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April 14[edit]

Submitting my name as an artist[edit]

Dear Sirs:

This is the copy I added to Kiwipedia before it was deleted. Please indicate what I need to add or remove before resubmitting my entry. Do I need to be published by any editorial source such as a magazine or newspaper before I can create an entry?

Robol—Preceding unsigned comment added by Robolsound (talkcontribs)

Collapsing for readability

(Mauricio Reyes 1969-)

Mauricio Reyes was born in Mexico City in 1969. After many years of collecting music, specially electronic music he discovered a style of music called Concrete Music or Electro-Acoustic Music. As a graphic design student he was fascinated by computer programming and loved the name Cobol. The change of the first letter gave birth to the name "Robol." After many years of listening to experimental music by authors such as Pierre Henry, Iannis Xenakis and Bruno Maderna Robol released a first CD in 2010 called "Musica Metaphysica" Música Metaphysica explores the properties of dissonance and parallel dimensions in sound. Spirit and matter are different states of the same thing—like ice and water. Matter embodies inertia, weight, potential, and darkness. Matter must be imbued with spirit, which is energy, movement, light, and potency.

A means of connecting both states is a technique in sound dissonance called Electronic Voice Phenomena (EVP), also known as Instrumental Transcommunication. EVP is utilized to receive messages from beyond this earthbound realm using electronic instrumentation combined with white noise. These instruments can include tape recorders, telephones, answering machines, radios, televisions, or anything else electronic. True white noise (with infinite bandwidth) cannot exist since it has infinite power. White noise is noise in which the intensity of the power spectral density is constant and independent of frequency. It is equivalent to saying that the signal power for a constant bandwidth, centered at frequency 'fo', does not change if 'fo' is varied.

Disembodied voices have been heard in the séance rooms of mediums for the past 150 years in the course of modern Spiritualism. The late sitters Betty Greene and George Woods made it their lifetime work to copy their tape recordings of communications in direct voice at Leslie Flint's séance room and make them available for anyone who asked for them. Parts of Música Metaphyisca contain sound clips recorded during séance sessions, hugely amplified.Robolsound (talk) 01:51, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Música Metaphysica takes the listener through different environments and dimensions in sound. The basis of the recording is an artificial audio-redundancy that serves as the vehicle to enter such dimensions. By means of different frequencies and white noise the listener is put in a state of inertia. This state of “sleep” while the listener is awake is similar to the effects of Brion Gysin’s Dreamachine. Thus, Música Metaphysica combines spirit and matter in audible environments. Robol has dedicated Musica Metaphysica to the memory of the late Carl Sagan.

Do you mean Wikipedia or Kiwipedia.com? In any event, it's not written like an encyclopedia article, it's full of peacock terms and other flowery jargon artspeak and it needs references to reliable sources to demonstrate notability. And also read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. – ukexpat (talk) 02:05, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You created it at Robol here at Wikipedia. Kiwipedia is another site not operated by the Wikimedia Foundation which runs Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:48, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh to be able to see deleted contributions! – ukexpat (talk) 03:10, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Then try your luck at RfA! I don't vote or nominate there but it appears you have several nomination offers. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:44, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe soon. – ukexpat (talk) 16:47, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

When trying to add references to an article it always says "Your edit includs new external links". I haven't ran into those ever since I joined Wikipedia almost two years ago. (I recently changed my username and my Preferences section says I have 56 edits while the edit counter page says I have over 12,000.) My username is Shannon1. Shannontalk contribs 02:55, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You might be tripping a filter. If you could mention the article name (any name that you encountered this with) and the reference you were trying to add, it might be helpful. Also, you're right about the strange edit count being displayed. Just for info, your SUL shows that your enwiki account is neither your home account, nor is it attached to the other wikis. Just fyi ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ―Œ ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣ 04:13, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And it seems your 12000 query has already been handled here. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ―Œ ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣ 04:25, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Some things take time to settle after a user rename. Your user rename was 3.5 days ago and accounts must be at least 4 days old to be autoconfirmed so maybe you are not treated as autoconfirmed when you add external links. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:33, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Normally, renames dont cause problems with autoconfirmed or anything, but her case seems to be unusual in some respects and so Ive posted a further comment on the edit count thread. Soap 12:52, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Account problems[edit]

