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March 23

Anchors

I just recieved this probably well-deserved admonishment from another editor. It is about HTML anchors which I readily admit to never having heard of before. I have never in my 6 years of Wikipedia editing encountered these templates in the middle of articles before. So, please, could anyone explain to me precisely what this does, and hopefully lead me to some guideline pages that explains what the established consensus about their use on Wikipedia currently is. [[Template:Anchor]] and its corresponding talk page doesn't provide anything but purely technical information on a level which is pure gibberish to me. --Saddhiyama (talk) 00:20, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Does WP:Anchor help? It also has some links to additional help pages. RudolfRed (talk) 00:35, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. It helps as much as I learned it is an alternative to the usual section wikilinking. But unfortunately it doesn't reveal what the advantages of this method is, especially considering that this anchor-method seem to require cluttering up the target article with html code, something that ordinary wikilinking doesn't while being just as efficient, nor when or why one method is preferred over the other. --Saddhiyama (talk) 00:48, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Template:Anchor#Examples says: "links via [[articlename#foo]] would remain valid even if the section were renamed". The link Paperback#Mass-market paperback only works as long as the section is called exactly that. The use of {{anchor|mmp}} in [1] means that the link Paperback#mmp will continue to work if the section is renamed (but not if the anchor template is removed). PrimeHunter (talk) 01:11, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

They are generally used to create links to places within sections, on the rare occasion you want to get that specific. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 05:26, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect statement

However, he had voluntary applied for a United States passport in July 2012 after that oath. On 7 February 2013, the Supreme Court ruled the election void.[11][12]

This statement is incorrect:

Corrections:

However, he had voluntary applied for a United States passport in June 2010; and a TCI passport in October 2012. (Note, oath was October 25, 2012). On 7 February 2013, the Supreme Court ruled the election void.[11][12] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.103.28.174 (talk) 00:39, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Which article are you referring to?--ukexpat (talk) 00:42, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

After doing a Google search, it appears that they're referring to Turks and Caicos Islands general election, 2012. Dismas|^(talk) 01:19, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

If you can improve an article, preferably with a citation to a reliable source, feel free to do so. --ColinFine (talk) 11:36, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguation Links

Hi, I wrote some disambiguation links that are wrong, can anyone please provide samples or suggestions of how to do disambiguation link? 00:58, 23 March 2013‎ --Superwomanyaya ( talk | contribs )‎

You didn't ask the question in the right place. I found it in the March 19 archive, when you actually asked the question on March 23. Anyway, tell me what problem you're having and I'll try to help.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 17:55, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

I looked at your contributions and it looks like you figured out piped links. I corrected one for you as it didn't follow the usual pattern of naming.

Please sign your name on all talk pages.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:08, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

On new userbox

Hi, I want to make a minor modification to this userbox to make it look like this (I changed the PHD for the little hat icon) Should I create a new userbox? How can I do that? Regards. Gaba ^(talk) 01:09, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

What I did was created a subpage of my userpage (User:FrigidNinja/Ubox) and placed the template there. You could create something like User:Gaba_p/Userbox. FrigidNinja 03:43, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Gaba ^(talk) 14:50, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Viewing high-quality photos on Wikipedia

Hi .. Having an intermittent problem viewing high-quality images on Wikipedia. I've searched the archives, Googled this and haven't found much. It seems more a matter of the DPI (usually 300+/-) more than the resolution.

Anyway, the bottom 20-30% of the image appears blank. I've tried with many browsers (IE, Firefox, Chrome, etc). Even to refresh the image shortly after: no change. Or if I save the image locally and open with every image view/edit app I have: no change. The empty bottom part appears either a solid color or a pixelated color palette.

Gotta think either 1] the images are corrupt, or 2] an ISP issue for WP or me: something with packet size or router MTU settings. Since it works on some days and not others, I'd say 1] is out. The odd thing is, even when this happens, the thumbnail on a local save appears normal (maybe thumbnail images are stored separately in the header?) Ruled out video driver issues by opening the saves on different machines with different cards (even on an iPhone). I've never experienced this outside of Wikipedia. Anyone heard of this? TIA.

