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- Correction to the headline of Hamdan v. Rumsfeld: the word illegal is not really appropriate in this context. The word unconstitutional is more appropriate as the special tribunals violated the constitutional separation of powers - not any law. The Geneva convention problems here are areally secondary to the decision.
- Correct me if I am wrong, but did the ruling not state that the tribunals are illegal under both US law and international law (the Geneva Convention)? This was not a case about constitutionality; it was simply the Supreme Court looking at whether the sitation conformed to existing US and international law. As such, I think the current wording is fine. Batmanand | Talk 23:33, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- I had originally used the word unconstiutional, before I pressed save, since my non-American understanding is that the Supreme Court rules only the constitutionality of a given law/thing/action. (I could be wrong.) But in any case, the judgement says, on p. 62, that "...the rules specified for Hamdan’s trial are illegal" (and almost the same quote appears in the Syllabus on p. 5). -Splash - tk 00:13, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
- The United States Supreme Court rules in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld a that the U.S. Administration has no authority to try detained prisoners held in Guantanamo Bay by military tribunal, and rules that the proceedings violate the Geneva Convention. (BBC)
- The current Dutch cabinet of prime minister Balkenende has resigned following a criticism of the handling by minister Rita Verdonk of former MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali's citizenship.
- posted based on modified earlier wording. Feel free to edit, but I think the main points are covered The Tom 19:58, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- With the FIFA World Cup 2006 Quarter Finals on the horizon, we come here with analysis of the cup until now and predictions for the coming days.
- Almost three weeks after their disappearance, the bodies of Nathalie Mahy and Stacy Lemmens are found in Liège (Belgium), while prime suspect Abdallah Ait-Oud remains in custody. 1652186 18:42, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- It's pretty much all over the news in Europe. Intangible 18:57, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- The Republic of Montenegro is accepted as the 192nd member of the United Nations.
- Posting. --Golbez 22:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
The Israeli Army conducts a limited operation in an effort to rescue the abducted Cpl. Gilad Shalit in Gaza. Nrbelex (talk) 00:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- Israel commences an invasion of the Gaza Strip due to the capture of Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit.
- That image of Shalit is not usable. I've hunted around for a substantially-updated article and found nothing so far. If someone can point me to a decent article on this military action, then it's certainly postable. That said, the wording The Israeli Army conducts a limited operation in an effort to rescue the abducted Cpl. Gilad Shalit in Gaza. reads far too much like an IDF press release. IMO, "limited" military operations expressly aimed at "rescuing hostages" involve helicopters and commandoes, not multiple tank battalions. The Tom 02:04, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- I was using the NY Times wording but I see your point and I agree that the article needs to be greatly improved but this is major news and has a banner headline at the NYT site and is CNN's lead story. Nrbelex (talk) 02:13, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- Newsworthiness is irrelevant if there is no accompanying article. The Tom 03:52, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- I was using the NY Times wording but I see your point and I agree that the article needs to be greatly improved but this is major news and has a banner headline at the NYT site and is CNN's lead story. Nrbelex (talk) 02:13, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- That image of Shalit is not usable. I've hunted around for a substantially-updated article and found nothing so far. If someone can point me to a decent article on this military action, then it's certainly postable. That said, the wording The Israeli Army conducts a limited operation in an effort to rescue the abducted Cpl. Gilad Shalit in Gaza. reads far too much like an IDF press release. IMO, "limited" military operations expressly aimed at "rescuing hostages" involve helicopters and commandoes, not multiple tank battalions. The Tom 02:04, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- Armenian President Robert Kocharian (pictured left) and Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev (pictured right) agree to allow the residents of Nagorno-Karabakh to decide the region's future status through a popular vote. -- Clevelander 23:21, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, all of the news outlets reporting this so far are Armenian, to a man. I'd like to see a "neutral" source report this, to filter out any inherent POV that may be leaking into the articles, to make sure we have the right story. --Golbez 00:49, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- From a non-Armenian source: http://www.regnum.ru/english/663390.html -- Clevelander 00:59, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- REGNUM seems to have a lot of coverage on it, so posting. --Golbez 01:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- From a non-Armenian source: http://www.regnum.ru/english/663390.html -- Clevelander 00:59, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, all of the news outlets reporting this so far are Armenian, to a man. I'd like to see a "neutral" source report this, to filter out any inherent POV that may be leaking into the articles, to make sure we have the right story. --Golbez 00:49, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- Nguyễn Minh Triết is elected the new President of Vietnam, succeeding the retiring Trần Đức Lương. [Expected later today: Nguyễn Tấn Dũng as the new Prime Minister, succeeding Phan Văn Khải.] -- 199.71.174.100 08:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- I say we wait until the 'real' post is picked. But yes, this belongs on ITN. --Golbez 08:18, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- The United States Supreme Court agrees to hear whether the United States Environmental Protection Agency must regulate carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas pollutant in Massachusetts v. Environmental Protection Agency.