Hi all there. Sorry for the inconvenience, but now, exactly today at 00:16 im stay in front of my pc reinstalling all my O.S. and softwares, with my favorite lists contents - sites, blogs and more, but in my page, in the wikipedia site, my login appear to me with no exist user message, but if i go to new user page, appear other message with "...too similar content with another account... NEO TOM".. ???? What occur with my account? My username was Neotom, and im using this with respect and seeing rules. Im helping with (no mutch, but any) help, reviewing any phrases and words errors, and more. Sorry , my english is poor and no mutch trainning .. rss..

Well, see my user and talk to me what´s the problem with it.

Thanks for listen.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.29.96.166 (talkcontribs)

The user logs show that User:Neo tom was registered at 17:26 on February 28, 2007, does that sound correct? If so, did you add your e-mail address when you registered? If so, you should be able to retrieve your password. There is no account with the name User:Neotom. – ukexpat (talk) 03:32, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Special:EmailUser/Neo tom shows User:Neo tom has email enabled so you can click the "E-mail new password" button at the login screen if you have access to the registered email address. I couldn't find any registered username with a variation of space and capitalization in User:Neo tom. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:22, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have a feeling the guy is a prankster. --White Trillium (talk) 04:42, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Image is horribly wrong[edit]

Can someone advise what to do about File:AverageIQ-Map-World.png? It's obviously some weird joke, because I can assure you - despite being upside down - the national average IQ of Australia is not 60 points. The blue version it references below seems to be much more accurate (and obviously so). I don't think it's technically CSD, but if someone can nudge me in the right direction? :) — Deontalk 07:05, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The image gets its data from a single source, and is used only for illustrative purposes in the article on that very source, Race Differences in Intelligence (book). Its accuracy is thus besides the point, so long as it remains only at that article and any others where the book itself is relevant. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:10, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a description explaining the image's origin, which should helpfully clear up some confusion. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:21, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bring out Wikipedia in KANNADA Language[edit]

Sir/Madam,

Wikipedia is a very useful website and a great knowledge base. It is user-friendly in that people of many languages can use and refer to it in their own language. Many of the Indian Languages are also included. I request you to include KANNADA - a south Indian language and mother-tongue of nearly 60-70 million population- as a language medium to access and learn from Wikipedia.

Thank you

Dr.S.Nagaraj —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.192.196.157 (talk) 08:02, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is kn.wikipedia.org what you are looking for? Gonzonoir (talk) 08:08, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The complete list of languages is at meta:List of Wikipedias. It includes the Kannada language link by Gonzonoir but unfortunately says there are only 8,190 articles currently. You can help on that by becoming an editor. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:21, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Alternatively, the doctor could have just searched for "Wikipedia" in Kannada-language Google. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.172.9 (talk) 16:13, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Or for Kannada Wikipedia in English Google or Kannada Wikipedia in the English Wikipedia search box. But Kannada is not mentioned among the languages at Wikipedia's Main Page because the Kannada Wikipedia is small, and if people don't think something exists then they may fail to search for it. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:25, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The list on the main page would be more intuitive if we moved the link to the full list from the intro of the section to the bottom of the bulleted list. We could just add a bullet that says "Fewer than 40,000 articles: List of Wikipedias". --—Arctic Gnome (talkcontribs) 17:10, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds like a good idea to me. Gonzonoir (talk) 07:23, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Login doesn't remember me[edit]

