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January 27

Where to buy?

Where could I buy a recording of the Vienna Symphony's 2007 Annual New Years's Day Concert, w/ Walter Cronkite, commentator?

 I'm looking for a copy on VHS or DVD.

Use Google. Xiner (talk, email) 00:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

If two people, by chance, edit the same page at the same time..

Say user A and user B both see that there is something they can contribute in an article. They both attempt to edit the page. What happens when the pages are saved? Will Wikipedia recognize that, for instance, if user A finished his edit before user B, that when B attempts to save the page, the system will reject the edit as the editing page was accessed from an older than current version of the article? Darkwhistle 00:10, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

If it's possible (if they edited completely different parts of the page, for example) then both edits will be saved. If the two edits conflict, then an edit conflict results, which asks the second user to integrate the edit into the changes made by the first. --Cherry blossom tree 00:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

But reverting edits do not cause edit conflicts... Kamope · talk · contributions 00:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Because when you revert, you create a new revision (3) that points to the same text as the original version (1), before the reverted edit (2) is introduced. Since revision 3 and revision 1 point to the same text in the Text table, there's no changes, at least in MediaWiki's mind, so there's no reason to throw an edit conflict screen. Titoxd^(?!?) 00:22, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Help page says nothing on watchlist preferences, I'm confused by "Expand" pref

The Wikipedia help article Help:Preferences seems to say nothing about watchlist preferences, and I'm confused about one of the watchlist preferences. There's a preference for "Expand watchlist to show all applicable changes". I've tried it both ways, I don't understand what that preference is controlling, except I've determined that having it un-checked seems to give you a relatively worthless watchlist. Can anyone explain this pref? Should someone update the Help article? Jason C.K. 00:12, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

A non-expanded watchlist only shows the most recent change, an expanded watchlist shows every change on a particular day. This is normally useful, but if you watch a high traffic page then it can get confusing. This page received over 100 edits yesterday, for example and I imagine that Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, for example, gets many times more. I've brought up the issue at m:Help talk:Watching pages and will update the help page if there are no complaints. --Cherry blossom tree 00:23, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Redirects from article space to user space

Are redirects such as http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=East_Prussian_Confederation&redirect=no allowed? AnonMoos 00:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

No. Kamope · talk · contributions 00:17, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

It was probably created unintentionally when the page was moved. I'll list it for deletion, if no-one else does first. --Cherry blossom tree 00:26, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

how

how do i edit wikopedia articles and save them so that everyone will see the changes i have made?

• For starters, do not make edits like this one you made here:[1] --Kukini 00:42, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Yup - you've done six edits - five of them posting juvenile obscenities to pages, and one (here) asking how to edit. It's difficult not to read the question as anything other than "how do I damage an article in a way that doesn't get reverted immediately". And it's not exactly clear why anyone would want to answer that question for you. -- John Broughton ^(♫♫) 23:24, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Radcliffe Camera

Where do you go to report vandalism?

A picture of the Radcliffe Camera was photo of the day for Jaunuary 26, 2007. I clicked on the link for the article and found this:<snip text of rant>

70.135.122.53 00:59, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry it's already been dealt with. You can revert vandalism yourself by clicking on the history tab and editing an older version (before the vandalism) Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 01:07, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Here's more info on reverting vandalism: Help:Reverting. -- John Broughton ^(♫♫) 15:53, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

"My Favorites" in Wikipedia

Is there any way to save favorite/interesting articles in a kind of "my favorites" area of Wikipedia? Has anyone thought of the idea to have a place to store links to wikipedia articles of interest, like browswer bookmarks or del.ici.ous, except that it would be right at your fingertips in Wikipedia: "my favorites", like "my contributions" and "my watchlist"? Cielovista

Well, I think you could use the watchlist for this, couldn't you? Another possibility is to make a list of articles on your userpage. For example, mine has a list of stubs I've created (although I confess I don't keep it terribly up to date). -- SCZenz 01:22, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try these options. But I think that would entail extra clicks... not ideal in terms of accessibility? Cielovista

That's what I use my Userpage for. Just link to the articles/sections in question there. Or, create a subpage (like User:Kesh/Articles) and link them on there, then link that from your Userpage. In your case, you might create User:Cielovista/My favorites and put links to your favorite articles there. -- Kesh 01:56, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Information on creating subpages can be found here. -- John Broughton ^(♫♫) 15:50, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Download

how do i download the optical fiber pdf..????—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravi047 (talk • contribs) 03:24, January 27, 2007

I'm not sure what you're referring to. Could you explain, please? -- Kesh 03:41, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

How do articles get indexed?