- Can I suggest that we wait for the verdict? Batmanand | Talk 19:27, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Italians refuse modification in constitution with referendum."no" beats "yes" aprox. 61% to 38%, thus keeping the text unchanged.The Northern league had announced retirement from the centre-right opposition coalition if reform was defeated. MEP Francesco Speroni(northern league)says "italians suck". Votes of italians living abroad still to be counted. [1] this could have been a big change in italian's constitution, i guess it could be worth of the main page.
- The death penalty is abolished in the Philippines. There is no article on Capital punishment in the Philippines yet, but there probably should be.
- If someone could write that article, it would indeed be an excellent ITN link. Except, well... :) The Tom 05:00, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Started an article - could use more historical info - but the current event is covered.--Peta 06:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Good enough for me. I've posted it.--Pharos 07:03, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Started an article - could use more historical info - but the current event is covered.--Peta 06:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- If someone could write that article, it would indeed be an excellent ITN link. Except, well... :) The Tom 05:00, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
![Marí Alkatiri](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Mari_Bin_Amude_Alkatiri_2002.jpg/100px-Mari_Bin_Amude_Alkatiri_2002.jpg)
- Marí Alkatiri (pictured) resigns as Prime Minister of East Timor amids weeks of political unrest. (joining José Ramos Horta.) --199.71.174.100 04:49, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- postedThe Tom 04:54, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you for the very quick response, The Tom. -- 199.71.174.100 04:56, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Add link to Foreign minister. --SparqMan 17:27, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- postedThe Tom 04:54, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Arcelor declares its merger with Mittal Steel. The new company will be called Arcelor-Mittal. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 05:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- OK, posted.--Pharos 06:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Denice Denton, the controversial ninth chancellor of the University of California, Santa Cruz, commits suicide by jumping off the roof of the residential high-rise in San Francisco where her partner lives.[2]
- Tragic and interesting, but I don't think this fulfills our requirements for posting a death. --Golbez 03:25, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Norman Mineta announces his resignation as United States Secretary of Transportation effective from July 17, 2006. [3] Capitalistroadster 16:09, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Valiant Shield, the largest U.S. military exercise since the Vietnam War, is allowing Chinese military observers to participate for the first time in United States Naval history? - relisting since there have been no objections and yet it has not been chosen. The exercise ends tomorrow. Johntex\talk 17:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- I really question whether this is a story of international importance or interest, in the spirit of the ITN guidelines. It doesn't seem to be listed on the BBC (International template) at all, not only on the headlines page but also on the specific Americas and Asia-Pacific sub-sections. I can't find it on CNN or Reuters either. It seems like this 'international importance' criterion really is very inconsistently invoked, to be frank. Badgerpatrol 03:49, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Just being a mirror of the international press is not a part of the ITN guidelines. I can't see how these huge wargames in the Pacific are objectively not of international importance; not only is this something of a landmark in Sino-American relations, it also occurs in the context of heightened North Korean tension with the US and Japan. Perhaps the press is just not as interested in military affairs not involving actual conflict, but this has been on CNN at least.--Pharos 15:21, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Well, a cynic might question exactly why the Chinese observers were invited and thus to what extent this really represents a landmark in Sino-American relations. It isn't Nixon in China. The only objective metric of a story's international importance is the amount of attention paid to it by international news organisations (emphatically NOT the same as Wikipedia being a mirror of international press)- this particular item aroused virtually no interest at all, so far as I can tell. Too many of these items are slipping into ITN; we either need to change the rules for inclusion, or start sticking to them consistently. Currently the criteria are much too nebulous and are applied much too arbitrarily. The more I think about it, the more I think ITN is in need of a serious overhaul. Badgerpatrol 18:12, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Just being a mirror of the international press is not a part of the ITN guidelines. I can't see how these huge wargames in the Pacific are objectively not of international importance; not only is this something of a landmark in Sino-American relations, it also occurs in the context of heightened North Korean tension with the US and Japan. Perhaps the press is just not as interested in military affairs not involving actual conflict, but this has been on CNN at least.--Pharos 15:21, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- President George W. Bush has issued an executive order stating that he will limit taking of private property by the federal government and that it must "benefit... the general public...and not merely for the purpose of economic interest of private properties..." (White House Press Release)
