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Using full name at beginning of second section of biographical article

Could anyone please tell me if it's acceptable to use a person's full name at the beginning of the first sentence of the second section of a biographical article, despite it already being used that way at the beginning of the opening section's first sentence? As I somewhat wrote in this other post from twelve days ago, it seems awkward to me, but maybe that's just my own biases biases overruling better judgment.--Thylacine24 (talk) 00:36, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello Thylacine24. No, this is not proper practice in general. We give a person's full name the first time they are mentioned, and then use their surname in subsequent mentions. One exception is in sections where different people with the same surname are being discussed, often close relatives. In that situation, it may be necessary to use the full name to prevent confusion. Some languages do not use the first name/surname convention, so those names may be treated differently. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:38, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@Cullen328: Thanks for replying. I know what you mean about only using this style if people with the same last name are also being discussed, though in the instance that motivated me to ask this, it used the middle name as well (and no other mentioned family members had the same first name, I think).--Thylacine24 (talk) 01:54, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Thylacine24, in that case, go ahead and make the correction. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:56, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@Cullen328: Thanks. Also, I fixed a link after publishing the first section of this post; sorry not to mention that in an edit note. (Could you please tell me if you think I should add an edit note now?)--Thylacine24 (talk) 11:56, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Thylacine24, please read Help:Dummy edit. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:55, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@Cullen328: I know, I should do that more often. Sorry not to think of it when first posting last night.--Thylacine24 (talk) 21:44, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia font

Hi, I have always had a question about the main page of Wikipedia, https://www.wikipedia.org. Not sure where is the best place to ask this, but here's my question. On the front page, it says "Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia." The word Wikipedia seems to be written in an all caps font with the A at the same height as the W. I've seen those fonts before, and I am wondering, when the following text was written in HTML, was the A capitalized, as in "WikipediA The Free Encyclopedia?" It could be true, because there is a redirect at WikipediA to Wikipedia. Sorry if this is not the right place to ask this question. You can leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions. Gioguch (talk) 00:40, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@Gioguch: That text is actually part of the Wikipedia logo image file. You may wish to discuss it on the talk page of Wikipedia:Wikipedia logos. -Arch dude (talk) 01:25, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@Arch dude: I posted my question on Wikipedia:Wikipedia logos. I see a lot of unanswered questions, so I don't feel most comfortable posting it there. Having that said, do you know if the A is capitalized? Please reply if time allows. Thank you. Gioguch (talk) 04:00, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@Gioguch and Arch dude: It seems to be a wordmark that comes from this svg, which is really just a line drawing (one of several big long SVG path elements in the file) – neither capital nor lower-case. The text that is covered by the image is "Wikipedia". —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 04:32, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@Gioguch and AlanM1:There is an interesting section on the Wikipedia wordmark at Linux Libertine. The wordmark is in the Linux libertine typefont. The first and last characters are capitals. The remaining letters are small caps so WIKIPEDIA. That particular "W" consisting of "crossed V's" is not the font's normal capital "W", but was added to the font for use in the Wikipedia wordmark. The SVG file Alan found was probably generated in Inkscape using the Linux libertine font and then converted from text to polygons within Inkscape. -Arch dude (talk) 04:54, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

I see. I was trying to stress that it is no longer plain text that could be changed easily, that it's intentional (not an error), and that the reference to it as a wordmark probably indicates that it is registered (i.e. changing it would be a big, expensive deal). I think it's probably reg. 4853585 from 2014/2015. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 05:22, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Changing username

How do I change my username? If it is even possible that is.

Thanks in advance for replying. /Daniel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fekalkesamlaren (talk • contribs) 01:59, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@Fekalkesamlaren: Generally, with very few edits like yourself, it is best to just abandon the old account and dont edit from it any more and then create a new account with your desired name. For accounts with more edits, see WP:CHUN RudolfRed (talk) 02:16, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Andhra Pradesh executive capital

Dear sir ,

Good morning ,

Andhra Pradesh capital issues in high court and in article u mention executive capital as vizag . You published against the India constitution system . Kindly remove executive capital. If not possible for u we will file cases against the article .

