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John Mogg (British Army officer)

I have stuffed up infobox. Sorry175.32.106.109 (talk) 00:01, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello, I have restored the original article version. When your edits break the article's formatting by accident (happens to all of us), please revert the edit before asking for help. Could you be more specific and describe what kind of information you tried to add please? Or were you trying to link a new image? With a few more details it's easier to help you with the problem. GermanJoe (talk) 00:19, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

I have failed to correctly add a file in the "Family and Royal connections" section of this page. Please fix if you are able and please just place the name of Sophie, Countess of Wessex as the only words under the file if you are able. Sorry. 175.32.106.109 (talk) 10:07, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

 Fixed As has been mentioned to you previously, there is a pre-formatted link at the commons page for use of the file on Wikipedia. Copy and paste that into the Wiki article. Further, as has also been asked of you before, please do not start multiple threads with the same heading. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 10:40, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Help with "noindex" tag for article M. H. Krishna

Hi, I recently created a page on a personality who passed away in 1947. It is of M. H. Krishna - the eminent Indian historian, archaeologist and Epigraphist. I have sufficed enough references and bibliography links. Sadly, there is a noindex html attribute which prevents leading search engines from picking up this page. Can someone please remove this tag..? This historian needs to be read by Indian youngsters today for his vast corpus of academic work. I have no personal gain in doing this nor I am related to the personality. Please advice. Thanks. bugs2beatles 04:03, 26 August 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bugs2beatles (talk • contribs)

• Note:  Fixed, by Jimfbleak. Eagleash (talk) 06:13, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Julie Bishop MP (Australian politician)

Julie Bishop (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Someone has ceased her term as Minister for Foreign Affairs. This is wrong. All she has announced today is that she is gong to the backbench. She has not resigned and is still the Minister for Foreign Affairs until that appointment is determined by the Australian Governor-General. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.152.108.110 (talk) 04:59, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

FWIW, the title of the current BBC website report on this is "Julie Bishop resigns as Australia's Foreign Minister." The link is here. Whether under the Australian constitution she is de jure still in the post until a successor is appointed, or not, is outside my knowledge, but by de facto everyday understanding, she clearly is not. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.121.162.183 (talk) 06:44, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Technically she may still be Minister for Foreign Affairs until the Gov-Gen says she isn't, but I'd be pretty certain she won't be doing much Foreign Ministering in the interim. The Australian Broadcasting Corporation, one of the best sources on such matters, says "Former deputy Liberal leader Julie Bishop has quit her job as minister for foreign affairs" That's good enough for me. HiLo48 (talk) 07:00, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

WP:RSBREAKING: "Breaking news reports often contain serious inaccuracies[...] It is better to wait a day or two after an event before adding details to the encyclopedia, than to help spread potentially false rumors". I noticed that this news is changing, some sources say she has quit, others say she is to be replaced. Let's discuss it in article's talk page. @HiLo48. Thinker78 (talk) 06:00, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Bot for en.wikipedia

I'm trying to find that BOT, to manually update WikiProjects. It was eng10.wikimedia.tools or something. I forget the exact URL Address. Adamdaley (talk) 10:38, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

There have been many bots updating various parts of WikiProjects. You should be more specific about what exactly you want to update. Ruslik_Zero 19:01, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

• Don't worry I had written it down and couldn't find the pad that it was in. I've found the URL for the bot. Adamdaley (talk) 01:42, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

About my watchlist

I've noticed that whenever I use Twinkle to revert unconstructive edits on articles, the articles get automatically added to my watchlist. I have nearly 4,000 pages on my watchlist due to this. How can I stop this? JACKINTHEBOX • ^TALK 10:41, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

You can deactivate notifications to whatever degree you wish in your Twinkle Preferences. Go to Preferences(in the upper right corner of the screen), then Gadgets, then next to the line about Twinkle there is a Twinkle Preferences link. 331dot (talk) 11:48, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! JACKINTHEBOX • ^TALK 18:10, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

@JackintheBox: If you think it might be useful to have the page added to your watchlist on a temporary basis, say a few days perhaps, so you would see if someone tries to revert your reversion, but drop off your watchlist after that period of time, you might weigh in here: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#WATCHLIST...._page_and_editor_specific_snooze_option. There is a proposal to do exactly that but it is currently stalled. It is my hope is that if people realize how valuable it would be, the priority of the request might get a useful bump.

New page creation for Vijay Babu Sreedharan - edit 1

He is a well known personality who doesnt want to come to forefront but as his fb viewership croosed 1 lac/day, fb has contacted him and was asked to create a wikipedia page so that his account will not be deactivated. As i m new to wikipedia as an editor kindly guide me on how to get through it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vijay Babu Sreedharan (talk • contribs) 11:39, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

@Vijay Babu Sreedharan: I am assuming you are talking about yourself; if you are not Vijay, you will need to change your username at WP:CHU. You really should not create an article about yourself, please see WP:AUTO. If you meet the notability criteria for an article at WP:BIO, someone independent of you will eventually create an article about you. Wikipedia has no interest in your online presence or Facebook verification. In terms of notability, it doesn't matter if you have 10 viewers a day, a thousand viewers a day, or ten million viewers a day; if no independent reliable sources write about you, you would not merit an article on Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 11:44, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

... and Google doesn't seem to know about you under that exact name, or at least returns only your request here when I search. I suggest that you go back to Facebook. Dbfirs 15:55, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

reference numbers

Can anyone tell me why reference numbers appear in the text within square brackets in English (and also in German), but without square brackets in French (and also in Spanish)

Am I missing something ?