Resolved

I log in successfully with my username and password and check the box Remember me (up to 30 days). The next time I use Wikipedia - for example to view my watchlist - I get the screen You are not logged in. Why doesn't it remember my login? Apuldram (talk) 07:41, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's possible your IP is changing too fast (I don't know if that actually affects it), or your browser clears its cookies too often. Did you set your browser to delete all temporary internet files every time you close it? Someguy1221 (talk) 08:28, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your help, but I still have the problem.
Firefox/Tools/Options/Privacy/Cookies is full of cookies, some quite old and Windows/Cookies only contains file index.dat
Firefox/Tools/Options/Privacy/Saved Passwords allows http:// en.wikipedia.org and Windows/Temporary Internet Files has one Paint Shop Pro .jpg file (not Wikipedia)
Firefox automatically fills in the username and password in the login panel, but I shouldn't need to login again if Wikipedia is remembering it for 30 days. I haven't found a way to set (or unset) Firefox to delete Temporary Internet Files on closure.Apuldram (talk) 13:49, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Help:Logging in has some tips, for example "This feature will only work if your password was not generated by the Mediawiki software." Is something there of help? PrimeHunter (talk) 14:15, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your help. Found it! Firefox/Tools/Options/Privacy/Cookies / Keep Cookies until they expire Apuldram (talk) 14:19, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Search function changes (no more redlink)[edit]

I notice the search function has been changed. For non-existent pages, it used to show a redlink to the non-existent page. I often used that redlink for a quick glance whether an article had existed and been deleted etc. So I for one do miss this feature. I looked for a bit, but didn't find any discussion about the changed that removed this feature. Could anyone please link me to those discussions? Was there an open community poll? Asking since the redlink feature is still active on other language editions. --87.78.38.130 (talk) 08:23, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still seeing the redlink, above the results list (if any), just under the header that details how many results were found and lets me select whether to search on content pages, multimedia pages, help and project pages, etc. - I get a sentence reading e.g. "You may create the page "Magic tortoise powder", but consider checking the search results below to see whether it is already covered." Does that not appear for you? Gonzonoir (talk) 09:21, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
yep, works for me too Kayau Voting IS evil 10:16, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wha?! It's still there for you guys? That's exactly what I meant. It used to say "You may create the page "Magic tortoise powder", but consider checking the search results below to see whether it is already covered.", but it's not there anymore. I've tried all my installed browsers (FF, IE, Safari, Chrome) and it works on none of them. This is weird. Ok, but now I know at least that the feature still exists and the issue something to do with my setup. Thanks for both your reponses. --87.78.38.130 (talk) 11:24, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe it has been deactivated for unregistered users only? Just going on what little information I have right now. --87.78.38.130 (talk) 11:35, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think that is what is happening. I tried from my loggedin browser and the redlimk shows up, then I tried it from the same browser logged out and it does not show up. ~~ GB fan ~~ talk 11:37, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks. Do you perchance know who did this for what reason exactly? Like I said, it's a very convenient feature which I often used. --87.78.38.130 (talk) 11:40, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wonder whether it's to do with the fact that unregistered users can't create articles. Will see if I can find any discussion at the village pump. Gonzonoir (talk) 11:48, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A search in this produced no result at all. I haven't looked at the meta, though, since it may be changed in all wikimedia wikis. Kayau Voting IS evil 12:14, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not in meta either. Perhaps IP is simply unaware that someone else used to be logged in on the computer, and it was this way all along. Kayau Voting IS evil 12:22, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No. I am at my private computer. --87.78.38.130 (talk) 13:51, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Have IP users all been swopped from Monobook to Vector just recently? Is this a problem with Vector? Just a thought Elen of the Roads (talk) 12:26, 14 April 2010 (UTC) Nah, just tested it. Magic tortoise powder still appears, even in Vector. Elen of the Roads (talk) 12:28, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's still monobook for me logged out - and I don't see a redlink. I'm not quite sure how this works, but it does seem MediaWiki:Searchmenu-new is only shown if you have permission to create pages. Rd232 talk 12:35, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't says so at Wikipedia:Vector. This is the first I've heard of the usability initiative anyway, and if this is truly the case then I am already not liking it. Hiding information from users is what Microsoft does, and it has always sucked. Oh well. Good thing that there isn't even a way to complain about this issue. --87.78.38.130 (talk) 12:32, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think since unregistered users cannot create articles, it doesn't give you the redlink option. TNXMan 13:01, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Right. The option is there for Talk:Magic tortoise powder which unregistered users would be able to create, so a complicated way to get to the deletion log would be to add "Talk:" in front of the search, click the red link, and remove "Talk:" from the url in the browser address bar. Everybody can see the deletion log by entering the page title at Special:Log/delete (you can also just go to Special:Log). PrimeHunter (talk) 13:19, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I know about Special pages. It's just that using the search function was easier and quicker and there really is no good reason why IP editors shouldn't be able to use the feature any more. I'm sure somebody meant well with that change, but it's not thought-through. --87.78.38.130 (talk) 13:43, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I figured that was the "thinking" behind it. That rationale is clearly lacking in reason however, since IP editors may very well use the feature to quickly check whether an article has been deleted in the past. --87.78.38.130 (talk) 13:41, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Unregistered users can create articles in most language Wikipedias. After more than a dozen attempts I found another where they cannot at id: (Indonesian). That has the same behaviour as the English Wikipedia: I only get the red link when I am logged in. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:05, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Unregistered users cannot create articles as an error appears when you follow a redlink and click on create article. Also I logged out and didn't get the redlink in searches so per the original posters question, the answer is related to the fact that Unregistered Users i.e. IP users cannot create new articles they can only create new discussion pages. You need to be a registered user to create pages, otherwise you could just use the Wikipedia:Articles for creation page to request an article to be created. Paul2387 14:40, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but it's important to point out that this has been changed, and quite recently at that. I used to get the redlink and only in the last couple of weeks it suddenly disappeared. It used to be like this for me, surfing the English Wikipedia unregistered. --78.34.252.188 (talk) 16:35, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It would actually be reasonable to show MediaWiki:Searchmenu-new (providing the redlink) to everyone. When loggedout users click on the redlink, they would see MediaWiki:Nocreatetext. What's wrong with that? It's actually better, being an opportunity to suggest creating an account, etc. Rd232 talk 14:33, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested at Wikipedia:MediaWiki_messages#search_page. Rd232 talk 14:38, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that it would give people an incentive to register and I was already wondering why this didn't occur to whoever decided to deactivate the redlinks for IPs. However, just to stress this point since there seems to be a bit confusion here: The redlink used to be there for unregistered people, it must have been deactivated just a few weeks ago. --78.34.252.188 (talk) 16:35, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dates[edit]