- Not huge news; the feds have never, so far as I know, been accused of using eminent domain in the egregious fashion that New London, et.al. have. --Golbez 23:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- At the FIFA World Cup, Brazilian striker Ronaldo equals Gerd Müller of Germany's all-time World Cup scoring record, with a brace against Japan taking his tally to 14. Badgerpatrol 02:11, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- United States Senator Rick Santorum reveals a document from the NGIC declassifying that approximately 500 chemical weapons have been found in Iraq since 2003, and saying that more weapons of mass destruction are likely to be uncovered. AFP FOX NewsSantorum Press Release
- I'm not sure that is entirely true... Batmanand | Talk 09:46, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- There, I've updated this story with the appropriate links to the document and the Senator who declassified the intelligence. Now get over your bias that Bush lied to go into Iraq and publish this MAJOR news story! Rapierian | Talk 2:35,22 June 2006 (EST)
- Minor edit, including link to Santorum's press release Rapierian | Talk 2:38,22 June 2006 (EST)
- I do not have an anti-Bush bias, but I think it would be fair to mention two things. One is that all the weapons found are thought to be pre-1991 production WMD. The second is that none of them would have been capable of being used as battlefield weapons. But if others think this is a "MAJOR" news story, go ahead and post it. Batmanand | Talk 20:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- I don't see it as being a major story. --Golbez 21:45, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- I think this is very big news. - Johntex\talk 02:36, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- It will be big news if/when the verifiable sources include more than a press release. -Fsotrain09 02:54, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Here's an official statement from Rumsfeld [4] verifying the document. Is that official enough for you when the original document linked off a U.S. Senator's webpage wasn't, or is the NYT the only official source you'll trust? And yes, I realize that these aren't the primary WMDs we listed as one of our reasons for going to war (although they do qualify as part of the cache that was supposed to have been destroyed and we claimed wasn't), and that the mustard gas filled canisters are likely not useable anymore (although the Sarin canisters still probably are). This is still a major major story!Rapierian | Talk 9:20,23 June 2006 (EST)
- It will be big news if/when the verifiable sources include more than a press release. -Fsotrain09 02:54, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Thumbs-down here. The Tom 04:30, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- I do not have an anti-Bush bias, but I think it would be fair to mention two things. One is that all the weapons found are thought to be pre-1991 production WMD. The second is that none of them would have been capable of being used as battlefield weapons. But if others think this is a "MAJOR" news story, go ahead and post it. Batmanand | Talk 20:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- After 16 years in office, Angelo Cardinal Sodano retires as Cardinal Secretary of State, often referred as "prime minister" of the Holy See. He will be succeeded by Tarcisio Cardinal Bertone, until now Archbishop of Genoa.
- After many years of trying, Israel's Magen David Adom and the Palestinians' Red Crescent are allowed entry into the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement, at a conference in Geneva. BBC News. Batmanand | Talk 09:01, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Announcement by the International Olympic Committee of the shortlist of candidates for the 2014 Winter Olympics. At 13:00, Lausanne time, 11:00 UTC. Hektor 11:38, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Could be good to put up when announced. --Golbez 15:36, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Jacques Rogge, President of the IOC, announces that three candidate cities : Sochi, Salzburg and PyeongChang will compete for the honor to organize the 2014 Winter Olympics. Hektor 11:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Posting. Thanks. --Golbez 21:45, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Jacques Rogge, President of the IOC, announces that three candidate cities : Sochi, Salzburg and PyeongChang will compete for the honor to organize the 2014 Winter Olympics. Hektor 11:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
American Airlines flight 1740 Was an MD-80 operated by American Airlines when it was forced to make an emergency landing in Chicago, when the front landing gear failed to extend. It landed with the nose scraping the tarmac, sending a shower of sparks behind it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jam01 (talk • contribs) 22:41, 2006 June 20
- The article is paltry and probably would not survive an AfD; no international significance. --Golbez 07:11, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Private first class, Kristian Menchaca, 23, of Houston Texas, and Private first class Thomas Lowell Tucker, (shown) 25, of Madras, Oregon were found dead after being kidnapped 16 June 2006. The tortured men were found booby trapped with IEDs. The new leader of al-Qaida claimed to have killed them personally.-Dark jedi requiem 22:43, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Please review the submission guidelines. The Tom 00:37, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- It is on the current event page, he corresponding article has been updated, it is of international importance and it is seen as a big set back to the war in Iraq since the death of Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi (of which al-Qaida swore revenge. Articles have been created to take in to consideration the deaths. It has a short headline, and has a useable image.
