Information provided in an article must have verifiable, reliable sources provided (usually as footnotes) so that the information can be checked by other editors and by users. To "wikify" an article means to put it into the proper Wikify format, with internal links to other Wikipedia articles, proper section and subsection headings, etc. Also: if you are from this organization, please be aware of our highly stringent conflict of interest standards. As a rule, with certain exceptions, you should generally not be editing this article at all. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:54, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Page doesnt show up

Thanks for your reply. My page log on name is PAUSE Business Center. I created the account and I created a logo and I saved the page but whenever i make a search on PAUSE Business Center it wont show up the information.

Thank you.

Adnan Hajjawi Amman, Jordan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.38.136.250 (talk) 14:52, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

The page you created is User:PAUSE Business Center. I believe searches ignore userpages by default, which would explain why this didn't show up. Algebraist 14:57, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

(EC) It is generally a bad idea to create an article for your own company, as you have a conflict of interest that would make it hard for the article to follow our neutral point-of-view policy. Wikipedia is not meant for advertising or promoting your product, company, or service. Most likely what happened was the article was speedily deleted as an article that consists entirely of blatant advertising for a company, product, or group. All articles must satisfy Wikipedia's notability policy and have reliable, independent sources to verify them. If your company is notable enough, then there will be someone unaffiliated with the company who will create the article. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 15:01, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

How do I edit the page name

Currently the page is listed as Chicago gourmet steaks

I would like to capitolize the "g" in gourmet and the "s" in steaks. Is there any way to do this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgsteaks (talk • contribs) 16:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes. You go to the "Move" tab at the top of Chicago gourmet steaks, and when it asks, you enter the new title of Chicago Gourmet Steaks. Looks like your account hasn't been opened for long enough, so I'll do it for you. tiZom_(2¢) 16:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Unless your article is deleted! Then I suppose you can't move it at all... tiZom_(2¢) 16:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Problem with a template calling itself (in the noinclude)

1. Create a template named A containing the text: <includeonly>inc1</includeonly><noinclude>noinc calling={{:{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}</noinclude>
2. Save. It will show: noinc calling=inc1
3. Call A from another page B, as in: {{:A}}
4. Page B will show: inc1
5. Edit page A, change the number in inc1 to inc2, change only the includeonly part, it should be: <includeonly>inc2</includeonly><noinclude>noinc calling={{:{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}</noinclude>
6. Save, here is the problem - page A will show: noinc calling=inc1
7. Refresh page A, nothing chages.
8. Refresh page B, it shows, as it should: inc2
9. Edit page A, save immediately with no changes at all, it will fix and show: noinc calling=inc2

• If you change anything outside the includeonly part, this error will not occure.
• This really looks like a bug.

If you want an example see in my user page, the template (which I refer to as A here): User:Itaj Sherman/sandbox/X0. You can edit in the template, change the number in inc## and save. You can also see that in User:Itaj Sherman/sandbox it will show the new number.

This causes problems when trying to show on a template page how it works. --Itaj Sherman (talk) 17:01, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi Itaj Sherman, I have not been able to look deeply into your problem, but it seems like you are doing a lot of refreshing, saving with no changes etc. sort of things so maybe this could be some issue with the cache, have you tried bypassing it? (see WP:BYC) --Kudret abi^Talk 17:19, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

It is just the way the wiki engine is behaving now, and I think it's a bug. It happens on the hebrew wikipedia too. All the refreshing and saving I did here was in order to get a specific description of the problem, and I did. Anyway, as I said, the thing is that there was a problem already before refreshing, and even refreshing doesn't solve it. I think a programmer of wiki-engine needs to look at this, if you tell me where to report bugs, I will report it. --Itaj Sherman (talk) 22:36, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

This is not a bug but a deliberate feature. You may have to edit or purge a page transcluding a template in order for the page to "discover" that the template has been changed. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:25, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

It is not possible to require an edit for pages that transcluding a template, because when someone changes a template he cannot be required to go edit all the pages that already use it. Anyway, it is not where the problem happens. I am talking about a template transcluding itself. Which can be very common, because sometimes people give examples of how to use a template in its own noinclude section. Now, in this situation, the templates does not discover that it has been changed by refreshing (is this what you mean by purge?). And it makes no sense to have a feature that requires edit+save without changing anything just in order for a template to discover itself, it's not a teenage support site. --Itaj Sherman (talk) 22:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Let me explain specifically why it is important. Is also the way I found this bug. I was changing a template in the hebrew wikipedia. That template has in its noinclude section, an explanation of how to use it, with a few examples. After I saved it, I wanted to see that the shown examples changed and work correctly in the new way I planned them to. But they didn't change at all. I refreshed and they still didn't change. Then I went to another page that trascludes that template and there it seems good (in the new version). --Itaj Sherman (talk) 22:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

OK, I got the purge thing. It fixes it. So I get it now, it may just be a known issue that won't be fixed. But calling it a deliberate feature doesn't do it, I don't think anyone would say it works better this way. --Itaj Sherman (talk) 22:58, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

