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December 20

Information missing in the page "Shahrasti upazila, Chandpur, Bangladesh".

Dear wikipedia,

There is a page called "Shahrasti upazila, Chandpur, Bangladesh". Now, as you all know, Bangladesh is a country in South Asia and Chandpur is a district there. Shahrasti is a part of the district of Chandpur. What is missing is that Shahrasti upazila was founded by my grandfather, namely Husain Ahmed, ex-head of Bangladesh Federal police. Now, his contributions to it's development has already been mentioned, but the fact that he is the founder of Shahrasti, is missing. Please add this bit of information as soon as possible.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.211.188.190 (talk • contribs)

Request the edit on the article talk page, citing a reliable source. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:12, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

That is Talk: Shahrasti Upazila. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:14, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

I wonder how anyone can "found" a district with an area of 60 square miles and including 176 villages. Maproom (talk) 08:48, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

The OP probably means that his grandfather established the government of the administrative district, possibly either at the time of the revolution making Bangladesh independent of Pakistan, or earlier at the time of the independence of Pakistan from the British Empire. In any event, the edit should be requested on the talk page with a reliable source. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:35, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

It is even possible that the district was established under British rule. Rowan County, North Carolina in the United States is just one example of such a district.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:56, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Deletion of new page incorrect sourcing of 1st article written

I have an article that I have worked on for many hour,days and week over the years. There is a pro soccer player that played for that team from 1992-1999 winning two championships yet the source was not official from that team. A volunteer took it upon themselves to take on that huge burden because he did it for free to become an insider and it has worked because now is writing articles and being paid to do so. writing journalism about the team because wanted to hang out,mingle,be seen with producer player'ss hence the term Kicksfan. The source also asks for help on the very site he has written about because there is no room or the just doesn't know. Its actually worse because the source states incorrect assumptions or of what he perceives as being correct. I believe that he is not doing so in malice or bad will but at best his so called facts are negligent because it effects that players salary. If one person gets two championship and another doesn't,guess who gets the bigger salary or the job if both were interviewing for the same job. He has been cand ontacted numerous times but hi answer is that he doesn't have all the stats for out of town games because the facts are that this article makes the former pro athlete an average player when in fact he was a great one. This mental ping pong goes back and forth with no clear or attempt to find the correct sources. If wikipedia does not assume,that there is a chance of having an article on wiki with incorrect assumptions well then I will quit. My time is not worth bias contributions or edditing.I This is my last attempt to get the info corrected or t let me know how can one prove that another's site has incorrect facts which wikipedia is sourcing an pretty soon that incorrect fact became a souced facts by many as if musical chairs is the game being played and its one big word salad with ego's attempting to win articles completed rather than responsible journalism. I ask you, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM ME THE AUTHOR OF THIS ARICLE TO PROVE THAT THIS ARTICLES HAS INCORRECT FACTS THAT COULD BE,ACTUALLY ARE EFFECTING HIS SALARY SO IN SHORT,what can one do. Have photos of the team picture every year that the team existed? Well guess what, if a photograph of that teams official team picture isn't enough proof that the player played from 1992-1999 then what is? What or how can I do to source official team photographs for the years that player played. If thats not short of being right their and correct,then WHAT IS? I apologize for the grammar and spelling,its because this is very frustrating and I don't have the time to go back and check my spelling. Thank you and I look forward to your answer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soccerumors (talk • contribs) 02:36, 20 December 2014‎

We aren't mind-readers. Which article are you referring to? AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:09, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

The article is probably Nick Efthimiou. To the original poster, your post is too long, difficult to read. Can you summarize it without a wall of text? Robert McClenon (talk) 04:20, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

The Nick Efthimiou article was created back in October 2011 - it isn't new. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:29, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Soccerumors many of us spend lots of time improving Wikipedia, so I for one am not impressed by how much time you have spent on an article. What I'm impressed by is people following Wikipedia policies on notability, referencing, and working with other editors even when we disagree. If there is unreferenced information in an article, you may remove it. If you have different information that is cited to a reliable published source, you may add it to the article. You should not add unsourced information or remove properly sourced information. If you and other editors disagree, you should all discuss it on the article's talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 13:12, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Why the page was deleted?