- It is ALL over the news and on the top of the news on Yahoo and MSN. It's not the average story of a roadside bomb death but rather two soldiers that were tortured personally by the new head of al-Qaida since Al-Zarqawi was killed. Plus it would be a nice change of pace from all the sports stories.Dark jedi requiem 06:29, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Valiant_Shield_-_US_Kitty_Hawk_kicks_off_operations.jpg/220px-Valiant_Shield_-_US_Kitty_Hawk_kicks_off_operations.jpg)
- This is still essentially a human interest story, not something of broader military significance. Yes, it is big in the news cycle, but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a news source.--Pharos 20:01, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- For the first time in United States Naval history, observers from China have been invited to participate in a US naval opperation, Valiant Shield, the largest war game since the Vietnam War. - Johntex\talk 21:21, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Is the topic article updated? -Fsotrain09 21:24, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yes - it is a brand new article. Also, see the PD photo of the aircraft carrier available to illustrate the item. Johntex\talk 22:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Did you even look, Fsotrain? --Golbez 23:00, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- This entry is good to use, if I am reading the guidelines correctly. I am hesitant to add it myself since it is a partial self-nom. Please note that this exercise continues through 23 June 2006. Johntex\talk 02:05, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- ...and additional PD images are available here and on commons. Johntex\talk 02:07, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
![Stanley Cup](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/31/Hhof_stanley_cup.jpg/100px-Hhof_stanley_cup.jpg)
- When we get tired of the pretty painting, please consider using Image:Hhof stanley cup.jpg (pictured right) on ITN. -- 64.229.5.220 17:30, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- The Portrait of Adele Bloch-Bauer, a painting by Austrian painter Gustav Klimt is sold to New York's Neue Galerie for $135m, making it the most expensive work of art ever sold. BBC News. Batmanand | Talk 14:50, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- Posted. We've a remarkably diverse ITN page today, and this one comes complete with a PD image. -Splash - tk 15:34, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- Catalonia votes to adopt a new Statute of Autonomy, including a provision defining Catalonia as a nation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Montrealais (talk • contribs)
- Posted. --Aude (talk | contribs) 00:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- Maoists rebels have agreed to join the Nepalese government in a meeting between Prachanda, leader of the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist), and Prime Minister Girija Prasad Koirala in Kathmandu. (IHT)
- I've posted a version of this.--Pharos 01:03, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
"The Islamic Courts Union of Somalia captures the town of Jowhar from the secular militias who had taken it after their loss of Mogadishu to the Islamic Courts Union."
The warlords held Jowhar [5] long before they lost Mogadishu. Suggeste reword to:
"The Islamic Courts Union of Somalia captures the town of Jowhar from the secular militias who had retreated there after their loss of Mogadishu to the Islamic Courts Union." AndrewRT 155.202.254.82 11:19, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Microsoft announces that Bill Gates will transistion out of his day-to-day work at Microsoft. He has stepped down as Chief Software architect, effective immediately. [6] -- Morphix 22:40, 15 June 2006 (UTC).
- Someone please change the top pic to Image:Nwhi - French Frigate Shoals reef - many fish.jpg. I'm c-yploading it now, but I can't complete it as I'm in a rush. Thanks.--Pharos 22:26, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
- Never mind, I got around to it.--Pharos 03:39, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- Abu Bakar Bashir released from jail in Jakarta, Indonesia after being jailed for his role in the 2002 Bali bombing. Sydney Morning Herald
- Posted. -Splash - tk 16:52, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
- The South Central Farm in Los Angeles, California, reportedly the largest urban farm in the United States, is raided by the LAPD, with assistance from the Los Angeles Fire Department. [7] [8] [9]
- I don't see this having any international significance whatsoever. As always, I could be wrong. If anyone puts it up, they should add some context so the LAPD doesn't look like Satan incarnate. --
Golbez 06:29, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
- I think that a simple statement of facts should suffice. They raided the farm; there's no hint to good or bad there. FBI goes on "drug raids" all the time, with little connotation either way. We had a bit about Canadians and a counter-terrorism raid awhile ago, too. We could change that word maybe? We could try to work "eviction" into there, but that doesn't really cover it, or the actions taken.
Canæn
06:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, "drug raid" does give context. "raid" does not. Perhaps if it said "LAPD evict squatters" or perhaps "trespassers". And the Toronto terrorism thing was a bit more major than Darryl Hannah in a tree. --Golbez 07:01, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
- Well, I find both "Tresspassers" and "squatters" to be extremely bias. It takes a stand on the situation. The law is not always a neutral body. We must not take a stance, simply give information. I wasn't trying to say anything about the torronto terrorism thing; simply trying to give context for the word. Would "LAPD evicts occupants" be better? Personally, I think it's fine to say they raided the place. Farmers are still there, afterall.
Canæn
05:10, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- However it's phrased, it still doesn't seem very much like an international story. We should definitely have a note about it on Current events in the United States, though.--Pharos 05:22, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- Well, I find both "Tresspassers" and "squatters" to be extremely bias. It takes a stand on the situation. The law is not always a neutral body. We must not take a stance, simply give information. I wasn't trying to say anything about the torronto terrorism thing; simply trying to give context for the word. Would "LAPD evicts occupants" be better? Personally, I think it's fine to say they raided the place. Farmers are still there, afterall.