Hi, I'm new editing articles in the Encyclopedia. Have created a "stub" article yesterday and when searching for it it does not appear. However, when following the link from the Category where I've included it is there.

Should I do anything else to have it Indexed? Is there a checklist of basic, critical steps for creating a new article? (I've already read the tutorial)

The data about my article is:

Article name: Nahuel (Tank) Category: Argentine armored fighting vehicles

I used as a model the article on the argentine tank "TAM" (Tanque Argentino Mediano)

Thanks and Regards, Diego.

Hi Diego. I can see your article at Nahuel (tank), and any articles that you include that link in will allow people to reach your article immediately. You don't have to do anything special to get your article indexed. It happens automatically, but it's a little slow. It might not appear in searches for a few days yet. In the meantime, try to link your article from some other relevant articles. Unfortunately we don't yet have an article on the History of the Argentine Army but perhaps you can find a spot at Argentine Army, where if necessary you could create a new section for "historical vehicles". Hope that helps. — coelacan talk — 06:31, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Pictures from wikipedia in other languages

Is there an easy way to use images that appear in the wikipedias of other languages, or do I have to re-upload the files? Thanks! jamason 06:58, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

It depends. If they are actually on the Commons: and not on the other Wikipedias, then it's easy. You just use them here like they were already here. Example: This photo looks like it's on the German Wikipedia: de:Bild:Eisengallustinte Essenzen I und II und Tinte.jpg, but if you scroll down, it has the commons symbol and a link to its page there: commons:Image:Eisengallustinte Essenzen I und II und Tinte.jpg, and it can be used here natively: Image:Eisengallustinte Essenzen I und II und Tinte.jpg. But if the photo you want is not on the commons, then it will have to be reuploaded, if licensing permits. The best thing you could do in that case would be to upload it to the Commons:, so that everyone else on other Wikipedias will then be able to easily use it as well. — coelacan talk — 07:31, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

So many abbreviations

I have found myself reading lots of interlaced wikipedia policies and guidelines, and am frustrated by the massive number of abbreviations used, such as "WP:ABC". Some policies have multiple abbreviations, and some abbreviations don't go to the most obvious policy. The worst thing I find is that when I hover the cursor over a link, the little yellow box that appears just tells me the abbreviation when I would be hoping to get the unabbreviated destination. I used dial-up, so following links just to check an abbreviation gets pretty tedious.

Is there an easy solution? If not, is there something I can do to discourage the continued use of abbreviations like this? I'd suggest that any and every abbreviation should be defined on first use on every page that it appears on.

Thanks. SmokeyJoe 07:29, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:WTF? OMG! TMD TLA. ARG!. ;) But more seriously, there are an awful lot of acronyms and shortcuts. You can cut through some of it by seeing Wikipedia:Shortcuts and Wikipedia:Glossary, but the best thing, I find, is usually to avoid using the acronyms, or to use them with piped links describing their purpose, except for some of the very widely known ones. When working with people, and I'm not sure whether they'll know an acronym, I too recommend clarifying it, somehow. The shortcuts can save us all time, but they shouldn't be used too often, at the expense of those who aren't "in the know." Just my thought. Luna Santin 07:37, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Shortcuts? That's WP:CUTS, of course. And you can keep that open in a separate browser window (or tab if you use Firefox) while you use Wikipedia. Just switch windows and refer to it whenever you need to. That should save you time on dialup. Hope that helps. — coelacan talk — 07:43, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

aeroplane travel time

Sir, I want to know why the aeroplanes going to sanfrasisco from bombay takes more time while going and less time while coming back to bombay. r.k. mulay210.214.134.135 09:07, 27 January 2007 (UTC)r.k.mulay