In the 2010 Yushu earthquake article we are told it was on both 13 April (UTC) and 14 April (local time). Which date should have precedence in the template, the infobox and the main space? Ericoides (talk) 09:50, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The date in the time zone where the event happened should be used first. The UTC date and time can also be included if known, but that is not required. See WP:TIMEZONE for this guideline. --Mysdaao talk 16:34, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Legal Issues concerning Jimmy Noonan Page/Wikipedia Support system[edit]

After many complaints about a certain entity harassing me and Vandalizing my page, my page has been deleted. It says "to delete BLP violations history". Please note I was rather adamant about the removal of all slanderous and harmful posts the entity had posted over many months and understand that this process may take time. Shall I assume that the original wiki post, minus the harmful history, will go back up soon? Bob Daly and the Wiki support team have been very professional. Thank you for your time. JN —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevinmark (talkcontribs) 10:49, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Try contacting the administrator responsible for the deletion, user:Stifle, directly. Unless reinstation minus the edits in question was specifically requested at the time that's not a normal part of the process. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:57, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You may wish to contact Stifle directly regarding this matter, as he was the administrator performing the removal. Based upon your contribution history i would assume that this issue was handled trough the OTRS system which means that only a limited set of users are capable of seeing the full discussion prior to the removal. Normally pages deleted for violating BLP are permanently gone, but Stifle's edit summary seems to suggest that it was taken down temporally to be oversighted. Again, i think it might be best to contact him directly as i don't think most users on this general purpose helpdesk will be able to help you. Kind regards, Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 11:02, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Linking to my blog[edit]

I wanted to know if I can link, "Shakespeare's, To Be Or Not To Be". . . to my blog. I did a spin off on his poem using parts for my article. Instead of, To Be Or Not To Be, I will have, "To Rent Or Not To Rent. . .using a third of the poem". I want to ad the link as a source for my spin off, if this is alright. I haven't added my article yet, however, it would be on my blog, http://willworkforpayingptc.blogspot.com/