- Actually, "drug raid" does give context. "raid" does not. Perhaps if it said "LAPD evict squatters" or perhaps "trespassers". And the Toronto terrorism thing was a bit more major than Darryl Hannah in a tree. --Golbez 07:01, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
- I think that a simple statement of facts should suffice. They raided the farm; there's no hint to good or bad there. FBI goes on "drug raids" all the time, with little connotation either way. We had a bit about Canadians and a counter-terrorism raid awhile ago, too. We could change that word maybe? We could try to work "eviction" into there, but that doesn't really cover it, or the actions taken.
![Flag of Albania](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Flag_of_Albania.svg/100px-Flag_of_Albania.svg.png)
- Albania officially signed a Stabilisation and Association Agreement with the EU today, thus completing the first major step towards joining the bloc.
The agreement was signed at 12:40pm CET during an EC summit in Luxembourg between the Albanian Prime Minister Sali Berisha, Austrian Foreign Minister Ursula Plassnik, and the rest of the EU member states' Foreign Ministers. VOA
- Albania signs a Stabilisation and Association Agreement, a first step toward joining the European Union. (revised blurb)--Pharos 19:04, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- Asafa Powell of Jamaica equals his own world record for the 100m sprint at Gateshead. Powell ran it in 9.77 seconds at a legal windpeed of +1.5. This increases the fastest ever result in Britain by 0.12s.
- Tying his own record is not news. Breaking his record is news. --Golbez 20:33, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- OK. How about: Asafa Powell of Jamaica equals his own world record for the 100m sprint at Gateshead Stadium, a supposedly impossible feat, as the stadium is thought to be too far north and too cold. Powell ran it in 9.77 seconds at a legal windpeed of +1.5. This record is shared by American sprinter Justin Gatlin. This increases the fastest ever result in Britain by 0.12s. -- Macphisto12 (original submitter). 22:30, 11 June 2006.
- Kind of a verbose and specific update. --Golbez 21:58, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- OK. How about: Asafa Powell of Jamaica equals his own world record for the 100m sprint at Gateshead Stadium, a supposedly impossible feat, as the stadium is thought to be too far north and too cold. Powell ran it in 9.77 seconds at a legal windpeed of +1.5. This record is shared by American sprinter Justin Gatlin. This increases the fastest ever result in Britain by 0.12s. -- Macphisto12 (original submitter). 22:30, 11 June 2006.
- Tying his own record is not news. Breaking his record is news. --Golbez 20:33, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- Scientists in Greece announce to have revealed more than 1000 previously hidden ancient Greek letters on the Antikythera mechanism, thought to be one of the world's first known analog computers.
- ITN already contains an item on the Antikythera mechanism. Are you asking that the statement be rephrased? AmiDaniel (talk) 07:13, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- I dont think they announced they now think it is a computer.Possibly when asked about the significance of the revealed characters, they hinted at ascertaining the function of the Antikythera mechanism. The theory of the device being a computer is definitely not a new one, something which the main page statement somehow implies.So yes, the title is misleading at the main page, and i think it should be rephrased.
- Okay, well how about merging the two together? I'm thinking something along the lines of: "Scientists in Greece discover 1,000 previously hidden letters on the 2,000-year-old Antikythera mechanism (pictured), confirming that it is indeed an astronomical calculator." AmiDaniel (talk) 07:40, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- I like your idea of merging, but the problem is the newly-revealed letters haven't learned us yet anything. Nevertheless, your title is much better compared to the original one or what i wrote at the top. Maybe something like "Scientists in Greece discover previously hidden letters on the 2,000-year-old Antikythera mechanism (pictured), possibly the world's first analog computer."
- Alright, let's try this: "Scientists in Greece discover many previously hidden letters on the 2,000-year-old Antikythera mechanism (pictured), possibly the world's first analog computer, which may shed new light concerning the purpose of the machine." AmiDaniel (talk) 08:33, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- I erased the "1000" only to make the title sound more mysterious (it's a virtual newspaper after all and we want to "sell")..:) But i'm nitpicking. "Scientists in Greece discover previously hidden letters on the 2,000-year-old Antikythera mechanism (pictured), possibly the world's first analog computer, hoping to shed new light concerning the purpose of the machine.". But I trust your judgment, pick whatever you prefer. By the way, that ITN article you mentioned, any links?Couldn't find it.
- Okay, I had to draw the line somewhere: "Scientists in Greece discover previously hidden letters on the 2,000-year-old Antikythera mechanism (pictured), possibly the world's first analog computer, which may shed new light concerning the purpose of the machine." I actually wouldn't be shocked if after this lengthy conversation it gets rephrased yet again, but I think this will work for now. WP:ITN is the In the News section of the main page, which I just updated to reflect this discussion here. AmiDaniel (talk) 09:25, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, I trimmed it down to ""Scientists in Greece discover previously hidden letters on the 2,000-year-old Antikythera mechanism (pictured), possibly the world's first analog computer" because the other phrasing was just too long. AmiDaniel (talk) 09:28, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- Much better! Compare it with the 5th line.;) About that...ITN article,oops!
