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April 8[edit]

List of Mosques[edit]

Hello whoever is in charge. I am unable to make any edits to the List of Mosques article, why is that?--Brad M. (talk) 00:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean List of Mosques? I'm not sure why you wouldn't be able to edit, I don't think the article is protected. --Bfigura ^(talk) 00:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please describe the problem more exactly. Are you able to edit, and not save? Or are you unable to open the article or a section in an edit window? I just tried clicking the edit tab on the article, and I get an edit window. I did not make any changes since I have none to make, so I didn't actually try saving anything on it. Can you edit the article's talk page? The article is rather long, but it doesn't seem huge enough for the length to cause problems. Some browsers can't handle long articles. --Teratornis (talk) 01:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just edited List of mosques without problems. Your problem might be a lot of different things so we need more information. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adding my full text[edit]

Hello, I recently just saved my page titled Northern Lights Community School. However, only half of what I wrote in the box showed up. When I go to edit it, it's still there. I don't know if it will show up later or there is something in my text that may have stopped the last few sections. It happened when I added a footnote. Please help. Thanks so much. --Cwgrlnthsnd (talk) 01:23, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to have been fixed. From the look of things, you were missing a closing tag. Ie, you had <ref> instead of </ref> at the end. Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 01:27, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c) Hi Cwgrlnthsnd. I've fixed it. Please note that reference tags (like most html tags) work like this, the first tag specifies the type of command, and the ending tag is the same but contains a slash (/). Thus it's: <ref>text</ref>. You never closed your tags with the slash. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:29, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help with bad editors[edit]

Could some of you please add Hannah Cornett to your watchlists? There seem to be a few anon IPs and at least one registered user who keep insisting that she was born in 1982 in Hawaii even though there is a source for 1980 and Ohio. I seem to be the only one fixing the error. Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 03:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image upload[edit]

I've been sent an image for an article and told to go ahead and upload it and the name to give credit to. The author knows it's for free distribution/use and is a busy specialist. Is there any way I can go ahead without bothering them any further? or do I have to get them to fill out a form and such. Julia Rossi (talk) 04:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It seemed to me that you can use this page to upload the image. Visit me at Ftbhrygvn (Talk|Contribs|Log|Userboxes) 05:21, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cool thanks Julia Rossi (talk) 05:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Contents box[edit]

How do i prevent the Contents box from appearing on a page?--IngerAlHaosului (talk) 07:00, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Put __NOTOC__ in the page somewhere, location doesn't matter but usually near the top is preferred. Dismas|^(talk) 07:18, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

equity share in standerd medicals and pharmasuticals ltd[edit]

I have moved this question to the humanities reference desk. PeterSymonds, hope you don't mind but I deleted your comment. --Richardrj ^talk ^email 10:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Missing image?[edit]

Half way down the article Ben-Hur (1959 film), there's a screenshot of the chariot race. But when I click on the image, a blank page loads. Is this just me, or is the image broken in some way?

Later: this is happening to me with many different images as well, although not all. Curious. --Richardrj ^talk ^email 08:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're not alone, this is happening to me too. I've been getting several server and database errors from wikipedia tonight. I'm sure this will get worked out soon.--Torchwood Who? (talk) 09:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And me. I don't think the link is broken; otherwise it would go to a page of some sort. Hopefully it's just a technical glitch that'll be resolved soon. PeterSymonds | talk 09:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I had the same problem today and curiously only when i used firefox 2.0.0.13, when i used IE the image page loaded with out any problem.Now it started working correctly with firefox again.--IngerAlHaosului (talk) 10:09, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, all seems tickety-boo again. That was exciting. --Richardrj ^talk ^email 10:21, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

page search[edit]

If you are on a page can you search for a word or a name on that article only so you don't have to scan the entire page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.235.56.73 (talk) 10:18, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your web browser allows you to do this. Look for 'Find' under the Edit menu, it should bring up a box that you can type your word into. Or hold down the CTRL key and hit 'F'. That normally works too. --Richardrj ^talk ^email 10:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

red links[edit]

