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March 14

Daily pictures

Is the the person who picks the daily pictures from Tasmania? There are alot of pictures that have to do with Tasmania. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.19.73.210 (talk) 00:14, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Picture of the day. It has to be a featured picture. User:JJ Harrison is from Tasmania and writes "I've taken 254 featured pictures". I haven't kept track but I guess this is the reason for what you say. JJ Harrison is not an administrator and does not pick the picture of the day but prolificness can improve the chance of being picked. Wikipedia respects copyright and does not pay for images so it's great when a good photographer donates a lot of quality photos. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:06, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

a "suggestion for improvement" for Wikipedia

I would like to request some advice regarding where to send a certain idea. My idea is a "suggestion for improvement" for Wikipedia. The idea can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Schwartz#.22Idea.22_for_a_technical_feature (in a sub-section of my "User_Talk:" page) and the "background" for it, is found in the enclosing section : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Schwartz#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_8

Any advice? Thanks, --Mike Schwartz (talk) 01:59, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Try posting your suggestions at the village pump: WP:VP RudolfRed (talk) 02:16, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

We already have Wikipedia:Editnotice which I think is a better feature than displaying something on all diffs when it's irrelevant to most of them and may never be seen by the right editors. The list you edited does not have an edit notice. I haven't checked the page history but if the same type of edit is a common problem then you can suggest an edit notice for the page. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:22, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Depiction of Prophet Mohammed(PUBH)

Hi,

This is with regards to topic on Prophet Mohammed (Peace Be Upon Him),The article is good explains everything in details at the same time I am totally disappointed by the depiction about prophet Mohammed in the Article, Muslims around the world will never accept such depiction and infact Wiki seem to have hurt religious sentiments across the globe by displaying such potray.

Its my request that Wiki team acts fast on getting those depicted pictures removed from the article.

Thanks & Regards Mohammed Jaleel Ahmed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Getjaleel (talk • contribs) 02:21, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

See Talk:Muhammad/FAQ. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:27, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Hospital de Sant Pau Barcelona Spain.

Is this hospital open to the public for medical assistance? Does it actually house patients today? 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.130.132 (talk) 03:01, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. RudolfRed (talk) 03:41, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

"blame" command for Wikipedia

In the computer software version control system "git" there is a "blame" command which shows who has added each line. Is there an equivalent "blame" command for viewing Wikipedia articles, which shows who has added a particular line? JoshuSasori (talk) 05:41, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

See WP:WIKIBLAME. Dismas|^(talk) 06:49, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Look at the article's history page and click on "Revision history search". That takes you to Wikiblame. Dougweller (talk) 10:12, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Reg article on Malik Barkat Ali

Dear sirs I am not a registered editor but I help at Wikipedia by often editing and trying to improve various articles, relating to my interests. Today, i was editing an article on Malik Barkat Ali but someone made changes while I was editing and I lost all my edited text and refs etc. This article is a stub and needed help quite badly but now i dont know what to do, as I am not an experienced editor--is there any way to please recover what I wrote/added? Maybe some more experienced editor would kindly help? Thank you. 39.54.66.24 (talk) 05:51, 14 March 2012 (UTC)Prof (retd) Asad U Khwaja

These changes are the only ones you saved to that article. It looks like you did not save the major changes you made; unfortunately if they were not saved, then they cannot be recovered. You'll have to do them over. It might be better to work in smaller changes, with more frequent saving, to prevent this unfortunate loss of work from occuring again. --Jayron32 06:05, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Orphan Article

Hi, how do I stop my wiki article on David Domoney being an orphan article? What does it mean? Bobby987 (talk) 10:21, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

David Domoney (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Did you read the tag at the top of the article and click on the links within it? What they basically say is that there are no or very few articles that link to to the David Domoney article. So, to solve this, you can go to articles that mention Domoney and link his name in those articles. The links in the tag go into more depth about this though, so I suggest reading them. Dismas|^(talk) 10:30, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Sadly he doesn't seem to be mentioned in any other articles. You might be able to add mentions of his name to other articles where it's relevant, e.g. people he's worked with/for (be sure to reference your additions). You could also add his name in a "see also" section of an article if it's relevant, or maybe find a list he belongs on. It can be hard to remove an article's orphan status if there are not many articles about related topics. --Colapeninsula (talk) 15:36, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Oracle Business Process Architect

Hi Wikipedia, I have been working on ARIS since two years and it is getting migrated to Oracle BPA. I have searched for oracle BPA(Business Process Architect) article in wikipedia, but unable to get any article on it. Can you please upload any article on Oracle BPA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.67.4.113 (talk) 11:56, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

The disambiguation page BPA leads to Oracle BPA Suite (or a Wikipedia search for Oracle BPA will get you straight there), but that article is pretty thin. You may wish to expand it? - David Biddulph (talk) 12:42, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Where post about something that needs fixing (needing topic expertise) on a page?

