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July 18[edit]

WATCHER[edit]

WHAT IS THE 'WATCHER' CATEGORY UNDER THE REVISION HISTORY AREA OF WIKIPEDIA PAGES? WHAT PURPOSE DOES IT SERVE AND HOW COULD I SIGN UP TO BE A WATCHER OF A PAGE?

DOES IT PROVIDE A SORT OF ALERT OR RSS FEED CONCERNING EDITS TO A PAGE? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.34.67.176 (talk) 01:04, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The watch feature is available to all logged in users. You can choose to receive emails when a watched page is edited. See more at Help:Watching pages. It's free and easy to create an account. Wikipedia:Why create an account? shows other benefits. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:18, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Your shift key is stuck. All capitals in print looks like SHOUTING. Britmax (talk) 07:40, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Changing crest on Christian Brothers, Fremantle site[edit]

Hello there. I have a long-standing account with Wikipedia but have not used it for some time and am not autoconfirmed. I wish to be able to change the logo on the Christian Brothers College, Fremantle site CBC Fremantle as they have been rebranded. I am the Communications and Marketing Coordinator at the College. Please let me know how I can go about this. Thank you. Cherie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sagebee (talk • contribs) 02:25, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I ripped the new one from your website and replaced it at File:Cbcfremantle crest.png. The website doesn't have a higher resolution one though. Have the graphics department provide one online in better resolution and we can use that. If you wish to keep copyright then we can only upload locally at about 300px wide max. The above file on commons probably violates any copyright you have on the logo. See: commons:Commons:Fair use and Wikipedia:Non-free content. Fair use and non-free mean about the same.--Canoe1967 (talk) 02:56, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. The crest I can see on your link is still the old one. I am the graphics department! :-) 300px wide will probably suffice. How can I supply a higher resolution online? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sagebee (talk • contribs) 06:28, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The file on Commons is a copyright violation and I have tagged it for deletion as such. Please follow the process set out at WP:IOWN to communicate permission to use, but note that permission must be for all purposes. Permission restricted to use only on Wikipedia is insufficient. If you are not prepared to release it on that basis, it can be uploaded to Wikipedia pursuant to the non-free content criteria, but it will have to be low-res.--ukexpat (talk) 13:28, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Fair use and non-free mean about the same - not quite, Wikipedia's non-free content criteria are more strict than "fair use".--ukexpat (talk) 13:23, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How to add table rows in new Visual Editor?[edit]

Hi,

I'm having a bit of trouble adding rows to table using the visual editor. Anyone care to help?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sdk1000 (talk • contribs) 03:28, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My best advice is to just use regular editing and wait a month or 20 until VE's many problems are fixed and lack of features is remedied. See Help:Table for information on playing with tables. Note that it says at WP:VE that "The content of some "complex" formatting, including tables and definition lists, will display and can be edited, but editors using VE cannot modify the structures or add new entries, such as an additional row for a table."--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:41, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Visual editor doesn't work with changing table layout. Wikipedia:VE#Limitations. RudolfRed (talk) 03:44, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

woody strode[edit]

I AM TRYING TO FINE PICTURES OF WOODY STRODE'S SECOND WIFE TINA TOMPSON STRODE AND PICTURE'S OF ANY KIDS OF HIS FIRST WIFE AND SECOND WIFE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.179.123.145 (talk) 05:15, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the leading space which upset the formatting of your question, and please stop SHOUTING. - David Biddulph (talk) 06:57, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. This page is for help with using or editing Wikipedia, which your question doesn't appear to be. You might find somebody who can answer yo at the Entertainment Reference Desk. --ColinFine (talk) 16:22, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Having problems adding a wikilink (may have found a bug in the timeline code)[edit]

So I was trying to fix a link on Devil May Cry on the timeline under "Gameplay".

Link to edit source

It's the last entry on the timeline (2013: DmC) that's giving me problems. No matter what I do, I can't get it to link. Even stranger, when I take off the "|DmC" and leave just the page's name, which is DmC: Devil May Cry, on the timeline it ignores the "DmC: " and just leaves the text as "Devil May Cry". I would have guessed that the code "DmC: " has special meaning on wiki code but I can link to it just fine normally (link should be working here for example.) It's just on the timeline where it goofs up.

