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June 22[edit]

encrypting special characters letters in the ps2 console game, for call of duty.[edit]

I like to know, how do I incorporate different letter characters into a playstation2 console,like in the game call of duty —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chuckhugg (talkcontribs) 00:30, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. AJCham 01:29, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Video in article[edit]

I know that videos aren't used in articles very much. I added a video to Grizzly Bear because I thought that it would be an alright video to use for a section that talks about bears in captivity. Is the video fine for the article? Joe Chill (talk) 02:49, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Joe, you might have already seen this work-in-progress, but thought if you haven't, it might have some good points. Wikipedia:Videos. Best, ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ―Œ ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣ 04:09, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And the video looks fine to me. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ―Œ ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣ 04:15, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yea, the video looks fine to me too.--Toontown59153 (talk) 19:30, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speed limit thru round about[edit]

Speed limit thru the round about in Fernley NV is 15 mph. The next mph sign is a ways out of the round about. What is the speed limit between leaving the round about and the 35 mph sign? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.139.186 (talk) 03:09, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:38, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

9mm luger bullets[edit]

can a 9mm luger bullet cause lead poision? and what are they made from?please help —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.177.43.239 (talk) 04:17, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While Wikipedia doesn't give medical advice, you might be interested in seeing 9 mm Luger about its technical specifications. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ―Œ ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣ 04:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is the bullet in you? Or are you planning on eating it? Faceless Enemy (talk) 05:49, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also noting that Wikipedia doesn't give medical advice, we have an article about lead poisoning with some mention of bullets but not specifically Luger. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:47, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

mobile sim manufacturing[edit]

how one can manufacture mobile sim? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.168.38.210 (talk) 07:38, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Avicennasis @ 07:43, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You may find some useful information at Subscriber Identity Module. Karenjc 20:55, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Retrospectively linking IP and wiki ID[edit]

I've created/edited a couple of articles before registering. All those old edits are from the same IP (a static one, no collision with any other user). I wonder if there's a way of linking that IP to my wiki ID retrospectively, so that the edit history of those old articles would show my wiki ID instead of the IP? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kocsonya (talkcontribs) 07:44, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why don't you put a note on the IP talk page which says you are the owner of the IP? Kayau Voting IS evil 08:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, unfortunately. However, what you can do for attribution purposes is edit each of those articles, saying in your edit summary that "xxx.xxx.xx.xxx" was you. That should make it clear. Cheers, {{Sonia|ping|enlist}} 08:59, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Although this will of course publicly link your IP address with your user account - you may not have a problem with this, but some people dislike it for reasons of privacy and security, which is why IP anonymity is listed as one benefit of creating an account. Karenjc 20:51, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Do note that publicly linking a static IP with yourself will let people know a) where you live or work, b) which company you work for, or which ISP you use, and c) who you are, if they dig hard enough. Altogether, not a good idea. LK (talk) 06:18, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Statistics about articles/pages etc.[edit]

Hello, I need to find statistics about SOME CATEGORY e.g. USA (how many pages/articles/uploaded files etc.) where I can get such information? With best, Sultan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.211.24.162 (talk) 09:04, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you mean. If you mean how many pages are in a certain category, that information is listed on the category page. For example, Category:Living people lists 462,157 pages. TNXMan 14:44, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

statistics on user profiles[edit]

hi there,

does wikipedia hold any statistics on their user profiles, such as gender or age group etc? obviously only statistics that would keep the user anonymous. is it possible for the public to view these types of statistics? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.109.41.117 (talk) 09:28, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, such informations may be written on user pages if the user wants to, but there is no enforcement to do it. Kubek15 write/sign 11:28, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
But I did think we did do studies about the types of people that used wikipedia? I'm sure such information exists. I'll have a look for it later. --Cameron Scott (talk) 12:17, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Some data from a 2008 user survey are here. Deor (talk) 14:34, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

how to create column at the right[edit]

I am trying to create a new article. How do I insert a column at the right of the page like for example European Journal of Human Genetics, please —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsowiley (talkcontribs) 09:37, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That is called an infobox; the one in the article you cite, for instance, is Template:Infobox journal. Go to Category:Infobox templates and select an infobox appropriate to the topic of your article, copy the template and paste it at the top of the article, fill in the fields relevant to the article, and you will have what you want. If you find it difficult to select the most appropriate template, check another article on a similar topic to see what's used there. Deor (talk) 10:17, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New user to upload photo[edit]