I found a page full from top to bottom with red links List of Slovenian photographers and i do not now what to do in this case, normally i remove red link on sight however this page would become useless if i remove the links.Can any one tel me what to do in this situation.--IngerAlHaosului (talk) 10:49, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When you say you normally remove red links, do you mean that you just remove the square brackets around the name or do you remove the name altogether? Personally I would not be inclined to do either. As I understand it the presence of a red link acts as an invitation for someone to create an article, and is therefore a useful part of the project. And removing the names altogether doesn't seem very sensible, either. I would be tempted to leave the page alone. --Richardrj ^talk ^email 11:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, please don't remove red links just because they're red. If the subject is worthy of an article, the red link is an indication to those who read it that an article is needed. Leebo ^T/C 11:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I usually remove the brakes but you are right on both accounts it is a invitation and i am reluctant to take action.I got to rethink my red link policy.TX ---IngerAlHaosului (talk) 11:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Red link. List of Slovenian photographers is unsourced and says "A list of notable photographers from Slovenia". If you wonder whether they are really notable then you could ask the creator how they were selected. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:11, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've discovered that that list is one of dozens generated by a new template, {{Lists of Slovenians}}. Most of the lists generated are either null sets (List of Slovenian astronauts) or full of non-notables (List of Slovenian missionaries). I have nominated the template for deletion; you are welcome to participate in the discussion. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:00, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Account email address reset[edit]

Hi, I am no longer able to access my old wikipedia account because it is set up with an email address for an old domain name that I no longer have access to. Unfortunately as I reset the password ages ago, the account generated a new password and sent it to the old account. Despite reading various FAQs I can't seem to find a way to get my account reset. (At ODP we do allow users to send a meta editor evidence of who they are, and if this is sufficient - their email address is updated. If you goto my Wiki profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Deathowl you can see that I have an ODP profile associated on it. If you can contact me via that link (it will email me at my current email address) I can provide you with my current email address to associate with the account. I can also forward an old wikipedia password reset email to the person who contacts me to further prove that I am who I say I am.) Thanks for your help, Andy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.185.144.121 (talk) 13:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid there's no process in place to use ODP as a verification. -- Kesh (talk) 14:45, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to the Wikimedia Foundation Privacy policy (linked at the bottom of the page "you may contact one of the Wikimedia server administrators to enter a new mail address in your preferences." DuncanHill (talk) 14:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template help[edit]

Sorry for the trouble...I am trying to bring the template {{PermissionOTRS}} in line with the Commons version but am getting my butt kicked by includeonly/noinclude. I want the template page itself to be in Category:OTRS and images tagged with the template to be in Category:Items with OTRS permission confirmed and not vice versa. But I just can't seem to get it right, can someone good with templates please help? Thanks! Kelly ^hi! 14:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to fix it. Is that what you were looking for? J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 18:40, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cite error[edit]

What is causing the big red "cite error" in the reference section of Luft? Bubba73 (talk), 15:17, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I fixed the problem. Bubba73 (talk), 15:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

History[edit]

how do I find my Family heritage on Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.52.221.118 (talk) 15:19, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unless you are a member of one of the royal or noble families of Europe, you generally can't. That's not what Wikipedia is for. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

page "Nosle" gets deleted[edit]

Hi,

I have been trying to add a brief note about the website Nosle and the feature it offers. But it ends up getting deleted. I do see other websites/companies explanation on wikipedia, so am not sure why this gets deleted.

page was created with name Nosle. Kindly let me know.

thanks Amer —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.130.238.15 (talk) 15:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The page was deleted because it was not considered notable. Please read Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted?, WP:N and WP:WEB before rewriting it. Harland1 (^t/_c) 16:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cut and paste content about music[edit]

I have a music store and I love your site and the information it provides. I would like to share this very valuable information to my customers. I am thinking of adding a fun facts section to my website and I would like to know if I can cut and paste parts of your music history information and have a link pointing to to the main page on my website. Thanks.

