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Land measurement[edit]

My question is about land measurement, if an acer of land — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.108.179.16 (talk) 03:09, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your question is unclear but maybe you mean acre. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:56, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You might be able to get an answer, if you state the question clearly and concisely, at the Science Reference Desk or the Miscellaneous Reference Desk. Please be clear and concise. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:13, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Help:CS1 errors#invisible char[edit]

The following wikitext (from WWVB), if you care:

   {{cite conference
     |first=Matthew |last1= Deutch
     |first2= Wayne |last2= Hanson
     |first3= Glenn |last3= Nelson
     |first4= Charles |last4= Snider
     |first5= Douglas |last5= Sutton
     |first6= William |last6= Yates
     |first7= Peder |last7= Hansen
     |first8= Bill |last8= Hopkins
     |publisher= National Institute of Standards and Technology
     |url= http://tf.nist.gov/timefreq/general/pdf/1406.pdf
     |title= WWVB Improvements: New Power from an Old Timer
     |date= December 1999
     |conference= 31st Annual {{abbr|PTTI|Precise Time and Time Interval}} Meeting
     |location = Dana Point, California
     |doi= }}

Produces the following output:
Deutch, Matthew; Hanson, Wayne; Nelson, Glenn; Snider, Charles; Sutton, Douglas; Yates, William; Hansen, Peder; Hopkins, Bill (December 1999). WWVB Improvements: New Power from an Old Timer (PDF). 31st Annual PTTI Meeting. Dana Point, California: National Institute of Standards and Technology.

This is exactly as desired except for the "C0 control character in |conference= at position 29" which Module:Citation/CS1 is spitting out.

Now, I have verified that the wikitext 31st Annual {{abbr|PTTI|Precise Time and Time Interval}} Meeting expands to precisely the following 76 characters of HTML:

   0000: 3331 7374 2041 6e6e 7561 6c20 3c61 6262  31st Annual <abb
   0010: 7220 7469 746c 653d 2250 7265 6369 7365  r title="Precise
   0020: 2054 696d 6520 616e 6420 5469 6d65 2049   Time and Time I
   0030: 6e74 6572 7661 6c22 3e50 5454 493c 2f61  nterval">PTTI</a
   0040: 6262 723e 204d 6565 7469 6e67            bbr> Meeting

Depending on whether positions are 0- or 1-based, position 29 is the "i" or "c" in "Precise". Neither of those are C0 control characters (0x00–0x1f), and in fact no character of the entire expansion is. The "conference=" parameter value is followed by a newline, which is a C0 character, but whitespace is stripped from named parameter values.

I like to use <abbr> in this case because I want to copy the abbreviated form used by the source, but make the expansion available.

One solution is to use raw HTML. Using <abbr title="Precise Time and Time Interval">PTTI</abbr> avoids the error:
Deutch, Matthew; Hanson, Wayne; Nelson, Glenn; Snider, Charles; Sutton, Douglas; Yates, William; Hansen, Peder; Hopkins, Bill (December 1999). WWVB Improvements: New Power from an Old Timer (PDF). 31st Annual PTTI Meeting. Dana Point, California: National Institute of Standards and Technology.

But I do wonder why the {{abbr}} template doesn't work in this case. Any suggestions? 71.41.210.146 (talk) 11:52, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The template experts are discussing this at Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 10#Null character error message appearing in citations. Be patient, and I think they will work something out soon. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:42, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Right at the top of the {{abbr}} documentation there is this:

It is not so much of a problem in this particular case because the content of |conference= is not made part of the citation's metadata.

The error message arises because {{abbr}} has this:

title="{{#tag:nowiki|{{{2|}}}}}

The #tag:nowiki is more-or-less the same as <nowiki>{{{2|}}}</nowiki>. These tags are replaced by strip markers before Module:Citation/CS1 sees the parameter value. Strip markers begin with the delete character (U+007F) which is a C0 control hence the error. Strip markers are replaced with the original content after the module returns.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 12:46, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Trappist the monk:: Thank you very much! I'm still trying to figure out how I read the source of Template:abbr but managed to miss that notice in the documentation. :-) But the discussion you pointed me to is much more informative. 71.41.210.146 (talk) 19:41, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

IPA Pronunciation[edit]

I was reading a WP article about Maus, the graphic novel. I was curious about how to pronounce it, if it was pronounced "Mozz" or "Moss." I Googled it and found out that the German word Maus is pronounced the same as the English word mouse, I thought it would be nice for other WP users if after the title there was the name spelled out phonetically, and you click on the parts of it and it says "s as in sandal"etc. I've seen this in other articles and I wanted to add this to the article. But I don't know how. Perhaps somebody could tell me how to do that. Thanks. NapoleonX (talk) 20:57, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To put the IPA symbols into an article, you can start at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Pronunciation#Entering IPA characters. I found that by typing "Wikipedia:IPA" into the search box which is at the top of every page. This is a good trick to know. Just type "Wikipedia:" and a keyword relating to what you're trying to find.

As for how it is actually pronounced... I don't know. But asking other editors who have actually edited the article might be best since they would probably be familiar with the subject. Dismas|^(talk) 21:02, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Most ordinary words have Wiktionary entries with IPA pronunciations, and those can be copied. In the case of the German word Maus: wikt:de:Maus (and for comparison wikt:en:mouse, which show the very similar, if not quite identical, pronunciation). Rwessel (talk) 21:21, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm baffled (Barfoed?)[edit]

It looks like User:Birger Petersen may have written the same bio for Kasper Barfoed here and in IMDb. I have no idea which came first. Does that constitute a WP:COPYVIO? Clarityfiend (talk) 23:39, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Clarityfiend: I've tagged the page as possible copyvio. Although IMDb could be mirroring Wikiopedia, as the article was written in 2012- needs someone to work out when the IMDb page was added. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:04, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good enough. Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:28, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]