- Actually, I trimmed it down to ""Scientists in Greece discover previously hidden letters on the 2,000-year-old Antikythera mechanism (pictured), possibly the world's first analog computer" because the other phrasing was just too long. AmiDaniel (talk) 09:28, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, I had to draw the line somewhere: "Scientists in Greece discover previously hidden letters on the 2,000-year-old Antikythera mechanism (pictured), possibly the world's first analog computer, which may shed new light concerning the purpose of the machine." I actually wouldn't be shocked if after this lengthy conversation it gets rephrased yet again, but I think this will work for now. WP:ITN is the In the News section of the main page, which I just updated to reflect this discussion here. AmiDaniel (talk) 09:25, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- I erased the "1000" only to make the title sound more mysterious (it's a virtual newspaper after all and we want to "sell")..:) But i'm nitpicking. "Scientists in Greece discover previously hidden letters on the 2,000-year-old Antikythera mechanism (pictured), possibly the world's first analog computer, hoping to shed new light concerning the purpose of the machine.". But I trust your judgment, pick whatever you prefer. By the way, that ITN article you mentioned, any links?Couldn't find it.
- Alright, let's try this: "Scientists in Greece discover many previously hidden letters on the 2,000-year-old Antikythera mechanism (pictured), possibly the world's first analog computer, which may shed new light concerning the purpose of the machine." AmiDaniel (talk) 08:33, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- I like your idea of merging, but the problem is the newly-revealed letters haven't learned us yet anything. Nevertheless, your title is much better compared to the original one or what i wrote at the top. Maybe something like "Scientists in Greece discover previously hidden letters on the 2,000-year-old Antikythera mechanism (pictured), possibly the world's first analog computer."
- Okay, well how about merging the two together? I'm thinking something along the lines of: "Scientists in Greece discover 1,000 previously hidden letters on the 2,000-year-old Antikythera mechanism (pictured), confirming that it is indeed an astronomical calculator." AmiDaniel (talk) 07:40, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- I dont think they announced they now think it is a computer.Possibly when asked about the significance of the revealed characters, they hinted at ascertaining the function of the Antikythera mechanism. The theory of the device being a computer is definitely not a new one, something which the main page statement somehow implies.So yes, the title is misleading at the main page, and i think it should be rephrased.
- ITN already contains an item on the Antikythera mechanism. Are you asking that the statement be rephrased? AmiDaniel (talk) 07:13, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- Justine Henin-Hardenne defeats Svetlana Kuznetsova to win the Women's Singles title at the 2006 French Open. -- 64.229.207.10 13:41, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- Three prisoners commit suicide at Guantanamo Bay detainment camp. (New Zealand Herald), (CNN) & (Reuters) Nil Einne 04:33, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- The update is quite minor. --Golbez 05:14, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not proposing it be updated. I'm proposing it be included in the main page, in accordance to the intentions of this page. It is currently not featured on the main page... Nil Einne 05:17, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- ITN is not used as a news ticker, it's to bring contributors to articles which are being updated to reflect breaking news. This may be appropriate for WikiNews' main page, but I'm not sure it's appropriate for Wikipedia's. AmiDaniel (talk) 05:19, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yes and the Guantanamo Bay article is being updated accordingling. The fact that this update is being included in the introduction for the Guantanamo Bay article indicates that this is quite significant news for the Guantanamo Bay article. The fact that there are various controversial aspects surrounding this such as the suggestion that these suicides were an act of warfare further suggests that this is a significant bit of news which will likely result in significant changes to the Guantanamo Bay article. Note that these are the first suicides in Guantanamo Bay. I think this is already enough to establish that this is going to result in significant changes to the Guantanamo Bay article. The only remaining issue is whether this fulfills the other ITN guidelines. IMHO, it does because it is quite a significant issue viz a viz the controversy surrounding Guantanamo Bay. The deaths seem to fulfill the criteria surrounding deaths. Also, just to clarify, my earlier comments about not proposing may have been confusing to you. My meaning was that I was NOT proposing the listing in the current events be updated. Since my proposal was different from the listing in the current events (at that time) I assumed the person had misunderstood and assumed I was proposing the listing in current events be modified. I have since modified it by myself. Nil Einne 05:27, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- ITN is not used as a news ticker, it's to bring contributors to articles which are being updated to reflect breaking news. This may be appropriate for WikiNews' main page, but I'm not sure it's appropriate for Wikipedia's. AmiDaniel (talk) 05:19, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not proposing it be updated. I'm proposing it be included in the main page, in accordance to the intentions of this page. It is currently not featured on the main page... Nil Einne 05:17, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- The update is quite minor. --Golbez 05:14, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- 2006 FIFA World Cup has begun. --Tone 16:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- Posting. --Golbez 16:25, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- Can we put the WC logo on the main page or does it have to be gfdl or pd? --Tone 16:35, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- It