With regards ,

S.kumar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.36.7.66 (talk) 04:47, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

• Note Legal threat reported to AIV. We cannot help you if you threaten legal action. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 05:04, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Page Name

Good day.

How do I change a page name? I need to add two words to the current page name.

thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GayWorldEvents (talk • contribs) 05:00, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@JohnGWE: You would move the page. Howewer, please be advised that Wikipedia does not use the "official" name, but the most common one. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 10:23, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@VictorSchmidt. Thank you very much. We would like to change it to prevent further confusion. The current name caused litigation due to confusion. JohnGWE (talk) 11:06, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

JohnGWE You may make a page move request at Requested Moves. However, I'm not certain such a request would be accepted, as noted, Wikipedia uses the most common name for a topic, not necessarily the official or legal name. 331dot (talk) 11:13, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

In addition, you need to comply with WP:COI and WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 11:16, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@331dot Thank you. I am trying to figure out how to comply. So many things to read through :-O JohnGWE (talk) 11:21, 24 September 2020 (UTC) @331dot - I dont get paid to update the information JohnGWE (talk) 11:23, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

You did at one point admit, I am the owner of the company. That very definitely falls within our strictures about conflict of interest and compensated editing. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:54, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Could you tell us the name of the article and the name you want to change it to? It may help.Spinney Hill (talk) 09:33, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

History

Where is Nile river — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.114.212.153 (talk) 05:46, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Does Nile answer your question? —teb728 t c 05:59, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Arati Saha

Someone seems to have edited Arati Saha's page. I assume because she is the subject of a Google Doodle today.

How do get this reverted to the original page?

Thanks

Lara — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gingiber (talk • contribs) 08:45, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@Gingiber: There seem to have been a number of unconstrudtive edits today. Several experienced editors have fixed these as far as I can tell. Please feel free to make corrections yourself either by manually fixing or if appropriate, you can revert with a simple edit. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 09:36, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Sushant singh Rajput (again)

discuss at Talk:Sushant Singh Rajput

Sushant singh Rajput was murdered on 13th June night and the case is under investigation. I request you to change the Death to "Under Investigation" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nishtunishaa (talk • contribs) 11:57, 24 September 2020 (UTC) Hello, this has been raised multiple times at this help page. Please read the discussions at the article talk page. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 12:26, 24 September 2020 (UTC) @Eagleash: Do you know if edit filters can be made page-specific? I think it would be useful here and at TH. This is getting ridiculous. It seems to me that if I came to WP looking for a subject, I would search for it and find the talk page much easier than having to figure out where the help desk or Teahouse is. Someone must be directing people here, which is utterly useless. This one even added "(again)", and so knew darn well what they were doing. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 13:36, 24 September 2020 (UTC) @AlanM1: No, that was me added the 'again' I'm afraid :P. Should have made that obvious I suppose! The OP didn't bother with a heading at all. I know nothing about edit filters... I'm hopelessly untechnical a lot of the time. Eagleash (talk) 13:44, 24 September 2020 (UTC) I seem to recall that an editor (possibly Arch D) created some sort of sub-page or -section which grouped all the previous posts together. Eagleash (talk) 13:46, 24 September 2020 (UTC) Edit filters can be made page-specific, but they still have to run on every single edit made to Wikipedia to first check if the edit is to this page or not, so they're rarely used. While I don't really follow what's going on with edit filters, I don't recall any public page-specific edit filters. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:26, 24 September 2020 (UTC) I asked what options are available at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Sushant_Singh_Rajput_spam_at_WP:HD_/_WP:TH. TigraanClick here to contact me 14:32, 24 September 2020 (UTC) In this edit the OP tried to change other editors' messages in the article's talk page. That sort of deliberate deception is not acceptable. David Biddulph (talk) 14:19, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Malicious editing

Who do i report a suspicious or malicious editing to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.31.162.163 (talk) 12:19, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

That depends on what type of maliciousness it is. If it's blatant vandalism from a new account it is possible to report to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism, but from the way you word your question it seems like you're referring to something else. Could you explain further? – Thjarkur (talk) 13:08, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Errors on the NYU Athletics Wikipedia Page