I would like to upload a picture with a new article. The copyright is owned by my company. Is this picture then considered as free content / or how do I catagorise it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsowiley (talkcontribs) 10:49, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

By default we cannot consider the image free unless it is explicitly declared as such by the copyright holder (or in the case of a company owning copyright, an authorised representative). Please refer to Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for details of how this can be done. Regards, AJCham 12:26, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If it happens to be a logo then see Wikipedia:Logos. If you want to make edits about your own company then also note Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:39, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Problems in creating a Wilki Book[edit]

Hi there, I have tried to create a Wiki book on Pink Floyd. I have prepared the book uing standard settings but when I try to create a .pdf the operation fails and I receive a message stating that the file is damaged. Are there any known fixes to this problem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.69.8.127 (talk) 11:19, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a username? I'm not familiar with the Book creator tool but Help:Books/Frequently Asked Questions#Skin support says: "The tool currently only works with the Monobook and Modern skins." I don't know whether this is up to date. The default skin is Vector and can be changed under Appearance at Special:Preferences when you are logged in. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:34, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, the book creator does work under Vector (for me at least) so this should not be the source of the trouble. AJCham 17:47, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interpretation of policy[edit]

I am reading; [[1]]. What my query is though is if an article has been deleted and restored in a user page by an admin. Is there a time limit for how long your allowed to keep an article userfied that was already had consensus for deletion? My interpretation of this essay and referenced policy is that indefinetaly leaving an article that was demmed deletable would be subject to deletion under misslacnious for deltion (excuse the spelling). Am I right to think this?., Thanks for any clarifications and help. Ottawa4ever (talk) 11:47, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Userfication of a deleted article is done with the understanding that the user intends to improve the article and bring it up to a standard so that it may be moved back into the mainspace. Such articles, for example, may be poorly sourced or promotional in tone, etc. – big problems, but resolvable assuming the subject meets the GNG. If it were to transpire that the user has no intention of further editing the article, or it otherwise has virtually no chance of making it back into the mainspace it would indeed be a potential candidate for MFD. AJCham 12:20, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Six months seems to be what people think is the length of time we should wait (I think sooner could be appropriate at times), but there's nothing in writing. Userfied pages should also have the noindex template added to them. Dougweller (talk) 12:59, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Alrighties, thanks for the input :) Ottawa4ever (talk) 14:56, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with printing[edit]

The problem was discussed here: Problem printing with "New Features" on Wikipedia..., the problem hasn't been solved nor discussed... Gregorynovella (talk) 12:22, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Post it over at WP:VPT. You will get a better response there. GtstrickyTalk or C 13:17, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vertical text[edit]

Is there a way to render vertical text, either within the Wikipedia interface or with styling that would work for an acceptable proportion of browsers? I found this reply from 2008, which says no, but I wondered if it is still the case.

The context of the query is different as well: rather than tables, I am looking to create composite images of scientific graphs, where the label on the vertical axis would be in vertical text. The idea is to have a single SVG graph on commons for all projects, and that each project could label the axes in its own language... thanks for any help or suggestions! Physchim62 (talk) 12:52, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are you saying you want to implement graphs in HTML or wikitext rather than creating them as SVG files with an external program such as Gnuplot? If so, I don't think that is how we do it. If you create graphs with Gnuplot, you or other users can edit the text labels with an SVG editor such as Inkscape, although there seems to be a problem sometimes with displaying SVG text as text. Converting text to paths gets around the display problem, but then does not leave the text editable as text. For further reading see the links under Commons:COM:EIC#Inkscape, and media in Commons:Category:Gnuplot diagrams. The way Internationalization and localization work on Commons now is to upload duplicates of graphs labeled in the various languages. Another method is to put as little text on the graph itself as possible, and put the text into separate language-specific {{Legend}} templates which are completely outside the image files. For an example see the pie chart at the top of List of power stations in Wisconsin. There is an inactive page: Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination. Maybe the best place to discuss this is on Commons, perhaps Commons:Commons:Village pump or Commons:Commons:Graphics village pump. This is not a very good answer to your question, but I would be surprised if a good answer exists. The Wikipedia projects collectively are a long way from smoothly handling localization in all contexts. Much work remains on this. --Teratornis (talk) 23:15, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Did you try the ugly brute-force method of stacking the vertical axis label vertically with one horizontal character per line? And did you search with Google for: rotate text css? That finds a lot of pages, but I don't know whether any of the techniques would work from MediaWiki. --Teratornis (talk) 23:25, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your suggestions. I think we'll try using SVG files for the axis labels at the moment, just for testing the "proof of concept". Physchim62 (talk) 23:45, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Namechange- Password etc.[edit]