Two of many examples are below (only full-res versions affected): "124_-_Machu_Picchu_-_Juin_2009.jpg" - "The_Wasatch_Front_-_wickenden.jpg" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trep26 (talk • contribs) 03:52, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello, firstly, for technical issues you will generally get better, more detailed replies at the Village Pump/Technical noticeboard and secondly, if you link the articles or files concerned then it is much easier to understand what you are talking about, examine the issue(s).

Taking a random stab, I arrived at the Macchu Picchu WP page and clicked on the first image file, File:80_-_Machu_Picchu_-_Juin_2009_-_edit.2.jpg, which I assume is similar to the images you are trying to view, and on the image page there is a template stating "Warning: Some browsers may have trouble displaying this image at full resolution: This image has a large number of pixels and may either not load properly or cause your browser to freeze."

Also this image is 75MB, 10,000 × 9,760 pixels, which would need at least a couple of football fields of flat-screen TVs to display in its entirety (to my non-technical mind). CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 12:53, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Oh shee-ite, sorry about that, when I hit save my computer expploded and I have just spent 10 minutes getting control back as I have a 1.5mb connection, so the hi-res photo sent my browser haywire, thanks ChamalN for rescuing the Help Desk, will remember those two dots before the image name to stop it displaying. To OP, this is why hi-res images do not display all that well, lol. CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 13:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey CaptainScreebo - thx for responding. I'm just wondering how much the browser really has to do with it? Even if I right-click the "Full Resolution" link and save it rather than trying to open it in a browser - then try to open with a photo editor, I have this problem (it's random - about 1/2 of the time, the same photo saves or opens normally, whether in a browser or external app). Well, I'll try the VPT - appreciate the suggestion, I hadn't heard of that board before. --Trep26 (talk) 22:26, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Images and getting them visible

Hi

I am trying to add in some images to the page Conformal coating . Seems straightforward. I am using wikimedia Commons to do this. I put the first image in and it appeared. Great stuff. I put a couple more in and they are now disappearing leaving text only. Currently, only one image is visible. Can you explain why, do I need to do something or is there a time delay on publishing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leehitchens (talk • contribs) 10:55, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Your contribution record on Commons shows that you've uploaded only one file there. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:15, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

The article shows a red link instead of the image because the image file doesn't exist. It looks like your files were deleted on Commons because of copyright violations. See Commons:Licensing and Commons:Deletion policy. I'm afraid there's nothing we can do at Wikipedia for issues on Commons though, so if you want any further details, you could try asking the admin who deleted them or at the Commons Help Desk. Chamal ^T•C 11:45, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

And I believe the remaining file is also a copyright infringement and must be deleted. I have asked on the commons copyright help desk. --ColinFine (talk) 11:50, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

As no message was left for you at your Commons talk page telling you about the deletions, here are the links to the deletion log entries : [2], [3] and [4].--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:01, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Translation of existing articles

Hi,

I've seen several interesting articles written in English that I would like to translate to Swedish, which is my native language. Since I am more or less fluent in English it should be no problem for me and I think this could benefit Swedish readers.

I have searched the FAQ for information about how to do this, but so far I have only seen a more general description about how to become a translator and how to add links between pages, but these are my questions:

a) is it ok to make an exact translation of the English article to Swedish and then to add the translated page to the Swedish wiki?

b) do I have to contact the author of the English article before I begin the translation?

c) in the case of links, when the English article is linked to other articles that have no corresponding Swedish translation, should I omit the link, or should I add a link to the English article or should I add an empty link (i.e. a link to an article not yet created)?

d) If there exists an article in Swedish on the same subject already and that article is only started, can I write the translation anyway as an expansion of that article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChristerX (talk • contribs) 15:16, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Have you seen the Wp:Translate us guide? Roger (talk) 16:05, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the link to this guide - it is more or less what I was looking for. Some questions remain, but I think I can get started now and translate an article following the steps in the guide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChristerX (talk • contribs) 07:34, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Erroneous edit to a wiki page/Restore to previous