Here is the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_music

Please email me at <email removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucenainc (talk • contribs) 15:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes you can, all wikipedia content is released into the public domain (I think!). Harland1 (^t/_c) 15:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It´s released under the GNU Free Documentation Licence, it´s basically the same as PD. George D. Watson (Dendodge).Talk^Help 16:11, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GFDL is NOT the same as Public Domain. Yes, yu can use Wikipedia material. Just adhere to the license. -208.226.76.43 (talk) 19:22, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I meant in the sense that it can be used by anyone for any purpose. --George D. Watson (Dendodge).Talk^Help 11:28, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do I upload an image?[edit]

I'll give it this, this is the most confusing website to contribute to I've every visited.

I saw an article that needed an image. I shot and prepared a picture for that page. I tried for about twenty minutes to add the picture to the page but it never appeared. I even tried to add a link to the picture hosted elsewhere -- still no luck. I found a thing that said I had to create an account and log on to add a picture. I did that. Then it said I had to put the picture somewhere else than in the article and figure out how to link to it in the article. So I clicked the link on the left that said Upload File. It took me to a page that said:

The upload directory (/home/cacheopedia/public_html/mw/images) is not writable by the webserver.

I don't know what that means but there was no place shown on the page where I could upload the image.

I've now spent about 45 minutes trying unsuccessfully to add one simple picture to an existing article. I'm surprised this place get any contributions.

How in the devil does one add an image to an article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.29.1 (talk) 15:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Make an account then click the upload link. --George D. Watson (Dendodge).Talk^Help 16:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As I explained in my question. I had created and account and was logged on and had clicked the Upload File link. It didn't help —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.29.1 (talk) 16:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I just tried uploading an image and it seemed to work fine - it maybe that there was a problem with the servers when you tried before. Try logging back in and uploading again DuncanHill (talk) 16:21, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help. I just tried again. Same result.

The upload directory (/home/cacheopedia/public_html/mw/images) is not writable by the webserver.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.29.1 (talk) 16:24, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Add [[Image:yourimagename.jpg|thumb|right|description for caption]] to the article, with all those brackets ([]) and pipe symbols (|) just like that. It's really quite simple. But the trick is that the image has to be uploaded first, either to Wikipedia or to Wikimedia Commons[1]. And don't forget to add license information so that your image won't get deleted. Are you following the instructions on Upload file? Or are you just trying to use ftp or something like that? 199.125.109.104 (talk) 16:29, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You clearly don't appear to be logged in. All your comments here are from an IP user, and not from a logged in account. IPusers can not upload files. 199.125.109.104 (talk) 16:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As I keep saying, I clicked the "Upload file" link on the left of the screen below "Related changes" and it gave the message I've quoted —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.29.1 (talk) 16:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Quit logging out. You won't ever be able to upload it unless you create an account and log in. 199.125.109.104 (talk) 16:37, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See that link at the top right that says "Log in / create account"? Click on it. 199.125.109.104 (talk) 16:40, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As I've explained again and again, I *AM* logged in when I go to the Upload Image page. Here is a screen capture of the screen I get. Now this help area is asking me to enter validation words, while it didn't for my initial post and subsequent edits up 'til now. This is a weird and confounding place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.29.1 (talk) 17:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What are you typing in the box on the "upload file" thing? You can only upload images that are saved on your hard drive, you cannot link to an image on the web. J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 18:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It should be something like C:\Users\Admin\Pictures\example.jpg not http://www.flickr.com/photos/23946873@N08/2395510477/ J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 18:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did you look at the screen capture I linked to above? Where on that screen would I 'type in a box'?

Your picture is not working. Can you try again? J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 18:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not surprised it isn't working here, but it does work for me. Here's the link in plain text http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/6161/0050xy5.png —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki name (talk • contribs) 18:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WOW I'm dumb, I wasn't thinking that you're picture would be of Wikipedia. It's been working all along. My apologies.

OK, what you are doing wrong is trying to upload a file from the Internet. Any file uploaded must be on your computer's hard drive. I will try to walk you through the steps to upload your file. I am assuming you are using a Windows operating system and browsing from Internet Explorer.

