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June 3[edit]

Excluding sections in search[edit]

Is there a way to search while excluding specific article sections? Example: searching for an editorial word like "adored" or "extremely" would display results from reference titles, which are not to be edited. I'm looking for a way for a search to be conducted without bringing back hits in References sections because the search results become cluttered.fdsTalk 22:23, 6 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi[edit]

Why do people spam with nonsense for lolz? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.115.237.100 (talk) 00:58, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You could start reading at Wikipedia:The motivation of a vandal and the other pages linked from its "See also" section. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:26, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Can you have more than one Sandbox page?[edit]

As the question says – Are registered accounts allowed to have more than one Sandbox page? Or is such a practice frowned upon, and it's better to create a "Draft" page in user account space instead? Thanks in advance. --IJBall (talk) 01:15, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You can have as many pages in your userspace as you can find a legitimate use for. Whether they're named User:IJBall/sandbox or User:IJBall/Sandbox 47 or User:IJBall/Joe Schmoe (musician) doesn't especially matter. —Cryptic 01:20, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Having Much Difficulty With Getting My Article Approved--Help![edit]

My Article was just denied for a third time on the grounds of notability. It has a good amount of references, and there is citing of interviews, blogs, websites. I would appreciate some guidance as to what I can include to change this around.

Thank you!

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Rotland_Press&oldid=665264301 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hannaguido (talkcontribs) 02:13, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Hannaguido: It looks like you might not have read this and this. Links to random websites and blogs are not going to help. You need to find reliably published sources with reputations for fact checking and accuracy that have covered the subject in depth. Places like newspapers and books. news.google.com and books.google.com are pretty good at filtering out many inappropriate sources. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:03, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Using Book Creator to Link Pages of Different Languages[edit]

Hi, I'm trying to create a book that has articles on the same topic, but in different languages. Is this possible? If so, may someone please show me how? If not, may someone please show me how to request this feature? In case it makes a difference, the articles for which I'm trying to create a book are:

1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changbin,_Taitung 2) http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%95%B7%E6%BF%B1%E9%84%89 and 3) http://hak.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsh%C3%B2ng-p%C3%AEn-hi%C3%B4ng

Thank you for your help.

210.240.144.4 (talk) 02:16, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

According to Help:Books/for experts#Multi-wiki Books this isn't possible, but the other tool listed there may be of use. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:23, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

present status of my article.[edit]

cn u plz check this article Draft:Air Charter Services Pvt. Ltd. it was tagged as, to be reviewed. the tag has been removed but this article is still in draft. I want to know whether it has been reviewed or not? and also if it has not been reviewed yet then why the review tag has been removed and if reviewed then why it is still showing as draft — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captgs (talkcontribs) 06:37, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The draft is at Draft:Air Charter Services Pvt. Ltd.. Another editor has now restored the "Review Waiting" tag. As it has no inline references, it will certainly be rejected when it is reviewed. Maproom (talk) 07:35, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Hello, Captgs. The review tag was removed by a not-logged-in user 182.71.109.146 in this edit, probably by mistake. (Was that you, forgetting to log in, perhaps?) I have restored it.
I must tell you, though, that the article has no chance of being accepted at present, because it has no in-line citations at all. It is not enough to include a list of links in a section labelled "references": every single piece of information in the article should be individually cited, in-line, to a reliable source. Further, the citations should not be bare urls, but should be properly formatted to show things like title, date, and source clearly: without these, it is hard to evaluate a source. Please see referencing for beginners.
Other matters which will need attention are links. Links to other Wikipedia articles are encouraged, but they should be formatted as Wikilinks (as you have done for New Delhi), and usually within the body of the article, or else in a "See also" section. Wikipedia may never be used as a reference, because it is not a reliable source. On the other hand, a link to the company's own website should not occur in the text, but either in an "External links" section, or (preferably) in a suitable infobox - see for example {{infobox company}}. You can improve the article while it is waiting for review. --ColinFine (talk) 07:42, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The title of the article is also incorrect, but this can be dealt with if the article is accepted, at the time it is moved to article space. Unless there is a good reason for doing otherwise, I think the policy or guideline is to not include "Ltd." in the name of an article about a company. "Pvt." probably shouldn't be there either.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:07, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Just to warn you, there's also currently 1300 submissions in the queue, so it cannot be guaranteed how quickly it will be reviewed. I would like to see more sources to show why it's notable, and inline citations would be helpful too, see referencing for beginners on how to do them. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:12, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Edit twice reverted and I am unable to discern valid reason, and no responses to my invitation on two Talk pages[edit]

Alan Dershowitz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I submitted an edit to the Alan Dershowitz article.

I referenced a published book, a personal memoir by a Palestinian journalist and poet, and gave the complete inline citation.

I summarized this author's description of his encounter with Alan Dershowitz. I provided quotations from the book, limited in number, and nothing extended.

This entire entry was removed, without explanation, and I reverted it, providing reasons.

It was removed again, by a different person, but the only reason offered was that I should "gain consensus on the Talk page", without any stated objections to address or rebut. I cannot come to a consensus by myself.

I then found on my Talk page comments by an administrator advising me that my entry apparently violated Wikipedia non-free content usage rules, and was therefore a potential copyright infringement issue. That is a completely different matter.

I have now reviewed the 10 rules of non-free content usage and cannot discern how my entry violated any of those rules. I have explained all this in the Talk page for the Dershowitz article, and on the Talk page of the administrator who had written to me, and no responses in either location.

Nothing has been submitted to provide critique, rebuttal of the defense I offered for the edit, further explanation, suggested modifications to make my edit comply with one or another rule it may have violated, etc.

