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October 7

Afc Draft:Tyler Adkison review with Copyright violation

Due to lack of knowledge I had used content and reference of few websites in my draft Draft:Tyler Adkison. Post getting the comments from a reviewer. I have fixed the problem in my knowledge. Can you please guide me how can I remove the speedy deletion event against this article page.

Thanks you so much. Vsp.manu (talk) 05:46, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

David duke has endorsed biden so not far right also white supremacy is a far left thing not far right

David duke is far left and has endorsed biden Richard Spencer likes Democrat leaders lik Jackson and Wilson and is a progressive — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.75.205.220 (talk) 08:09, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

If this is with regards to an article, comments about an article's content should be made on its associated talk page. 331dot (talk) 09:02, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Amit Gefen page

Hi, my name is Orel and part of my job at Amit's lab is to write his Wikipedia page. those who tried before me were not able to upload it for many reasons that seems to be fixed. my question is, how can I make sure that the page will get approval now? I'm afraid that the page will get blocked if I will try too many times. Can someone review the page and be specific on what i need to change? I am comparing to other pages and trying to make it look pretty much the same, but it is diffecult to do when you were decline too many times.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ofir2390 (talk • contribs)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Amit_Gefen&action=edit&section=1

@Ofir2390: Hello Orel, and welcome to the Help desk. First of all, thank you for being open about your relationship. As for Draft:Amit Gefen, I have a few suggestions. First, please have a look at WP:REFNAME about named references. It allows you to use the same reference on multiple places. Secondly, the [[Draft:Amit_Gefen#Book_participation[6]|Book participation]] section is overflowing (its already more than half the page's length). Please reduce that. Interested readers can still follow the link there. Thirdly, the entire 'Biography section does not have inline citations. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 10:35, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Further to the reply from Victor Schmidt mobil, you need to read the advice about conflict of interest and make the mandatory declaration of paid editing. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:33, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Consider also that it's not "his" WP-page, see Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:30, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@Ofir2390: Editors in good standing here are volunteers. You are trying to create this page by instruction of your employer and are thus a paid editor. I see no reason for a volunteer to help you to achieve paid or career objectives. As a paid editor you are deemed to be 100% compeent to write your own articles, but must not move them to main space, nor edit them there. You are required to use WP:AFC. Each review has gven you sufficient advice Fiddle Faddle 12:57, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Page incomplete information

I have to remove to my old organization's page because of incomplete information and want to make a new one with proper and complete information. The page name (Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_Hospitals) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.209.80.130 (talk) 09:54, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

First, you will need to review and comply with the conflict of interest and paid editing policies. If there is incorrect information in the article about your organization, please make a formal edit request(click for instructions) on the article talk page, Talk:Indus Hospitals, detailing the exact changes you feel are needed. Please understand that Wikipedia articles primarily summarize what independent reliable sources say about an organization, not what it wants to say about itself. Though we strive to be accurate, the article about your organization is not meant as a source for up to the minute current information. 331dot (talk) 09:59, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

The existing article belongs to Wikipedia and not to you or the hospital organization, so you do not have the authority to remove it or any part of it. Any Wikipedia editor (about 100,000 of us in the last 30 days) is free to make properly-cited changes to the article, EXCEPT for editors such as yourself who have a conflict of interest and who therefore must request edits instead. -Arch dude (talk) 15:44, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Questions about the entry European Energy Exchange

 Courtesy link: European Energy Exchange

Dear Wikipedia Help Desk,

I'm writing you regarding the entry for: European Energy Exchange on Wikipedia.

There is a note that says the article might be written like an advertisement. I browsed through the text in order to identify this passage however, I could not find anything that sounds promotional.

As I always strive to improve my writing skills and would like to understand Wikipedia better, I would like to ask you if you could help me further identifying the promotional hints?

Thank you very much for you help.

Best regards, Ursula — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ursula Goetze (talk • contribs) 13:47, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@Ursula Goetze: This passage makes me want to read it as ad copy:

On 2 September 2014, the European Energy Exchange (EEX) launched its new transparency site. At www.eex-transparency.com, visitors can gain access to comprehensive fundamental data and relevant information for wholesale energy trading. The website is a further development of the existing platform "Transparency in Energy Market" and contains information about capacity, utilization and availability of facilities for the production of electricity as well as new information on the storage of electricity and natural gas consumption.

Second sentence in particular. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:54, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@Ursula Goetze: Also note "secure, liquid and transparent markets" in the lede of the article. These may be correct technical terms in the context of your industry, but they look like WP:PEACOCK terms to a general reader. Perhaps use a more general NPOV like "services", and then define these services for the general reader later in the article. -Arch dude (talk) 16:44, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

@Ursula Goetze: based on the edit history of that article, it appears that you may be a paid editor (e.g., an employee of the company). Please read and comply with WP:PAID, which is mandatory under the terms of use of this site. If you are not paid, you may still fall nuder the WP:COI guidelines. In either case you should cease directly editing the article, and you should instead suggest changes via the {{edit request}} mechanism. -Arch dude (talk) 16:51, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

How to Create Company Wikipedia Page?