has to be a free image, and FIFA is jealously protective of their logos. --Golbez 17:03, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- Can we put the WC logo on the main page or does it have to be gfdl or pd? --Tone 16:35, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- Besides, shall we have a separate news section for the WC as we had for the Olympics? --Tone 16:43, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know. --Golbez 17:03, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- Posting. --Golbez 16:25, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- Gardasil is approved by the FDA as a vaccine to treat or cure the Human papillomavirus (HPV) a leading cause of cervical cancer and anal cancer. - Davodd 02:09, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- I second the nom. -Fsotrain09 02:45, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- Tim Selwyn is the first New Zealander found guilty of sedition in over seventy-five years. --Midnighttonight 07:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- Tariff of "baby-rapist" Alan Webster increased to 16 years. Mdanziger 13:55, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- Former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir bin Mohamad declares his successor, Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, betrayed his trust — Mahathir's strongest criticism of Abdullah's administration yet. Johnleemk | Talk 04:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- This needs to be reworded, IMO, but this is how it is on current events as things stand. The wording doesn't reflect how controversial this is in Malaysia, as Mahathir wields considerable influence despite not holding any official positions. This also has to be placed in context of Mahathir's increasingly strident criticisms of Abdullah. Johnleemk | Talk 04:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- Halldór Ásgrímsson (pictured) resigns as Prime Minister of Iceland, and is succeeded by Geir Haarde.--Pharos 03:56, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- A Toronto terrorist suspect is alleged to have planned the assassination of Prime Minister of Canada Stephen Harper. (this update would bump off the current blurb on the topic)--Pharos 03:56, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- Stephen Hawking announces that he has been awarded the 2006 Copley Medal By the Royal Society.
- I prefer article updates to be more than a "and in 2006, this chap won". --Golbez 01:11, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- British University Lecturers end their strike, which had involved not marking exams and thesises.[news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/5052730.stm]
- 6/6/6; June 6, 2006; Christian citizens and politicians the world over look to the day's events as signals of the end of the world. Pregnant mothers are requesting that doctors induce or delay their children's births in order to avoid being born on 666, the day of the AntiChrist. --Mrcolj 13:08, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- What/where is the bolded link to a relevant, updated article on this topic? -Fsotrain09 19:17, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- There isn't one, not worth our time and effort. --Golbez 20:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- Let's not be so hasty. The end of the world could be an encyclopedically notable event; I would suggest waiting though, until the Antichrist appointee is officially sworn in (unto Satan).--Pharos 23:04, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- LOL, Pharos. :-D -- 199.71.174.100 07:55, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- Let's not be so hasty. The end of the world could be an encyclopedically notable event; I would suggest waiting though, until the Antichrist appointee is officially sworn in (unto Satan).--Pharos 23:04, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- There isn't one, not worth our time and effort. --Golbez 20:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- What/where is the bolded link to a relevant, updated article on this topic? -Fsotrain09 19:17, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- The trial of Tim Selwyn forsedition begins in Auckland, New Zealand. Selwyn is the first New Zealander in over 80 years to be charged with sedition. --Midnighttonight 03:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- On his television show Bill O'Reilly caused a controversy by twice falsely claiming that American troops had killed surrendering Germans at Malmedy - first in October 2005, and again in May 2006. O'Reilly had been making the reference this time around in comparison with the actions of Marines in the Haditha Massacre. The Fox News network later altered transcripts of the episode, to falsely indicate that O'Reilly had said Normandy instead of Malmedy. MSNBC host Keith Olbermann pointed out that, even though American troops had committed war crimes in World War II, O'Reilly's error was disrespectful to the Americans who were killed in the Malmedy massacre and O'Reilly has yet to apologize or take responsibility of his mistake.
- I'm hunting, but I don't see a bolded article or international relevance here. --Golbez 01:11, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- The testbed 6bone for the next Internet Protocol, IPv6 goes out of service today (6/6/06) as the 128-bit IPv6 goes into production mode, side-by-side the 32-bit IPv4.
- I might post this, but then I'd be accused of pandering to our tech bias. --Golbez 01:11, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- The Freedom of the Seas (ship)--the world's largest liner set off on its maiden voyage [10]
- Except the article says that happened last month. --Golbez 22:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- The Yorkshire Regiment is formed through the amalgamation of the Prince of Wales's Own Regiment of Yorkshire, Green Howards and Duke of Wellington's Regiment Hammersfan 04/06/06, 22.55 BST
- I didn't post the last time one of these regiment changes was mentioned here, and I ain't doing it now. I just don't see any relevance beyond the UK, and even then. --Golbez 22:00, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- The Netherlands win the UEFA Under-21 Championship 2006 over Ukraine 3-0.