Who is responsible for the information on this page? I work at NYU and I see some glaring errors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.122.44.12 (talk) 15:11, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

No one is responsible and conversely all Wikipedia editors are responsible (including yourelf!). If you have changes you wish to see made you can propose them at the article talk page. Please do not edit the page directly yourself as you have what Wikipedia refers to as a conflict of interest (please read that page for more information). Please see Template:Request edit for instructions on how to do this correctly. Thank you for wanting to help out. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 15:27, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

In addition, you will need to provide reliable sources to corroborate any changes you suggest. Eagleash (talk) 15:52, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Notable Wikipedian template

Does anyone know anyone involved with the {{Notable Wikipedian}} template; its creation, maintenance or usage?

Currently it exists only as a redirect to the {{Connected contributor}}. If this once made sense, it sure doesn't do that any longer, at least not to me. I would like to learn more.

Feel free to discuss here instead if you like: Template talk:Connected contributor#Notable Wikipedian. Regards, CapnZapp (talk) 15:15, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

FWIW It was moved in 2010 as a result of a discussion found here. Does seem rather odd at first sight though. Eagleash (talk) 15:21, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

USS Scabbardfish

Hi, my father served on the USS scabbardfish and I noticed an inaccuracy with the information on the page and tried to edit it but that portion of the page was un-editable. It has to do with the engines which were the Fairbanks-Morse 38 8-1/8 and not the GM mptors stated in the article. How I know this is that my father, now deceased, was on the original crew. His name was Herbert E. Schauer. He said the GM engines were terrible and the Fairbanks never gave out but the GM were breaking all the time. Please tell me how to edit this section. Best, -R. Schauer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Submariners son (talk • contribs) 15:41, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

• Note Information and links left at OP's talk page. Eagleash (talk) 16:41, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

After some brief research, I'm certain that the OP's dad was correct, so I changed the article and added a new reference. Basically, the infobox in USS Scabbardfish (SS-397) used a template for the propulsion system. Each Balao-class submarine had one of several similar propulsion systems, and Scabbardfish had the GE template but should have had the FM template. The references were part of the template, giving a false sense that the original editor had checked those references specifically for Scabbardfish. -Arch dude (talk) 18:20, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Why is there no page for Robert Cabal ?

Hi

Robert Cabal was a Mexican-American actor who was in "The man behind the Gun" with Randolph Scott and was on the TV show Rawhide. Why is there no page for this actor ? I dont know enough about him to create a page myself but if someone else, like a relative would like to start it with birthdate, birth place, deceased or alive etc. I would add to what little I know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.1.170.198 (talk) 17:34, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Because no one has written an article (not yust "page") about him ;-) Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:39, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

and any article about him, would need to refer to what reliable sources have reported, not what his relatives or you or I know about him. Theroadislong (talk) 18:10, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

He appears to be notable, so an article could be written. He was born in Hawaii in 1917, birth name was Harold Christopher Ching. You may add him at Wikipedia:Requested articles, but we are all volunteers and the request may never be honored. Alternatively, you may write it yourself. a Google search returns a LOT of info about him. See WP:YFA. -Arch dude (talk) 18:30, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Thoughts on Kerala Police Academy - TNT?

Hi. Kerala Police Academy is sourced only to the organisation's own website, is promotional, has clear WP:UPE / COI activity, and I am not sure there's a clean version to roll back to. Suggestions on a way forward other than AfD? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 20:16, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Oh, and on a related subject Kerala Police is being heavily edited at the moment by an editor who added a lot of unsourced content, which I reverted. He has reverted my revert, and is now adding references but they are seemingly random mentions of Kerala Police and being inserted just after instances of the name Kerala Police rather than at the end of statements that need references. It would be good to have someone else try to explain to them where they're going wrong. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 20:26, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Update

You have a Wikipedia page for actress, & my best friend, Nina Muschallik. Sadly she passed away on the 27th May in Hospital after a long battle with illness.

Please can you tell me how I can get her details updated?