Hello,

I'm going through the all the information available and am curious if there are any specific instructions with regards to creating a COMPANY Wikipedia page. Are there any restrictions, guidelines, etc?

Please advise - thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:648:8101:B3F0:4D2C:F4BB:1A1B:E72D (talk) 15:22, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

You don't, because you are a paid editor with a conflict of interest. See WP:PAID and WP:COI. Your company should have an article here at Wikipedia if and only if it is notable by our definition: see WP:NCORP. This is easy to mess up: see WP:CSMN. If, after carefully reviewing these, you feel sure your company really is notable, then create an account with a personal (not corporate) username WP:USERNAME, declare your paid status WP:PAID, identify about three rock-solid references WP:CSMN, and proceed to WP:YFA to build a draft article. Your draft will be reviewed, with a special attention to notability. If those references are not adequate, your efforts will be wasted and you will be frustrated, and your only recourse will be to make your company more notable in the real world: see WP:AMOUNT. Please come back here for specific help if needed. -Arch dude (talk) 15:36, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

I would add to the good explanation above that if and when the article(not just a "page") is accepted, you would no longer be able to edit it directly; you would need to make edit requests. Wikipedia is only interested in what others say about a company, not what it wants to say about itself. 331dot (talk) 15:39, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

A barn for you!

Greetings, keepers of the eternal flame!

I don't do barnstars, but here's a couple of pics of a tithe barn near where I used to live, signifying my ongoing gratitude for the mostly thankless task to which you apply yourselves. So, massive shout out to all the WP volunteers who contribute to this page. Although patrolling the help desk must often seem repetitive and mundane, the quality of the answers when I have been searching for some deep-down recondite piece of info from the bowels of WP have been overwhelmingly concise, speedy and helpful. Nice one, all. MinorProphet (talk) 15:26, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@MinorProphet: As one of those who labor here in sector 7G, I personally appreciate your taking the time to post this. Cheers! —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:20, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Getting my business its own wiki page

Hello,

I am wondering how i can get my start up company its own wiki page so that when people seahc it they can find information about it on here? Please let me know

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hearnedorothy (talk • contribs) 16:57, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Hearnedorothy First, you must review the conflict of interest policy, as well as paid editing for information on formal disclosures you may be required to make. Wikipedia is not a place for businesses to tell the world about themselves and/or aid search results for them. This is an encyclopedia that has articles, not mere "pages". Those articles must summarize what independent reliable sources] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about(in this case) a business, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable business. "Significant coverage" does not include press releases, the company website, staff interviews, announcement of routine business transactions like the raising of capital or opening of locations, or other primary sources.

Your use of the term "startup" strongly suggests that your business does not yet meet the notability criteria; new businesses rarely do. A business must generally already be established to merit a Wikipedia article. An article might sound great for your business, but it is actually not necessarily desirable. There are good reasons to not want one. 331dot (talk) 17:04, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Correcting the title of an article

Is it possible for me to correct the title of this article? Llanstephan is misspelt. (The 'edit source' option does not appear to enable this.)

Horatius At The Bridge (talk) 18:43, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@Horatius At The Bridge:The pagename is changed by 'moving' the page. This is enabled via the 'more' tab at the top of the page. As your account is WP:AUTOCONFIRMED this should be available to you. Note that articles use whatever is the commonname; please check whether this has been discussed before and if not, propose the change at the article talk page to find consensus. See WP:MOVE for more information. Please note that changing the file name in the markup means that the image will not display as it it will then link to a file that does not exist. The image file would have to be moved also. Eagleash (talk) 19:01, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm obliged Eagleash and will follow your advice Horatius At The Bridge (talk) 19:36, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

First ever edit ditched by someone called Serols

....because it was unhelpful

Why would folk not want to know the meaning in English of a Gaelic Hill name

Perhaps you could ask Serols to elaborate?

Thanks

Gav — Preceding unsigned comment added by GavfaeDundee (talk • contribs) 18:52, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@GavfaeDundee: I suspect this was reverted as Serols considered it misplaced at the top of the infobox. The name there would typically match the article title. If the translation was placed in the lead after the boldname say, in brackets, 'English, XXXXX', I think that would probably be acceptable. The editor concerned is one of Wikipedia's experienced and prolific disruption fighters and will often use automated tools fo find problems. This *can* lead to mis-identification and the tools are not really for use when it comes to good faith edits. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 19:14, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes your edit was OK, but asking User:Serols to elaborate is going to be up to you.

It was OK, but it wasn't faultless, because you didn't provide a reference, and also because it would probably better to put it in the body of the text like this: "Aonach Shasuinn (English: Hill of the Saxon; 888 m) is..."

According the key rule WP:BRD, the usual sequence is supposed to be:

1) You make your edit, as you did, and as is right and proper.

