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July 29[edit]

How do I change the title of my article/page?[edit]

my page has been approved and published, but the title has been changed by an editor. It's not exact. How do I change it?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vjkrist (talkcontribs) 03:53, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You can click the move page button on right top, and name a new name.--Vin09 (talk) 06:27, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The article has been moved to Adverse Childhood Experiences Study.--ukexpat (talk) 14:46, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Native lang[edit]

ISO-639-2 codes states there are 3 codes but Template:Infobox_settlement#Parameter_names_and_descriptions in this page it is stated French as an example with two code as fr. Which one to use? For example: Telugu language it is having tel and te.

the 2-letter codes are ISO-632-1, not ISO-639-2, but they usually still work in our templates. Have you found something that doesn't work? SpinningSpark 10:31, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Want to create my company profile in Wikipedia[edit]

Hi,

Our company is based in Solon, ohio United states for which I want to create my business page in Wikipedia. So kindly let me know is there any procedure do I need to follow.

Website : http://www.packagingsuppliesbymail.com

Regards Packaging Supplies By Mail — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.83.225 (talk) 07:27, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia isn't a business directory. If your company meets the inclusion requirements, Wikipedia might host an article on it - that article should not be submitted by you, due to your conflict of interest with Wikipedia. If you believe that your company meets the criteria, you can request an article. Please see these FAQs for more information. Yunshui  09:13, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've been accused of vandalism[edit]

I made an edit to Sasha Grey, which has now been tagged as possible vandalism. I don't really understand what I did wrong. You are not logged in (talk) 09:04, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's okay, that's just an automated tag triggered when you add categories related to sexual orientation (since this is a pretty common form of vandalism). At a glance, it looks as though your addition was reasonable, so I've reviewed it for you. Worst case scenario someone disagrees and reverts your change, but no-one except the bot is going to consider that vandalism, and you won't see any comback from it. Yunshui  09:10, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And yet again on Linda Carter (this is getting annoying). Didn't mention a thing about sexual orientation this time. You are not logged in (talk) 10:11, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not as annoying as your username:) You are a relatively new editor. The bot will leave you alone as you become established and it becomes clear that you are a trustworthy editor, probably at the point when you become WP:autoconfirmed. SpinningSpark 10:39, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lol about the username :) I personally think it's funny! But yeah, that's good to know about being autoconfirmed. Thanks for your help. You are not logged in (talk) 10:44, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That would be Lynda Carter (note the spelling). And this time it was related to you mentioning pornography in a non-pornography related article. As has been said, you're edits are fine so far and the notices should stop appearing when you get autoconfirmed which should happen in another two days. Dismas|(talk) 10:50, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to bother you :/[edit]

I am a current student at this school and I have noticed that it has been named incorrectly. Our schools official name is Campbelltown Performing Arts High School not Campbelltown High School of the Performing Arts. Also in the sidebox Also we have four sports team groups (Fisher=Sky Blue) (Macarthur=Green) (Dumaresq=Red (Warby=Yellow) Campbelltown High School of the Performing Arts — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.181.226.194 (talk) 10:36, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - moved the article to the name used on the school website. Green Giant (talk) 11:49, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested article for a company: status?[edit]

I submitted a requested article for the company Little Sun under the sub-section "Business and Economics/Companies." I can not write the article myself, as it would be a conflict of interest. I disclosed who we are on the user page for our company. I thought I followed all of the listed instructions, including citing reliable, independent sources (such as The Guardian, Wall Street Journal, etc.). I can not find my article request in the list anymore. Does this mean the request has been denied? Or is an independent editor working on the article? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlesunenergy (talkcontribs) 13:28, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The page was cleaned out completely because it was unmanageable. You can readd to the new page, just make sure you provide reliable sources for your company. I see in your original submission you included sources but I did not evaluate them, so this is just a reminder, not saying the sources were not reliable. GB fan 14:30, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How to keep Google out of my userspace[edit]

Google has found some of my userspace drafts - how do I prevent that? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:41, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Userspace drafts should be "noindexed" by default. You can add __NOINDEX__ or {{NOINDEX}} to make sure.--ukexpat (talk) 13:51, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Perhaps the default NOINDEX only works one subpage level down from the main user page? My drafts are all in "User:Username/Sandbox/Draft" pages. I use my Sandbox subpage for an index of my drafts and as a temporary "scratchpad" for constructing tables, complex cites, and so on. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:02, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Userspace is not noindexed by default. Some templates like {{User sandbox}} and {{Userspace draft}} add NOINDEX by default but many userspace drafts don't use such templates. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:09, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I will apply the templates where needed, thanks. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:39, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I stand corrected. Thanks.--ukexpat (talk) 14:45, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why was my bio page deleted when my co-author's was not?[edit]

To whom it may concern,

My name is Ian Holt. I am the co-author of the novel Dracula the Un-Dead which has a page on your site. My co-author Dacre Stoker has his own bio page and when you read the Dracula The Un-Dead page you can link to his bio page.

I am wondering how I too can have a linked bio page? Can you help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ianholtwriter (talkcontribs) 15:28, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Ianholtwriter: You simply don't have a page on Wikipedia about yourself to link from the page, Dracula the Un-dead. However, I recommend that you don't create the page yourself, as it would then be an autobiography. Please see Wikipedia:Autobiography. Thanks Piguy101 (talk) 16:38, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I need your help:[edit]

Some guy named Acroterion has just hijacked my posting and decided to erase it. How can some stranger just decide to erase what I wrote? This was my first posting, I signed up with wikipedia just today. It was an informational posting about a 9/11 Memorial my town built with the approval of the families of 9/11, and he just decides to erase it with out my permission. I need your help, this guy is a busy body menace that needs to be stopped. What can I do?