If you change your username, does your password stay the same? And if I have less than 3000 contributions, should I be safe to change without trouble? And what about my custom signature? Does it stay the same until I change it? 2D ℳaestro Hablar/Escribir 12:57, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:CHU. That will answer most of your questions. GtstrickyTalk or C 13:06, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I believe your password stays the same. Your signature (and all of your other preferences) will remains as they were. As for your contributions, it simply depends on the job queue, and how many other things the servers have lined up to do before they get to reassigning your contributions. See WP:Changing username for more. TNXMan 13:08, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Need help correcting an image[edit]

Hi — There's a partially incorrect image in the article Season, and I don't have the imaging competence to correct or replace it. Could you tell me how I can find someone who could do this? I've described the problem with the image on Talk:Season, but so far no one has responded. Duoduoduo (talk) 15:44, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The image-drawing specialists live at Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:17, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Toad Outbreak[edit]

As never before, I am seeing very many baby toads in my yard and others in northest Ohio. Is there some explaination for this happening?

Dale Beaver —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.189.48.9 (talk) 15:45, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Gonzonoir (talk) 15:47, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This recent article may also be of interest. I know it's Sri Lanka, but toads are toads. (And, as per the above, this Held Desk is for Wikipedia-related questions only). Orphan Wiki 15:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright[edit]

I dispute the copyright on the image http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vishey-logo.png It should be PD-simple —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.230.7.141 (talk) 16:03, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This page Vishay - Privacy Policy and Legal Notice places extensive restrictions on everything shown at the Vishay website. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:23, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Irrelevant. If the logo doesn't meet the threshold of originality they cannot claim copyright on it (trademark restrictions still apply of course). Typefaces and simple geometric shapes do not meet the threshold, so I am inclined to agree with the IP and say this image is PD. AJCham 22:05, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also see Commons:Commons:Image casebook#Trademarks. --Teratornis (talk) 05:45, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the page title "Farmleigh Fellowship"[edit]

Hello

I am the author of a page title "Farmleigh Fellowship"

The contents of the page have already been deleted but i would like to have the title deleted from your data base.

How do I do this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donaghf (talkcontribs) 16:08, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. The page has been deleted and is no longer publicly visible. Do you mean the record of the deletion, as seen here? TNXMan 16:09, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He probably deleted the content, and then posted this message, not knowing the actual page had been properly deleted by an admin. (Donaghf, the red link to your page means the title no longer exists within the list of articles.) Orphan Wiki 16:12, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you cannot delete a "Page Title" because simply in WP, anyone can create any page with any title not already taken. But it must follow the rules of WP. Otherwise it will be deleated. --Toontown59153 (talk) 19:27, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your post here came 11 hours after the page was deleted so I'm unsure whether you want more. Can you clarify what you mean by "have the title deleted from your data base"? It will not be deleted from the deletion log which is there exactly to show which page titles have been deleted. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

bug in pdf creation script for multi-language entries[edit]

Download PDF application has following bug while processing multi-language pages with languages both in left-to-right (e.g. English) and right-to-left (e.g. Hebrew) writing direction: It writes right-to-left entry in left-to-right way, so for example מלחמת יום כיפור (Yom Kippur War) is written רופיכ םוי תמחלמ i.e in mirror image as if it would be left-to-right —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.139.88.253 (talk) 16:16, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have verified this on the Yom Kippur War page. I think the correct place to report this is Help:Books/Feedback, but I'm not sure. Anyone have any ideas?Naraht (talk) 20:25, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps post at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)? -- John of Reading (talk) 20:33, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Researchers[edit]

How can you request to be a researcher so you can view deleted pages? Gobbleswoggler (talk) 16:17, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You have to contact the Foundation directly, as it appears they are the ones granting this right. Their contact information is here. TNXMan 16:18, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also, it's worth noting that users with that right cannot view deleted pages, but rather can "search deleted pages and view deleted history entries without their associated text." TNXMan 16:20, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Some deleted pages are visible to everyone on Deletionpedia. --Teratornis (talk) 17:50, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tabulating machine content about Nazi Germany[edit]