Hello,

My name is Arefin Spursho and I am a self employed person running the company Zircon Limited in Bangladesh. I would like you to re-consider the article as i could not find any promotional items so far. If you think there are any promotional items than please let me know I will re write the article. It is not a spam neither a promotional campaign. The information are regarding my company Zircon Limited.

Kind Regards,

Arefin Spursho Managing Director Zircon Limited — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spoursho88 (talk • contribs)

Please see the advice on your talk page. In addition to the issues of conflict of interest and writing style, you would have to consider carefully whether such an article would satisfy our notability requirements for companies: Noyster (talk), 11:11, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Batch nominations

In Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2014_November_29#Category:Grand_Crosses_of_the_Order_of_Merit_of_the_Republic_of_Poland I would be happy to do a batch nomination for 200+ categories. Is there any efficient way to tag so many categories, apart from manually opening every individual category, pasting the tag and saving it? Marcocapelle (talk) 09:22, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

@Marcocapelle: If you post at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks, one of the regular helpers there may help out. There's a similar request in the archives at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks/Archive_6#CfR_tagging. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:44, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! Marcocapelle (talk) 10:23, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

User:Blueye

Hi. Many years I'm Wikipedian on Polish wiki and other projects. My account is merged to almost all other languages/projects. One of most problematics exception is that en.wiki makes some problem. Few years pass and problem still the same. Can someone help with that? I want to edit on english wersion under my nickname. --89.71.65.202 (talk) 09:36, 20 December 2014 (UTC) (Blueye)

Special:Log/Blueye shows somebody registered the name at the English Wikipedia in January 2007, before your Polish account in 2008. The account has no edits so you can request the name at Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:48, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Ok, funny, that no one clear that long time ago, when I ask for help. I heard only, that "there was some problems". I'll do that. Thank you. --89.71.65.202 (talk) 11:33, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

China Update (semi-protected)

Please someone for update China (now 1st-largest economy by both nominal total GDP and purchasing power parity (PPP))

If you wish a change to a semi-protected article, please post on that article's talk page (not here), with precisely what changes you think should be made, and a citation to a reliable published source for that information; and add the template {{edit semi-protected}} to your submission. --ColinFine (talk) 13:17, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Didn't even try to help me

Didn't hellp me or attempt to. Si Trew (talk) 12:40, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Si. It's very hard for anybody to help you when you don't give us the slightest clue what help you were wanting. --ColinFine (talk) 13:20, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Si Trew is an autoreviewer, reviewer & rollbacker with 26,874 edits - his next edit was to blank the page China - I wonder if his account has been compromised? - Arjayay (talk) 15:28, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

"HANDS UP" FALSE NARRATIVE

The "Hands UP" pose forwards an inaccurate portrayal of the Brown shooting. On the December 1, 2014 edition of CNN Tonight, former police officer David Klinger underlined that "all the forensic evidence indicates that it wasn't Brown with his hands up standing still. All the evidence indicates that he was coming back at Officer [Darren] Wilson." Klinger also asserted that "it's unfortunate that people are getting behind the 'hands up, don't shoot,' as opposed to we have grave concerns about the way that policing operates in the United States." Host Don Lemon replied to this by wondering, "So the question is, this 'hands up' rallying cry has – is it a false narrative that people are using to fit their own agenda?"

Perhaps the reason for this disinterest in the ballistics report, autopsies and other similar information is that for at least some of Brown’s supporters the facts are, apparently, largely irrelevant because Brown is a metaphorical “symbol” of injustice regardless of what actually happened. A related reason may be that working through this information is time-consuming — and thus beyond the capacity of many commentators. In contrast, the grand jury painstakingly heard sworn testimony from more than 60 witnesses, which is now collected in several thousand pages of transcripts. Reviewing these transcripts reveals some important and essentially indisputable facts. And those facts confirm many critical aspects of Wilson’s account.

As those who have been following the case closely are aware, Wilson testified before the grand jury that Brown reached for his (Wilson’s) gun and a struggle for the gun followed, during which Wilson fired two shots. Later, Wilson pursued Brown and, after he turned and then charged toward Wilson, fired multiple shots bringing him to the ground about 8 to 10 feet away from him.