Go to the website that has your image.
Right-click the image and click on "Save image as"
Select "Desktop" and click "Save"
Go to Wikipedia and click on "Upload File"
Click on "browse"
Find the picture you saved to your desktop and double-click it.
Select the correct license.
Click "Upload file"

I hope that works, if you have any problems, if you want, you can give me the link to the web page where the image is and I can upload it for you. J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 18:29, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Amazing!! Now I'm getting this while trying to post to this help group http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7339/61065134sx2.gif

The second one happens regularly, it is a bit of maintenance. The first image shows that you are trying to upload your image to a different Wiki than Wikipedia. Try the help desk over there if they have one. I am not sure that we can help you here. Woody (talk) 18:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When I clicked help wherever I was it brought me here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.29.1 (talk) 19:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's very odd, but this Cacheopedia may run on MediaWiki, but it's not a Wikimedia project and it seems very odd that they would link to Wikipedia's help desk. From the looks of it, you've found their Community Portal and will hopefully get some more help there than you did here. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Linking to Wikipedia's Help desk from another wiki is not appropriate, but it's understandable that a small wiki could have problems keeping its own Help desk adequately staffed. Only a small percentage of Wikipedia's users volunteer on the Help desk here, but with millions of total users, the small percentage means we probably have dozens of users monitoring this Help desk at any time. You can see from Cacheopedia's Help:Policies and guidelines that the users there have not finished the brutal task of writing their own local versions of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Someone who starts a corporate wiki may run into the same problem: with the limited pool of potential users, it's hard to find the core group of people who will pour hours into organizing and developing the wiki's content and especially the meta-content. However, as more people learn to edit on well-established wikis like Wikipedia, they need less help when they go to a small wiki. Many small wikis are not particularly beginner-friendly, because some of the experienced users have to work pretty hard to create beginner-friendliness. On Wikipedia, we have a solid group of users who for some reason gravitate to that task. --Teratornis (talk) 00:37, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

retaining wall[edit]

hello, does anyone Know if you have to put a tar base on retaining wall? we put it in to hold back the bank, the retaining wall is for are above ground pool, I know that they do it for a foundations when building a house will wait for reply thanks --Lois 999 (talk) 16:33, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, wrong forum. This is for Wikipedia-related questions only. PeterSymonds | talk 16:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

However, you can try one of the WP:REFDESK's. --barneca (talk) 17:05, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Mick Jagger August 6, 2006 - Dübendorf, ZH.jpg[edit]

Can one of you Wikipedia Admins go and check this photo and just delete it. There's been a deletion notice on this photo since December 2006 !!!!! What is going on ?

Tovojolo (talk) 17:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Huh. Looks like the IfD discussion never got closed. -- Kesh (talk) 17:18, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's a Commons image, can't do anything about it here. Someguy1221 (talk) 17:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

gold from rock[edit]

What are the steps to get the gold out of the rocks. my friend gave me a rock from a mine and i want to learn to brake it up and get the gold —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.121.165.249 (talk) 17:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC) Moved to Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science#gold_from_rock by --Cameron (t|p|c) 18:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Plagerism[edit]

Almost too easy. I don't have access to the net, but this appears to be text lifted from CBS.com. Can someone do a google search for Charles Drake (football player)? Thanks. --Endless Dan 19:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the copyvio is from http://mgobluearc.tekgroup.com/bio.cfm?bio_id=43&section_id=258&top=2&level=3&season=119 --Orange Mike | Talk 19:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unicode[edit]

How do I use Unicode hexadecimal values directly? I thought I used to just type e.g. &#x2C71 or &#x2C71, but now that just displays the numerals. Has the format changed? kwami (talk) 19:49, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You need to put a semicolon after the 1. Xenon⁵⁴ 20:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Further information appears to be at Help:Special characters in case you run into more problems. --Teratornis (talk) 00:39, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Argh, I feel like an idiot. Thanks. kwami (talk) 18:39, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that is the purpose of computers. Especially my computers. One way to interpret Moore's law is that computers become twice as good at inducing feelings of idiocy every 18 months. --Teratornis (talk) 04:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Spam[edit]