--DeeBoFour20 (talk) 06:05, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The <timeline> code indeed doesn't like the "DmC:" and apparently wrongly considers it a prefix. Sounds like a bug to me. As a workaround I've linked to [[:DmC: Devil May Cry|DmC]] with an additional colon at the beginning. It looks strange but links to the correct article, and the pipe hides the crutch from a cursory glance. Huon (talk) 06:26, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Reported here. Huon (talk) 06:40, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Alleged malware link in the Laurie Penny article[edit]

User:Gary Dee has removed a link from the article on the British journalist Laurie Penny claiming (at Talk:Laurie Penny#Malware Link Removal) that a link is to malware. As far as I have been able to determine, this claim is entirely false, and I have reverted (see my own comments on the talk page), but I would be grateful for a third opinion. Philip Cross (talk) 09:54, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The hypersensitive malware-checking gubbins in use here, which normally blocks between 5% and 10% of links that I click on when checking AfC submission sources, allows me to visit the URL in question without even so much as popping up a warning. So I think there is no malware problem. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 10:13, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW McAfee Site Advisor gives Zero Books an all clear - I'm not sure what the other links listed on the talk page are, nor why they are there. Arjayay (talk) 10:19, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've used Sucuri to check our workplace website a few times and that claims that the site contains malicious spamming code (See here). And in all fairness Norton are consistently one of the worst products to use in tests. Not finding anything is not the same as the website being clean. Thanks ツ Jenova20 (email) 10:29, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Point noted, I have mentioned the security issue with the Zero Books website elsewhere, and an assumption my installed software might not be sufficient to identify a problem was my motivation for asking for another opinion. Gary Dee has removed a link to Zero Books from the Richard Seymour article, which I have also reverted. Rightly or wrongly, this user was busy removing alleged malware links from numerous articles earlier today (UTC/GMT). Philip Cross (talk) 10:38, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
collapsing lengthy explanation of the problem. Looie496 (talk) 22:34, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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A Second Possibility to check it (on a far more undeep level) are these links:

To keep it short: If someone will click the link from Johnhuntpublishing-Link at www.zero-books.net, in case he has no Security Software, or an updated OS, could be harmed by infection. All in all, as a threat like this is being detected, there is a no-go, for having links like this in a Wikipedia-article; evidence enough for removing those links once more. --Gary Dee 16:15, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Removing a url as malware is defensible. Removing an entire citation because a url (website) is possibly compromised is not acceptable. The url can be hidden with wikicode, or possibly a link at archive.org can be substituted, but it's unacceptable to simply remove an entire cite because one part is problematical. (I see another editor has put all of the citation back into the article except the url; better, though not best.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 04:11, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Germaine Greer[edit]

I am not and have never claimed to be a Professor Emerita of Warwick University. Please remove this untrue statement from my Wikipedia entry.

This may easily be verified by contacting the university.

This is not the first time I have tried to correct this error. I am tired of removing it from promotion materials etc.

Please do as I ask.

