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March 5

Martineau family

I have added 2 new refs. but am worried about ref number 5. Please check - I found it hard to get the name of the publisher. Thanks 101.182.136.195 (talk) 04:44, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Seems OK to me. Eagleash (talk) 04:53, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks BUT I think the actual name of the publication may not be correct. Are you too busy to check? Also, as it is a book, should there be a "digital' number as well? Thanks again101.182.136.195 (talk) 04:59, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

The title looks the same as in the source and the ref already includes the ISBN. Eagleash (talk) 05:44, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Martineau family

Help fix please. Sorry. Ref number 42 is all wrong. I am tired now and have tried hard. Please fix up 101.182.136.195 (talk) 05:25, 5 March 2016 (UTC).

 Done Eagleash (talk) 05:45, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

create a book in formats other than txt or pdf

I was trying to create a book from a wikipedia page. However in the drop down menu only pdf or txt formats are available. Is it not possible - any more - to create a book in odf or other formats? Letterx (talk) 14:50, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

You might find more information at Help:Books, Help talk:Books, or Help:Books/FAQ. There is a notice at the FAQ that that the Book Creator software is out-of-date, so that may be part of the problem? -- Natalya 16:32, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Create new article and admin user blocked it.

I created new article about a Musician in Persian language. less than 24 hours I got Notability sticker on my article. However I've had several article source/References and I've mentioned about it. Finally I found an user Wikipedia admin blocked my article and I couldn't publish it. I've sent message to him but he mentioned you didn't provide references into your article within 24 hours. However all references about my article are official websites in Iran. Actually I provided 15 official website references. So Still That Musician name is blocked and I can't create page and that user admin also didn't reply to my message (It's already 48 hours) but no reply. please guide me how to make complaint about him or how to create that page? I highly appreciate your help and support. regards Shahmirani (talk) 16:50, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

@Shahmirani: You mention that you provided references to the official website but that is not all of what is meant by providing references. In order to establish notability, references to reliable secondary sources which are independent of the subject of the article must be used. Dismas|^(talk) 16:55, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

@Shahmirani: Can you please provide a link to the deleted article? You didn't edit it under your current username, so there is no way of finding out more about it. RockMagnetist(talk) 16:57, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

As you mentioned about reliable secondary sources, The article subject is about a musician man who is already dead, and all official website references mentioned about his name and everything that I've mentioned into the page. You can check it out here. Here is the page

And here is the warning message when I'm going to create an article. Please check it out

As you can see the user Mahdy Saffar blocked it and I can't create the page. Shahmirani (talk) 17:08, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Shahmirani. I'm afraid that the Farsi and the English Wikipedias are completely separate projects, and have no authority over each other: you need to take that up in the Farsi Wikipedia. (In the English Wikipeida, an article must be based almost completely on what people with no connection to the subject have published, so an article based only on their own website would not be acceptable. The rules may be different on Farsi Wikipedia, but it sounds as if they are not). --ColinFine (talk) 17:17, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello, ColinFine. Thanks for your reply, Just I need to mention that I've no connection with that Musician guy and also all provided links are official websites, those aren't my own website!!

As I know Wikipedia policy should be same in all languages, it doesn't mean it can be changed in different languages! Regard Shahmirani (talk) 17:30, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia policy is not the same in all languages, Shahmirani. Each language Wikipedia is a separate project, and policies are nearly all determined by consensus; so since you have a different group of people in each Wikipedia, you can get different rules and policies. (By "their own website" I meant the website of the subject of the article, not of the editor who created the article. I assumed that by "official websites" you meant the musician's official website, but maybe that is not what you meant: I don't know what else an "official website" might mean. But in any case, you need to discuss this in the fa.wikipedia, according to that Wikipedia's rules). --ColinFine (talk) 17:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Is there someone at this English Help Desk who knows Farsi and can advise the original poster as to whether there is a Farsi Help Desk, or how to discuss an article creation issue in the Farsi Wikipedia? Robert McClenon (talk) 17:50, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

On the left side of this page is a link to the equivilent page in different langages, including one at fa.wikipedia.org. RudolfRed (talk) 22:12, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Just I wanna mention some of official website that what I meant in English Language, like: Iranian music, CHN cultural heritage news agency, Hamshahri online NewsPaper, comprehensive database of book information, Radio Iran, Arya News Agency and more. These are example of official websites. Anyhow I've to follow my problem in Farsi Wikipedia! Thanks and regards Shahmirani (talk) 17:58, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

How link a word to wiktionary page without indicating that the link is going to wiktionary?