Why am I linked to the WikiProject Spam saying that I added Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/siliconvalley.internet.com and a another link, this isn't correct I don't add links to articles I mainly remove vandalism from articles, and perform minor errors within the articles, this has happened on Meta and one of the user's said I was listed as an error of the programming but why am I listed here, you can find it via "What links here" on the toolbox section when viewing my main userpage, could the problem be fixed please. Terra 19:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You were recorded as adding the link in question as a result of this vandalism reversion. However, your name is struck on the report because you're on COIBot's whitelist. Xenon⁵⁴ 20:02, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This wouldn't be a problem would it, I only remove vandalism and perform minor fixes to articles. Terra 20:06, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not a problem. Since it's a bot that's recognizing the spammers, it can flag a reversion as adding spam. That's why your name is struck - you weren't spamming. Xenon⁵⁴ 20:09, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for helping. Terra 20:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Using watchlist[edit]

Resolved

Is there any script for a watchlist that I can use which will hide my own edits? - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 20:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you click on "My Watchlist" there is a link that says "Hide my edits" Hope this helps! - Milk's favorite Cookie 20:23, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Contribs bug?[edit]

Hi. When I go to My Contributions, all my edits except for the latest one have an "N" next to them. Is this happening to anyone else? I tried refreshing it but they still shows up. --Ouzo (talk) 21:27, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are not alone Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#All_my_edits_getting_an_.22N.22_tag. DuncanHill (talk) 21:29, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Contributions[edit]

My contribution page looks weird, it has the letter N beside every contrib, idk why. It has never been this way before. Thanks in advance. Æ on 21:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Me too. Also being asked at WP:VPT. Franamax (talk) 21:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Now it is gone. Æ on 21:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to section of article containing apostrophe[edit]

I've created a section called Leeds Children's Holiday Camp Association within the article Silverdale, Lancashire. I've made a redirect from the name of the association to the section,but I don't seem to be able to do so without the apostrophe appearing in the redirect as ".E2.80.99", which looks a bit of a nightmare. I've producing my apostrophe by using the normal key on my keyboard, yet if I use the same apostrophe in the redirect it doesn't work and goes to top of the article. Help! PamD (talk) 21:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The section header used a backtick rather than an apostrophe. I'll change both to an apostrophe. --h2g2bob (talk) 21:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IRC?[edit]

Can somebody help me? It is Wikipedia IRC related. Anytime I click the link to open the IRC room (I have FireFox), My browser says "Firefox does not know how to open this program because the protocol isn't linked to a location" or whatever. So, do I need IRC installed? --pdgator29 talk 22:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You need to install one of these clients first Internet_Relay_Chat#Clients. 81.171.29.203 (talk) 22:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. --pdgator29 talk 23:05, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Heather King[edit]

I haven't come across news reporter article until today. What is the notability requirements for such entries? The current version of this article doesn't seem to show why it's encyclopedic. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 22:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Browse through WP:Notability. In my interpretation, just being a reporter on a notable news stations ≠ notable per se. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 22:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ATHLETE, by comparison, says "Competitors and coaches who have competed in a fully professional league, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming, golf or tennis." If every professional athlese and coach is notable, I'd suspect every TV news anchor is notable. But I lean toward Inclusionism (not that my opinion stops anything from getting deleted), and I think Wikipedia evolves in that direction as more people add more articles. The obviously notable articles are mostly all written now, so many of the newer articles will tend to be less notable. Obviously the burden is on whoever starts a new article to demonstrate evidence of the subject's notability, which for a person means:

A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject.

So in this case one would Google for "Heather King" and see if she has been the subject of published secondary source material. It appears that she may have been. We wouldn't count her bio page on her TV station's site because that's not independent of the subject. --Teratornis (talk) 00:53, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

After further reading, I noticed Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Creative_professionals states criteria for journalists. King doesn't seem to meet those requirements through a Google search, but someone already beat me to it by adding a prod to the article. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 01:34, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

General help[edit]

I saw an IP make this edit, and I think that there are probably templates for this type of inline comments, though I was having an issue finding them. If someone can replace the IP's "(?)" with the appropriate template, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! Spencer^T♦^C 23:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's the kind of thing I'd take to the talk page. It certainly doesn't belong in the article itself in any form. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Afroyim Soshana[edit]

Could you help me improve the article- Afroyim Soshana as this article or section needs to be wikified to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. Gary2004 (talk) 23:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)gary2004[reply]