2) Another editor (User:Serols in this case) reverts it, as is their right.

3) You accept the reversion for the time being and open up a thread on the article's talk page giving your reasons for your edit and asking for discussion.

4) If and when there's general agreement that your original edit was OK, you put it back; if not, then not.

User:Serols ought to have given an edit summary explaining why he reverted your edit, but he didn't, and it's not strictly required. Your next step is then is the article talk page.

If no one else engages, which could happen as its a rather obscure article -- if neither User:Serols nor anyone else provides a reason that your edit shouldn't stand -- then after a reasonable time (10 days maybe?) well then User:Serols has had her chance, and you're justified in re-adding your edit. You should note in the talk page thread "no objection having been offered, I'm restoring the edit" or something.

Keep in mind that if you should provide a reference, and if you don't the material will probably be tagged for deletion and eventually deleted anyway, though.

So, it's off to the article talk page for you next. Herostratus (talk) 19:40, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello Herostratus, thank you for your explanation. GavfaeDundee got information from me, that's why he asked here. Thanks --Serols (talk) 11:20, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

GavfaeDundee, another possibility would have been to contact me on my talk page, I would have explained everything to you - unsourced and wrong place. Please excuse that I scared you so, I deleted the warning. Regards --Serols (talk) 11:20, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Please can somebody reinstate RYAN SWAIN (Presenter) wiki

A very rude editor has took it upon himself to delete majority of Ryan Swain’s page. There has been RS made in citations and everyone of them has been taken down. His photograph and info box also taken down when there is no need. Please could some of you look at this and try and amend the page and reinstate it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Swain_(presenter) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.150.170.33 (talk) 19:53, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

You can join the discussion at Talk:Ryan Swain (presenter). WP:BLP may be of help to you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:09, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

2020-21 NBA season by team

What Just one team there need's to be more now. 68.102.42.216 (talk) 20:40, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

You can be WP:BOLD and add what is missing, citing reliable sources. Or you can start a discussion on the article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 21:05, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

How to add a company to the list?

How does one add Richards Building Supply onto this list?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Building_materials_companies_of_the_United_States

Richards Building Supply has been around since 1978 and has over 60 locations and growing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:249:F00:1511:9C01:21A0:9104:3A86 (talk) 20:50, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

That is a category, which groups together like articles, not a list. If the company meets the Wikipedia definition of a notable company, and receives significant coverage in independent reliable sources, it would merit an article that summarizes those sources. Be advised that successfully creating a new article is the absolute hardest task to perform on Wikipedia- but if you wish to try, please read Your first article and go to Articles for creation. 331dot (talk) 20:54, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

copyright issue from copy pasting

 Courtesy link: Dwight Morrow High School

The article [1] was about Dwight Morrow. It was copy pasted to Academies at Englewood and copy pasted back to create Dwight Morrow. This has to be fixed which Wikipedia administrators say to do [2] or else there will be copyright issues. Even the people talking in that Talk:Academies at Englewood page are talking about Dwight Morrow. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.66.16.106 (talk) 21:21, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Auto-hidden title?

I know that pages like Wikipedia:New user landing page have a hidden title because of the template {{hidden title}}. I also know that the Main Page has a hidden title, but automatically hidden titles? I don't know if this is a bug or if we need to write a phab ticket, but the word "Main Page" (specifically with a capital M and a capital P) followed by any number of everyday symbols or punctuation will hide the title. See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page%24 for an example of the title "Main Page$". Also, the title "Main Page." (followed by a period) at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page.&redirect=no also has a hidden title. It seems like the title is automatically hidden for whatever unknown reason. Is this a problem with MediaWiki, or is it just a bug or something? Gioguch (talk) 23:21, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@Gioguch: I investigated, it seems to be a problem of MediaWiki and the way how the title is hidden. Explanation: Whenever you load a page, mediaWiki will attach a CSS class to the <body>-Element that takes the form "page-normalised Page Name". Because Special Characters are not allowed in CSS classes, MediaWiki Will remove them and replace spaces with underscores. Therefore, both the class for Main Page and Main Page. will end up page-Main_Page the logic which hides the title is contained within MediaWiki:Common.css and is basically the following: Whenever you see a Element with the class ".page-MainPage", hide child elements with the id #firstHeading (which is the page title). Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 06:05, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

@Victor Schmidt mobil: Ok, but when you go to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page%24&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile, which is the mobile view version for "Main Page$", it doesn't hide the title nor show "Welcome, (your username)!" It actually shows the title. But how come the CSS class you were talking about only works for desktop view, not for mobile view? Or is it another bug? Gioguch (talk) 15:26, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

@Gioguch:} all the CSS classes and HTML ids are automatically added by MediaWiki (The software behind Wikipedia) when rendering the page for you. That the page title is shown on Mobile is simply caused because the mobile title element doesnt have the id #firstHeading, so the CSS rule that hides them on desktop simply doesnt apply there. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 07:47, 9 October 2020 (UTC)