The physical evidence is consistent with his testimony. The County Medical Examiner was one of the first witnesses to testify before the grand jury. He explained the autopsy he conducted on Brown. The ME found a tangential injury on Brown’s right thumb that traveled along the surface of the thumb — grand jury testimony Volume 3 (Sept. 9), page 114, line 12 etc. (hereafter cited by just page and line number). The ME further explained that he saw what appeared to be “soot” in the wound, which was consistent with a shot from close range (116:22). Indeed, based on his training and expertise, the ME thought that the soot would be indicative of the gun that fired the bullet causing the wound having been only 6 to 9 inches away (118:12). The soot was consistent with that discharged from a gun (122:13). The official report from the Office of Medical Examiner later confirmed that “the previously described particles of foreign particulate matter are consistent with products that are discharged from the barrel of a firearm.”

The significance of this wound and related physical evidence is that it places Brown’s right hand within 6 to 9 inches of the barrel of Wilson’s firearm. This physical evidence is thus quite consistent with Wilson’s testimony that Brown was trying to get hold of Wilson’s weapon, creating a fear in Wilson that he was going to get shot. It also creates a problem for those who view Brown as having been somehow accosted by Wilson and was just trying to escape.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.134.32 (talk • contribs)

This page is to post questions about how to edit and use Wikipedia. Do you have such a question? Comments about article content will need to be made on that article's talk page and will need to be supported as representative of the reliably published sources.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:52, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Assuming this post is about Shooting of Michael Brown, please use the article's talkpage as mentioned. As the article is under WP:BLP and arbitration restrictions, you should be very careful with assertions and possible WP:OR, and provide reliable sources for your information. See the information on top of the article's talkpage, before you post further information. GermanJoe (talk) 13:58, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

uploading problems

I am having problems uploading images on Upload wizard because it won't let me upload the picture by not letting me press yes or no. Tomandjerry211 (talk) 14:38, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

@Tomandjerry211: You appear to use a mobile device. I haven't tried that. On my desktop version the text "Yes" and "No" cannot be pressed. There are buttons saying "Upload on Commons" and "Upload locally" to the left of "Yes" and "No". Do you see those buttons? Have you filled out all fields marked with a red asterisk and clicked in another field after filling out the last one? PrimeHunter (talk) 14:53, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Emailing Administrators

Hi,

I need to email an administrator about a sensitive issue. I feel like I need to discuss this with someone in private before doing so on a notice board. How would I go about this? Fordx12 (talk) 16:02, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

@Fordx12: What you probably want is WP:OVERSIGHT. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:41, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

As that page says, email the request for suppression to oversight-en-wp@wikipedia.org. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:50, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

I tried to add the following reference to the Wikipedia page on TREM2. I intended to add it as "further reading" at bottom, but instead it shows up at very top of page. It ought to be removed from that spot! I am sorry. Could someone remove it? I do not know how to do that.

It also did not format correctly for listing under "further reading" and I don't know how to fix that. Thanks you

Piccio LM, Buonsanti C, Schmidt RE, Rinker J, Panina-Bordignon P, Cella M, Colonna M, Cross AH: Identification of a novel soluble TREM-2 protein in the cerebrospinal fluid in association with central nervous system inflammation. Brain 2008; 131: 3081-3091 PMC 2577803

Sincerely, Anne Cross MD — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.107.29.13 (talk • contribs) 16:10, 20 December 2014 UTC

See if I have fixed it for you. One places the <ref> and the </ref> at each end of the reference. Have a look (in edit mode) at what I have done and see if that makes sense to you. If not come back here. Also, I don't know if other editors would agree but I think Triggering receptor expressed on myeloid cells 2 Would read clearer if the first letter where capitalized. I.E ., Triggering Receptor Expressed on Myeloid cells 2 . Oh and please just sign your posts here with --~~~~. Simply clicking on the pencil symbol (third along at the top of the edit entry window, and it does it automatically for you. --Aspro (talk) 16:26, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

By the way, Have you thought of becoming a proper registered Wikipedia editor? Please read: Wikipedia:Why create an account?. After all, some doctors can claim to hold enough medical degrees to get a job as a clinical thermometer but few can claim to be a registered 'Wikipedia Editor'!--Aspro (talk) 17:19, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