- This happened yesterday, but it's still relevant. It's also big enough to be in this section, I believe. —Michiel Sikma, 19:33, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- The Wilkes Land crater is discoved in Antarctica, scientists propose that the meteor impact may have been associated with the P-T extinction event.--Peta 01:46, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Posted, albeit a bit rejigged. The Tom 03:37, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Alan García Pérez is elected in the second round of 2006 Presidential Election.
- Counting is still underway (this is in Peru, BTW), and we're still in Gore-has-Florida territory, per media coverage. I'd prefer to wait until a final result and until the Czech story has slid a bit, as two elections at once is a bit dicey and it'd be better to see the overlap time minimized. The Tom 04:14, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Electoral authorities estimated the final results to take a week or so, probably for resolving disputed ballots and getting votes from isolated rural areas. The official count is 91% complete and the difference has been reduced slightly, but García's opponent, Ollanta Humala, already conceded defeat, so maybe the headline should just say that if we don't want to wait for final results. I personally think that a presidential election is always more important than a legislative one, if we have to include just one. --Gabbec 14:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Counting is still underway (this is in Peru, BTW), and we're still in Gore-has-Florida territory, per media coverage. I'd prefer to wait until a final result and until the Czech story has slid a bit, as two elections at once is a bit dicey and it'd be better to see the overlap time minimized. The Tom 04:14, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Humala has already conceded the election and congratulated Garcia on his victory. [11]--Jersey Devil 20:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Got it up now. Sorry about the delay. The Tom 00:40, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- The Royal Canadian Mounted Police have announced the arrest of 17 suspected Islamic terrorists in connection to a planned terrorist attack around Toronto. The RCMP said that three tons of ammonium nitrate was seized. By comparison, the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing used one ton. Rizla 19:53, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- And do we have an updated article? --Golbez 20:39, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, we do: 2006 Toronto terrorism arrests. -- 199.71.174.100 10:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- Can we post this? FellowWikipedian 16:37, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- The Indian Army has been called out to deal with a plague of rats in northeastern India after a flowering of the bamboo forests that takes place every fifty years, known locally as Mautam. --Hornplease 19:18, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- That's the kind of news I like to see on here. Posting. --Golbez 19:27, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- In a special session of parliament, Montenegro will declare its independence from Serbia.
- Will declare ? Please wait till it's done, then update the relevant pages, then come back here. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. -- 64.229.7.166 15:46, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
It's done, updated. --Tone 18:44, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- I reverted until some major websites have the news. It's going to need some time to update all the templates... --Tone 18:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Russel Norman is elected as the new male co-leader of the New Zealand Green Party. (this is 3 June in New Zealand time BTW)--Midnighttonight 04:20, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- The leadership of a non-major party (not quite minor either) does not really seem to work for me. --Golbez 07:37, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Katharine Close correctly spells Ursprache to win the 2006 Scripps National Spelling Bee, which was broadcast on both ESPN and ABC. — † Webdinger BLAH | SZ 12:39, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- Female Genital Mutilation has been found to pose an increased risk of complications during childbirth, leading to the deaths of an additional 10 to 20 per thousand African babies during delivery according to a recent WHO study reported in the Lancet yesterday. See the WHO article here: http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2006/pr30/en/index.html
I'm sorry if I haven't formatted this suggestion very well. I'm still finding my feet here. Procrastinator supreme 11:02, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- If you're still finding your feet, well, scroll up and read the guidelines. -- 64.229.204.28 13:22, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- OK, is the above better? Procrastinator supreme 13:47, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you. I like this suggestion (will like it more if it's shorter and wikified), but it's up to the admins. Some admins won't post anything to the ITN unless it's earth-shattering news. Good luck. -- 64.229.207.249 15:50, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- I've added this to Current events (see guideline #1) as Female circumcision is found to increase infant mortality and childbirth complications. . I'd embolden the first link for ITN. -- 64.229.207.249 16:01, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- OK, is the above better? Procrastinator supreme 13:47, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- The 2006 North Atlantic and Central Pacific hurricane seasons begin. —CuiviénenT|C|@ on Thursday, 1 June 2006 at 00:56 UTC
- I had some difficulty coming up with good formatting for this news item. If someone else could better format it, please do so. —CuiviénenT|C|@ on Thursday, 1 June 2006 at 00:56 UTC
- IMO a non-event; seasons begin and end all the time. --0Golbez 05:17, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- Let's wait till there actually is a hurricane threatening some coastal town.... --64.229.7.166 16:43, 3 June 2006 (UTC)