Fuhndhu (talk) 18:32, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

@Fuhndhu: Each language version of Wikipedia is pretty much independent (with the exception of a few certain very serious things that would potentially threaten the Wikimedia Foundation itself). The communities at Fr.Wikipedia and Es.Wikipedia just decided no square brackets looked nicer (which is pretty standard), we just decided square brackets were easier to read. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:41, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

I hope I'm doing this the right way. Thank you for clearing this up. I agree with you that square brackets make it easier to read. But now I know the convention I'll work with it.

I'm having a lot of difficulty. I did the online WikiMooc course, but I seem to have forgetten everything. I'm trying to clean up a page with links to "no page found", but when I touch one link, another one disappears. I'll get there eventually.

Fuhndhu (talk) 20:26, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

• Fuhndhu, when you use <ref>....</ref> to add a reference or a citation in any article on the English Wikipedia, the square brackets are shown automatically. You don't need to manually add the same. I'm mentioning this because I suspect your statement "But now I know the convention I'll work with it" alludes to perhaps thinking you need to add the square brackets yourself (which you don't). For understanding how to edit here, you may wish to read Wikipedia:FAQ#How do I edit a page?. If you need more assistance, just ask. Lourdes 01:52, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Question

hello,

I am the administrator of the artist's page, singer, Amira Medunjanin. Please allow me to make changes to the page that concerns her.

Best Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enigma666rock (talk • contribs) 21:12, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Here is the article in question Amira Medunjanin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). It is not protected but it looks like there may be a WP:COI situation. MarnetteD|Talk 21:17, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Enigma666rock, but you are not "the administrator" for any Wikipedia page. Nobody is. Nobody owns any Wikipedia article; and anybody may edit most articles - but if you have a close connection with the subject of the page then you are one of the few people who should not edit the article directly. Please read the link MarnetteD gave you. --ColinFine (talk) 21:57, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Enigma666rock. We need to make clear that artists don't have pages on Wikipedia, and pages here do not have administrators. Wikipedia has articles about artists that are WP:notable in the Wikipedia sense, and anyone can edit pages here. If you are being paid to edit, then you are required by our terms of use to comply with WP:PAID. It would help if you can find some WP:Reliable sources that are independent of the artist. Wikipedia has no interest in what she says about herself, only in what independent sources say about her. Perhaps someone who can read Serbian can check the sources that you have provided? Please do not upload copyright photos to Wikipedia unless you took the photo yourself. Dbfirs 21:56, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Enigma666rock: the article now contains unreferenced promotional statements, such as "Synergy that is achieved there is completely refreshing and it contributed to the development and popularization of two diametrically opposite musical genres", that will need to be removed. Maproom (talk) 07:57, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Does this website work for anyone?

Hi, Does this load for anyone outside of the UK ?, It currently says "You don't have permission to access "http://www.ksdk.com/" on this server." so not sure if the website is like it for everyone or just us Brits (due to the privacy laws changing), Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 21:53, 26 August 2018

It loaded for me (USA).--S Philbrick(Talk) 23:02, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm in the UK and I got 'Access Denied' and 'You don't have permission to access "http://www.ksdk.com/"'. Adam9007 (talk) 23:03, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Ah thanks Sphilbrick & Adam, Us Brits have been denied entry to their website then, A notice would've been nicer but hey ho, Anyway thanks again. –Davey2010^Talk 23:08, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

I just tried it and it works for me (in the U.S.A.).Eddie Blick (talk) 02:14, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Loads instantly for me on an Android smartphone in California. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:19, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

... so can anyone explain why users in the UK get the message "You don't have permission to access "http://www.ksdk.com/" on this server. Reference #18.8367a5c.1535350710.18d5495a"? Dbfirs 06:24, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Sometimes, when websites get a significantly large amount of spam/bot attacks/dos attacks from a particular range, they block that range from viewing/editing... similar to us, but on a wider scale I guess. You could try clearing out all your cookies and history and try again. That works (sometimes); else, just wait it out. Lourdes 06:36, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

No, it's not a browser cookie or cache problem. I've tried four different browsers and three different operating systems. Is the whole of Europe blocked? 86.142.154.99 (talk) 15:26, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Probably, yes, for reasons relating to the General Data Protection Regulation. My understanding is that certain U.S.-based sites have chosen to simply block all visitors from EU countries, rather than comply with the new regulations. Some (e.g., off the top of my head, the Chicago Tribune) have helpful notices explaining the situation; others, such as KSDK, do not. This BBC article has more information. @Davey2010: This may have already occurred to you, but I've found that generally when I'm looking for an article from such a site, it's possible to access a Google cached version of the page via Google search results. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 16:40, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Can't access the page from Poland, either. I "don't have permissions to access" neither from my PC (Windows 10) nor from mobile (Android 5.1.1). --CiaPan (talk) 08:10, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Just think. When Brexit happens, this will stop cos those Tories will be sure to repeal the EU Data stupidity when we leave. Wont they? -Roxy, the dog. barcus 08:14, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

@Davey2010: It loaded for me (Hong Kong) —AE (talk • contributions) 08:16, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

@Davey2010: Also not accessible (same "Access denied" message) in Germany. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 18:10, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Yeah it appears to be an EU wide blocking Galobtter (pingó mió) 18:13, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

• Thanks all, I assumed this only applied to us Brits but reading further it seems to apply to alot more countries, I was only asking as I couldn't access a cite and didn't want to remove the cite if it was just a UK thing, –Davey2010^Talk 16:45, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

You can always use proxy browsers to check such sites in the future.​ Lourdes 18:01, 27 August 2018 (UTC)