Try the Wikipedia:Reference desk. — coelacan talk — 09:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

And we're not all "sirs", by the way. =P — coelacan talk — 09:12, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

For the record, it has to do with air currents and the shape of the Earth. The fastest route between two points over a globe is actually a curve. However, the dominant winds in the Northern Hemisphere travel from west to east. So, travelling east from Bombay to San Francisco in the jet stream means the winds are behind you, pushing the plane along. Instead of taking the shorter curved route, a plane can actually fly faster by riding the jet stream across a longer distance. Coming back, they have to take the shorter route, but without the jet stream to increase their speed, so it actually takes longer. -- Kesh 21:10, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Three citations for the article on Asperger's Syndrome

I would like to contribute three citations from the professional literature about Asperger's Syndrome and psychological type. Unfortunately, I'm unfamiliar with Wikipedia's means and methods of doing so. If I could get a little help with the technical stuff, I'll provide the content.

Thanks,

R.G.C.

To add references, place <ref> </ref> tags at the end of the sentence with one of the citation templates between them. Then place the <references/> tag in a "Notes" or "References" section near the end of the article in case doesn't already exist. All additional references will appear there. Michaelas10 (Talk) 10:03, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

You'll find a discussion of this at WP:FOOT and WP:CITE. Or look at an article with footnotes (typically listed in a "References" section) to see how it's done. -- John Broughton ^(♫♫) 15:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

C'mon guys, cut me some slack here. I'm a retired English teacher, not a techie. The references to WP:FOOT and WP:CITE may as well have been written in Martian. I have important information to contribute to the article on Asperger's Syndrome, but if I don't get some help, it won't happen.

R.G.C.

Do you mean that seeing WP:FOOT was confusing, or that the contents of the linked article were baffling? (Your answer may help improve things). Anyway, first step: have you identified exactly what statement(s) in the article can usefully use your citations? Notinasnaid 20:58, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

If nothing else, just place a message on the article's Talk page with the citation, and someone else can then add it to the article. Honestly, though, you don't need to be a techie to work on Wikipedia. Here's what you do:

Let's say your reference is "Smith, R: "Size of the Moon", Scientific American, 46(78):46." In that case, just put the <ref> tags at the beginning and the end, like this:

<ref>Smith, R: "Size of the Moon", Scientific American, 46(78):46.</ref>

... right after the text you're citing. Then, at the bottom of the page, there should be a Notes or References section. If there's not, add one by putting:

==Notes==

...at the bottom. Just below that, you want to tell it to insert the full reference citation:

<references/>

That's it. There are more complicated ways of doing it, which might look prettier, but that's the easiest. -- Kesh 21:19, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

If you are trying to provide a citation for particular facts in the Asperger Syndrome article, first, click on the appropriate edit button and locate the point where you want to insert a citation. Then you will need to type "<ref>", followed by the text of your citation, followed by "</ref>" (the quotes should not be included). For example, if I typed <ref>test1</ref> somewhere in the editing window, then after I click "Save page", a superscript number will appear at that location in the article and "test1" will appear in the Notes or References section (the Notes section in the case of the Asperger syndrome article) next to the corresponding number. Note that you do not need to worry about numbering, as this is done automatically. You can then repeat this as necessary for all of your citations. There are more elaborate ways of adding references, but hopefully this will be adequate for what you are trying to do...if other editors so desire, they can convert your citations to use one of the citation templates mentioned in a previous response. If you are still having trouble, another possibility is posting (either on this page or at Talk:Asperger Syndrome) the citations you want to insert along with a description of how they should be inserted...I'm sure someone would be willing to assist you. Good luck, and thank you for taking the time to contribute.--GregRM 21:24, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Honestly, there is one even easier way of making citations, which other editors don't necessarily like, but which is acceptable if you're having a hard time. If it's web content, just encase a URL inside two square brackets [ and ] to give you something like this.[2] If it's not web content, you can use the <ref> </ref> tags, put the information you want inside them, in a standard bibliographical format, and then contact other editors (back here at the help desk, for instance), if your references aren't showing up in the article. I hope that helps, sorry about the {{shrubbery}}. — coelacan talk — 21:35, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks for the advice, gentlemen. The deed is done. The most useful piece of advice was to place my comments on the article's talk page. I did that, and within the hour somebody picked them up and put them in the article.