There was an accidental edit made to my wiki page last week, how can I restore the page to its previous content. The change was made on Wednesday 3/20/2013. How can I restore the page to the content before the edit was made that day? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.199.102.133 (talk) 15:42, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

According to your edit record you made no edits before today. As an unregistered editor you are only identified by the IP address you computer happens to be on, this can change quite often. What do you mean by "my wiki page"? You do not have a user page. Roger (talk) 16:25, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

My guess this is about David Nemec, where 70.199.102.133 has now quite properly deleted some information about his family, that was not relevant to the article. Maproom (talk) 17:12, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

References

I am trying to edit a current wiki page titled HighPoint, North Carolina. I am trying to figure out how to do sources and references and I attempt to see the reference list at the end of the edit box but all that comes up is reflist(2). What does this mean? How can I add references to the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZachKrumholz (talk • contribs) 19:44, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Have you tried reading Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners? Rojomoke (talk) 19:56, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

When you are reading an article and see a references section near the bottom populated by a series of numbered citations, you might think that if you edit the page, you will see those citations typed in that section and be able to edit them. However, normally what you will see is code similar to this:

     ==References==

   {{Reflist}} or <references/>

The text of citations is actually in the body of the article, directly next to statements or paragraphs the citations support, using <ref>(citation)</ref> tags, which display as footnotes (e.g.^[1][2]) when you are reading an article. The template code shown above in the references section colates and displays all of the citations within the article in a numbered list in which the numbers correspond to the footnote numbers in the text. By clicking on the ^ symbol next to a citation display, you can easily find exactly where in the body of the article the citation text appears in order to edit it. For more, please see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:31, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Note that there is a {{Reflist|refs=references}} form of that template that is occasionally used, in which the reference text is actually placed in the reference section itself instead of where it is referred to. I personally prefer this method, but it's not widely used. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 21:30, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

No, not widely used, but I think it is useful, and encourage more widespread use. See Wp:LDR for more info.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 21:20, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Rose Breeding - List of Rose Breeders

Only 2 Australian rose breeders are listed. As Australian Registrar of New Rose Names, an office bearer of National Rose Society of Australia, Treasurer and Editor of Australian Rose Breeders Association, and the custodian of the list of Australian Bred Roses and Australian Rose Breeders, I can enhance your list of rose breeders with topical Australian content. For example, Warren Millington has bred and registered over 150 roses and is currently engaged in this activity. I just want to be sure if allowed, to go about it in the right way. Any help will be much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newlozza (talk • contribs) 20:01, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

I can't tell if you would have a conflict-of-interest or not. Please read that link for guidance. If you don't, then be bold, and make sure your additions are backed by reliable sources. RudolfRed (talk) 20:04, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Usually, list articles contain only entries that have, or could have, articles of their own. So if the individuals you would like to add are notable by Wikipedia's standards (i.e. have been written about in multiple reliable sources, independent of themselves) then you may add them to the list with links, like:

* [[Warren Millington]]

which will create a link to the article on him if one exists, or a red link if the article does not yet exist. But if you add a number of people for whom the independent references really don't exist, then they are liable to be removed again. --ColinFine (talk) 16:42, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Review

I reverted a vandal on Burnie Burns instead of simply rejecting the changes, as I wanted to make it easier to warn them using Twinkle. For some strange reason, however, my edit was not automatically checked, even though I hold the reviewer permission. Does anyone know why? FrigidNinja 20:40, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

WP edits from RFC1918 IPs

This is kinda strange: [5]

Is there a way to track those edits down? 2602:100:4759:4D52:8DB5:B1F6:753E:45E (talk) 21:29, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Interesting. Contribs for 10.0.0.8 and others show some reasonable, some test, and some outright vandalism, usually over a fairly short time frame. I'm guessing that the actual IP address or Username has been corrupted or intentionally obscured by a local network address. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 21:39, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Look in the special page for contribs, for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/10.0.0.3. RudolfRed (talk) 21:41, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

*facepalm*. Thanks guys! 2602:100:4759:4D52:8DB5:B1F6:753E:45E (talk) 21:52, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

There's a template for that! {{Facepalm}} --> Facepalm.--ukexpat (talk) 15:37, 25 March 2013 (UTC)