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January 14

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How to get the anti vandalism job. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WolfeReAds (talk • contribs) 01:37, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

WolfeReAds, please read Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit. Cullen328 (talk) 01:41, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Chef Jean Pierre

For being the authority of encyclopedia knowledge, you and your staff can be incredibly stupid when it comes to research. Jean Pierre, evidently a common name, has no reference to him owning a famous Florida restaurant for years, teaching cooking for fifty years, and being the most popular chef in America with NO, NONE, NON-EXISTENT article about the man, his background, his history - NOTHING! How idiotic is that? The reference page refers the reader to a French cartoon. What? Say what? So I give up on Wikopeedeah... yeah, I spelled it wrong on purpose. I'm withdrawing my annual funds, too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cinemabon (talk • contribs) 08:58, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

@Cinemabon: there are no staff here. Just volunteers who write all the articles. So if you notice that there is a gap where you think an article should be written, then you are welcome to write it - that is how every other article came to be here.--Gronk Oz (talk) 09:22, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Cinemabon would first have to specify which Jean-Pierre. A quick look at sources reveal at least this one, Jean-Pierre Leverrier, who used to run a restaurant on County Road, Palm Beach, and that one, Jean-Pierre Brehier, operating a cooking school in Fort Lauderdale. So there is at least two different Jean-Pierre chefs within a twenty kilometer radius with some minimal sourcing about both of them.

That being said, from my cursory search I believe the latter one might be notable. If someone wants to start a draft, I would be happy to assist. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 09:49, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Kudos, Tigraan. My searching failed to establish even his likely surname. Most of the relevant hits for "Chef Jean-Pierre" are of his YouTube videos, restaurant advertisements, and other promotional material clearly not independent of him, so not useable to establish his Notability in Wikipedia's terms, which, Cinemabon, is not the same as "fame" or "popularity". If you think this subject merits an article (and along with Tigraan, I think it's likely), then assist us by providing suitable sources (not necessarily on line) on which an article can be based. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.195.175.103 (talk) 10:05, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

@Cinemabon: Your assertion that this chap is "the most popular chef in America" is the last reason in the world that one would find a Wikipedia article on him. We can document the highest mountain, the deepest ocean, the tallest building, perhaps even the tallest or oldest person. As for "most popular chef in America," that's no more than what I said--your assertion. Uporządnicki (talk) 18:21, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Career Statistics box isn't showing in Grey for headings or totals for Cameron Devlin

I just added the Career Statistics for Devlin however it is all showing as white for some reason even though I took the code from the Football Wikiproject page. I can't see why the headings and totals though bold are not grey as well like the example? — NZFC^(talk)(cont) 09:03, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Must be a browser or monitor error as on my phone can see it properly with the grey boxes.— NZFC^(talk)(cont) 09:26, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

@NZFC: Have you tried purging the article within your browser? GoingBatty (talk) 20:26, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Who copied whom?

The background to this question is that I am doing a DYK check, and I ran the Copyvio tool against the article (Eberhard Zeidler). It found that large slabs of text were identical to two web sites: www.metalocus.es/en/news/ryerson-university-student-learning-centre-snohetta-zeidler and insideeko.com/eberhard-zeidler-death-german-canadian-architect-has-passed-away-aged-95/. The article author, Bloom6132, suspects that these sites copied the material from Wikipedia. Is there any way to verify that?--Gronk Oz (talk) 09:18, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

It is apparent that insideeko.com copied off Wikipedia. Their article is dated January 12, 2022 (which is after the timestamp of my edits in question). —Bloom6132 (talk) 09:23, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

 Doing... Hmm, the metalocus.es source requires some investigation. It is dated December 2015, and the Wayback Machine’s first snapshot is in March 2017). The Wikipedia article at the time (in 2015 or in 2017) does not contain any text similar to the current content... but then the WayBack machine’s snapshot has no paragraph about Zeidler either. I will check a bit the snapshots. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 10:00, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

I have tagged Talk:Eberhard Zeidler that the first source has copied from us. Tigraan if you determine the second source copied from us too, please can you add it to the Template:Backwards copy on that talkpage, so this article (hopefully) doesn't get flagged as a copyvio again? Joseph2302 (talk) 12:32, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Back from the investigation, I have no proof of the copyvio status either way. I am judging based on the paragraph Zeidler first joined an architectural firm with Blackwell and Craig in Peterborough, Ontario. He later relocated to Toronto.... That text was added on Wikipedia in Bloom6132’s January 9, 2022 edit, citing that source (dated January 7, 2022) (whose information was repackaged, so no copyvio on that side). On the other hand, the Wayback machine has a snapshot on May 2021 (the most recent one) that does not contain the text. The possibilities are therefore:

1. Bloom6132’s Jan 9 edit is legit, and metalocus did the copyvio somewhere between Jan 9 and today (Jan 14)
2. metalocus added the text at some point between May 2021 and Jan 2022, and Bloom6132 made a copyvio edit that contains another plausible source but not the copyvio source

Since Bloom6132 has assured us on the DYK nomination page that #2 is not what happened, I am going to go with possibility #1. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 13:37, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, Tigraan. It makes me feel so much better that I couldn't figure it out for myself. And most importantly - the DYK can proceed.--Gronk Oz (talk) 15:48, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

incorrect information

HI i have discovered a Wikipedia page about myself however some of the infoirmation is not correct. I have corrected it but the corrections do not appear. For example I did not develop an incontinence 'nappy' I developed washable incontinence knickers or panties. I also added several bits that were missing. I have for example old newspaper articles relating to this information but they are pre internet and do not appear. please advise how I go about rectifying these errors. Thanks and best wishes