Thankyou,

Germaine Greer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.68.117.40 (talk) 11:08, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removed. I can find no support for the statement at [1] etc. Maproom (talk) 11:23, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Might I ask, no disrespect intended, if you normally remove information from somebody's article without proof that the person addressing you is who they really claim to be? As a new user, I purely ask to find out if you have to do this first, then enquire, or if you have a way to verify without editors knowing. Thank you. Bashir-ibn-john (talk) 12:18, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Don't mean to butt in but I thought I'd try to help (though helping others has been burning me lately). Anyway, we don't always just take their word for it. It appears that User:Maproom couldn't find any support for the item and therefore removed it. Per WP:BLP:
"All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be explicitly attributed to a reliable, published source, which is usually done with an inline citation. Contentious material about living persons (or in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion."
Indeed. The point is that the statement was unsourced and was challenged. The identity of the challenger is irrelevant. Gandalf61 (talk) 12:30, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
So, Maproom was correct in removing it. Dismas|(talk) 12:24, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It would have been wrong of me to assume that 77.68.117.40 is in fact Germaine Greer (and I have no way of checking). In any case, the subject of an article has no veto over its contents. But it was easy to check the truth of the disputed statement – Warwick University, like most universities, has a web site which lists its academic staff. As I said above, I failed to find Germaine Greer on that list. Maproom (talk) 12:50, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:BIOSELF there is a process (via WP:OTRS) for the subject of an article to identify themselves to the Foundation, but as noted above, in a case like this where a statement in a BLP is challenged, confirmation of the identity of the challenger isn't necessary.--ukexpat (talk) 13:34, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Google search Germaine Greer Professor Emerita University of Warwick finds many reliable sources saying Germaine Greer is Professor Emerita at University of Warwick. The first is http://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/12/opinion/greer-women-and-guilt which is an article written by Germaine Greer herself! In all fairness, the Professor Emerita claim is in an Editor's note at the start, but if you are Germaine Greer then I suggest you also ask CNN to remove the claim. Normally that article alone would be a sufficient source for Wikipedia, and there are many others. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:33, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The passage you refer to reads "Editor's note: Germaine Greer, an Australian academic and journalist, is the author of "The Female Eunuch," "Sex and Destiny," "The Change," "Shakespeare's Wife" and "The Whole Woman." She is professor emerita of English literature and comparative studies at the University of Warwick in England." It was not written by Ms. Greer, but by a CNN editor; and was probably copied from the Wikipedia article. If Wikipedia itself does not qualify as a reliable source, I think a CNN reporter copying a section of it doesn't either. Maproom (talk) 18:55, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Wikipedia has the problem now that much of the non-Wikipedia world uses Wikipedia as a source. If we stuff it up, the error will be copied by others. HiLo48 (talk) 19:17, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As my Google search shows, the claim is in many reliable sources. I doubt CNN copied it from Wikipedia. It was added to Wikipedia 14 August 2008.[2] http://www.shakespearelaw.org/ is the official website of a conference hosted by the University of Warwick itself in July 2007. The front page links to Conference programme and Abstracts and Speakers. Both are from the time of the conference and say "Germaine Greer, Emeritus Professor of English and Comparative Studies at Warwick University". This claim is in so many reliable sources, including an official source, that it may be time we ask 77.68.117.40 to either contact WP:OTRS or refer to a public statement in a reliable source saying it's untrue. The latter could also be used to convince people outside Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:50, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I bet you're glad I asked about verifying the identity of the person making the request now :) I scare myself sometimes... Bashir-ibn-john (talk) 23:04, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see a double issue here; was she ever a professor, or are the sources incorrect (or Citogenesis)? And is she still a professor if she ever was? She's not on their records now, but that doesn't mean she was never there. The only way this can be fully cleared up in reference to the IP's opening statement is if they identify in a manner that we can verify as Greer. Failing that, a request for information could be submitted to the university in question.  drewmunn  talk  07:38, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

[3] Maproom (talk) 18:22, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Interwiki link required[edit]

Can somebody create a link between Gare de Port-Saint-Père-Saint-Mars on English wikipedia and "Gare de Port-Saint-Père - Saint-Mars" on the French. I can see languages on the left had side when I edit the English page but nothing to click to add links, I run IE8, Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 11:14, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has linked them.[4] I see "Edit links" at Gare de Port-Saint-Père-Saint-Mars#p-lang in IE9, also with compatibility mode enabled. There have been problems with IE8 previously (bugzilla:44228) but I thought it was supposed to work now. What is your skin at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering? Does it look like you can edit wikidata:Q3097322? Do you have compatibility mode enabled to mimic IE7? It's indicated by a blue broken page icon in the address bar. If it's blue then try clicking it to make it grey so compatibility mode is disabled. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:36, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think I may now have the option to Edit Links, can someone point me in the direction of how to use it, as I have another station requiring a link to the French article adding... Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 09:54, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'll start a new topiic below for visibility, Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 14:11, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Change background color of Template:User citizen[edit]

How to change background color? (Category:Nationality user templates) Ancientsteppe (talk) 17:32, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You can probably do it with a corresponding "Template:User in ..." in Category:Nation of residence user templates, for example {{User in Mongolia}}. Which nationality and which color do you want? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:48, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

White color: Template:User citizen Mongolia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ancientsteppe (talk • contribs) 17:15, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As PrimeHunter said above, the detail is in Template:User in Mongolia. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:24, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, this will say citizen with white background: {{User in Mongolia|20|color=white}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:41, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Class Size Re-Direct[edit]

To whom it may concern,

I write this message to request a redirect change. As it stands, when I type in "class size," it redirects me to student-teacher ratio which is a completely different thing in the realm of education (while still very much related). If at all possible, could "class size" instead be redirected to the "class size reduction" Wikipedia entry?