This is the link: United Airlines Flight 93 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Michael — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emerson2715 (talkcontribs) 16:22, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • The problem was that it appeared to be more of an attempt to advertise than to give factual information. And even if it wasn't an advertisement, the line you added about where the fourth plane was intended to crash isn't correct. The fourth plane was intended for either the White House or the U.S. Capitol, according to the September 11 attacks article. Lugia2453 (talk) 16:39, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Emerson2715: Although what you contributed could be true, it looks like an advertisement in nature, as the section tells readers to visit a website for promotional purposes. In addition, there is a section already on the page dedicated for notable memorials. Thanks Piguy101 (talk) 16:41, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Michael, please calm down. No one needs permission to add information to Wikipedia and no one needs permission to remove information from Wikipedia. The post you added is not yours, it belongs to everyone. Wikipedia is a collaborative effort and we all need to work together to make it better. There are a couple of pages you should look at. First, Wikipedia:Assume good faith. This means that assume that the other person was doing something that was in the best interests of the encyclopedia. Next, Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, the cycle helps reduce problems. An editor is bold and add content, you. Another editor, Acroterion, reverts the bold edit. You calmly discuss the edit and why you feel it belongs. GB fan 16:48, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You will come to this in the "cycle" link just given, but "discuss" means discuss the edit revert on the article's Talk page. You can start the discussion there yourself, saying why you made your edit and asking why it was reverted. --P123ct1 (talk) 13:30, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Michael. you need to calm down and stop using intemperate language. Please also read comments from editors above. I have also made a contribution to your Talk page. Regards, David J Johnson (talk) 17:59, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You may not have realised it, but this memorial is already mentioned in the Union City, California article, in the section "Cultural landmarks". I added a news source.--Auric talk 13:15, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing errors on Draft:TearScience[edit]

Reference help requested. Error message I received: On the Draft:TearScience page, your edit caused a missing references list (help | help with group references). (Fix | Ask for help) Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can report it to my operator. How do I fix this? Thanks, Kamichailo (talk) 18:23, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Kamichailo and welcome to the Weird World of Wikipedia. All thats happened is that the edit you made resulted in the removal of the {{reflist}} template, which is a popular way of presenting references and citations. The "thing" that left the message on your talkpage was a "bot", which is a specialised account used for tasks that we Humans find tedious. I would highly recommend using it because it saves you the bother of having to match inline numbers with citation numbers in the reference section. So, I've had a look through and modified your references so that the text is all in the prose of the article. If you look at the draft now you will see all the references neatly presented at the bottom, and if you click on any of the numbers in the prose, you will be taken automatically to the relevant citation. I've used citation templates ({{cite journal}}) and I would recommend reading through the template page to get an idea of what it is and how it works. I hope that helps but if not, please feel free to ask here again. Green Giant (talk) 19:16, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Overcharge[edit]

Overcharge on new subscription 6/27/14. I was charged twice for special on renewal. Should have been only $10.00. --76.186.23.92 (talk) 19:27, 29 July 2014 (UTC) 76.186.23.92 (talk) 19:29, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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HOK Sport, Populous[edit]

Many sports stadiums in the US were designed by an architectural practice named "HOK Sports", part of a larger company. In 2009, this practice became an independent business, with the name "Populous".

Early this month, User:Magnolia677 reported on this Help Desk that User:Ahellweg had been editing articles on stadiums, removing mentions of the name "HOK Sports" and replacing them by "Populous", even though "Populous" did not exist when the stadiums were designed. I helped Magnolia677 by reverting many of Ahellweg's changes.

Now User:63.76.24.4 is repeating these edits that credit Populous with the design of stadiums that were completed years before it existed. I have left a message on 63.76.24.4's talk page; on reflection, I should have done the same for Ahellweg, but he had become inactive before I was aware of what he had been doing. But I certainly don't have the patience to revert them manually again. Is there a tool that could be used for this? Maproom (talk) 19:54, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Maproom: I'm not sure if this helps, but don't sysops have the ability to "nuke contribs" of a user? You could try asking one. Piguy101 (talk) 20:07, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Special:Nuke is for mass deleting pages created by a user or IP (but using rollback with the Open Multilinks Firefox Add-On effectively provides that kind of nuke if the edits are all the latest).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:45, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What does reliable sourcing include?[edit]

If a cited source uses a specific system of measure when referring to a subject area at a particular time era, is it acceptable to use that source to assert the general case that that system of units was the norm during that era? I ask because I have reservations about the verifiability of the section headed "Units of measure used in navigation" in the "Metrication of British transport" article. There are many sources cited there, but none, to my mind, directly support the assertions they are being cited for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.Fred (talkcontribs) 21:17, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No. If I find a source giving the height of the Great Pyramid of Giza in metres, it will not convince me that fourth-dynasty engineers used metres. Maproom (talk) 22:26, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect that I have pedantically answered the question you asked, rather than the one you meant to ask. Maproom (talk) 22:37, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Maproom is right, but I would hesitate to actually remove anything. If the source is from that time era then it verifies that at least one source was using those units. More sources might verify that multiple sources were using those units with a growing confidence that the statement is actually true. Nevertheless, it is still WP:SYNTH to cite those as sources. A secondary source directly making the statement is required. I would suggest marking with an appropriate template such as {{better source}}, {{failed verification}}, {{OR}}, or {{synthesis-inline}} as seems most appropriate. SpinningSpark 00:13, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks all, I've tried the "failed verification" thing... Another question if I may. Is there a similar device to apply where an assertion doesn't even have a cited source? 2.Fred (talk) 20:02, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That would be {{Citation needed}}, or its redirect {{cn}}.--ukexpat (talk) 20:17, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]