If you're reading a Wikipedia page and something needs editing because it doesn't make sense, but you yourself lack the expertise on the topic to do it, where might you go about posting that request/suggestion/need?

Eg. on the Armenian Genocide page, one paragraph out of the blue starts like this -

• :'After the meeting with UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Turkey's PM announced that the Turkish Government might order the expulsion of all illegal Armenian immigrants from Turkey. The statement came after recent US House Committee and Swedish Parliament resolutions over the Armenian Genocide affirmation. He repeated the statement in a BBC interview immediately afterwards, declaring that there were 100,000 illegal Armenian citizens living in Turkey and that: '

There's no previous reference to a meeting or Gordon Brown, so something's missing and needs to be filled in. I thought maybe I should post that observation, so someone with the expertise could later fix it.

Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Playethic (talk • contribs) 13:58, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

The article's Talk page is the obvious first choice to raise the issue. You can also put various tags on the text such as "Citation needed", "Clarify", "When?", "Where?", "Who?" and so on. The tags and templates are summarised here. Roger (talk) 14:10, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Changing an article name from italics to non italics

Hi. I've checked with Wikipedia:Page name#Changing the displayed title and elsewhere but can't work out how one removes italics from an article title. The one I'm thinking of is Ravi Shankar's Music Festival from India, title of which appears in italics even though the name (in bold) in the first line of main text does not. Similar to Live Aid or Glastonbury Festival, this title should definitely not be italicised (only point of possible confusion with Ravi Shankar's Music Festival from India is that there was a studio album released later by the participants). Would be very grateful to know how to go about correcting this. Many thanks. JG66 (talk) 15:34, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

The problem is that the article is about both the revue and the records of the same name! The italics are there because names of records are italicized. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:40, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

The Album infobox automatically italicises the album title: see Template:Infobox album for more info and how to disable it. --Colapeninsula (talk) 15:41, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your replies. Yes, names of albums are italicised, and yes the album title will automatically be italicised in the album infobox (and it's correct in the second infobox, no problems there). But the principal identity is as a music festival - plus, the performers were also known as Ravi Shankar's Music Festival from India − in other words, the album was really secondary to that. Is there a way to retain itals in the album infobox but set as roman in the article title, do you know? JG66 (talk) 16:07, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Set the Italic title parameter to "no" (in other words, add "| Italic title = no" inside the infobox template). Gandalf61 (talk) 16:19, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

done. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:20, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Fabulous! Many thanks. JG66 (talk) 16:26, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Page views

Resolved

Is the pageview tool down again? It seems to not have updated since 3/11.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:42, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

If you mean [1], it looks like it's gotten up to 3/12. I suspect it will be fine in the long run. If you really need more up to date info, contact the technical village pump. --NYKevin @854, i.e. 19:29, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:36, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

How can I publish an article here?

I am trying to publish an article but couldn't do it!! Can anyone tell me how to do it? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oliviayys (talk • contribs) 17:47, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

I'd suggest starting by reading Wikipedia:Your first article. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:53, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

I would recommend playing with wiki buttons and code in your user space and not the main wiki like I did. What a lovely mess I made there. After you feel it is ready, just hit the submit for review button at the top of the article. You can move it without submit for review 1st, but it most likely will need minor changes that they will point out.--Canoe1967 (talk) 18:53, 14 March 2012 (UTC)(removed wrong info)Canoe1967 (talk)

While the advice to edit some articles is a good one; editors should get familiar with things like Wikipedia's house style, basic standards, and markup language before diving in right away, there are no technical restrictions on new users creating articles. autoconfirmation of a new account is necessary for some advanced tools like moving articles and uploading pictures, but newly created accounts can start making new articles from their very first edit. Which is not to say that a brand-new user should create an article right away, before learning the ropes, but they can. --Jayron32 18:57, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

editing an edit summary

Is there any way I can edit an incorrect edit summary of mine? Or should I just make a null edit with a revised edit summary? I'm getting used to a new keyboard and somehow I keep saving edits before I mean to.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 19:30, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

The latter. I don't believe there is a way, even for an admin, to change an edit summary. Dismas|^(talk) 19:40, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

If you really want to, you can perform a dummy edit. This is making an edit which has no visual impact on the page (changing spacing, for example) which you can use to correct a previous edit summary. If you really need to clarify of change something you said, that would be the best way; if there is no pressing need, it's probably not worth it. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 21:22, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Suggestions for article on Rodney Barnes

Rodney Barnes (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

This article is noted for deletion b/c of a lack of reference in the "life" area. Can someone please offer a recommendation?