No Aspro, one does not always put bibliographic information between <ref> and the </ref>. The <ref> and the </ref> tags are only used if one is citing a certain source to support a certain passage in the Wikipedia article. This is known as an inline citation. But this article uses a "Further reading" section which lists related works, which were not used in writing the article. Since they do not support any particular passage in the article, <ref> and the </ref> are not used. Rather, they are just listed in the "Further reading". That section could be improved by putting it in alphabetical order, by the authors' surnames. Jc3s5h (talk) 16:58, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

It is in Further Reading! It is also between ref for now, so that the OP has a chance to see how to use ref wiki mark-up without getting red warnings popping up everytime. After a reply to say "Got It" it can go. Or do you want the OP to come back here again when they actually need to use the ref markup? Agree that that section could be improved by putting it in alphabetical order, so please don't let me stop you.--Aspro (talk) 17:19, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

ip changes official url

Just a quick question. An ip changed the url of Adele's official website this afternoon. I took a quick look at, but although both claim to be her official website, the new one didn't seem to me to be the genuine one. I reverted it, but it's been restored again. I've reverted for a second time, but just wondered if someone could check it out in case I got it wrong. Thanks, This is Paul (talk) 17:20, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Paul, the new link seems to be to blogspot. Even if it was an official page I don't think it is the official page. You did the right thing. I have informed the ip user and asked them to start discussion on the talk page before proceding. All the best, Taketa (talk) 17:26, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that. This is Paul (talk) 17:33, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Right. The page linked to by the IP had a "download pdf" link, which would actually download a .com file. Maproom (talk) 19:42, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

I didn't spot that, but I'm guessing it's not good. This is Paul (talk) 20:21, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Have just mentioned this at WP:BLACKLIST so hopefully they'll blck it and stop it being readded. This is Paul (talk) 20:55, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Articles in english/spanish ??

Hello from Spain. Articles in Category:African-American women which have spanish version, should appear in es:Categoría:Mujeres afroamericanas. Could someone tell me which articles in the english category have spanish version PLEASE?? Help would be very appreciated. --Dhidalgo (talk) 21:14, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

That category should not contain any articles on people (even though it does right now, por desgracia), they should only be added to subcategories. I'm not entirely sure how the Spanish Wikipedia handles things like this but I would assume they use a similar convention. If this is the case, I would suggest breaking up the category into subcategories before you populate it. Scarce2 (talk) 23:53, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

The Spanish Wikipedia category has only 3 articles. It has no need of subcategories. Either there are only a very few articles on African-American women that have been written in or translated into Spanish, or there are articles that have not been properly categorized. There are 21 times more articles improperly in the English main category than there are articles properly in the Spanish main category. How is a category tagged for category cleanup? Robert McClenon (talk) 00:22, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

The cleanup tag here would be {{Category diffuse}} but there is a problem. Most articles in Category:African-American women are judges. I thought about creating Category:African-American women judges but discovered it had been upmerged per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 April 29#Category:African-American women judges. If that decision is respected then most of the articles cannot be moved to subcategories. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:56, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

I see. It appears that the closer, in closing with Upmerge to all parents, didn't take note of one of the parent categories being deprecated for articles. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:20, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

I think what the poster might be looking for, Is there a bot or tool or widget that would cross-reference cross-wiki to say "these are articles in X category in en.wiki that also have an article in es.wiki"? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:37, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

it seems that the spanish wiki does not categorize by ethnicity as much as en. they have these cats es:Categoría:Afroestadounidenses and es:Categoría:Escritores_afroamericanos and es:Categoría:Cantantes_afroamericanos, but neither es:Jackie_Joyner-Kersee or es:Michelle_Obama have any african american cats nor is es:Ruth_Bader_Ginsburg in a jewish cat. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:53, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Category Issue

As a side effect of an inquiry about categories in the English Wikipedia and the Spanish Wikipedia, we have discovered a side effect of a category discussion close, the population of articles into container category in which articles are deprecated. I have pinged the closing admin for the category discussion, User:Fayenatic london. It appears that the nominator didn't explain why they were proposing upmerge into only two of the three parent categories, but there was a reason for proposing the upmerge only into two parent categories. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:15, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I accept that I made an error in closing, and will rectify this myself. – Fayenatic London 09:03, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

OK

OK, thank you all for the opinion. Just wanted to know which afroamerican women's english articles have the equivalent in spanish. Thanks. --Dhidalgo (talk) 17:52, 21 December 2014 (UTC)