Thank you so much and I look forward to hearing from you soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Classszmatters (talk • contribs) 14:22, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Class size (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
You seem to have worked out how to do this for yourself. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:25, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If you're asking here for us to overrule the opinion of two other editors who think the redirect should go to student-teacher ratio, sorry, that's not going to happen. The student-teacher ratio article mentions "class size" in the first caption and "smaller classes" in the second paragraph, so it's not obvious that the current redirect (as set out by the other editors) is wrong. In any case, if you want to get the redirect to be as you propose, you need to post at Talk:Student–teacher ratio, and see if you can get the majority of other editors to agree with your view that the redirect should not go to that article. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 04:04, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Allo Allo[edit]

Hi some of the episodes seem to be missing there were 89 Von Flockenstuffen In Command series 7 episode 1, Free at last 7 2, Eloping to England series 7 3 and others I put gold on and the titles where not on your site when I searched them the ones I was looking for the searches said series 7 but they aren't there. http://sharetv.org/shows/allo_allo_uk/season_7 share tv season 7. I don't know if others are missing http://sharetv.org/shows/allo_allo_uk/guides share tv all seasons/ episodes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.198.104.25 (talk) 15:32, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Series 7 episode 1 is 'Allo 'Allo! (series 7)#A Quiet Honeymoon which says: "Alternate titles: Von Flockenstuffen in Command". After that, episode 2 "An Almighty Bang" says "Alternate titles: Free at Last!". And episode 3 "Fleeing Monks" says "Alternate titles: Eloping to England". PrimeHunter (talk) 17:03, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article Suitability[edit]

I'm composing a candidate article on a particular type of "failure mode and effect analysis" (relevant to reliability engineering) and I want to (1) clarify a possible conflict of interest, and (2) address listing my own work as a citation. ("Failure Mode and Effects Analysis" is a current Wikipedia article.)

Although I decided to write the article and did so on my own, I have a particular interest in the topic because I've worked with it for my current employer and we do the kind of analysis that is the topic of the article. Unfortunately, there are very few published references on this topic (a text cited in "Further Reading" is one of the few) and one of the key references cited in the article is a paper that I wrote on the topic. This paper was peer reviewed and published by one outside organization (and thereafter published in Proceedings of the 2008 Reliability and Maintainability Symposium, www.rams.org). The published paper was essentially reprinted by a second organization that solicited my permission to do so (it was published in Journal of System Safety). Therefore, while I have tried to make the article as factual as possible, some of the article's statements reflect my own engineering judgment based on part-time research on the topic for at least 10 years. The intent of the article is to present facts that would be useful for anyone attempting to perform the subject analysis, and to alert readers to recognize where their own engineering judgment may be required. Question is, how to proceed? Thanks. Bentpins (talk) 15:48, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Bentpins: That there are very few published articles on the topic means that it most likely fails to meet our requirements for a separate article. It sounds to me as if you should - at most - add a section to the existing article, Failure mode and effects analysis. And you should limit what you add to information that is contained in those articles. If you know something personally, but it's not published, it is not acceptable to be in a Wikipedia article because it fails our Verifiability policy. (And we classify it as original research, somethin also not acceptable.) Finally, keep in mind that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, with the goal of providing overviews of information. Per yet another policy (yes, there are a lot), Wikipedia is not, for example, a guide or a how-to manual. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 01:57, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Having said all that (which is entirely true), there is technically nothing wrong with using a reference to a published piece of your own work in an article you yourself have written, provided that the citation is relevant to the point you are making in the article and that the publication is a reliable source of information— virtually all peer-reviewed journals are considered reliable sources, and it sounds like your publication meets this standard of reliability. A single reference in an article is not usually enough to constitute notability, however, which is why Wikipedia requires multiple such references to such sources to establish notability (and not merely that the subject of the article exists, which is obviously also important but not enough to signify its notability). You must also tread very carefully through potential conflicts of interest that may arise from such a reference. Incorporating your own work into an article without violating that policy is like dancing on a spinning plate: it can be done, but you'd better watch your footing! Good luck! KDS4444Talk 13:37, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Table of contents taking up whole width of page[edit]

Every article I visit now has this very wide table of contents. Why is this happening? I didn't change any preferences? Are other people seeing this? If it's just me, how to fix it please? Lesion (talk) 19:15, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm also facing this issue. It's been driving me nuts! – Recollected • 19:49, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Same here. Though something was wrong with the page I was looking at, tried to learn how to fix it before realizing it might be a glitch. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:04, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This was a temporary glitch. If you are still seeing it, then bypass your browser cache - that's Ctrl+F5 in most browsers. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:07, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! That worked for me. Dismas|(talk) 20:09, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, a glitch. Had to refresh page a few times with hold ctrl + click refresh (chrome), now TOC is normal again. Thank you. Lesion (talk) 21:40, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This keeps happening. Clearing browser cache works for a while then the problem returns later... Lesion (talk) 03:19, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Changing the color of a country on a map[edit]

