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March 17[edit]

Does Oversight leave indications of diffs that have been made not visible?[edit]

When Admins nix a diff, anybody can still see that something happened in the page log. When a someone does the full "oversight" does that leave the traces of the diffs or do those go away too? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:13, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The oversight is not in the log, but the revision is still there in the history. Attempting to diff one will give, "You cannot view this diff because one or both of the revisions has been suppressed." Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 05:23, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:30, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@TheRedPenOfDoom and Anon126/R: It depends what you mean by "full" oversight. See Wikipedia:Oversight/FAQ#Tools for hiding/removing edits. "a deprecated tool, no longer in general use" removes the trace in the page history. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:36, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I was not aware of the difference between the older oversight and the current suppression system. PrimeHunter, my username is not "Anon126/R"; that is the name of the page that explains notifications. Anon124 (+2) (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 19:12, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Still my articles still get deleted person who made deleted articles[edit]

still I read myfirstarticle but nothing happened great if my articles keep getting deleted im gonna quit wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.163.131 (talk) 07:20, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you dont stop making disruptive inappropriate articles you will be forced off Wikipedia. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 07:47, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have de-shouted your heading because I find it annoying and offensive. As for the incomprehensible grammar, I'll let that stand since I have no idea what you are trying to say. ―Mandruss  07:51, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@122.148.163.131: Please stop adding new sections here. If you want to add to a thread, simply click "edit" next to the section heading, add your comment at the end, and click "Save page". And stop typing in all capital letters, that is considered shouting on the Internet. ―Mandruss  08:03, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

THIS IS A NEW QUESTION in that title (this is a new question) I'm not shouting I'm just trying to get your attention but can you answer my question now maybe for the fifth time I have done everything you told me but my articles still get deleted like Talk Ray its a contact app is it red or blue just check please tell me why it still gets deleted I want my articles to be PERMNAMENT (I'm not shouting) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pabdelma (talkcontribs) 08:23, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Pabdelma: Multiple editors have responded to your questions, here, here, and here. I agree with the other editor that your English language skills are not good enough to write new articles on the English Wikipedia site. See Wikipedia:Competence is required#Some common types, "Language difficulty". There are probably other problems with your article attempts, but the language problem is enough. ―Mandruss  08:54, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of .js page[edit]

Please tell me where or how to request deletion of a .js page on Wikipedia. Thank you so much! --iudexvivorum (talk) 07:33, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

see WP:G7--Moxy (talk) 07:57, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding page on Ms Inese Vaidere[edit]

Good day,

I am writing you concerning the community page about politician Ms Inese Vaidere. For some reason this page (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Inese-Vaidere/133439886696962) appears on Facebook with wikipedia content in English. Ms Vaidere has her official facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Inese-Vaidere/133439886696962?fref=ts#!/inese.vaidere.9) for this reason I am kindly asking you to remove the community/wiki page about her from Facebook.com otherwise it is providing confusing and misleading information about he rofficial page.

Yours sincerely, Assistant to Ms Vaidere — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.173.162.144 (talk) 09:06, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As per the notice on the Facebook community page "This Page is automatically generated based on what Facebook users are interested in and not affiliated with or endorsed by anyone associated with the topic." Wikipedia content is freely licensed and Facebook can use it if they want. You'll have to contact Facebook about this page not Wikipedia. - X201 (talk) 09:18, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The Facebook Help page is at http://www.facebook.com/help/ - I'm afraid we at Wikipedia can do nothing about this matter. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:43, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There is a Wikipedia article Inese Vaidere. As mentioned above, its content can be freely used in Facebook. If anyone has an issue about the content of the Wikipedia article, they can discuss at Talk: Inese Vaidere. If the issue is about Facebook content, then, as noted, it is a Facebook issue and not a Wikipedia issue (unless someone says that something is incorrect in her Wikipedia article). Robert McClenon (talk) 17:18, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How Do You Edit Titles[edit]

Hello Wikipedia, you a awesome and plus my favorite thing to do on the computer. I came here to ask a question how do you edit titles. I have written and article and I want to change it to something else. Thanks. Oh and check out my first article Talk Ray --SweetPoet345 (talk) 09:54, 17 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SweetPoet345 (talkcontribs) 09:53, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The answer to your question is to WP:MOVE it. But I doubt you'll get the chance since it looks like the article is going to be deleted. Maybe you should go through the Articles for Creation process. And ask yourself if the subject you're writing about is notable enough for an article. Dismas|(talk) 10:09, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Same user as 122.148.163.131 and Pabdelma in multiple threads above. Clear WP:CIR and approaching WP:NOTHERE. I have reported them at ANI. ―Mandruss  10:15, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Isidore[edit]

Isidore and Isidore (disambiguation) are so similar in format and content that they can't both be correct usage. How should this be corrected? ―Mandruss  14:19, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Either could be correct, but not both at once. I suggest a merge. Maproom (talk) 14:34, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
After I posted that, I belatedly checked out how other names are handled. For example, there are a William (name) and a William (disambiguation), but the former looks a lot different from Isidore. ―Mandruss  14:36, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe Marcus is a better example of such a separation. It contains everything except given names, which are included as link to Marcus (name). Seems like a good approach. GermanJoe (talk) 14:44, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
How odd that there is no common treatment for given names. I'm inclined to just leave it alone, given that anything I did would be subject to the next guy's whim in the absence of any guideline. ―Mandruss  14:48, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stewart Bowman Johnson[edit]