Thanks

Missanthropic08 (talk) 19:43, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

It is not tagged for deletion, but it does need better sources (see WP:RS). Please also read WP:BIO which deals with the notability of people.--ukexpat (talk) 19:47, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

I think the OP is asking how to source the unverifiable content of that section. —teb728 t c 19:58, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

What the OP needs to do is find reliable sources for the information, things like books and magazines, and then cite those sources directly in the article. --Jayron32 21:24, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Page flow problem

Hi, in IE 9, the article White Horse has a big unsightly blank space at the top of the page where the TOC is not floating (as I understand it should) but is forcing all the content further down the page. This seems to be something to do with the Wiktionary link, {{wiktionarypar|white horse}}, since when I remove that link the page flows correctly. Does anyone know how to properly fix this glitch? 86.181.171.89 (talk) 21:41, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

I think I fixed. Can someone see if I did ok?--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:12, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, you did fix it. Now I know why I couldn't see the problem. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 22:15, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Sometimes a newer wikipedian like myself can spot simpler things as well as answer in a way that other new wikipedians can understand.--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:20, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, it has been fixed, but not in the way I intended. The original intention (not designed by me) was obviously to have the TOC floating at the right of the page, adjacent to the first lines of content. I suppose it's not a big deal, but I was trying to get that effect to work. 86.181.171.89 (talk) 23:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

I have figured out how to fix it so that it looks OK in IE9. Hopefully it has not broken the layout in any other browsers. 86.181.171.89 (talk) 01:06, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

See related discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bkonrad#White_Horse. Sorry this ending up getting split in two places. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.181.171.89 (talk) 01:29, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Copyright Information

Hello, I would like some clarification regarding use of Wikipedia information in a book. I am writing a cookbook and I have some extensive research to do with regards to food origin, description and usage. I am using Wikipedia as a jump off point and cross referencing with other information. Since I am using Wikipedia information in a derivative format to shape my content I would like to know if that is allowed under the Wikipedia laws as it pertains to free use of information for commercial use in a public domain and for resale without royalty.

Thank you for your help Caprice — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.6.234.227 (talk) 22:38, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

It is my understanding that you could copy the entire wikipedia (text only) and print it in book form. Images, sounds, video may have copyright issues. I doubt anyone would print the few million pages, let alone sell any copies. If my understanding is wrong, could someone please clarify?--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:46, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

(note add)Seems you can if you provide attribution according to Terms of use--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:54, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

What Canoe says is essentially correct. You can use the text, you just have to say where you got it from. If you're using one of the links to another site that you happened to find through Wikipedia, then you don't have to mention Wikipedia's involvement. It would be like mentioning Google every time you found information through a search with their engine. Dismas|^(talk) 22:59, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Incorrect zip code

I noticed it said Danville, Il zip code is 61832-61834. That is incorrect. Zip code 61833 belongs to Tilton, Il. that borders it on the South. Zip code 61834 is for mail boxes in the Post Office. It took alot to get our own zip code in Tilton (since Danville tried to incorporate us) at one time and we are proud of our growing town of 3,000 or so.

Thanks Tommy and Judy McIntyre — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.199.0.150 (talk) 23:16, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

You should be able to correct it with the 'edit' button, if the page isn't protected, or just lets us know which article/page it is and one of us could do it for you. ll should be IL?--Canoe1967 (talk) 23:28, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

The USPS "find zipcode" tool lists 61832-61834 as the zipcodes for Danville, IL, so the artice is correct. RudolfRed (talk) 23:31, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

I changed 61832-61834 in Danville, Illinois article to 61832 and 61834. Is USPS supplying correct information? I will verify which is correct.--Canoe1967 (talk) 23:38, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

(note)) I emailed USPS for verification.--Canoe1967 (talk) 23:54, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

According to the USPS 61833 is the ZIP code for Tilton and Danville

+ ::::According to the USPS 61833 is the ZIP code for Tilton and Danville

I think I solved the issue.

"The actual city in 61833 is... TILTON IL

Other acceptable cities for 61833 DANVILLE IL"

...is the response from the auto zip search at USPS site. Since the Tilton zip falls between the two Danville ones the USPS may deliver to Danville if the Tilton zip is used ("acceptable"). This may have been reflected on the article for Danville. The Danville article I will leave as I edited without the Tilton zip. I don't know if it should include a zip that actually isn't in Danville.--Canoe1967 (talk) 00:41, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

How to get rid of message on bottom of page?

A {reflist} is added, so why is this message at the bottom of Needle-exchange programme ? Tinton5 (talk) 23:23, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

It was because there was a <ref> after the reflist. But since it was in the list of references, the tag shouldn't have been there and I removed it.

Resolved

--ColinFine (talk) 23:31, 14 March 2012 (UTC)