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January 22

About Global IPBE unable to edit via Tor Browser

Hi everyone, I am 1233. I want to have a quick question about the problem which occurs over me: I am currently holding a global IPBE, which enables me to bypass TOR lock. However, I am unable to do so, which makes me be restricted to contribute to this wiki. I want to know if Tor exit nodes are double banned locally in English Wikipedia? --1233^Talk 05:13, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Hello 1233, I may be wrong but I notice in your global account info that you belong to the ip-block exempt group only at zh.wikipedia.org and not on en.wikipedia.org. I suspect that having the global ip-block exempt right does not automatically add you to the English Wikipedia's ip-block exempt group (the "group" is different from the "right"). It's only when you get added to the ip-block exempt group that you get the additional torunblocked right. For example, administrators on the English Wikipedia have automatic ip block exempt rights, but do not have the torunblocked rights, so cannot use TOR browsers for editing, unless they separately request for being added to the ip-block exempt group. In summary, simply apply for the rights here using the procedure described at Wikipedia:IP block exemption#Used for anonymous proxy editing, mentioning that you already have been added to the ip-block exempt group at zh.wikipedia.org. But of course, other editors here may have clearer answers for you. Thanks, Lourdes 08:59, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

@Lourdes:, according to this explaination of Global IP Block Exempt, which I am talking about, it shows that it does have the permission of torunblocked. This made me curious if the local wiki did block tor exit nodes as another layer.--1233^Talk 09:03, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

You're right of course. I'll request PrimeHunter who may have more insights into this. In the meanwhile, try to do some test edits through a fresh browser (or after clearing the cookies in your current browser) just to be sure you're not being stopped by a cookie block. Thanks, Lourdes 13:39, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

A lot of Tor proxies (but by no means all) are locally blocked both as Tor and for a variety of other reasons. You will not be able to edit from these "double-banned" IPs without a local exemption. You can tell if this is the case when you try to edit - whether you see MediaWiki:Torblock-blocked or some other block message. If it's some other message then try changing IP and editing from a different exit node (a few times). -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 14:09, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

I don't have anything to contribute. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:08, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Realistically speaking, I have tried to apply for a local IP block redemption with regards to my global block event flag. However, I just failed at doing so. I just want to contribute, but by no means would it be able properly would I be blocked at Tor (Realistically speaking, changing exit nodes just to bypass a block in an ineffective way is quite an issue for me.) 1233^Talk 01:23, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

1233, the procedure listed at Wikipedia:IP block exemption suggests that you contact the functionaries for getting local ip-block exemption. You could email them at functionaries-en@lists.wikimedia.org with a brief request. Lourdes 03:07, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Editing the Film page for STILL (film)

Hi there,

I work for the production company that made STILL (film). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Still_(film)

I wanted to add some film festivals and additional reviews and also to possibly replace the synopsis which at the moment is far too long.

Over the weekend we had someone add some of the festivals that our film had been to, but these were deleted, why is that?

Blunt Stuff Blunt stuff (talk) 06:41, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

• Note; editor is currently blocked for persistent disruptive edits.

@Blunt stuff: There are messages at your talk page which go some way to explaining the situation as do the edit summaries left by other editors. However, in brief, the edits were removed because listing multiple festivals at which a film has been shown is not considered conventional practice. Moreover, the edits were promotional, removed negative reviews and also (perhaps most importantly) contained copyright violations. You also need to read WP:PAID and WP:COI and make the necessary disclosures. This is not optional you must do this if you wish to resume editng once the block has expired. Eagleash (talk) 07:04, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks for you response. My apologies - I have not edited on Wikipedia before and wasn't entirely aware of the rules. I will not remove any of the negative reviews. I would however like to add some more of the positive ones. We were merely wanting to make the page a little more reflective of the reception the film had received as our reviews. Our positive to negative ratio was more along the lines of 70:30 in terms of critic reviews. However, I do appreciate your notes. I did not realise that listing festivals was outside of the norm. Are we allowed to list awards as per other pages that have done the same eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taking_Stock

Many thanks, Blunt Stuff Blunt stuff (talk) 22:12, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Spelling issues

Hello, please, I am new here. I want to know how I can get to edit on spelling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KnowledgeExplorer (talk • contribs) 11:07, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Hey KnowledgeExplorer. You may want to consider taking our interactive tutorial at The Wikipedia Adventure, which can help orient you to how editing Wikipedia generally works. GMG^talk 14:19, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict)There are automated scripts that are used to go through articles looking for spelling errors, but they can't find them all, so when you see a spelling error, just correct it, but beware of changing from one variety of English to another because this is usually unhelpful. See WP:ENGVAR for details. Dbfirs 14:27, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

@KnowledgeExplorer: If fixing spelling interests you, then check out the typo team at WP:TYPO. There is information and links there on how to find and correct spelling errors in the encyclopedia. RudolfRed (talk) 17:24, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Michael Stevens page is wrong

You see I did this and its been changed, can you fix it please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.92.185.147 (talk) 12:40, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

There are no edits to a page of that name from the IP address shown. Please provide a link to the page in question as there are several Michael Stevens. Please also clarify what you feel is wrong and what changes you would like to see made. Please provide appropriate references. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 13:08, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Question about uploading free images that came from another websites.