I wish to add an article about the artist Stewart Bowman Johnson but I do not know how. Can someone help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Auhor71 (talkcontribs) 14:27, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You could read Wikipedia:Your first article to learn how, or add his name to one of the lists at Wikipedia:Requested articles and wait for someone else to create one. Maproom (talk) 14:33, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

featured page[edit]

how do you become featured on the featured content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.172.194.254 (talk) 15:17, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There are different types of featured content linked below, or maybe you want Wikipedia:Today's featured article. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:45, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Featured content:

General Wikipedia Doubts[edit]

1) Wikipedia Profile

I am planning to create two Wikipedia pages for Ansar Gallary Shopping Mall & Safari Group have many branches across Qatar and Dubai they have subsidiary group also. I have friend who is working in top management in both companies. they can provide the correct information of both shopping mall.

the links for full profile not available on Web. So Could you please guide me in which way I can create the page.

2) Wikipedia profile Images

for example for the above shopping site I also want to upload their images. When I had a talk on info-commons@wikimedia.org one of the admin said they can send direct to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org

In such a case , though which account I can upload this images to Wikipedia account. Is it possible to upload in mine after the send direct to permission commons?

3) Wikipedia Profile Photo shoot

Some of the Film Celebrities ask me to put their photo shoot images but I said its against Wikipedia rule. I wanna know, Is it possible if they send photoshoot images to make wikipedia profile.

Appreciate answer for above 3 Questions — Preceding unsigned comment added by Niyazsky (talkcontribs) 16:15, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Niyazsky. I am afraid that you have some misunderstandings about Wikipedia. It is not a directory, advertising of any sort is not permitted on it, it does not contain profiles, and people connected with a subject are strongly discouraged from having any involvement in an article about that subject. Please see what Wikipedia is not and Your first article.
Having said that, it is possible that there could be articles about those two businesses. Wikipedia articles should be written almost entirely on the basis of what people with no connection to them have written about them and published in reliable places like major newspapers. Information from the top management of the company is not permitted in the article, unless it has also been published.
What you need to do is to find places where people who have no connection with the mall and the group have written articles about them, and published them in major newspapers or magazines (or books from reputable publishers). Blogs and social media will not do, nor will anything published by the companies themselves (including press releases). If you can find suvh writing, then there can be articles on them; but because you have a friend in the top management it may be difficult for you to write in a suitably neutral way about them: I suggest you use the article wizard. You need to make sure, as I said, that everything in the article (apart possible from some uncontroversial factual data such as dates and numbers) comes directly from independent published sources, and make sure that there is no advertising language in it (see Peacock words).
As for pictures: with few exceptions, all pictures in Wikipedia must be released under a free licence. The holder of the copyright (usually the photographer, unless they have assigned it) must explicitly release the picture under a licence such as CC-BY-SA - see donating copyright materials for how to do this. You have had an account long enough, and have made enough edits, that you are allowed to upload pictures: preferably, load them to Wikimedia commons.
I don't understand quite what you are asking about the Photo shoot: the celebrities probably don't own the copyright to those pictures (though they might do). The copyright owner must release the picture as I said above. --ColinFine (talk) 17:05, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How do I do this Category stuff?[edit]

There is a Category:Art Deco architecture. It has several ‘’’Subcategories’’’. I would like to add Category:Art Deco architecture in New York to the list of Subcategories, but do not know how to do this. Any suggestions? Ideas? Theories?
Carptrash (talk) 18:19, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Art Deco architecture in New York is already a subcategory of Category:Art Deco architecture in the United States by state which is a sub cat of Category:Art Deco architecture in the United States which is a subcat of Category:Art Deco architecture by country which is a subcat of Category:Art Deco architecture.--ukexpat (talk) 18:54, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
thanks ex. Carptrash (talk) 21:05, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Font[edit]

HOW DI CHANGE THE FONT TO NEW TIMES ROMAN — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:2C18:9150:F0AF:94E2:1DF:7172 (talk) 18:51, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Where do you want to change it? Do you want article text to show up in Times New Roman? Anon124 (+2) (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 19:08, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
In general, Wikipedia's manual of style does not allow the changing of fonts in articles, see WP:FONTFAMILY. Do you mean you want to change it to Times New Roman on your computer? PhantomTech (talk) 19:24, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You can do it by creating an account. Then you can click on "preferences" at the top of the page. I did that years ago but I've forgotten the details of what to do.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:25, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

help with adding links.[edit]

Hi. Could someone please tell me how I link, (if that's the right term to use) to other articles when the wording is not in full. The example is this I found "bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees." I would like to add a link to the bachelors degree & masters degree articles but using only bachelors & masters? hope that makes sense. thanks.Barniecadd (talk) 22:09, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Barniecadd: You already have a piped link on doctoral so I'm not sure whether you only want this: [[Bachelor's degree|bachelor's]], [[Master's degree|master's]], and [[Doctorate|doctoral]] degrees. renders as: bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:15, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks for responding Primehunter. I did not explain that too well. What I was enquiring about was best methods to link to another article when only part of the other article name - in my example here, the word "bachelors" linking to the "bachelors degree" article page.Barniecadd (talk) 04:32, 18 March 2015 (UTC) Hi again. Now I see what you are saying. Thanks again for the help.Barniecadd (talk) 04:34, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]