OK no, I read the whole purge explanation, and it is not it. They specifically state that the page that has been changed is "touched" and should be recreated immediately. This does not happen in this case where the template is changed and saved but doesn't discover its change where transcluding itself. --Itaj Sherman (talk) 23:03, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I tried, it updated immediately (not in preview, but after saving).--Patrick (talk) 23:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

You appear to have discovered the link I gave to purge. If you dont like calling it a "deliberate feature" then call it a known and accepted consequence of a deliberate choice. For performance reasons, Wikipedia doesn't want to immediately rebuild every page transcluding a template each time the template is edited. And the person editing the template is not supposed to go through the transcluding pages and purge them. They will eventually be updated and no or very little harm is probably done by continuing to transclude the old template version for a while. Editing a template which transcludes itself may be a little tricky and the functionality is not mentioned directly at Wikipedia:Purge. I guess the saved page is only built once, based on what the transcluded page (itself) looked like before the save. I think the current functionality is OK. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

It's a reported bug [1]. --Itaj Sherman (talk) 02:14, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

How can I put my organization on wiki

WHAT DOES WIKIPEDIA SAY ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION? Did you know that Wikipedia—the free online encyclopedia that anyone can write an article for—is the second most visited site on the web? And that if your organization isn't on it, it should be? Take a look at the entries for well-known organizations such as the NAACP and the American Cancer Society. You can edit an entry about your organization (or one you know) and you can create an entry for your organization if there isn't one already. It's an opportunity to let people know not only about your nonprofit, but about its constituency, clients, and cause. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SCIwoburn (talk • contribs) 18:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

• I don't know where you got this from, but Wikipedia has strict guidelines about advertising (we don't allow it) and there's also a conflict of interest guideline that specifically discourages people to write about organizations they're connectioned with because it poses a risk to the Neutral point of view policy. In short: Just don't do it. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:59, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Seems to be taken verbatim from here. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:04, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't actually the second most-visited Web site, but the English Wikipedia does rank in the top ten most visited sites in the United States (depending on whose data we believe). In any case, Wikipedia is enormously visible, and any corporation that fails to grasp the value of exposure here doesn't deserve to stay in business. Thus as Wikipedia grows in popularity it can expect plenty of public relations people to come here and try to astroturf articles about their companies. Note that as a side effect of Wikipedia's notability guidelines, we probably end up inadvertently promoting well-established companies at the expense of startups that aren't notable yet, in a rich get richer kind of way. In any case, if billions of people really wanted to read pages about every single company in the world, then Wikicompany would be (or be on the way to becoming) a massively popular wiki. --Teratornis (talk) 01:05, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

How to retrieve cite entire article

Hi, my article was deleted last week because of copyright issues (copied straight from the website). However, I am in fact writing on behalf of that organization, who owns both the content and website, but i failed to cite properly. I've tried reading all the help articles, but i'm still kind of confused (even my post on the deleted page's usertalk page was deleted). So first off, how would i go about 'undeleting' my article. Then, how would i properly cite my article? (since everything was copied off the website, would i just note that one website as my reference?). I still have the source code for my original entry, but i don't think it's too wise to try to repost the same article before coming here for help. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kcbroadway (talk • contribs) 18:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

You've got a few problems here. First, the deleted talk page said, "We..."! Each individual account on Wikipedia is assigned to an individual editor. We don't permit any kind of corporate or organizational accounts (what are called "role accounts") where multiple persons may be sharing the editorial responsibilities. Each Wikipedia editor is uniquely responsible for his or her edits. Second, the article was created and edited by someone connected to the subject of the article, in violation of our conflict of interest guidelines which seek to preserve our neutral point of view and avoid the insertion of advertisement, biased statements, etc. Third, the question of whether the subject organization is even notable (in the Wikipedia sense of the term. Read our guidelines on that topic for more information as to whether the group would even qualify for a Wikipedia article. If it does qualify, you will need to provide sources for the article from a more impartial set of sources, not from the organization's own website. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

• You're better off writing something in your own words anyway. Corporate websites rarely write in an style that fits in an encyclopedia. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:53, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not want an article about every company, but Wikicompany does. Also see Wikipedia:Why was my article deleted? for information about getting a copy of your article back for your own use elsewhere, and see Wikipedia:Business' FAQ. See WP:PEACOCK for the difference between writing for a typical corporate Web site vs. writing for an encyclopedia. --Teratornis (talk) 00:55, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

how do i delete my own entry?

i entered an article and i wish to delete it. how can this be done? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Efratmb (talk • contribs) 19:01, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Just go to the edit history and click "revert"! Put "self-revert" in the edit summary. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

To have an article you created deleted, replace the article with {{db-author}}. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Gift Article

Good friend of mine is huge Wikipedia addict. For birthday, I'd like to have an article in Wikipedia about that person. I know it is not compliant with Wiki rules & guidelines and would expect it to be deleted, but would like permission/approval for one-day gift article. No inappropriate or negative information, just short bio. Is this ever allowed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.91.34.33 (talk) 20:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