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.40.141 (talk) 21:11, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

If you have a reliable source(I believe you, but we need something published for verification), and don't wish to edit yourself, you may make an edit request(click for instructions) on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 21:15, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

The Nina Muschallik article was deleted 7 years ago? Theroadislong (talk) 21:25, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps they're thinking of a different language version? No idea if this is the case. Just an idea. †dismas†|^(talk) 21:27, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Google shows entries in Wikidata (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1762201) and German Wikipedia (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Muschallik). --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 21:36, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Or maybe they're looking on Google, which doesn't display a death date. In which case, they need to contact Google directly. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:17, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Change Wikipedia Page Name

Hello there,

I work for Barbara Natterson Horowitz. She currently goes by B. N. Horowitz and I am updating her content and name across various sites but do not have admin rights on Wikipedia. Would it be possible for you to help me make this change? This is her page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Natterson-Horowitz.

Here is her work/faculty page at UCLA showing the B. N. Horowitz notation: https://people.healthsciences.ucla.edu/institution/personnel?personnel_id=8675

The update is also on her personal website: https://bnatterson-horowitz.com/

Thank you for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skwanucla (talk • contribs) 21:52, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

The sources cited in the article seem to use the full name rather than the initials. Wikipedia uses the name by which the suject is generally known, rather than the subject's own preference. David Biddulph (talk) 21:58, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Skwanucla ,I'll create a redirect from B. N. Horowitz Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:51, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Unburied

My band Unburied is a notable band. Metal Archives and metal encyclopedia will prove this since 1994 we have been on record labels across the globe. Can I add the band name to this site? Also when I wiki Unburied the band SiX Feet Under has an Alum called Unburied does this make it impossible for me to add my bands name since there abulm comes up when its searched on this site? Please send info!!!! My band deserves the credit to be on here! Matt Pike — Preceding unsigned comment added by HarleyMetalMatt (talk • contribs) 22:08, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

How do I add my band on here?

can someone tell me how to add my band on this site and is it free? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HarleyMetalMatt (talk • contribs) 22:11, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello HarleyMetalMatt. User-generated websites such as Metal Archives aren't reliable sources. It's best not to worry about getting your band here on Wikipedia, when you do become notable someone who isn't connected to the band will eventually write about you. – Thjarkur (talk) 22:18, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

How do you add your band on here? You don't. Wikipedia is not for promoting your band. As User:Thjarkur said, someone else will eventually do it if your band is notable enough. JIP | Talk 14:01, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Without prejudging your proposal, you might want to look at this. Wikipedia:No one cares about your garage band. Happy editing. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:07, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

@HarleyMetalMatt: our definition of notability for a band is fairly specific. If the band meets it, you should have an article. If not, then any attempt to add an article will end in frustration. See WP:NBAND. Pay careful attention to the nature of the required reference sources. -Arch dude (talk) 15:29, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Recognizing vandalism

How can I easily recognize vandalism from the Recent Changes page? Thanks. Nubo318 (talk) 22:14, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@Nubo318: Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for wanting to fight vandalism. There are some tips at WP:Vandalism for spotting and fixing vandalism. If you want more training on it, check out the Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism_Unit/Academy. RudolfRed (talk) 00:50, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Azur Lane

• Azur Lane (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

the wiki article about azur lane- A a Chinese based company, is a scam. The game is real, but much of the anime exploits underaged girls, shows them hypersexualized, pubescent, and extremely sexually revealing and sexually suggestive poses. Prepubescent girls with balloon breasts???

Who is regulating this content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.189.232.135 (talk) 22:32, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

If a subject is notable, we can write about it here. Wikipedia has no control over what the game itself publishes. – Thjarkur (talk) 22:43, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not censored. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:22, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

If there is criticism of the game that has been published in reliable sources, then you are free to add that to the article, with references. -Arch dude (talk) 01:23, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Please note that the term scam has a specific meaning in English. Your issues with the game have nothing to do with the concept of "scam". -Arch dude (talk) 01:30, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

This looks like the Chinese equivalent to Japan's KanColle. Eastern cultures have a much different view of sexuality and the body than the West does. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Hasteur Hasteur Ha-- oh....} 02:56, 25 September 2020 (UTC)