Resolved
 –  – ukexpat (talk) 20:18, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article Tabulating machine has two paragraphs on census statistics in Germany being used to help identify people to send to extermination camps. The link is that tabulating machines were used in the census but that seems two steps removed to me. The content could be interesting but isn't cited. I was wondering what to do, just note it as citation neeeded, move it to the talk page of a relevant page (census perhaps, any ideas?) and leave it to editors there to decide what to do,, or just delete as being not directly related? Thanks. Dmcq (talk) 17:45, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's been removed with comment 'removed massive irrelevance apparently intended to imply guilt by association'. Thanks for that - sounds good Dmcq (talk) 19:46, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Michelle Morgan[edit]

I just watched the story of litte Michele Morgan whose death occurred in 1962 as a result of beatings and stomping by her stepmother, Mary Morgan. When apprehended 35 years later, she was sentenced to five years although her own four children had been hospitalized a total of 150 times in 5 years. I saw this on A&E Channel, on June 22, 2010. Five years? She should have been beaten and stomped to death. More facts should be available from Cold Case Files A&E if anyone knows how to contact them. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.205.97.200 (talk) 18:57, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's sad, but this desk is for asking questions about using Wikipedia. TNXMan 19:10, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is an article for Michelle Morgan if you would like to add referenced information from the A&E program.--Supertouch (talk) 21:30, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-Protected Pages[edit]

How can I show that I understand the policy reasons behind the Pending changes trial so I am able to edit semi-protected pages?

Thanks! --Toontown59153 (talk) 19:23, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As an autoconfirmed user, you are already able to edit semi-protected pages. Your account has been active for four days and made at least ten edits. TNXMan 19:28, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, cool! Thanks so much! --Toontown59153 (talk) 19:47, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you only want to edit semi-protected pages then you already can as an autoconfirmed user. Do you also want to review pending changes in Wikipedia:Pending changes/Trial? Then more is required. See Wikipedia:Reviewing#Becoming a reviewer. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:14, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verifiability / web page disappeared[edit]

Does anyone know of a way to preserve a web page for verifiability at a later date if the page has already disappeared? The page in question has been cached by google, so can be verified now, but that presumably will disappear as the google cache updates. It's not on the wayback machine, and webcite won't work since the original's already gone. Any ideas?--BelovedFreak 19:56, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How about WebCite? – ukexpat (talk) 20:16, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Won't work; I tried it, but I guess because it's trying to archive the googlecache and not the original website, it doesn't work. I don't really understand how it works, but I did try that.--BelovedFreak 20:48, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find out . .[edit]

I wrote an an article: Soul Style. I edited it today. I put soul style into the 'search' but my article doesn't come up. What am I doing wrong? thanks. ShawneM (talk) 20:17, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's currently a draft in your userspace at User:ShawneM/Soul Style. Your contributions are listed here. I should add that it is not ready to be moved to mainspace - you need to cite reliable sources to demonstrate that the subject is notable. – ukexpat (talk) 20:19, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And the article does not give information on a specific item or thing. Just gives a breif description on this "Soul Style". Toontown59153 (talk) 21:18, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I see it has a CSD template, one I don't think it is deserved (I have a query in to the editor leaving it).--SPhilbrickT 21:22, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ellipsis and quotations.[edit]