Thanks, CortanaLain —Preceding unsigned comment added by CortanaLain (talkcontribs) 12:02, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That wouldn't be appropriate. As one of the most well-known pieces of English prose, any links attached to it would have to provide a unique value in understanding the work. Poetry on one's blog does not fall into that category. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 12:05, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for asking here first. I agree with Chris Cunningham. This would not conform with Wikipedia:External links. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:39, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think the questioner is asking whether he/she can include a link to our article To be, or not to be on his/her blog. If I've interpreted the question correctly, the answer is yes. Deor (talk) 22:38, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, yes. A link the other way around (from the blog to the article) would be more than welcome. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 08:30, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

using photos[edit]

If I use photos from wikipedia, how do I need to reference them in my work?Psthill (talk) 12:43, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Photos have different licenses and many photos displayed at Wikipedia are stored at Wikimedia Commons. If you want to copy the photos then see Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content#Images and other media. Or do you want to say what is on the photos in a reference without displaying the photos? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:38, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Userpage talk help[edit]

Hi, I'm not sure if I'm in the right spot to be asking this, but could someone delete my userpage talk history? I am clearing my talk page, but I would like to have the history of any edits made to it deleted. I know it was done before with past editors, and I would like to have it done with mine if it is possible. Ziva David (talk) 12:44, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page deletion isn't usually done, unless there are exceptional circumstances (private info revealed, etc.). Do these circumstances exist here? TNXMan 12:58, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The talk history's pretty short, so I had a look through it. I don't think this is a case where deletion will be granted; even if it were a right to vanish request, that would prohibit the user from remaining in the community. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 13:50, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am having a problem uploading his image. Kittybrewster 13:20, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What problems are you having? TNXMan 13:22, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know. It doesn't show up here. It is on wikicommons. Kittybrewster 13:24, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. I don't see the image under that name on commons. Can you provide a link to the page on Commons? TNXMan 13:29, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
commons:Special:Contributions/Kittybrewster shows you uploaded File:Jack Burgess Kerslake.jpg but you spelled it File:Jack Burgess Karslake.jpg when you tried to add it to John Burgess Karslake. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:31, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. You deserve a medal. Kittybrewster 13:33, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Mysdaao also found the problem and fixed the article [1] while I wrote the reply. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:42, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This is a reason to copy and paste filenames rather than re-type them. It is too easy when re-typing to make errors of spelling, spacing, or capitalization - for which Wikipedia provides no slack. If you open multiple browser tabs, you can upload or find a file on Commons in one tab, copy the filename after the upload or search succeeds, and then paste the filename into a Wikipedia edit window in another tab. --Teratornis (talk) 16:02, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And if you want to award someone a (sort of) medal, you can choose from these. --Teratornis (talk) 21:04, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How long to get something posted or added in an article[edit]

Resolved
 –  – ukexpat (talk) 15:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I posted something on the 8APR but haven't seen a response yet. Is there a delay on this or do I have to write the addition?--Guilio 2008 (talk) 14:24, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You added this to a talk page on that date. It is likely that nobody has seen your comment as you have posted it in the middle of the page under an unrelated heading; new comments should be added to the bottom of pages. I have moved your comment to the bottom of the page where they will be more visible. If you do not receive a reply to your comments then you are welcome to edit the pigging article directly to add your material. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 14:30, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have same sort of problem or question. I posted an article on 13th of April and couldn't get any response yet. How long does it take someone to see my article and comment on or post it to wikipage?Gulgur (talk) 18:56, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that you made an article, but you created it in your own userspace. I would suggest you use the Article Wizard in the future for article creation. In the meantime, I have moved the page for you to Institute for Economics and Peace.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 19:14, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much. I will figure out article wizard. Thank you for helping.