Notinasnaid asks whether seeing WP:FOOT was confusing, or whether it was that the contents of the linked article were baffling. It was the latter. The confusion stemmed not so much from the link, which even a dufus like myself can understand, as from the information I was expected to absorb and use in the linked articles. It was just too much unfamiliar information. I have had bad experiences in the past trying to follow the directions to some digital process or procedure, and I could see it coming again. The slippery slope thing.

I think you have to remember the difference between help and education. If you're in a lifeboat that's just launched from the Titanic, and somebody still on the deck hollers to you for help, if you throw them a life preserver, that's help. If you offer them swimming lessons, that's education. There is a place for both, but on the Help Desk, help is more appropriate than education.

Anyway, help you did, and I'm Wikipedia's newest contributor. Wasn't so bad after all. Maybe I'll try it again.

Thanks again,

R.G.C. 4.242.33.32 00:03, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Notability of buildings and structures

I am also posting this question at WP:N for those who helped write the guideline, but anyway, the question is, what are the notability guidelines for buildings and structures? I'm asking because I would like to create pages for numerous skyscrapers and don't know whether they'd be considered notable. The points for are:

• Each of them has been a subject of numerous newspaper articles and received non-negligible media attention outside the internet.
• Each skyscraper in question is unique, but may or may not have symbolic value for its location.

However, it still seems strange that nearly all unique/named (mostly this means non-residential) skyscrapers above 100m height should have their own pages, which will be the case if I start creating the articles (talking about skyscrapers in Israel). So, does anyone know any notability criteria for buildings and structures? -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 10:45, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

If WP:N doesn't list a specific guideline for notability for a particular subset of articles, then you should assume that such a notability guideline doesn't exist.

As for one article per skyscraper, I strongly recommend that you start with an article like Skyscrapers of Israel or Skyscrapers of Des Moines and then, if one particular section gets really lengthy, spin it off as a separate article. In my opinion this is far better than a bunch of little articles (stubs or semi-stubs) that you may spend a lot of time defending the notability of. You can also use redirects as placeholders for pages that you intend to build out but, for the moment, are the text is part of a larger article. -- John Broughton ^(♫♫) 15:45, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Columns

How do I in just a general list creaate two columns? I do not want any boxes around the words, just two neat columns. Is this possible? Thanks, Asics talk 11:08, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

• Use {{col-start}}, {{col-break}} and {{col-end}} as I did in User:MacGyverMagic/Articles. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:17, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Quoting Wikipedia pages

I am writing a book and I would like to include in it some Wikipedia articles (only slightly modified). Do I need any licence for this or is the indication of the article's URL enough?

You are free to use text from Wikipedia under the terms of the GFDL. Also see here.--24.20.69.240 11:37, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

potential copyright violations

What is the policy of tagging or labeling (if any) of a section or article believed to be a copyright violation but the source is unknown?--Lucy-marie 11:42, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

If you do a Google search and can't find a source, what makes you think that an admin reviewing an article is going to be any successful? And per Wikipedia:Copyright problems, the template to be used for possible copyright violations requires a URL (of the source), so posting that without such a URL is clearly wrong. -- John Broughton ^(♫♫) 15:40, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

HELP! Problem in NBA Development League

I cannot get the Los Angeles D-Fenders mini-logo to go up on the page no matter how hard I try. The file is correct (same as the one on the team page), and I'm following the same directions as the other images, and they're up but LA's isn't. Could you please help me with this one? Tom Danson 11:49, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Looks fine to me, even going back to the version of the 24th. (You're talking about an image appearing on the line between the Utah Jazz and the Los Angeles Lakers, right?) Maybe a browser problem - you might look at WP:PURGE. -- John Broughton ^(♫♫) 15:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Editing 'See Also' sections

