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March 20[edit]

a lot of mistakes because there is an independentist organization in the north of chad. those close to the manipulative Chad regime. for example Toubou flags. there are several flags .

look web site Toubou governement in exil Enesu Tudaa-a, State of Tubu, Tubuland, دولة التُبو (tibesti-gov.info) Kalimiduna (talk) 00:03, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If there are problems with the article Toubou people, Kalimiduna, you're free to point them out at the foot of Talk:Toubou people. I suggest that you start by pointing out just one problem, providing a precise reference to a specific web page -- not some unspecified page somewhere within a website -- that authoritatively corrects the mistake. Once other editors have agreed that the article was wrong and your "correction" really was a correction, add comments on more problems, but never more than a few at one time. -- Hoary (talk) 08:59, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question about Recent Changes filters[edit]

What are the differences between the "Contributor quality predictions" and "User intent predictions" filters on the Recent Changes page? The little "How do these work?" help popup doesn't seem to say much about the differences. AP 499D25 (talk) 02:08, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@AP 499D25 There is a detailed explanation at this mediawiki URL. I reached that by clicking through the "learn more" option of the popup on the filter changes menu of Special:RecentChanges. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:07, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Michael D. Turnbull Thanks for the response, I did come across and see that help page before. I'm starting to get it now, I'm guessing "likely have problems" means a poor quality edit regardless if the edit is done in good faith or bad faith, while "bad-faith edits" means edits done with the intention of harming the encyclopedia. I just got confused between those two before. AP 499D25 (talk) 02:19, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism help request from Sparaig2[edit]

I have noticed some editorial screwups (by me) at Jyotir_Math. Namely, I tried to add the phrase "(disputed)" and signed it with "02:32, 20 March 2023 (UTC)" as per the old style, and that inserted into the text itself and now I can't figure out how to gracefully undo the damage. Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you, Sparaig2 (talk) 02:32, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted it to the previous version. I'd also suggest adding a citation to any claim that a figure is disputed, as that could be a contentious claim. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 06:55, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Max for table that also scales to viewport[edit]

How do I make a table scale to viewport if the viewport width is under the max width but only have width at the max width if the viewport exceeds the max width? Aaron Liu (talk) 13:44, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is this a question about Wikipedia? As far as I know, we don't have anything called a "viewport". ColinFine (talk) 19:11, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Aaron Liu (and @ColinFine for info): I suspect this refers to the apparent device viewport, or area the user sees an article's content in. (See https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Glossary/Viewport for a summary explanation.) Anything parts of a object (such as a table) which is too large to fit in the viewport will not be visible until the user scrolls or zooms (if either are allowed) in the appropriate direction.
The original question is not entirely clear, but I interpret it as asking how a table can be made bigger or smaller when it's too wide to fit inside a user's viewport. In a nutshell, one of the following can be done:
  • decrease the font size used in the table (but note MOS:FONTSIZE and, in particular, WP:ACCESSIBILITY);
  • remove content from the table;
  • remove unnecessary formatting, such as non-breaking spaces which prevent content from "flowing" inside table cells;
  • consider presenting the information in a different way; see MOS:TABLES.
Bazza (talk) 19:29, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

how do i download an audio file from wikipedia?[edit]

how do i download an audio file from wikipedia? Orange-wp (talk) 19:14, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Orange-wp Taking as example the one at Gettysburg Address, click the i in a circle, then the linked bolded bit in "This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons. Information from its description page there is shown below.", and on that page you'll see a download link. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:54, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for you kind help Orange-wp (talk) 22:07, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Help with moving articles[edit]

I'd like to ask someone to help me with the following:

I can move pages, but I don't know if the current Dom Aleixo (the disambiguation page) should be deleted first, in order to not mess up page history and I don't have deletion privileges.

The only place where this "Dom Aleixo Timorese" comes up is Wikipedia. Every literature about him gives his name as "Dom Aleixo" without "Timorese" in it, that would be like addressing Biden as "Joe Biden American". Bastewasket (talk) 20:06, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:RMPM for instructions. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:01, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reliability of Mental Floss[edit]

My edit of Cher was reverted with the claim that Mental Floss is not a reliable source. Is this claim correct? Clarityfiend (talk) 20:57, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Clarityfiend the only discussion at WP:RSN is here which concluded "Mental Floss is a listicle website/youtube channel, and it should never be cited for anything." - Arjayay (talk) 21:12, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Updating name of company on company Wikipedia page[edit]

Hi there. Our company has recently been renamed from "Cumming Corporation" to "Cumming Group". I'm not seeing an "Edit > Move" option when on the Wikipedia page. How can I update this? Cumming Corporation Czanutto (talk) 20:59, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Czanutto - the reason there is no "Edit > Move" option is that your account is not WP:Autoconfirmed - more worrying is that, from your statement "our company" you have a clear WP:Conflict of interest and, I assume, you are also a WP:Paid editor, please read those sections, make the necessary declarations and do not edit the article again, but make proposals, supported by WP:Reliable sources on the article's talk page. Thank you. - Arjayay (talk) 21:21, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Czanutto. The History section should have a sentence added to describe the name change – when, why. (With a supporting reference.) Currently it's confusing to the reader to see "Cumming Corporation" in some places and "Cumming Group" in others. A first-party source would be acceptable for an uncontroversial claim, but Cumming's official site appears to be heavy on fluff and light on history, and I couldn't find a press release or media coverage on a quick search. Once the article's narrative is fixed, there would be plenty of confirmed editors willing to make the move. ⁓ Pelagicmessages ) 17:58, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category not working[edit]

Hi. I added the category Category:Assassinated American federal politicians to the page Robert F. Kennedy but the latter is not showing in the list of pages in the category. Help. Thinker78 (talk) 22:28, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes things take a little while to update. I see it on that Category page under "K". See Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization#Why_might_a_category_list_not_be_up_to_date? for more info. RudolfRed (talk) 22:52, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Thinker78: fixing ping. RudolfRed (talk) 22:53, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How to add a subject page to wikipedia.[edit]

 – Splitting sections. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:45, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've been a member of wikipedia for about 20 years, and I've made a multitude of changes and additions over the years -- under my other user account name. But when I tried to log in this time, I was unable to remember my password, and because I had not provided an email address when I opened my account, I wasn't able to get help when I was trying to log in. Consequently, I've now opened a new account. Makes me very sad that I've lost the history of my voluminous contributions.

In any case, what I want to do now is add a subject page about the short film, "Cradle Song" (1981), written, produced, and directed by Sharron Miller. Can you please tell me how to do this?? It's been decades since I have added a new page. Please help if you can. Thank you. Vistalane (talk) 22:36, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vistalane. If you would like to create an new article about a film, you will need to demonstrate that the film meets WP:NFILM. Generally, you will need to show that the film has received WP:SIGCOV in WP:RELIABLESOURCES to establish that it's WP:NOTABLE for an article to be written about it. You might want to ask about the film at WT:FILM if you have any specific question about Wikipedia notability and films. As for your question about accounts, there's no way to merge account contribution histories together per WP:DELETEACCOUNT; if, however, you remember the other accounts you used, you can add links to them to your "new" user page to unofficially connect the accounts together if you want. You can either add the link manually or use a userbox to do so (e.g. Wikipedia:Userboxes/Wikipedia/Related accounts. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:07, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Marchjuly. I will do my best to do as you suggest, and I very much appreciate your help. -- Vistalane Vistalane (talk) 23:58, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]