The article Sub-Saharan Africa lists South Sudan as being in North Africa, but the UN classifies the country as being in East Africa. How do I change the color of South Sudan on the Map? 108.0.244.168 (talk) 19:41, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know, there are no facilities within Wikipedia for editing graphics. You (or somebody) will have to edit the image file outside Wikipedia, and reupload it. I suggest you ask at the Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Map workshop. --ColinFine (talk) 19:50, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have the skills to make the change, but I am not totally clear about what you want. I think you are talking about the first map in the Sub-Saharan Africa article, and you want South Sudan switched from mid-green to dark green. Is that right? Maproom (talk) 22:32, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That must be it, and the description should also be updated. The source is http://unstats.un.org/unsd/methods/m49/m49regin.htm at the United Nations. commons:File:Sub-Saharan Africa definition UN.png is currently based on the 20 September 2011 version of the UN page which was still displayed 8 October 2012 [5] and listed South Sudan under "Northern Africa". The current UN page has South Sudan under "Eastern Africa". All other Eastern Africa countries in the map are dark green. Western and Southern Africa are also dark green. The UN page says: "The designation sub-Saharan Africa is commonly used to indicate all of Africa except northern Africa, with the Sudan included in sub-Saharan Africa." So today it's only Sudan and not South Sudan which is an exception. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:28, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Now done. Well, probably. The effect of my upload has not yet percolated through, but this can often take a while. Maproom (talk) 20:51, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's taken effect now. Maproom (talk) 07:42, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

PRstore Wikipedia Entry[edit]

PRstore (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

The original PRstore content for Wikipedia submitted by Scott Hepburn with references has been deleted. In its place are three terse negative entries about the company and its principals, including myself. I attempted to expand on this text through the editing process to provide additional history and context but this revised entry was deleted and "reverted" to the original negative text only. This is not right. We should be able to provide additional historical detail and context and not simply have the company portrayed with these three negative posts which were obviously posted by "haters." This is neither accurate nor fair. We want to be able to edit the text and have our edits accepted. Please let me know how we can make this right. Thank you for your assistance. Mike Butler, Founder, PRstore — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.199.128.162 (talk) 21:54, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Most of your changes have been made without any explanation or comment, and many of them have been unexplained removal of material: this tends to ring the "vandalism" bell for many people; making the same changes again without discussing them on the talk page is also likely to be seen as disruptive editing.
As far as I can see, the material you removed about the legal affairs were referenced to what appear to be reliable sources. This again makes removing them without explanation look like disruptive behaviour. When you added information to those sections, it was without references, and somebody very properly removed it.
What you need to do is
  • First, and most importantly, read our policy on conflict of interest, and understand why it is a very bad idea for you to be editing the article at all,.
  • Then, if there are things that you would like changed in the article, put your suggestions, with supporting citations to reliable independent sources, on the article's talk page Talk:PRstore, for uninvolved editors to consider them and edit the article. If it is the case that the information about legal process is incomplete or out of date, then Wikipedia would very much like it to be corrected or brought up to date - with solid citations. Please work within our processes and policies to make this happen. --ColinFine (talk) 22:19, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You should also be aware that the article is now being watched by impartial editors. Further attempts to delete well-referenced criticism of the company, or to use the article for promotional purposes, will be reverted. Maproom (talk) 22:42, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Difficulties in start of video[edit]

I want to know if File:NSApolygraphvideo.webm was fully/correctly uploaded. When I try to start the video with the "play" button it doesn't start but when I move the dial the video content does go forward. Is this an issue with my browser, or does the upload need to be changed? WhisperToMe (talk) 23:07, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I just tried to view the video by clicking in the "Play" button: my browser (Firefox 22.0) opened up a new window, with the cover image of the video on it, but the video did not play. Sum'p'in is up wid dis. KDS4444Talk 13:44, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't play for me in the browser, either, but when I downloaded it, mplayer played it (at least, the first few minutes) with no trouble. —rybec 00:12, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Xaverian High School[edit]

Why is Jason Calacanis notable as Co-founder of Weblogs, but the other Co-founder not? Brian Alvey is notable in his own right. Who made the wrong decision to,exclude him? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.201.175 (talk) 23:51, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He was removed by a vandal. I have restored him. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:24, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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