How can you edit (in oder to include another topic) one of those larger 'See also' sections which you can hide/show? Thank you, Chris Buttigieg 12:05, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I presume you mean the see also section of Gibraltar. You can add related links to the see also section just by adding them above or below the template name. To edit the template, you need to edit Template:Gibraltar topics. --Sopoforic 12:08, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

lat/long coordinates

Can lat/long coord's be put into articles for companies? For instance, I have the lat/long coord's for the Vermont Teddy Bear Company building in Shelburne, VT. The location is the headquarters and houses the main store, some manufacturing facilities, the administration offices, and the phone order call center. There is one other small sales location in Waterbury and one other production facility in Newport. So would this be a good addition to the article? Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 13:05, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

• Entering the location for the company HQ may be useful, if you can cite it, but coordinates for anything else aren't really encyclopedic in my opinion. - Mgm|^(talk) 14:48, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Coords could be useful if you want to nuke your competitors with a cruise missile ... --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 09:59, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

To-do lists

How do I put things in the to do list when using the {{todo}} template? Kamope · talk · contributions 13:42, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Press the "edit" button on the top-right of the template, it will lead you to the to-do subpage. Each item you will add there will immediately appear inside the template on the talk page. Michaelas10 (Talk) 14:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Kamope · talk · contributions 14:17, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Talk page formatting and archive-boxes

Please look at my talk page User talk:Arthur Rubin. If the Werdnabot template were shortened horizontally, the archive box could sit to the right of it, but I'm not sure how to do that. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 17:06, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure either. You could just move the archivebox below the Werdnabot template. Trebor 17:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

It looks as if someone changed the template so it works now. (My talk page wasn't changed, but now it sits the way I would like it, at least on my screen.) — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 18:20, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Adminship

I was wondering after looking at previous candidates for Adminship, what percentage was needed for the nominated to become an administrator? Asics talk 17:54, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

The standard is consensus, as determined by a bureaucrat. Please see Decision process at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship#About RfA. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Normally it would be 75% upwards. However there maybe exceptions at times, I have seen RfA which passed with <70% support, so it also depends on the decision of the bureaucrat who review the nomination. – PeaceNT 18:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Recent changes

Hi there, I'm an experienced user but a user requiring help has asked me what the little numbers are on recent changes and sometimes they say - and sometimes +. I think there something to do with bandwith but could you tell me for sure please so I can give him/her the right anser -- Tellyaddict 18:02, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

To quote from Help:Recent changes: (+100) refers to the number of bytes by which an edit changed the article. Negative means the article got shorter. – PeaceNT 18:10, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Dealing with unresponsive and persistent anon editors

I'm looking for advice and an informal view on whether my behavior is appropriate. This applies to edits by a editor who edits anonymously (201.92.182.149, 201.92.186.68, 201.92.187.231, 201.92.182.182, 201.92.183.203, 201.92.178.39‎) always doing one or more of the same things: deleting articles from the category Category:LVMH brands, removing links from the redlinked entries related to LVMH (especially LVMH), making a few changes to brands which appear to be factually incorrect (but probably in good faith, e.g. adding a holding company as a subsidiary). There are never edit summaries, so intent can only be speculated on.

User talk:201.92.187.231 shows several puzzled editors asking what is going on; I have tried repeatedly to contact the editor, though shifting IPs makes it difficult; however most recently on User talk:201.92.178.39‎ I have been able to overlap several message with edits, so I am quite sure the editor has at least been told they have new messages. The edits are generally technically competent, so one might assume an editor with familiarity with Wikipedia conventions.

Now, I don't think that ignoring these changes is necessarily a good thing, not do I fancy spending the rest of my life reverting them. After all, the editor may have good reasons, and if things were only done properly they might get their way (e.g. a debate on deletion of the category might succeed; unlinking redlinks might be a good idea, and source might show some of the other edits to be correct after all. Frankly, I'm not interested in these articles. But ignoring them and letting the editor's edits prevail simply because he or she ignores all messages and is more persistent seems to go against the grain. Also I seem already to have run afoul of the three revert rule.