Gulgur (talk) 14:53, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

User talk page is an attack page[edit]

I recently encountered this IP talk page, which was created by the IP in question, that contained only disparaging content (which I will not quote). I requested speedy deletion per CSD G10,m however, I am confused as to weather or not this CSD criterion applies to talk pages (in my opinion, if it does not, it certainly should), which is why I am asking this question: Can user talk pages be speedily deleted under CSD G10 or not? Immunize (talk) (talk) 15:17, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The general speedy criteria, such as G10, are applicable on all namespaces. The page in question has been nuked. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 15:22, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't find acces date on web page about balance of payments, it doesn't shown, I really need it![edit]

I didn't find acces date on web page about balance of payments, it doesn't shown, I really need it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.228.83.52 (talk) 16:24, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you want. If you look at an article today then your access date is by definition today regardless when the page was written or last edited. The bottom of Balance of payments currently says: "This page was last modified on 13 April 2010". If you want to cite the article in another work then see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia or click the "Cite this page" link in the toolbox to the left of the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:32, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Comments section of Image File[edit]

Can the person who uploaded an image file to Wikipedia edit the comments section in the "File History" of the file? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rouder (talkcontribs) 16:37, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, but I see you want to remove something from view to keep somebody anonymous. You can request deletion of the image by placing {{Db-author}} on the page, and later upload the image again without the name. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:52, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I guess WP:OVERSIGHT might remove the edit from general visibility if you ask. – ukexpat (talk) 16:57, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know whether that is possible. A former version of a file can be deleted together with its upload comment but there is currently only one file version. An upload comment is not the same as an edit in the page history. Do you want me to delete the whole image together with the comment? Without oversight intervention it would be possible for administrators to see the deleted version and comment, but not for other users. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:06, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The link for Sentence Diagramming Drawings and Installations by Nicholas Knight. From the homepage, click "diagrams"

links here:

http://sedoparking.com/search/registrar.php?registrar=DRSI&domain=nicholasknight.net

with some rather risque topics, but no link for diagramming.

Thymos3 (talk) 17:03, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed it.[2] The domain expired yesterday and has other content now. The former content can be found at http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://nicholasknight.net/ but I don't want to link there in an external links section with several other links. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:16, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It also appears the diagrams are missing from the archive so a link would seem pointless. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:18, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lego Universe fansite[edit]

Can I make an article for a small a Lego Universe fansite? While though I own it, I can write the article without advertising it.

Grizzly10513 (talk) 17:16, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. The site is: The Unofficial Lego Universe Forums

Almost certainly no. See WP:COI and WP:WEB. – ukexpat (talk) 17:53, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with the above. Fansites are discouraged here, and also cannot be used as reliable sources because they are, well, fansites.   ArcAngel   (talk) (review) 18:04, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know there is not an explicit prohibition of articles on fansites. That being said, though, almost no fansite will be able to satisfy the notability requirements for websites -- being covered in reliable, independent sources and being "historically significant". Xenon54 / talk / 19:51, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, how come there are articles on video games and movies? not many of them are "historically significant". Besides, LUGNET is a fansite, isn't it? And there is an article on it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grizzly10513 (talkcontribs) 21:05, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Er, because they meet the notability criteria, see WP:NFILM for example. And Xenon54 didn't say that no fansites would meet the criteria, a few do, most do not. – ukexpat (talk) 21:18, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, then I'll take this as a no. Hold it, my site has a wiki on it though that will soon (hopefully) be expanded. Is linking to another wiki notable? Also, could the article on the wiki be added as a sourse for the Lego Universe "Plot" section? Grizzly10513 (talk) 16:53, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Notability is not inherited so, no. The way for your fansite to have an article on Wikipedia is for other people to mention it in places that Wikipedia would consider reliable - books, newspapers, magazines, TV, etc. If it gets noticed enough, someone without a conflict of interest will eventually come here and start an article. Wikipedia is not the place to start getting your fansite noticed. Astronaut (talk) 11:27, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalizing the title of an article[edit]

I created an article (Wildland fire lessons learned center) and i would like to capitalize the first letter in every word; it should look like 'Wildland Fire Lessons Learned Center.' Is there an easy way to do this or will I have to move the text to a new article with the correct title? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lessonslearnedcenter (talkcontribs) 18:09, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but I've deleted this article as a blatant advertisement. Please read our info on writing your first article and review the links I left on your talk page. This should help you get started. TNXMan 18:14, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Widget?[edit]

So, I'm playing with | Wolfram Alpha and I see this wicked cool wikipedia widget that I want for my website. (you can see it on the right hand side of the page in a sidepod titled, 'Related Links'. It has the cool preview flyouts when you hover over the link text)

It is very similar to the Amazon widget I am already using. Is this widget somewhere that I can grab it and incorporate it into my site?