One way to link a word on a Wikipedia page is via wikt:word, for example. Another way is via the URL, for example, word. Is there currently a way of using the 1st method that does not show the "wikt:" part? Thank you. --Thomasmeeks (talk) 18:39, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, just use [[wikt:word|word]] which displays as word. Dbfirs 18:48, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

And the pipe trick means you only have to write [[wikt:word|]] when you save. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:58, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, that's even simpler. Dbfirs 20:14, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

I am weak from both your trickeries. Thank you so. --Thomasmeeks (talk) 20:59, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

EDITS

Rubus deliciosus

TEMPS ARE BACKWARDS... CELCIUS FAHRENHEIT,... NO SOURCE NEEDED. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.211.121.197 (talk) 20:16, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Discuss on article talk page. The temperatures do not appear to be backwards, but inconsistent. A source is needed. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:20, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

I made a correction based on 71.211.121.197's claim that the scales are reversed, but I agree that we need to check whether it should be 5a or 5b. Dbfirs 20:42, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

change to wikipedia

you've recently changed Wikipedia. It used to be that when I read an article by clicking the address, the color of the address changed and stayed that way forever.

Now each day you reset some of these entries so I cannot determine which ones I have read, and therefore which ones are new.

This a real pain - I'll probably stop going to the site since this is so annoying

David Winnett — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.63.170.131 (talk) 20:50, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

It sounds like the issue is at your end: sounds a lot like you have set your browser to automatically empty its browsing history every time you close it. We redirect some articles every now and then, but this is hardly noticeable even to a regular reader. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:55, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

David Winnett: Yes, this is a function of your browser. And whether or not it keeps your "browsing history" or -- for whatever reason -- clears out your browsing history. This has nothing to do with Wikipedia. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 02:12, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

A Administrator to Protect My Pages & To Keep My Changes On Wikipedia Please without Anyone Else Changing it Without My Permission

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Hi The Administrator My Name is James Duggins from Pop & Chart Hits Live In Suffolk & a Member of Wikipedia. I am Excellent researcher looking into My Favorite Topic Bands & Artists. I am always updating to date with New Music that are being released from the Albums that has just come out. I have added about roughly 50 changes to Wikipedia That I have Found New Music that is on Youtube & Vevo. On Wikipedia Editing I have Fix Things & I don't Ruin Adding New Stuff, I get stuck Sometimes when I add something like singles for a Title example and doesn't gone as planned When that is different and I add the new releases onto the Singles in the Years Shown. My Question is I have researched A band Called the Vamps for a long Time Now and a lot of People is Keep Editing My New Added Stuff which is True, that I have found on the Internet. What I found is That There are 3 Promotional Singles & That's It Which are 1. Dangerous from the Meet the Vamps Album is a Promotional Single & 2. What I found is that The Music Video for Cheater is a Promotional Single Not a Single & also 3. Stolen Moments is a Promotional Single from the Album. All Three of these Should have there own Table with the Year With It. A Promotional is/ Means it is a free download from the Album for the Band or Artist is giving away But It is Not A Single & a Difference also to SOUNDTRACKS as well Okay. If the User'Users DOESN'T know What the Difference Between the Three ABOVE Then Please STOP EDITING MY TABLE & CHANGES. Then have a look at the Internet, I did and There is a Difference Okay. And Also there should be a Different Table & Is to Be Called Soundtracks, or Soundtrack Singles from the Film or the Album Shown. There Are 2 Soundtracks for these Films from the Vamps, Which are Hurricane which is from Alexander the Great, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day Film & Kung Fu Fighting from the Kung Fu Panda 3 Film Which are Film Albums & Soundtracks from the Film & Can be a Singles as well. SOUNDTRACKS Are Not Promotional Singles, They Are SOUNDTRACKS Okay, So Please put them into a different Table with the Word Soundtracks or Soundtrack Singles with the Year & Album or Film Album Shown above Well. I am Trying My Hardest to Seperate the The Vamps Promotional Singles from the Soundtracks. If You Don't Believe Me Then Have a look at the Other Soundtracks from the Albums or Films Shown. For Example In 2006 Brad Paisley who is a Country Singer who sang 2 Soundtracks Called "Behind the Clouds" & "Find Yourself" from the Film Cars (soundtrack). These here are Not In the Promotional Singles Table Because They ARE NOT FREE DOWNLOADS & They are From A FILM & Is a Singer As Well. 2011 Brad Paisley Sang "Nobody's Fool" "Collisions of Worlds" (with Robbie Williams) from the Cars 2 (soundtrack) Which are Singles & from the Films Listed. In 1997 Seal Sang "Fly Like an Eagle" From The Film Space Jam Soundtrack which are Singles & from the Films Itself. In 2001 Seal Sang "This Could Be Heaven" From the Film The Family Man Soundtrack, which is a Single & from the Films Itself. In 2006 Seal Sang "A Father's Way" from the Film The Pursuit of Happyness Soundtrack which is a Single & from the Films Itself. In 1996 R Kelly Sang "I Believe I Can Fly" From the Film Space Jam and the Album Called R. Which is a Single from the Film & The Album. In 1997 "Gotham City" From the Film Batman & Robin and the Album Called R. Which is a Single from the Film & The Album. And The Very Last Example is Phil Collins Sang in 1985 "Separate Lives" (with Marilyn Martin) From the Film White Nights Soundtrack Which is a Single from the Film. In 19988 Phil Collins Sang "A Groovy Kind of Love" & "Two Hearts" from the Film Buster Soundtrack Which Are Singles from the Film Itself. In 1999 Phil Collins Sang "You'll Be in My Heart" From the Film Tarzan Soundtrack Which is a Single from the Film Itself. In 2000 Phil Sang "Strangers Like Me", "Son of Man" & "Two Worlds" from the Film Tarzan Which are Single from the Film Tarzan like You'll Be In My Heart. In 2003 Phil Collins Sang "Look Through My Eyes" from the Film Brother Bear Soundtrack Which is a Single from the Film Itself. In 2004 Phil Collins Sang "No Way Out" from the Film Brother Bear Soundtrack Which is a Single from the Film Itself. So You See from these Examples, NONE OF THEM ARE IN THE PROMOTIONAL SINGLES Because They Are Not a FREE DOWNLOAD, They are Singles Download from the Charts/Top 40 and Promotional Are Not. There are Other Examples Like 2014 Brad Paisley sang "All In"& "Runway Romance" from the Film Planes: Fire and Rescue (soundtrack) which is a Single & from the Films Itself. Administrator Please block Other Users from editing My Changes on Bands & Artists because This is my Favorite Topic and Protecting the Tables that I have made on Wikipedia of the Singles & Soundtracks added by Me. I say this because All the Other Users Doesn't know all the Brand New Singles Coming out every time it comes, Other Users STILL cannot Tell the Difference Between SINGLES, SOUNDTRACKS & PROMOTIONAL SINGLES But I do Okay. Please Help Me you are my Very LAST Chance because other People/Users on Wikipedia have been Liars/Lying on Wikipedia. I have separated the Promotional Singles & the Soundtracks in 2 different Tables because You cannot buy a Soundtrack in a Promotional Singles because It is NOT Free at all, The only way to buy one is to Buy it from the film CD/Film Album Itself Like For Example Kung Fu fighting by the Vamps in Amazon.co.uk, You have to BUY The Kung Fu Panda 3 Album itself, BUT IT IS NOT FREE AND Isn't SHOULD BE IN A PROMOTIONAL SINGLE. When All of my Edits are Saved & NOT edited then I will Be Happy and I will not bother you Ever again and That Will Be It. Administrator If I See Another User Like Ss112 Editing My CHANGES Again When I Fix Something Like This Then I will be So Angry at that person and Swear everytime that person STOPS ALL of My Edits Please, THIS IS NOT THREATENING, IT IS A MAJOR WARNING & IF He/She is Ignoring my Message then Let Me talk to Ss112 and see if then the both of us can come to a Conclusion on Wikipedia. One person called Amortias that that Youtube is Not a Reliable Resource, Then tell him or her to give me a example of a reliable source because I am lost and I don't get what is saying. Thank You Bye Kind Regards From