Judith Balcazar — Preceding unsigned comment added by HFA1953 (talk • contribs) 11:44, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Judith. Please see WP:Autobiography#Problems in an article about you for how to proceed. You should not directly edit Wikipedia's article about you, but should rather suggest edits using the Edit request process. Silver seren partially reverted your edit because you introduced information which was not cited to a published source: verifiability is one of the pillars of Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 12:23, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Just to add - Pre-internet sources are fine. Just cite the publication information, such as the name of the newspaper, the title of the article, the date of publication, and the page number. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:10, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

In addition, some people may be able to track down the newspaper articles online, especially with the help of The Wikipedia Library. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 19:28, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Colorful recent changes

Hello! So due to phab:T290113 (which apparently only I experience), my recent changes filters occasionally remove the filters related to the faith of the user's edit. I recently added goodfaith=likelybad& back to the URL when it's gone. Upon doing so my recent changes page became very colorful and looked very different. Instead of having all my filters it just had the likely bad faith and very likely bad faith filters applied, and all of the entries on the page were highlighted in a reddish color, with orange dots next to the filters applied. ANyone know what caused this to happen? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:17, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

The removal of filters happens to me too, but no idea on the color thing. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 14:31, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Oh really? Well that's good to know that I"m not the only one. Could I add you to the phab case since you also experience it? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:32, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Edits I made did not seem to last a month

On 5 August 2021 - I made - as the History shows a change to Roger Hammer's biblio. at his request. I see the on 31 August 2021 - the word "reverted" appears in the history. Two questions are relevant here: 1) did I fail to do something reference-wise to make the change permanent and 2) how can I (or anyone) make a change to a person's bibliographic info without said person's OK? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BotanikmanUSA (talk • contribs) 14:24, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

@BotanikmanUSA: Anyone can edit any unprotected article with or without anyone's OK. You did fail to do things reference-wise; you actually removed all the sources (I assume that was accidental as you probably just rewrote the entire thing?), and you added more information without any citations. Please see the Verifiability, No original research, and Referencing for beginners policies for more info on that topic.

Also, please read the guidelines at WP:COI for how to handle writing on topics you may be personally connected to. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 14:35, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

2022 Pro Bowl

Can you please upload the 2022 Pro Bowl Logo please. 98.186.54.177 (talk) 14:34, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

This request is best made at Talk:2022 Pro Bowl. The best way to see something done is to do it yourself- see Files for upload. 331dot (talk) 15:23, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi there! If you make the request there, be sure to provide the URL of a website that contains the logo. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 20:37, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Dj cool Herc did not invent hiphop he was JUST a dj

He was just a dj while a major movement called locking had already begun on the west coast.. this is false uneducated information.. please change this Cool Herc Never rose to international fame he was JUST a dj. Not anything else — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.201.170 (talk) 14:47, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Please discuss any concerns with a specific article on its talk page. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources say, so if those sources are not being correctly summarized, please describe the specific errors. 331dot (talk) 15:21, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: DJ Kool Herc GoingBatty (talk) 20:38, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Help

Please please help me to restore the previous version of Jigjiga maps and images. Too intricated. Thanks 196.188.240.90 (talk) 18:15, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi there! Are you referring to the Jijiga article? You can click the "View history" tab and revert an edit (or series of edits) to restore a previous version. If you would like some assistance with this particular article, I suggest you post a more specific request on the article's talk page: Talk:Jijiga. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 20:41, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Help

Please, help me. I want to change my user name.--Edegouges.olymp (talk) 18:22, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

WP:UNC has the info you're looking for. DonIago (talk) 18:26, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

How do we add a Notable alumni to a High School page?

Looking to add a Graduate who played professional soccer to a High school site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:204:D101:AA90:4888:CF7:CA19:2A56 (talk) 19:55, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

The alumni first should have an article. If they do, you may simply edit the article's alumni section to add them. 331dot (talk) 20:08, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, if the person passes the criteria at WP:NFOOTY, I.e. has played in a fully professional league (see that page for more about whch leagues qualify), then an article can be created about them (if one does not already exist). Once an article exists, the name (linked to the article) can be added to the list of notable alumni. Eagleash (talk) 20:14, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Standard procedure for Talk Page vandalism?

Hi, I recently came across an obvious talk page vandalism, see Talk:Swami Vivekananda § Djdkdkdksskeoeoslslsosslfkkfkfkdkakd. C. C. C. C c d c. V d s f. F d x c x s. Xc d d c. F c d c d c d d x s. D z. D. D z. D a a s s a z z. S s a a a. A.. Should I leave it as it is for the bot to auto-archive it? Revert the edit manually (because undo won't work)? If I revert it, what is the appropriate notice/warning to be given to the user? Thanks! ---CX Zoom(^he/_him) (^{let's talk}|_contribs) 20:22, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

CX Zoom, just revert the nonsense with a very brief edit summary. Give a vandalism warning if you wish. Cullen328 (talk) 20:28, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

CX Zoom I reverted the edit manually and posted a warning for the editor. GoingBatty (talk) 20:59, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you again GoingBatty. Thanks Cullen328. ---CX Zoom(^he/_him) (^{let's talk}|_contribs) 00:03, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Please help with Did You Know

I was trying to submit a new page that I wrote to WP:DYK. Somehow a colon was inserted into the title of the page. I tried to correct it by moving pages but I'm not sure I did it right. The page is John Wayne Bobbitt Uncut. Thank you. Polycarpa aurata (talk) 22:39, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Polycarpa aurata, you seem to have fixed the problem by moving the page. TSventon (talk) 22:56, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Polycarpa aurata (talk) 23:16, 14 January 2022 (UTC)