• With a potential amount of editors of 6 billion people, multiple people would be having their birthday each day. Allowing each of them such a gift would lead to massive amounts of work for administrators, so to avoid the hassle, there's no exceptions. Sorry! - Mgm|^(talk) 23:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

You can, however, celebrate your friend's birthday on WikiBios. --Teratornis (talk) 00:45, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Article

Can you tell me where the sandbox is?70.8.220.180 (talk) 21:02, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Sure. Click here and it'll bring you to the wikipedia sandbox. AngelOfSadness talk 21:03, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Or if you want the article on sandboxes and other uses of sandboxes, Click on this link]. AngelOfSadness talk 21:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Pics

How do I add pictures?70.8.220.180 (talk) 21:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Depends on what type, use Wikipedia:Upload to upload them, however you must select the correct license for them. The Helpful One ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 21:08, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

And if they are already uploaded then see Help:Images and other uploaded files for how to add them to articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Changing Username

Resolved

 – User has changed name to Ramanna.Sathyanarayana. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:29, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

I see the comment by PrimeHunter regarding Hornli Ridge account as

 Accounts cannot be deleted, but if you want your currently working
 account to be called Hornli Ridge without "2" then somebody should
 be able to rename both accounts.

I just need to change my Username from Ramanna.sathyanarayana to Ramanna.Sathyanarayana. How do I get my Username changed ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramanna.sathyanarayana (talk • contribs) 21:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

What is the difference between the names? ~ Bella Swan 21:47, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Capitalization of surname. It's a common and allowed reason for username change. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

You can make a request at Wikipedia:Changing username. Corvus cornix_talk 21:48, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

• Why have a dot between the first name and surname? - Mgm|^(talk) 23:19, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for all the suggestions and help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramanna.sathyanarayana (talk • contribs) 07:31, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism on page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Wolsey

Resolved

 – Fixed the Vandalism Problem

..Search for "Wii" etc. to see where... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.68.52.241 (talk) 22:11, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I removed the sentence on 'Wii", is that all the vandalism? The Helpful One ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 22:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

In the future, you can fix vandalism yourself, since anyone can edit Wikipedia. Just check WP:REVERT to see how. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 23:24, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Fcarolyn

Hi there I am terribly sorry for the 'copyright infringement' problem. I was just trying to get my husband on Wikipedia and get his name out there and his work, he is the sculptor. I had his permission to write anything from his own personal webpage, and he asked me to get his Shows and commisioned pieces in there. So I changed a few things so that it is not verbatim what his website says. I was wondering if you can please take a look at what I have edited and please consider putting this back up. It is my Christmas present to him. But if I must redo it if given the oppurtunity I will do so. Thank you for taking the time to re-read or allow the changes to be placed up for others to read, or asking me to redo it all together. Sincerely, Carolyn Faunce e-mail removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fcarolyn (talk • contribs) 23:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

• I'm afraid writing about your husband would violate the conflict of interest guidelines. "Get his name and his work out there" is usually another phrase for "advertise" which is not allowed in Wikipedia. Unless he had his work exhibited in a major gallery or something like that, I doubt he meets the guideline for inclusion (WP:BIO). - Mgm|^(talk) 23:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

You can, however, create a biography page on Wikibios. --Teratornis (talk) 00:46, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

I can't log in, (incorrect password), haven't recieved new password email

Login error:Incorrect password or confirmation code entered. Please try again.

Username vIQleS. (@)

Umm - what else do you need to know?

lx1 dot co dot nz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.138.83 (talk) 23:33, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

You don't Special:Emailuser/VIQleS appear to have registered an email address on Wikipedia. As such, unless you remember your password, you'll have to create a new account, although since User:vIQleS has no contributions, you may be able to get the name back via the usurpation process. Algebraist 03:50, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok - so i tried to register as 'viqles' and it said i needed to get an admin to approve it (as its 'very similar to ...') can someone do this for me please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.138.83 (talk) 09:58, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

You can try asking at Wikipedia:Request an account or Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations. Tell that you created User:VIQleS but cannot access it. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:38, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.

How do I delete a page?

My instructor, Sultan Uddin, asked that I delete his wikipedia entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grifter1358 (talk • contribs) 23:48, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Just write over the article. Bothsidesspin (talk) 00:06, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, you can't delete it yourself. You need to be an administrator. But you can put {{db-userreq}} on the page (without the nowiki tags). Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 00:11, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

{{db-userreq}} is only for userspace pages, while the article in question is in the mainspace. Since it's already up for deletion, the obvious thing to do is go to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sultan Uddin and explain why it should be removed. Algebraist 03:45, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

• We generally don't delete article because the subject wants it. He appears to be at least slightly noteworthy. Can you expand on the reasons for his opinion? - Mgm|^(talk) 08:55, 8 December 2007 (UTC)