So I have a question. Does free images from another websites can be uploaded on Wikipedia? Many images are taken using a camera and uploaded on another website by others. I know it is not copyrighted, but I'm not sure if it's acceptable here on Wikipedia or not. PhinbellaMedia (talk) 12:52, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

• Note; above moved from talk page. Eagleash (talk) 13:00, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

How do you know that the photographs are not copyright? Usually the photographer will own the copyright. Dbfirs 14:16, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

PhinbellaMedia, copyrighted text and images are not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. Images are considered copyright unless they state clearly and explicitly that they are public domain, or are verifiable as so old that they are out of copyright. Copyright images can only be used if their copyright status is clearly marked as CC BY-SA 3.0 or equivalent which allows free distribution use and modificationfor any purpose including commercial. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:24, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

• According to current copyright law, images (and text) are copyrighted automatically and with no need for an explicit declaration of copyright. The creator is the copyright holder. The copyright holder may choose to release the work into the public domain or to release it under a liberal license, but only by making an explicit declaration. Wikipedia has a policy of adhering to the law: we don't "choose" to reject copyrighted works: rather, we try hard to avoid breaking the law. -Arch dude (talk) 15:49, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Is my user page good enough to be a real page?

Would my user page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Saxo_Broko be able to become a real page E,g https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxo_Broko — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saxo Broko (talk • contribs) 15:02, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

No. The criteria for a Wikipedia article are at WP:Notability, and you would also need to read the advice at WP:Your first article, and the advice against autobiography. Your page is also not suitable as a user page. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:26, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Sorry, NO Saxo Broko, you should please blank your userpage, see WP:FAKEARTICLE. If you one day become notable, somebody else will notice and maybe write an article about you. Kind regards, Sam Sailor 15:29, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

The name of Folketeateret is not spelled correct. How do I change it.

I represent the owner of Folketeateret in Oslo. www.folketeateret.no. The main name of the article is not correctly spelled. There is a theatre in Copenhagen that is called Folketeatret, but we are Folketeateret. The incorrect spelling of our nam here at Wikipedia also leads to incorrect spelling on Googlemaps etc.

How du I change the main name of the article?

My email is <redacted>

Knud Dahl Managing Director Folketeateret — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.74.178.234 (talk) 15:57, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

I have moved the page to the correct spelling ~ GB fan 16:10, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

I did too! I wondered why it put me into editing the redirect. By the way, the only substantial source cited spells it as "Folketeatret". I am guessing that this is a Riksmal/Nynorsk issue. --ColinFine (talk) 16:16, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much! :) Knud Dahl.

Correction of my name

Please, I would like to correct my username. How can I do this ? The correct one is Leonardo Juvencio de Carvalho

Tks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leonardo JUvencio de Carvalho (talk • contribs) 17:37, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

The procedure is explained at WP:UNC. Note the comment about accounts with few edits, which seems to apply in this case. Dorsetonian (talk) 17:51, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Is it possible?

Is it even possible to send thanks to an edit done by an IP address? It looks like you can only send thanks to an edit done by someone who has registered an account... If it isn't possible, why can't I do it? I found many edits done by IP addresses that I wanted to send thanks to but I can't do it... VibeScepter (talk) (contributions) 20:07, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

@VibeScepter: According to WP:THANK it only works for registered users. You could leave a thank you message on the IP editor's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 20:28, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

But to whom exactly do you want to send your thank? Today one person may be behind an IP address and the next day it may be another person? Ruslik_Zero 20:30, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

If you're referring to edits that you discover some time after they've been made, there's little point in thanking the editor in question – making edits to improve articles is why most of us come here in the first place. However, edits to an article are often discussed in its Talk page before being made, so if you're a participant in, or passive reader of, such a discussion while it happens (which may take place over several days) you could add a line thanking the IP Editor at the end of that discussion. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.200.41.3 (talk) 22:29, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

If it's worth doing, I do it like this. Whether they'll ever read it is anyone's guess. nagualdesign 16:37, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Page on The Spitz

This page erroneously quotes “Roland Pietsch” as “venue manager”. I worked with Roland for years and he was a part time bartender who helped with the banking once a week. I was The Spitz’s Venue Manager for years - I changed it from being a venue with the occasional outside promotion to over 10 in-house promotions per month and shows 7 days a week on two floors. I booked all the bands listed on the Wikipedia page, except one or two. I put on 4 festivals per year and booked over 1000 bands per year at the Spitz during this time. I was VM from 2002 til 2008, and before me it was Joel Mills. It’s not important in terms of ego but it was extremely hard work and had nothing to do with Roland - credit where credit’s due and all that, and I do think historically accurate articles are preferred. Thanks and btw it’s cool to see a page on The Spitz it was a magical adventure and totally unique. Martin Wissenberg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.29.165.191 (talk) 20:24, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

It was added here a little over 10 years ago, and the name looks like a signature in article space. I have removed it. Dorsetonian (talk) 20:31, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

MLT Aikins LLP

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MLT Aikins LLP is a full-service law firm with a distinguished history, providing years of industry experience to Western Canada. With more than 240 lawyers across six locations, MLT Aikins is one of the largest firms in Canada, well-equipped to handle the multifaceted needs of its clients. MLT Aikins was created in January 2017 as a result of the merger of Aikins, Macaulay & Thorvaldson (Aikins) and MacPherson Leslie & Tyerman (MLT). MLT Aikins is the only law firm to have offices in Winnipeg (MB), Regina (SK), Saskatoon (SK), Calgary (AB), Edmonton (AB) and Vancouver (BC). MLT Aikins lawyers are continuously recognized for their hard work and results by publications such as Lexpert, Chambers Global, Martindale-Hubbell, Best Lawyers and Benchmark Canada.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Npaulhunnighan (talk • contribs) 21:10, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

@Npaulhunnighan: This isn't the place to start an article. Please read through WP:YFA and use the wizard there to create a draft for review. Remember that this is an encyclopedia and not a place to list or promote your business. RudolfRed (talk) 21:38, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

You might also want to look at WP:Neutral and WP:COI. Jap2.0 (talk) 21:43, 22 January 2018 (UTC)