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August 13

Adding a Youtube video as a reference.

Having trouble adding a Youtube video as a reference. According to the guide found on Wikipedia of how to add one, it still won't work? I believe it is the Reference name that is the problem, and what the error says is causing it not to be added. Could it be something else not allowing it to be used as a reference?Hallow88 (talk) 00:21, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

This doesn't address your technical concerns, but there is consensus that YouTube is not a generally reliable source, unless it's a reliable source which has a channel on YouTube (for instance, the CNN YouTube channel.) Catrìona (talk) 00:26, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

And you'll find out how to format a reference at Help:Referencing for beginners. Your attempt was malformatted and misplaced. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:36, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

The video is of a official song and has been given permission to use by the owner, along with the same song as an earlier version with a different background singer.Hallow88 (talk) 00:41, 13 August 2018 (UTC) I have read the whole HELP page, but I keep getting this error only: Cite error: A list-defined reference named "Youtube|qgz9rXS8kTQ" is not used in the content (see the help page). What am I adding wrong here, how is the name correctly added?Hallow88 (talk) 01:12, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

You could try making a new section called "External links" and adding it there, minus the <ref> tags. Catrìona (talk) 01:38, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Probably a better idea thanks for the help.Hallow88 (talk) 01:48, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

How to reedit item after published?

Hello, I am new here, I want to know how to reedit an item when the item has been published? Or the item could not be edited again after published? Thank you!--Belle Tong (talk) 01:42, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Belle Tong. A large majority of pages here can be edited simply by clicking the "edit" button at the top of the page, or the "edit" button for the specific section you wish to edit. A small percentage of pages are protected, usually because of persistent vandalism. If you mention a specific page, we can give you advice if that page is protected. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:51, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Is there any other language could be used when edting an item?

Hello, I am new here. I want to know besides English, is there any other language could be used when editing an item? Thanks!--Belle Tong (talk) 01:57, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Belle Tong. This is the English language Wikipedia and all substantive content here should be written in English. It is acceptable to use references in other languages. If you want to write encyclopedia content in other languages, we have versions of Wikipedia in almost every significant language. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:05, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Belle Tong. You probably need to read WP:Your first article and WP:Referencing for beginners before you create any more articles. English uses the definite article ("the") in lots of places where you omit the word. We can help with proof-reading and correcting your English to make it encyclopaedic, but Wikipedia is based on references, and you do need to include them. You might like to create future articles in WP:Draft space where the English can be polished before going live. Dbfirs 06:11, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

... later ... I see that your article has been moved to draft space where you can work on the English, the references, and formatting it as an encyclopaedia article. Dbfirs 19:27, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Link: Draft:Pipe spool fabrication. --CiaPan (talk) 13:49, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

@Belle Tong: If you're interested in Wikipedias in other languages, you may find interesting the Wikipedia article on Wikipedia itself: Wikipedia, esp. the section Wikipedia#Language editions.
See also the page List of Wikipedias linked there, which lists English Wikipedia's articles about Wikipedias in other languages and provides links to those Wikipedias, too. --CiaPan (talk) 13:58, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

After "support" consensus on the above's Talk page, I have added on the above page in a small section - "The Kate Middleton Effect" - that still has it's own page - which should now be removed. I hope I have done the correct editing here - over a month has passed since the "warning" was placed on the top of the page of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge. Please see Kate Middleton effect and please remove page as discussed. Thanks 203.132.68.1 (talk) 04:57, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

It has already been merged and redirected to the main article. Keivan.f^Talk 14:34, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Using some old photos taken in Japan via 1979

I found some photos that were taken in 1979. These involve a bank robbery incident and I'm aware that Wikipedia's public domain law is suppose to be for photos in 1970. I'm trying to see if it's fine to use them in portraying a historical event. Ominae (talk) 05:37, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

I assume by your statement that the photos are still not in public domain. So the short answer here is, no. Lourdes 16:17, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

• Are you in possession of the physical photos? If yes, are you the original photographer or the legal heir of the photographer? If so, you are the presumptive owner of the copyright, and you can upload it and grant a CC-BY-SA license. If you are not the owner of the copyright, then you cannot upload the photographs. -Arch dude (talk) 16:27, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Got it. The photos are in the Mainichi in the late 70s. Ominae (talk) 01:25, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

2018-19 United states tv Schedule

Can you fix the NBA Saturday Primetime Reference I Made can you fix it please. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 19:18, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Why Didn't you answer me five minutes ago. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 19:26, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Can someone ban this editor from Help Desk, seriously. They seem to think it's their own personal help desk and have a number of times now asked for stuff that is WP:TOOSOON as well as comments like the second edit where they don't remain WP:CIVIL even after being told before that this is a page of volunteers and there is no rush to publish stuff in articles. They also have been told previously to link to articles they are requesting help on but continue to not provide the link, they are experienced enough to know better. NZFC^(talk)

Would love to, but the user has a frequently changing IP address. So the ban would be impossible to enforce properly. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:50, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

What's the deal with the user right headers?

E.g., the ones for crats, NPRs, and pagemovers. How should I treat these — as policies, guidelines, essays, or infopages? — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 20:28, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

pythoncoder, I have read through you question multiple times and am no closer to understanding what you are asking. Can you link to what you are talking about? ~ GB fan 21:44, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

GB fan — Sorry for the confusion. I meant, are they policies, guidelines, or something else? — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 21:57, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

pythoncoder I'm also still not clear on what you're talking about. Do you mean topicons or userboxes, like {{new page reviewer topicon}} and {{user wikipedia/New page reviewer}} like the ones you have one your userpage? User-rights are neither policies nor guidelines. Vexations (talk) 22:07, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

The thing at the top of e.g. WP:CRAT that takes the place of a "this page is policy" message. — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 22:16, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

pythoncoder, are you talking about the box that says; This page contains information about bureaucrats, relevant policy and guideline considerations concerning the use of the bureaucrat privilege, and details concerning the use of the bureaucrat tools on the English Wikipedia.? If you are, you should treat it as exactly what it says in that box. ~ GB fan 01:18, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

One can see how it is confusing that Wikipedia:Administrators use {{Policy}} and hence is clearly labelled as policy, but other information pages related to user rights, such as Wikipedia:CheckUser {{procedural policy}} or pages such as Wikipedia:Bureaucrats use their own header. --Vexations (talk) 01:32, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 01:41, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

How to edit references?

Sorry if this has been answered before, but I could not find it in the archives.

I found an entry listing several references that meet the Wikipedia "External link spamming" guidelines. Clicking the "Edit" link, either at the top of the page, or next to the References section, gives me the source editor but does not show any of the links on the page, only a list of categories. I tried this with another entry, just to see if this was a peculiarity of this one page, and had the same experience.

How do I edit/delete these references?

The entry is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_Kiva

You should be able to see the coding for the references if you click the "Edit" at the top of the article, or any of the article sections. You are correct, if you click "edit" at the "References" section, all you'll see is code. This article uses inline citations, as is proper. The first reference is encoded this way: "<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.aguntherphotography.com/usa_west/canyonlands/false-kiva.html |title=False Kiva | Andre Gunther Photography |publisher=Aguntherphotography.com |date= |accessdate=2010-03-16 |deadurl=yes |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20100404150454/http://www.aguntherphotography.com/usa_west/canyonlands/false-kiva.html |archivedate=2010-04-04 |df= }}</ref>", and appears as the first reference within the "References" section. I hope that helps. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 21:11, 13 August 2018 (UTC)