Sorry, I don't know much about them and I would like to know if I used them correctly to fix a quote. Did I use the ellipsis correctly and does the period go inside or outside the quote? wiooiw (talk) 20:45, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe the brackets around the ellipsis are required.
Whether punctuation belongs inside or outside the quote can be a matter of raging debate in some circles, but I'm happy to see that Wikipedia adopts logical punctuation. See Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotations for more detail.--SPhilbrickT 21:08, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The period does inside of the quotation marks. At least that is how it is taught now a days. Toontown59153 (talk) 21:15, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(in response to above, e/c with below) At least in America. The usual practice in British English is to only include punctuation inside the quotation marks that was in the original quotation. An ending-sentence period would go outside the marks, unless it was in the original quotation; if the period was in the written source originally, it should go into the marks. Wikipedia follows this practice.
A couple of other minor errors: the single quotation marks around 'big' were correct; the brackets should probably be removed from around the ellipsis; and the period immediately after that should be omitted, unless for some reason it's been decided it needs to stay. Xenon54 (talk) 21:28, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your edit had been the subject of a good-faith revert by someone unhappy that you'd changed to the "Adolph Hitler" spelling, but since it's a direct quotation you were correct in doing so. I've reverted back to your version and put an invisible comment in the text to alert future editors. Oh - and the correct position of the period depends on where you are and what variety of English you use. For Wikipedia use, see Sphilbrick's link. Karenjc 21:20, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The incorrect spelling of Adolph (for Adolf Hitler) need not be preserved. At MOS:QUOTE, it says "Trivial spelling or typographical errors should be silently corrected ...—unless the slip is textually important." The spelling of 'Adolph' is not textually important here... the author was not trying to make a point of the misspelling.
The ellipsis does not need the brackets—its function is obvious denoting omitted material—so the quote should not have them. Per WP:ELLIPSES, it would need the brackets to differentiate between the omission-type ellipsis and the pause- or suspension-type ellipsis already present in the same quote. I have brought the quote into alignment with WP guidelines. Binksternet (talk) 02:02, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What if voters in an AFD contradict Wiki guidelines[edit]

I initiated an AFD a while back where I requested a rename from an uncommon form of a phrase to a much more common form. However 2 others voted against which was enough for my request to be rejected. Yet my request was fully compliant with Wikipedia naming guidelines Wikipedia:Naming_conventions#Common_names. What takes precedence ? Can voters in an AFD chose to contradict Wikipedia:Naming_conventions#Common_names? --Penbat (talk) 22:42, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is probably no magic rule that applies invariably on Wikipedia. See WP:IAR - every rule has the built-in possibility of being overridden. This makes Wikipedia vexing sometimes, since you cannot predict with certainty the outcome of every possible dispute. If you want a useful answer, give a link to the specific AFD so Help desk volunteers can consider the specifics of the case. Since WP:TITLE is a policy, that would mean anyone who wants to override it would need a good reason. --Teratornis (talk) 23:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
AFD refers to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. It discusses deletion of articles and is not a vote. It sounds like you describe a requested move which belongs under another process Wikipedia:Requested moves. It isn't a vote either. Editors often disagree whether something is within policy or guidelines, and some things like determination of common names can depend on personal experiences and preferred sources. We cannot comment on your case without seeing the case. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:01, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You might be interested in this discussion at VP. In fact, when I first saw this question, I thought forum shopping, but it is a different person asking and the question isn't exactly the same.--SPhilbrickT 01:09, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Which AfD might you be referring to? A context would be good. Thanks. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ―Œ ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣ 04:09, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

May I publish original research about origins of 5 Wikipedia articles on my user talk page?[edit]

I believe I detected paid authoring of related articles, each supporting the same political position. My OR is based on Wiki user and article logs, plus a bit of web searching to connect the dots.

If such publication is permitted, may I refer to this on the discussion page of one of the articles?

Please answer to my talk page.Oldtaxguy (talk) 22:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OR is for articles, not for talk pages, so feel free to do so. Kayau Voting IS evil 00:32, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You could try to create a sub-page in your user space to write those OR articles. Do read WP:User pages too. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ―Œ ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣ 04:06, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How do I transfer or copy and paste an article I prepared in my log-in page and submit it for review. Can it be reviewed in my user page?[edit]

I prepared an article in my user page. I would like to submit it for review and public posting. Can you review it in my user page or do I have to transfer it elsewhere for review? Can it be copied & pasted to the required location or does it need to be retyped in that location?Cheodiaz (talk) 22:55, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:LAYOUT, WP:YFA, WP:BIO, WP:AUTOBIO, WP:PEACOCK, WP:REALNAME, WP:FOOT, WP:V, WP:CITE, and WP:COI. If you are new to Wikipedia editing, it is best to learn by making small edits to existing articles at first, while reading the friendly manuals. Starting new articles from scratch and making them stick can be very difficult due the complex rules for content and formatting here (see the instruction pages I linked above). --Teratornis (talk) 00:00, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And just to put a note here, if the article you're creating in your page is about yourself, read our conflict of interest guidelines and try not to edit the article yourself. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ―Œ ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣ 03:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]