--James Duggins (talk) 21:47, 5 March 2016 (UTC)James Duggins --James Duggins (talk) 21:47, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

@James Duggins: You do realize you are on Wikipedia right? The encyclpedia that anyone can edit. There is no way that your edits will be protected. One, there is no way to do that. Two, that is not how it works. YouTube is not reliable since it can be edited by anyone. See WP:IRS for a guide on how to identify reliable sources. Once you hit that save button they are no longer your changes, they are the encyclopedia's and they can be changed at anytime. You do not own anything here. Please read the links that have been given to you. --Majora (talk) 21:52, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Also, please read too long, didn't read about overly lengthy posts, such as yours (now collapsed) is. Also, please read the civility policy and the policy against personal attacks. It doesn't help, in Wikipedia, to say that other editors are liars or are lying. Read the policy to assume good faith. Even if you disagree with other editors, and even if you are right and can verify that you are right, they are probably mistaken rather than lying. (Also consider that you may be mistaken.) Robert McClenon (talk) 22:13, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

I am involved in an edit-a-thon (my term, not theirs) today

and in order to prepare I created several draft pages in my user space, such as User:Carptrash/Rebecca Salsbury James. I have now published a few of these but am not at all clear as to how I get rid of the drafts. I'll bet you know how, and can tell me. Thanks, Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 21:54, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Tag them for speedy deletion, user-requested (U1). LadyofShalott 22:05, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello, If you put {{Db-G7}} at the top of the page, it will be deleted by an admin. (You can also just blank the page which has the same effect...or do both). See also WP:CSD Eagleash (talk) 22:08, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

@Eagleash: G7 would work, but user pages are not supposed to be deleted when they are blanked. —teb728 t c 09:26, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

That's probably just for drafts...now you come mention it. Eagleash (talk) 09:41, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

The first time I asked this myself I was told G7 but the Lady's means could be considered more applicable. Place {{Db-U1}} at the top of the page. Eagleash (talk) 22:25, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Then User Request it is. Thanks all (both), Carptrash (talk) 01:47, 6 March 2016 (UTC)