I added a final warning to the last talk page that I would request a block if no response was made (emphasising it would be to encourage dialog). Nothing has happened since, but this person edits in bursts and is likely to be back under another IP.

So, what to do? Should I keep at it until I catch him and block him? Should I get a life? Was my statement that I would request a block out of order? (Obviously, I cannot threaten one because I do not know the response to such a request). Thoughts please. Notinasnaid 18:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

It is obviously the same editor, you are right, and it is apparent that warnings have been received. Continued edits that several other editors see as problematic, without explanation on article talk pages, is vandalism. I am going to apply {{test4}} templates to all the IPs. The next time you see these edits, report the IP in question at WP:AIAV. After three blocks of these IPs (across the whole bunch, not three per IP), I suggest you bring the issue up at WP:ANI. No need to specifically "request" a block there; the admins will look into it and if any of them see futther blocking as necessary, they will take that initiative. In any case that will get this problem on the radar. Thanks for bringing it up. Other editors may have different opinions, but I'm going to go ahead with test4 for now. — coelacan talk — 21:07, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I used {{blatantvandal}} which provides a little more information than {{test4}}. Again, next step is now WP:AIAV. — coelacan talk — 21:24, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Checked FAQ and couldn't find an answer

I submitted (with the authors permission) an article on a writer named Thomas Clough. It posted fine, but I neglected to capitalize his last name. I asked how to fix this and I don't think I got a response. Now the article is completely gone.

Please advise.

Mike

rm email —Preceding unsigned comment added by Texmike (talk • contribs)

The article in question was deleted (log) because it met criteria for speedy deletion A7; that is, it was an article about a person with no assertion of notability. It also had a substantial amount of text in it that appeared to be a copyright violation. Unless said issues are fixed, any reposting of the article will probably be deleted again. As for fixing article capitalization - just click the move button at the top of the page. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:43, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

ip addresses

my computer is currently networked with two others and shares the same ip address and share the same internet called internet explorer if i run my free 6 month trial aol disk will my ip address change? if so in how long and how frequlently? will it seprate from the other computers?--Crocadog 23:14, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Try the Wikipedia:Reference desk, where you are more likely to get an answer to your question. — coelacan talk — 23:51, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Using a picture from Wikimedia Commons

I read in a previous post here: "if the image is at Wikimedia Commons, it can be accessed and used by all wikis without the need to reupload." How do I do this? --NorwegianBlue ^talk 23:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Just link to it as you would any image. i.e. [[Image:Multimedia.png|20px]] gives you . -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 23:41, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

If you mean, how do I upload to Commons, see Wikipedia:Commons. -- Kesh 00:13, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you both! I thought I needed to do something special to link to images on Wikipedia Commons, but Consumed Crustacean cleared up that misunderstanding. And thank you Kesh, I also wanted to upload an image. --NorwegianBlue ^talk 01:45, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Custom monobook.js

Is there a customized version of Monobook.js available on the english Wikipedia that Users can copy into their own to enhance the features of Wikipedia (like, if any of you know about it, the de:Benutzer:PDD/monobook.js on the German WP)? Thanks for your answers, Cheers, Regenspaziergang 23:55, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, there's a special link that every user can use to get to their own. It's Special:Mypage/monobook.css. Peace, — coelacan talk — 00:03, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant Special:Mypage/monobook.js. Both exist. — coelacan talk — 00:04, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, but is there a predefined, better version (probably done by an admin) that i can just copy and paste into my own? Cheers, Regenspaziergang 00:06, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

There a a lot of customized versions, editors tend to combine things to form their own personal version. Take a look at WP:US for some of the scripts. Prodego ^talk 00:12, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Yay for me missing the point entirely. =P Thanks Prodego, I'll have to check out WP:US too. — coelacan talk — 01:14, 28 January 2007 (UTC)