It appears that I am at an impasse, with my edit removed, without specific explanation, and with only vague assertion that there is a copyright issue, while I have reviewed what I understand to be relevant guideline and have been unable to detect the compliance issue so that I could correct it.

I am just getting started on editing, and this is an immediate frustration that has a Catch-22 flavor. Please help me with this. Thanks. Improvethewiki (talk) 07:02, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

The copyright issue seems to be a mistake - but I can understand why your material was removed. You are citing Fouzi El-Asmar, but providing no other sources to indicate that his dispute with Dershowitz has been considered significant. If there is a controversy worth inclusion in the article, it must necessarily have been discussed by uninvolved secondary sources. A dispute involving one person is not a 'controversy'. AndyTheGrump (talk) 07:35, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
First, your frustration is not uncommon, in fact, it's more the rule than the exception at Wikipedia, especially when you haven't yet learned all the rules of the game and what recourses are available to you. That said, I see two responses already in your talk thread, and it's still relatively young. So I don't understand your statement that there has been no response. The article has 195 watchers, as Dershowitz is well-known and sometimes controversial. If only half of them are active, and only ten percent of those are interested in your discussion, you should get a healthy amount of participation within a few days. If both sides have made their respective cases, and you're still not convinced, you can consider pursuing the courses of action described in Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. Of course you can return here for more help; however, content disputes are not debated or resolved here (some will disagree on that point, as seen in the previous reply). ―Mandruss  07:44, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

some weird code[edit]

some nonsense words are comming after clicking save button. suddenly they stopped comming and again started comming. what is this? 49.205.190.77 (talk) 09:05, 3 June 2015 (UTC) now they again stopped comming. why is this happening? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.205.190.77 (talk) 09:39, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Your question is not very clear, but I'm guessing that you are referring to a CAPTCHA, which is a method of making sure that it is a person communicating rather than an automated tool. Wikipedia sometimes uses this if an unregistered user adds external links to an article. (See Special:Captcha for more information). If this is the case, you simply need to enter the text that is shown. I believe that if you create an account (which is free, and has other advantages) then once you have used it a few times you will not be shown another Captcha. --ColinFine (talk) 11:45, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please check my article once again[edit]

I have two questions for you, Requesting your answer on following questions.

1. I have been told to add citations and reference to my article as it may be rejected. I added the citations and reference, Please re-examine that on link to my draft article: Draft:Air Charter Services Pvt. Ltd.

2. I am trying to put the sequence to my article as: Citations > External Links > Reference > Tags. I saved the sequence as you can see the same in 'EDIT' but after saving it, the article shows the sequence as: Citations > External Links > Reference > Tags and Remaining part of > Citations. I tried a lot to correct the sequence but some part of citation on the top skips and flashes on the very bottom right after 'Tags'. Can you please correct it for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captgs (talkcontribs) 12:33, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The referencing is still a mess. Please take a look at WP:REFB for assistance.--ukexpat (talk) 12:56, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Captgs, the citations go in the text itself, immediately after the statement that they are supporting. --ColinFine (talk) 15:38, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Except for List-defined references Help:List-defined references in which case they (mostly) go at the end.--S Philbrick(Talk) 15:54, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This refers to this question. You don't have to ask a new question. Just respond to the other one or wait a few days.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:28, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nexus 5 wikipedia app[edit]

I think the wikipedia app is not working properly: the capitalism, history, business and economics portals are not updating at all. I checked someone's Iphone, it seems to be working ok there.Lbertolotti (talk) 12:40, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Lbertolotti: Hi, the Help Desk is for questions about how to use and edit Wikipedia. To discuss suspected problems with the Wikipedia site or software, please use Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). ―Mandruss  12:44, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Mandruss I've posted here, but the problem persists. Lbertolotti (talk) 18:19, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I added an entry (Antal Kerpely Dormitory) to this page: it doesn't show up, nor do subsequent entries. The code looks ok to me: how have I fouled up??TheLongTone (talk) 14:40, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like it's fixed now? DonIago (talk) 14:50, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) It looks as if you hadn't read Wikipedia:AFDHOWTO. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:53, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@TheLongTone: Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 137#Post not showing up immediately is about an issue today where users sometimes have to bypass their cache to see the edit they just saved. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:41, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Picture not showing up[edit]

[1] Why did the picture disappear? I thought I typed the right code, obeying the instructions "just the filename, without the File: or Image: prefix or enclosing brackets" from Template:Infobox person. 192.12.149.16 (talk) 18:50, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This one had me stumped for a while, but I fixed it with this edit. There was an extra stray "image =" parameter at the bottom :) ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 19:15, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

odd appearance of stray markup[edit]

Please look at Linda Upmeyer & Linda Miller (politician) & Kim Pearson. In the ==Electoral history== sections the following stray mark-up appears in the viewable article: </tr"></tr">. But this mark-up is not visible on the edit page. Does this stuff appear because of a problem with the {{Compact election box no change begin}} template? If so, does the template need fixing? Or what? Thanks. – S. Rich (talk) 19:22, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I seem to have fixed it with this edit to the template. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:32, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed you have! Many thanks. – S. Rich (talk) 03:25, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Adding WikiProjects to an article[edit]

Hello, in doing new page patrolling, I often come across pages which should be added to various WikiProjects. The AfC helper script has a nice HotCat-like interface for doing this when reviewing drafts. I was wondering if such a thing existed separately. Thanks! Happy Squirrel (talk) 19:25, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Since no one has answered, I will suggest WP:VPT.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:29, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not aware of such a function, but it would be useful IMO. WP:VPT is probably the place for a definite answer about it though. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:31, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]