Please please say yes and show me where it is.

Thanx, Slightlyright (talk) 18:41, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's a feature of http://www.wolframalpha.com not of Wikipedia so you will have to ask them. – ukexpat (talk) 19:40, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(should have been an e/c...? 0_0) I am 99 and 99/100% sure that the widget was custom written by Wolfram Alpha staff for their use. Certainly I don't think anyone here wrote it for them -- we're too busy writing an encyclopaedia to worry about such trivial matters -- so the chances of you being able to download it are also that slim. Sorry. The only course of action I can suggest is to contact Wolfram Alpha. In a perfect world, if you asked nicely they would give it to you, but the chances of that in the real world are probably also as long. Xenon54 / talk / 19:45, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I love Wolfram|Alpha. So awesomeness. This is part of the reason why. SS(Kay) 04:20, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pserousis[edit]

I would like to know regarding disease known as Pserousis skin disease, is it contagious, is it curable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.164.226.206 (talk) 19:14, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. TNXMan 19:30, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I also strongly suspect you mean psoriasis. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:37, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

why wikipedia put website into spam????[edit]

Hi,

I have submited one website into wikipedia. Whatever pages i have edited that is usfull information for other people. But i am not able to understand why they put into spam is there any process to remove that after they follow some process and verify my link whatever i have given that???

Thanks, Sharda Prasad singh —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.72.118.172 (talk) 19:26, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You may want to contact User:MER-C directly and ask, as it appears they are the one who has left the notice on your talk page.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 19:33, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The links you added, in additional to appearing like advertisements, were accompanied by the tagline "Learn about Indian Civilization, Culture, Yoga, Ayurveda,History" - which reeks of spammy intent. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:40, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Login Credentials[edit]

I'm writing to say i have not recieved my login credentials. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.218.180 (talk) 20:48, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You mean the confirmation e-mail? Did you add an e-mail address in the appopriate box when you set up your user account? – ukexpat (talk) 20:54, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Making reference to other language wiki articles[edit]

Is making reference to other language wiki articles forbidden? Like for example if in your article you have a name of person or a term that you want to indicate exists in some other language wiki. Is it forbidden to make such a reference?--Lilit Gabyan (talk) 21:20, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Links to other Wikimedia projects are perfectly OK but you cannot use other wikis as a reference. Note that the formatting for links to other projects can be tricky, for example to link to the Spanish Wikipedia Main Page the code is [[:es:Portada|Main Page]] which renders as Main Page. – ukexpat (talk) 21:27, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I generally don't like them in articles because they break the principle of least astonishment and don't work in mirrors and forks. However there are templates for such links like Template:Dei, Template:Nli, etc. Translating the article from the other language Wikipedia into English is a better idea, in my opinion, and it also benefits the English Wikipedia. It doesn't have to be a full translation if the source article is lengthy; a stub that gives the basic details is far better than nothing. Graham87 04:06, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Gates' wiki has erroneous entry[edit]

Bill Gates was not paid $50,000 by IBM for DOS. Bill Gates paid 50,000 to buy DOS. This needs to be corrected, I am not able to find a way to edit that protected page, nor am I able to find a way to ask someone to edit it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kartikswiki (talkcontribs) 23:20, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The place to discuss this is at Talk:Bill Gates: but you will undoubtedly be challenged to provide a reliable source for the information you seek to alter. --ColinFine (talk) 23:43, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
MS-DOS states "Worried by possible legal problems, in June 1981 Microsoft made an offer to Rod Brock, the owner of Seattle Computer, to buy the rights for 86-DOS. An agreement to release all rights to the software was signed in June 1981. The total cost was $75,000." with a note of "$25,000 for the original licensing fee and $50,000 for the June 1981 agreement." The Bill Gates article states "After adapting the operating system for the PC, Microsoft delivered it to IBM as PC-DOS in exchange for a one-time fee of $50,000." As noted, bring it up on the talk page. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 23:58, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]